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larrywhite
16/08/2006, 12:05 PM
Just talking to a mate and me said to me Herbertstown have been promoted to Premier because Corbally have withdrawn.

Anyone else hear this? I presume if its true it came up at last nights LDMC meeting. Old Keeper?

Roadend
16/08/2006, 12:23 PM
Load of rubbish

W.R.F.C
16/08/2006, 12:25 PM
Just talking to a mate and me said to me Herbertstown have been promoted to Premier because Corbally have withdrawn.

Anyone else hear this? I presume if its true it came up at last nights LDMC meeting. Old Keeper?

IT WASNT CORBALLY WHO WITH DREW IT WAS PARK, THEY ARE PLAYING IN 1A CAUSE THEY WOULD ONLY B USING TERE C TEAM IN PREMIER. A PARK MAN TOLD ME THIS TODAY. HEARD CORBALLY ARE IN BIG TROUBLE ALRITE, LOST A GOOD FEW, MAYBE THATS WHY U HEARD THAT

thomas72
16/08/2006, 12:38 PM
IT WASNT CORBALLY WHO WITH DREW IT WAS PARK, THEY ARE PLAYING IN 1A CAUSE THEY WOULD ONLY B USING TERE C TEAM IN PREMIER. A PARK MAN TOLD ME THIS TODAY. HEARD CORBALLY ARE IN BIG TROUBLE ALRITE, LOST A GOOD FEW, MAYBE THATS WHY U HEARD THAT



herbertstown are brutal handy six points for the rest of the league

without doubt corbally and herbertstown for the drop

leather
16/08/2006, 12:54 PM
has anybody any word on hebertstowns facilities... pitch etc....

larrywhite
16/08/2006, 1:40 PM
Pitch is pretty good and they have decent dressing rooms and showers. Only about 2 years old.

scoobysham
16/08/2006, 2:33 PM
has anybody any word on hebertstowns facilities... pitch etc....

pitch is very good in fairness and the dressing rooms top class very good set up out there

W.R.F.C
16/08/2006, 2:37 PM
pitch is very good in fairness and the dressing rooms top class very good set up out there

also heard that park cant get promoted this year, i think they have to play a season in 1a before they try to go up, which will b good for us since herbertstown in my view would b in top 3 in 1a if they stayed

Nemesis
16/08/2006, 2:45 PM
Lots of changes this season.

Pike look to have a really strong squad for this season.
Carew Park look like they are respondiong to O'Connor
Park despite having very good facilities cannot field a team
Corbally get promoted and loose players? Why
Another exadous of players from the Boro,
Balla training hard, should be in with a good shout

Should be an interesting season.

Goals4fun
16/08/2006, 3:04 PM
also heard that park cant get promoted this year, i think they have to play a season in 1a before they try to go up, which will b good for us since herbertstown in my view would b in top 3 in 1a if they stayed


judging from what i have heard they might be moving the other way and not have promotion on their mind ! alot more worrying things !!!!:eek:

Edgey
16/08/2006, 3:09 PM
Given that their b team finished bottom of 1b last year it's hard to see how their c team could survive in 1a.

Wilf Rostron
16/08/2006, 3:30 PM
judging from what i have heard they might be moving the other way and not have promotion on their mind ! alot more worrying things !!!!:eek:

Its sad to se a club fall apart so fast, especially with all the effort they put into their facilities.

abbeyvale
16/08/2006, 3:33 PM
Old Keeper
I presume it will now mean that Herbetstwon will fullfill the fixtures originally set for Park and if so will their game v Regional go ahead this Sunday? considering they taught they would be playing Div 1A footy this season???

Wilf Rostron
16/08/2006, 3:35 PM
I think finishing places for next season could look something like this,

Pike
Balla
Regional
Carew
Aisling
View
Boro
Star
Herbertstown
Charleville
Corbally
Granville

It's football so anything is possible

Wilf Rostron
16/08/2006, 3:37 PM
Lots of changes this season.

