Stuttgart: FAI please take note [Archive] - Page 2

Stuttgart88

07/09/2006, 7:54 AM

I will say this, it was nice to see a lot more Irish jerseys and very few Celtic jerseys at the match. Not to cause a sh*tstorm but Celtic jerseys do not belong at an Ireland match.

I agree totally, but just to stir things up, what about the all green Celtic away shirt? I bought a Panathanaikos shirt before the game in Amsterdam. My local shop was out of Ireland shirts & the choice was that or Nigeria!

Desyf

07/09/2006, 8:10 AM

Personally I never wear football shirts of any kind as I'm far too old and fat for that sort of thing.

It's a green Fred Perry for me.:)

Stuttgart88

07/09/2006, 8:25 AM

Hey mr stuttgart 88 any chance of loaning the match recording ?

By the way i was in Dortmund during the WC for the Swiss v Togo match.
It is an excellent football stadium.

I was also there for Liverpool 78 v Alaves 77 or whatever the final score was. The atmosphere was great.Sure - it's in the post to me so I'll send it to you in a week or so. PM me your address, but don't expect a response as I'm away on biz until Monday.

Junior

07/09/2006, 9:23 AM

Celtic shirts worn at Ireland games long before the new age Ireland Supporter starting trying to dictate what was acceptable attire. If your not trying to stir it up, why mention it?

Desyf

07/09/2006, 10:08 AM

Sure - it's in the post to me so I'll send it to you in a week or so. PM me your address, but don't expect a response as I'm away on biz until Monday.

Stuttgart88, don't worry 'cos that nice foot.ie member is making me a copy too.

GK for the Town

07/09/2006, 9:18 PM

Agreed about the atmosphere being the brilliant. The Anthem was fantastic with so many singing loudly. Even the people who didnt know the words hummed really loud. It was mentioned in a post before we went that we should try get everyone to bounce up and down for the game while singing.. That, to me would be Savage !! If it does happen in one of the next few games then i think that there would be very very few on here moaning about it because we'd be saying that it was one of the best atmospheres. (It'd be worth to keep on the toes as well if its a freezing cold night)

highlight100

07/09/2006, 9:57 PM

Lucky for you that you weren't in Block 53A. Same story, guys wearing WHITE Irish shirts at a German home game, abusing a few of us for trying to stand & contribute to the atmosphere. Then they had the cheek to post on another thread that we were the ones being abusive .... Too many people going to games now who want to sit & be entertained for 90 minutes instead of giving everything they have to help support the team & create an atmosphere

Just to clarify the shirt thing from my original post,in this instance these fans were the type of person you would expect to see at a social function in the Burlington hotel,button shirts and slacks n slip on shoes,ladies with long flowing dresses.Seamed more like a government junket to Germany.

Junior

07/09/2006, 10:23 PM

Imagine that, wearing a WHITE Irish shirt. They should banned from every football ground in the world, if not shot.

Fergie's Son

08/09/2006, 2:46 AM

Celtic shirts worn at Ireland games long before the new age Ireland Supporter starting trying to dictate what was acceptable attire. If your not trying to stir it up, why mention it?

Perhaps because it is a legitimate issue? You rarely see Man. United or Liverpool shirts at England matches.

The Irish team is seperate from Celtic and the shirts should reflect that. Show some pride in the Irish national team. You can do that withou denigrating Celtic or diluting your support for Ireland.

Fergie's Son

08/09/2006, 2:47 AM

Imagine that, wearing a WHITE Irish shirt. They should banned from every football ground in the world, if not shot.

What are you talking about? Nice use of a strawman there. Home or away Irish shirts are fine and you know it. Celtic is a professional company, not the Irish national team. I don't think it is unreasonable to hope that Irish fans wear Irish shirts to matches.

OwlsFan

08/09/2006, 6:47 AM

Personally I never wear football shirts of any kind as I'm far too old and fat for that sort of thing.

It's a green Fred Perry for me.:)

So you rely on everyone else to provide the colour then ? I hate seeing supporters at game not wearing the colours - it's as if they think they're beyond that sort of thing. You're never too old to wear the colours - it's a sacred duty.

Whatever about wearing Celtic jerseys, which are at least green and white, what gets me are the people who wear blue Dublin GAA jerseys or other county jerseys. I certainly, along with Fred Perry tops, think they have no place in the stadium at an away soccer international.

Desyf

08/09/2006, 7:26 AM

This is a great debate, what colour shirts to wear at the match.:)

When are we going to discuss shoes ?