Pike look to have a really strong squad for this season.
Carew Park look like they are respondiong to O'Connor
Park despite having very good facilities cannot field a team
Corbally get promoted and loose players? Why
Another exadous of players from the Boro,
Balla training hard, should be in with a good shout

Should be an interesting season.

Why did the Corbally players leave after getting promoted?
Balla don't need to train, nobody can play football in bateman anyway.

booster 03
16/08/2006, 5:20 PM
i dont think its fair to ask herbertstown to go premier in short notice like this, i mean it may sound great and all but in hindsight down the line it may prove detremental, i mean being premier at close season means a club have a pulling power to attract decent players, just my opinion, im not knocking anyone, its just a strange thing to happen, best of luck anyaway hebertstown, yer there a year earlier anyway!!wat about this weeks fixtures we were due to play them sat nite.. are we playin park now??

allab
16/08/2006, 5:21 PM
Why did the Corbally players leave after getting promoted?
Balla don't need to train, nobody can play football in bateman anyway.

wats not been able to play football in bateman got to do wit training??

abbeyvale
16/08/2006, 10:23 PM
i dont think its fair to ask herbertstown to go premier in short notice like this, i mean it may sound great and all but in hindsight down the line it may prove detremental, i mean being premier at close season means a club have a pulling power to attract decent players, just my opinion, im not knocking anyone, its just a strange thing to happen, best of luck anyaway hebertstown, yer there a year earlier anyway!!wat about this weeks fixtures we were due to play them sat nite.. are we playin park now??

I think the most sensible thing to do would be to postpone Herbertstown's first fixture this Sunday v Regional and give them at least until next Thursday night's fixtures to get their head round the fact that they are playing Prem footy instead of Div 1A.

Anyone agree

Old keeper
16/08/2006, 10:26 PM
Old Keeper
I presume it will now mean that Herbetstwon will fullfill the fixtures originally set for Park and if so will their game v Regional go ahead this Sunday? considering they taught they would be playing Div 1A footy this season???

Hi Guys
ParK Informed the league last night that they would most likely be unable to fulfill their premier fixtures for a number of reasons. in the interest of the league the committee decided that based on this information we would relagate park and promote the third placed team from 1a (herbertstown) while the situation is far from perfect this action was taken in order to prevent the very likely possibility of walkovers in the premier From the very start of the season. park currently have a b team in 2a and this team is still down to fulfill fixtures until the league is informed otherwise. as regards fixtures the park ones will be taken by herbertstown and vice versa.

leather
17/08/2006, 6:21 AM
Nemisis, no mention of fairview,regional,Ashling... How does 4 players, P.o'donell,J.Lyne,Farmer & B.Conway equate to exodus from boro. M.Houlihan has been transferred to dublin with his job...The Biggest disappointment was B.Conway leaving, has played all his football with club(class player) Barry has other things on his mind at present...Boro have signed five new players.A.Fitzsimmons,D.Hanley,B.riordan,J.rooney & T.Clarke with possibly 2 more to come. I know that they are young but they have fantastic attitude..Unlike some of the aforementioned.

Goals4fun
17/08/2006, 7:26 AM
I think the most sensible thing to do would be to postpone Herbertstown's first fixture this Sunday v Regional and give them at least until next Thursday night's fixtures to get their head round the fact that they are playing Prem footy instead of Div 1A.

Anyone agree

i think that would be fair.
at the end of the day herbertstown came close to promotion so that should do ok in the premier. i doubt if anybody has left them to join another premier team.
It is a pity for park, where have all their team gone ? 2 years ago reaching the 1/4 finals of the fai........ tis a strange one !

Mercurial Vapor
17/08/2006, 7:51 AM
Did anyone hear that Herbertstown lost about half their side to their B team. I heard it was some dispute about a new manager being appointed to their A team and seemingly the players were not happy about it. If this is the case surely they are not equipped to deal with the demands of the Premier League.

larrywhite
17/08/2006, 8:57 AM
If thats true Im sure those players will be tempted to back to the A team.

Nemesis
17/08/2006, 8:58 AM
Nemisis, no mention of fairview,regional,Ashling... How does 4 players, P.o'donell,J.Lyne,Farmer & B.Conway equate to exodus from boro. M.Houlihan has been transferred to dublin with his job...The Biggest disappointment was B.Conway leaving, has played all his football with club(class player) Barry has other things on his mind at present...Boro have signed five new players.A.Fitzsimmons,D.Hanley,B.riordan,J.rooney & T.Clarke with possibly 2 more to come. I know that they are young but they have fantastic attitude..Unlike some of the aforementioned.

well the view don't seem to be making any great splash so far, Regional have made a few very good signings and should be stronger this season, Aisling have a good under 21 side and will be stronger their second season in the premier.

dont think there is any point blackening these players because they have signed for different clubs, why not have a look at why they signed after a successful league campaign. conway might have medals on his mind?

Mercurial Vapor
17/08/2006, 9:08 AM
Hi Guys
ParK Informed the league last night that they would most likely be unable to fulfill their premier fixtures for a number of reasons. in the interest of the league the committee decided that based on this information we would relagate park and promote the third placed team from 1a (herbertstown) while the situation is far from perfect this action was taken in order to prevent the very likely possibility of walkovers in the premier From the very start of the season. park currently have a b team in 2a and this team is still down to fulfill fixtures until the league is informed otherwise. as regards fixtures the park ones will be taken by herbertstown and vice versa.

Old Keeper, I'm not picking a fight or anything but going by LDMC rules that 2 teams are promoted to premier and 2 teams are relegated I believe that Hill Celtic should have been re-instated to the premier league. Was there a vote taken by the commitee or how was the decision reached?
After all weren't Park almost relegated in second last place anyway instead of Hill Celtic. By the way I have no affiliation to Hill Celtic whatsoever I'm just stating my own unbiased opinion.

Old keeper
17/08/2006, 9:28 AM
Old Keeper, I'm not picking a fight or anything but going by LDMC rules that 2 teams are promoted to premier and 2 teams are relegated I believe that Hill Celtic should have been re-instated to the premier league. Was there a vote taken by the commitee or how was the decision reached?
After all weren't Park almost relegated in second last place anyway instead of Hill Celtic. By the way I have no affiliation to Hill Celtic whatsoever I'm just stating my own unbiased opinion.

H Merc

Im small so I dont get into fights! Your opinion is as valued as anyones. The precedent set for a number of years was that teams who were relagated were not returned to the same division in the following season. As Herbertstown finished Joint second and lost a playoff they were 3rd and were promoted. In 1B charlville pulled their B team and St Patricks were promoted after finishing 3rd the relagated team from 1B stayed in 2A. I know it seems harsh on some teams but the decisions are made in the best interest of all clubs. In relation to the rules you are correct in the normal course of events 2 teams are relagated and 2 promoted but there are also cases where a vacency can arise in a division when a team pulls out and this is the case here. The points made regarding the postponment of fixtures is understandable but if a team has been preparing to start a season in 1A the preperations would be the same and there should not be a need to postpone the fixture.

manalishi
17/08/2006, 9:39 AM
Lots of changes this season.

Pike look to have a really strong squad for this season.
Carew Park look like they are respondiong to O'Connor
Park despite having very good facilities cannot field a team
Corbally get promoted and loose players? Why
Another exadous of players from the Boro,
Balla training hard, should be in with a good shout

Should be an interesting season.

No mention of Fairview??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goals4fun
"judging from what i have heard they might be moving the other way and not have promotion on their mind ! alot more worrying things !!!!


Its sad to se a club fall apart so fast, especially with all the effort they put into their facilities"

It is ironic that the clubs in Shannon,Park,Shannon Town and Newtown, spent the whole year,2 years ago, trying to avoid this sort of thing by almagating.First Shannon Town pulled out,without even trying,then Park's C team members,most of whom are now not with the club,demanded that Newtown agree all first team games be played at Park's pitch,because "they were better".(have you seen Newtowns dressing rooms,state of the art).Newtown refused this on the basis that they wanted an independent accessment of both grounds and that would decide which ground would be premier and the other ,either sold or developed as a schoolboy academy.