Junior

08/09/2006, 8:57 AM

What are you talking about? Nice use of a strawman there. Home or away Irish shirts are fine and you know it. Celtic is a professional company, not the Irish national team. I don't think it is unreasonable to hope that Irish fans wear Irish shirts to matches.

It was in response to the Chippy post - read back.

This thread is a fcuking joke, Im pleased to say that never once in my time following Ireland with some of the most dedicated fans you could meet has any of them had the inclination to comment on what I was wearing to the game.

I've worn Ireland shirts, GAA shirts, Celtic shirts, civvies all to Ireland matches, Im always the same type of fan? This thread has turned in to a playground like conversation and whats worse I can't believe Im fcuking contributing to it!!!!!!

geysir

08/09/2006, 9:32 AM

This is a great debate, what colour shirts to wear at the match.:)

When are we going to discuss shoes ?
Well seeing as you mention it, I was wearing white canvas shoes with 3 nice green stripes down the side. Yer not a real fan until you get that part of the dress code sorted :)

shakermaker1982

08/09/2006, 9:46 AM

Wear what you like before the game IMO. It would be nice if everyone could wear the jersey to the game just for the added colour but if not I'm not too bothered.

Desyf

08/09/2006, 10:26 AM

Wear what you like before the game IMO. It would be nice if everyone could wear the jersey to the game just for the added colour but if not I'm not too bothered.

Bugger.
I was wearing brown shoes :o

I admit it, when it comes to being a real fan I'm a f#cking amateur :rolleyes:

p_o_r

08/09/2006, 11:10 AM

In my opinion, the great atmospheres of the past will be difficult to rediscover because it is now affected by such a varying demographic of fan.

IMO too many fans nowadays are complaining (albeit mainly on forums such as this) about other fans, not wearing the right colour, the right sporting top, the right football league top, for not standing up, for not sitting down, for not singing, for singing the wrong type of songs, for not knowing the words, for being too drunk, for not being drunk enough, because KO times are too early, because they are too late, because the stadium is too old or because its too new and soulless.

Very true, read any copy of YBIG and you are sure to find a rant against ‘suits’ and how ‘real’ fans get the s**tty end of the stick. Every fans seems to think that what they do is right and they are the ‘real’ fans and others are wrong.
It’s like to shirt debate on this thread. If you do not have an Ireland shirt (green or white) some sort of other green shirt will do, be it Fred Perry polo shirt, a Celtic shirt or a Phanathinokas shirt (but remember that Celtic are a British club and Panathinakos have nothing to do with Ireland).

On the atmosphere generation topic, Fran Rooney tried this in Lansdowne for a few games in 2003 or 2004.
Handed out green cards, but only to those visible to the TV cameras, with ‘chants’ on the back (‘Ireland ‘tll I die’ being one of them) and brought a PA announcer from Celtic over to rev us all up in a Scots accent.
Also tried to get a singing section in the terraces made up of LOI fans with huge big LOI club flags.
It did not really work and only lasted a few games, probably cos there were too many ‘suites’ there, opps there I go again.

I thought the atmosphere is the ground at Stuttgart was good, even though it was choreographed. Thought the flags were a good touch.

Billsthoughts

08/09/2006, 11:38 AM

I think the fact that games are generally played on a freezing nite in sept/oct/nov kinda puts me off wearing a t shirt with "eircom" plastered accross the front. as well as that the jersey changes so often and the designs are always awful. I always thought the korean " be the reds" t shirts were a great idea. altho we are too obsessed with labels in this country to ever do that. or them orange jump suits the dutch wear would be cool as well. cept maybe in green....anyways the atmos in lansdowne is always brutal.nuthin to do with suits. more to do with the fare on offer.

endabob1

08/09/2006, 11:51 AM

The quality of the shirts are so bad that I have given up buying them, I normally wear my James Joyce T-Shirt or a Rugby Shirt if it's a bit nippy.

geysir

08/09/2006, 11:59 AM

I have a genuine green wool bobble hat (green and white bob on top), my dear sainted mother knitted for me. Would that be passable these days as a retro fashion statement or is it strictly logoed polyester?

Bugger.
I was wearing brown shoes
'Brown shoes don't make it'

Desyf

08/09/2006, 12:13 PM

This is getting ridiculous.
I'm not allowed to wear anything.

Where does it state on the ticket about dress code ?

I'll turn up naked to the next game and it'll serve you all right.

Newryrep

08/09/2006, 12:55 PM

Shirts - bottom line

Wear whatever colour the team are playing in at the game be it green or white.