Now look at the sad state of a once great club.

leather
17/08/2006, 10:08 AM
well the view don't seem to be making any great splash so far, Regional have made a few very good signings and should be stronger this season, Aisling have a good under 21 side and will be stronger their second season in the premier.

dont think there is any point blackening these players because they have signed for different clubs, why not have a look at why they signed after a successful league campaign. conway might have medals on his mind?

Not Blackening any players who have left or stayed.. some of the mentioned players are highly talented but if they were true to themselves and other people i think that they might well admit that application of that talent was not what it might of been.. B.Conway has a premier league and a couple of lawsons to his name already... other things are of a personal nature(according to himself) and as i said Barry would have the best wishes from all in the boro in whatever he does...Ashling will miss B.Spicer a lot.....why the break from U/L

Goals4fun
17/08/2006, 10:18 AM
No mention of Fairview??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goals4fun
"judging from what i have heard they might be moving the other way and not have promotion on their mind ! alot more worrying things !!!!


Its sad to se a club fall apart so fast, especially with all the effort they put into their facilities"

It is ironic that the clubs in Shannon,Park,Shannon Town and Newtown, spent the whole year,2 years ago, trying to avoid this sort of thing by almagating.First Shannon Town pulled out,without even trying,then Park's C team members,most of whom are now not with the club,demanded that Newtown agree all first team games be played at Park's pitch,because "they were better".(have you seen Newtowns dressing rooms,state of the art).Newtown refused this on the basis that they wanted an independent accessment of both grounds and that would decide which ground would be premier and the other ,either sold or developed as a schoolboy academy.

Now look at the sad state of a once great club.

are newtown not selling/swapping their ground to a builder ? Peope involved in these amalgamations did not have an interest of shannon fooball at heart. They all wanted to join ,but stay in there their own name and colours ..........

Nemesis
17/08/2006, 11:16 AM
Not Blackening any players who have left or stayed.. some of the mentioned players are highly talented but if they were true to themselves and other people i think that they might well admit that application of that talent was not what it might of been.. B.Conway has a premier league and a couple of lawsons to his name already... other things are of a personal nature(according to himself) and as i said Barry would have the best wishes from all in the boro in whatever he does...Ashling will miss B.Spicer a lot.....why the break from U/L

blackening could be a little harsh, how about having a go! don't think any of the players you mentioned would be pleased with your comments if they were "true to themselves" what has UL got to do with this?

leather
17/08/2006, 12:12 PM
not having a go at anybody in particular, i am just giving my opinion about some players attitude to training and self regulation...there were a good few ocassions in the past few seasons when players either did not turn up or turned up "tired" for matches...i only know of a couple of players, fair play, who told the manager that they would socializing and asked could they be excused(the players in question know who they are). the question about u/l is exactly that... i thought that there was a tie-in between u/l and ashling, just wandering what happened. no malice just a simple question

Happy Zapper
17/08/2006, 3:22 PM
Any truth in the rumour that Alan barry walked off the pitch in a recent friendly and threw his jersey at the manager?

Nemesis
17/08/2006, 3:23 PM
He was "tired"

BallBreaker
17/08/2006, 9:56 PM
are newtown not selling/swapping their ground to a builder ? Peope involved in these amalgamations did not have an interest of shannon fooball at heart. They all wanted to join ,but stay in there their own name and colours ..........

This is on the wrong thread, Goals for fun you are so wrong,the main stay of the Amalgamation thought of nothing else but Shannon Football, it had been stated it was not for the excisting junior players but for the schoolboys and build them up to the Juniors,we would have had a lot more trainers within the pool,i hate to say this but this is what some of us were afraid of,there are 4 clubs in shannon,9 within a 6 mile radius,we are all pulling against one another and more clubs will also go to the wall.Times are changing so are people,lads can no longer give the commitment that lads of 10-15 years ago gave.Sorry for park but believe me they have noone else to blame only themselves.2 people who i do feel sorry for are Peter Webb and Anto Nolan the rest are just dreaming.:ball:

leather
18/08/2006, 7:17 AM
Happy zapper & Nemesis.. get your facts correct.seen all the pre-season friendlies what you said above is pure ****e. the two of you and your constant dissing of anything or any rumour from the boro make me think that you are disgruntled ex-players...have a nice season both of you

Happy Zapper
18/08/2006, 8:34 AM
I was told this by an x-boro player, in fact he played with you last season, so I wanted to run it by you to see if it was true. No need to be so defensive, you got something to hide? well have ya?