We were playing in green so it would have been more appropriate to have worn a green top/shirt/t shirt/vest/bra etc so we could stand out from the german support as unless the players have superpowers thay would have great difficulty picking out a white irish shirt from the white German one.

If we were playing in white then white would have been more appropriate.

End of discussion.

Desyf

08/09/2006, 1:07 PM

:eek:

pineapple stu

08/09/2006, 1:20 PM

How do you know in advance which colour we're going to be wearing?

Mayo_Bhoy

08/09/2006, 2:04 PM

No wonder the atmosphere in landsdowne is **** e these days with idiots on this site arguing incessantly about what to wear to matches and what songs etc are acceptable. If these muppets were around in the 80's early 90's they wouls soon have been told where to go. Stick to the rugby ye morons.

Desyf

08/09/2006, 2:16 PM

Mayo_Bhoy

08/09/2006, 2:41 PM

I'm wearing a blue suit by the way.

Excellent choice. May i ask what shade/hue and will Sir be wearing a traditional tie or a cravat?? These little things could make all the difference against the Czech Rep.:rolleyes:

Mayo_Bhoy

08/09/2006, 2:43 PM

How do you know in advance which colour we're going to be wearing?

Well the Germans wear white so let me see??? Emmmm it's a toughie

Junior

08/09/2006, 2:59 PM

Desyf

08/09/2006, 3:29 PM

Excellent choice. May i ask what shade/hue and will Sir be wearing a traditional tie or a cravat?? These little things could make all the difference against the Czech Rep.:rolleyes:

It's actually dark blue, but it's a little shiny 'cos it's old and has been worn a lot. I wear it when I'm on my tractor spreading muck.

Anyway, I thought this was a football forum.
I didn't really join to read about people's match day fashion tastes.

It's been quite revealing though.

Thanks everyone.

geysir

08/09/2006, 3:29 PM

. If these muppets were around in the 80's early 90's they wouls soon have been told where to go. s.
Probably burnt along with Maggie's effigy on the south tce.
You'd be lucky if someone didn't p�ss in your pocket then.

Packie88

08/09/2006, 3:34 PM

This is a great debate, what colour shirts to wear at the match.:)

When are we going to discuss shoes ?

Speakin' of shoes, I seen a chap wearing those Adidas Boston Celtics shoes with the shamrocks on them in Stuttgart. They looked deadly so they did.

Desyf

08/09/2006, 3:47 PM

So you rely on everyone else to provide the colour then ? I hate seeing supporters at game not wearing the colours - it's as if they think they're beyond that sort of thing. You're never too old to wear the colours - it's a sacred duty.

Whatever about wearing Celtic jerseys, which are at least green and white, what gets me are the people who wear blue Dublin GAA jerseys or other county jerseys. I certainly, along with Fred Perry tops, think they have no place in the stadium at an away soccer international.

I've just noticed this post by yourself Owlsfan.
What do you mean by stating that I "rely on everyone else to provide the colour". My top was GREEN that is a f#cking colour isn't it. In fact it's more green than a Celtic shirt.

I'm hoping though, that all of the above post was typed with your tongue firmly in your cheek.
If not, you have serious problems.

Fergie's Son

08/09/2006, 3:48 PM

Desyf

08/09/2006, 3:56 PM

It is a football forum which is why wearing a shirt of a British team to games played by the Irish national team makes no sense.

It's the opposite of wearing the same band names t-shirt to the band you are going to see. Don't be "that guy".

In fairness Fergies son, the debate has gone well beyond wearing shirts of a British team when following Ireland.
Someone has just been stating that you can't wear a Dubs shirt, or even a Fred Perry top, when watching Ireland :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'm embarrassed for him.

Fergie's Son

08/09/2006, 4:46 PM

I guess you can wear whatever you want. I didn't see many Bundesliga jerseys at the Germany match or jerseys from former German areas. I just think it would be nice to have some uniformity when supporting the Irish team. A green jersey or an Irish jersey I think makes the most sense. A Celtic jersey just confuses the issue imho.

SUB of the day

08/09/2006, 4:48 PM

In fairness Fergies son, the debate has gone well beyond wearing shirts of a British team when following Ireland.
Someone has just been stating that you can't wear a Dubs shirt, or even a Fred Perry top, when watching Ireland :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'm embarrassed for him.

I'm embarrassed for the Dub shirt guy.....oh the shame

Billsthoughts

08/09/2006, 8:06 PM

I guess you can wear whatever you want. I didn't see many Bundesliga jerseys at the Germany match or jerseys from former German areas.