Wilf Rostron
18/08/2006, 8:55 AM
Happy zapper & Nemesis.. get your facts correct.seen all the pre-season friendlies what you said above is pure ****e. the two of you and your constant dissing of anything or any rumour from the boro make me think that you are disgruntled ex-players...have a nice season both of you

you could make a team of disgruntled x boro players!

Elton John
18/08/2006, 8:58 AM
managed by dave weldrick?

sorrry leather, jumping on the band wagon, pike get enough of a hiding on this site - your turn now.

Nemesis
18/08/2006, 9:08 AM
Happy zapper & Nemesis.. get your facts correct.seen all the pre-season friendlies what you said above is pure ****e. the two of you and your constant dissing of anything or any rumour from the boro make me think that you are disgruntled ex-players...have a nice season both of you

Its only a bit of fun leather, your wound up tighter than a drum. who would win do you reckon, a team of disgruntled ex-players or the current squad.

Gentle Ben
18/08/2006, 9:16 AM
Just wanted to say best of luck to all teams this season, including the team of disgruntled ex-players.

leather
18/08/2006, 9:46 AM
I was told this by an x-boro player, in fact he played with you last season, so I wanted to run it by you to see if it was true. No need to be so defensive, you got something to hide? well have ya?

why is this player x-boro, Badly treated i suppose.....like so many of the ex boro boys...
Of course being defensive, getting sick of so many untruths
nothing to hide on my part. if you are correct on any point i would be the first to agree with you

leather
18/08/2006, 9:47 AM
managed by dave weldrick?

sorrry leather, jumping on the band wagon, pike get enough of a hiding on this site - your turn now.


excellent reposte!!! Mr weldrick also played for pike...

leather
18/08/2006, 9:51 AM
Its only a bit of fun leather, your wound up tighter than a drum. who would win do you reckon, a team of disgruntled ex-players or the current squad.

not one bit wound up, very chilled actually....

what decade of disgruntled players will we play againist the present team...

as i have stated before there are very club sides presently that would beat previous teams from their clubs.. even though fitness and preperations have improved the quality of the actual football has decreased...(imo)

leather
18/08/2006, 9:54 AM
you could make a team of disgruntled x boro players!
Most clubs could make a team of disgruntled players
Boro Could probably make a league of teams....

Happy Zapper
18/08/2006, 11:44 AM
why is this player x-boro, Badly treated i suppose.....like so many of the ex boro boys...
Of course being defensive, getting sick of so many untruths
nothing to hide on my part. if you are correct on any point i would be the first to agree with you

He had a falling out with the current manager!

leather
18/08/2006, 11:52 AM
how many times have we heard that one...........spare me
said Player wouldn't have had a "falling out" with the managers of previous clubs that he had played for ???

Old keeper
18/08/2006, 1:35 PM
Hi
Due to one club lodging an objection the following games are off this weekend

Premier Division Regional United V Herbertstown
Division 1A Park FC V Summerville Rovers and Bruff V Hill Celtic


See the website for updates

Happy Zapper
18/08/2006, 1:36 PM
You sarcastically asked was he badly treated, He said he had a falling out with the manager, thats it. If he is making up stories that Alan Barry left the field of play in protest well thats another matter you can take up with him. It must have ended badly if a player decides to spread rumours like that!

Happy Zapper
18/08/2006, 1:38 PM
Hi
Due to one club lodging an objection the following games are off this weekend

Premier Division Regional United V Herbertstown
Division 1A Park FC V Summerville Rovers

Your right, let the circus begin.

Pallas_United
22/08/2006, 9:22 AM
Any word on the Hill Celtic appeal ?


Is Fairview v Herbertstown going ahead on Thursday night ?


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