HA HA :D
UNINTENTIONAL POST OF THE MONTH!!!!
If the Ukrainians and the french can refrain from wearing their jerseys when the they go to german matches I dont see why we cant refrain from wearing celtic jerseys at our games!!! :D

oconghc2

08/09/2006, 8:15 PM

im starting to think that a lot of people on here soend a bit too much time thinking about these things!!

wear green - doesnt have to be a jersey - if no green wear a scarf or a hat - just bring some colour!

but all this sh1te of fan etiquette and what songs to sing or not to sing yada yada - wheres the spontaneity gone!! After being at the game last weekend I hope we dont have to resort to the german style of supporting the team!

p.s i saw loads of stuttgart jerseys at the game

Closed Account 2

09/09/2006, 12:07 AM

I just want to run something by the fashion police, if we were to play in white, would this be ok as an outfit ??

outfit one (http://www.tuxgear.com/images/tuxedos/whitetailcoat.jpg)

I want to be a true fan but think it's vital to check that this outfit would be ok.

oconghc2

09/09/2006, 12:10 AM

that should be fine edmundo - although maybe you should post the type of shoe you were thinking of? maybe a nice green loafer? :)

pineapple stu

09/09/2006, 1:01 AM

Well the Germans wear white so let me see??? Emmmm it's a toughie
Yes, thank you. Will we be wearing white or green in the Czech Republic, who wear red? Or in San Marino, who wear blue? Or in Wales, who wear red? Etc, etc...

dcfcsteve

09/09/2006, 1:53 AM

I was there on saturday and I have to say that apart of not having flags (and loosing the game), support for the Irish team was great and as OwlsFan said one could wonder at some point who played at home.
The whole athmosphere before, during and after the game was really positive.
Everything was superbly organized.

You must have been sitting in the Irish section, as every single person I spoke to after the game - including loads of randoms I was squashed next to on the metro - thought the Irish fans overall were very disappointing. Think I heard one chant all game from the Irish section - even in the quieter bits.

Big/easy away games like this get the holiday-loving fans who are out as much for the craic and the beer as the football. Most of them probably have limited experience of live football, and don't seem to know how to create an atmosphere.

I get increasingly disappointed/disenchanted over time with the support for Ireland.

Mayo_Bhoy

09/09/2006, 4:18 PM

Will we be wearing white or green in the Czech Republic, who wear red? Or in San Marino, who wear blue? Or in Wales, who wear red? Etc, etc...

Are you serious??
Czechs red - Ireland in white
San Marino Blue - Ireland White

Jesus i can't believe im respondint to this nonsense and does it matter a damn.

Mayo_Bhoy

09/09/2006, 4:22 PM

Probably burnt along with Maggie's effigy on the south tce.
You'd be lucky if someone didn't p�ss in your pocket then.

Yea quite probably would have. At least there was a genuine atmosphere in those days and Landsdowne really was an intimidating place to come to. Oh and i seem to recall lots of Celtic jerseys as well.:)

Fergie's Son

09/09/2006, 5:45 PM

pineapple stu

09/09/2006, 6:28 PM

Are you serious??
Czechs red - Ireland in white
San Marino Blue - Ireland White

Why not green? That post makes no sense.

Don't really care what people wear to games. Though I saw one of the German papers commenting on the wall of green at the ground - likened it to the Dutch fans and their usual wall of orange. Think a wall of green is better than a wall of white.

You must have been sitting in the Irish section, as every single person I spoke to after the game - including loads of randoms I was squashed next to on the metro - thought the Irish fans overall were very disappointing. Think I heard one chant all game from the Irish section - even in the quieter bits.
Don't know where you're getting that from!! Nobody I've heard has echoed that, either who was there, who was in Ireland watching on telly or who reporting in the papers.

Beavis

10/09/2006, 1:50 AM

You must have been sitting in the Irish section, as every single person I spoke to after the game - including loads of randoms I was squashed next to on the metro - thought the Irish fans overall were very disappointing. Think I heard one chant all game from the Irish section - even in the quieter bits.

Ive been home and far away with the team, but for once at least, last week the fans were a credit to the country and youve obviously got some agenda if you say otherwise.

SUB of the day

10/09/2006, 9:45 AM

Ive been home and far away with the team, but for once at least, last week the fans were a credit to the country and youve obviously got some agenda if you say otherwise.

Being mentioned by the German media in this context, with reference by comparison with the Dutch WALL OF ORANGE, surely vindicates earlier posts, that on match day green is the only colour.