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Qwerty
09/08/2006, 11:55 PM
Has Niall Quinn set a new record? He played 6 Irish internationals against Birmingham - Cunningham, Clarke, Delap, Lawrence, Elliott & Murphy. I can't remember more than 4 in any previous English team sheet.

Clarke conceded a penalty on his debut, nice one son. :eek:

Murphy again looked decent enough and Elliott will score if he gets a decent supply.
Dodge
10/08/2006, 12:08 AM
Murphy and Lawrence aren't Irish internationals
Colbert Report
10/08/2006, 1:54 AM
Back in the day Villa had McGrath, Houghton, Townsend, Staunton - all four who were in our first choice squad. Of the six you listed none of them are in our first team and only Elliott would be in an Ireland 23 man squad, and even then only marginally.
Metrostars
10/08/2006, 3:11 AM
Also Leeds played Kelly, Harte, McPhail and Keane.
beautifulrock
10/08/2006, 8:43 AM
if he is not careful he will set the record for the most losses as a manger cum chairman.
monutdfc
10/08/2006, 9:13 AM
Arsenal's FA Cup winning side in 1979 had Jennings, Brady, Rice, Nelson, Stapleton and O'Leary - 3 full ROI and 3 full NI internationals.
Donal81
10/08/2006, 9:35 AM
Murphy and Lawrence aren't Irish internationals

Liam Lawrence was in the squad for the Sweden game, wasn't he? What does that make him?
drinkfeckarse
10/08/2006, 9:48 AM
A one time squad member...same as Joe Gamble.
Donal81
10/08/2006, 10:52 AM
A one time squad member...same as Joe Gamble.

That's a bit hasty, isn't it?
Jerry The Saint
10/08/2006, 10:58 AM
Ronnie Whelan, Ray Houghton, Steve 'Gaffer' Staunton, and John 'Sinatra' Aldridge were first choice with Liverpool in the late 80s.

Now our squad is built around a combination of the Newcastle and Tottenham first team and reserves. :(
CraftyToePoke
10/08/2006, 11:00 AM
Ronnie Whelan, Ray Houghton, Steve 'Gaffer' Staunton, and John 'Sinatra' Aldridge were first choice with Liverpool in the late 80s

could Lawrenson be added to that? or had he already retired?
FootballsKing
10/08/2006, 11:56 AM
Back in the day Villa had McGrath, Houghton, Townsend, Staunton - all four who were in our first choice squad. Of the six you listed none of them are in our first team and only Elliott would be in an Ireland 23 man squad, and even then only marginally.

Dont be silly, Elliot walks into the 23 and should be walking into the team soon enough when Kevin Doyle is found out
Dodge
10/08/2006, 12:29 PM
Dont be silly, Elliot walks into the 23 and should be walking into the team soon enough when Kevin Doyle is found out
:rolleyes: Any basis for this? he's already got more goals in England than Elliot
hoops1
10/08/2006, 12:32 PM
FootballsKing,Your theory intrigues me:rolleyes:
eirebhoy
10/08/2006, 12:53 PM
I don't think anyone can say whether Doyle is better than Elliott or vice versa. Elliott has scored 18 goals in 44 starts in England. Doyle has scored 19 goals in 43 starts in England. Pretty similar stats at U-21 level too. We'll just have to see who keeps progressing.
Closed Account
10/08/2006, 1:39 PM
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=69013&postcount=14
McCarthy might, stress might of set the record with some combination of these
NeilMcD
10/08/2006, 2:02 PM
Great post Eirebhoy I think you hit th nail on the head.
Qwerty
10/08/2006, 2:07 PM
Murphy and Lawrence aren't Irish internationals

Murphy has been capped at youth and U21 level, I didn't use the word senior in my posting. I had thought Lawrence was capped but as he is on the FAI site he is as good as.

If I was a Sunderland fan I'd wonder about Quinn priorities, here are his remarks on Lawrence after playing a pre-season friendly:

"I want Liam to be doing it on the wing for Ireland as well as Sunderland and I really feel that he can kick on and do things for both. He showed signs at Carlisle of what he is capable of and I know all about the ability he has got."

Nice that he remembered Sunderland, btw if Quinn calls Stan, Lawrence will play :rolleyes:
geysir
10/08/2006, 2:11 PM
As regards the record, not all those players already mentioned played in the team at the same time. The record I always thought was in West Brom's glory days, we had 4 of them playing at the same time against France 1976.
Mulligan, Martin, Giles and Treacy
Noelys Guitar
10/08/2006, 2:17 PM
West Brom who had Giles (player Manager) Martin. Mulligan and Treacy. all 4 played against Man U when they beat them 4-0. and a large contigent of West brom fans turned up to support Ireland against England in the 1976 friendly at Wembley (1-1).
CraftyToePoke
10/08/2006, 2:21 PM
If I was a Sunderland fan I'd wonder about Quinn priorities, here are his remarks on Lawrence after playing a pre-season friendly:"I want Liam to be doing it on the wing for Ireland as well as Sunderland and I really feel that he can kick on and do things for both. He showed signs at Carlisle of what he is capable of and I know all about the ability he has got."Nice that he remembered Sunderland,

maybe he is just giving the lad a public boost, qwerty, maybe he is a confidence player. and any by-product of Lawrence playing for us will have been him standing out for Quinn at sunderland, which can only be good news for Quinn and his new club.

Quinn does view the world through green tinted shades alright but id be surprised if he was as naieve as to try to run sunderland from an Irish angle solely. and theres nothing wrong with having a club of that size that is Irish-friendly anyway, as long as its sucessfull.

on that very matter, leicester is today full of the rumour that Maybury may be bound for the stadium of light, but i stress, its just rumour at the mo, threre may well be nothing in it.

here

http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=889&p=16&style=2&forumId=3142&action=1&replytoid=531452768

http://www.clubcall.com/index.jsp?storyID=287408
geysir
10/08/2006, 2:25 PM
The Villa 4, Stan, McGrath, Townsend and Houghton all played together at the WC'94
tricky_colour
10/08/2006, 4:47 PM
Has Niall Quinn set a new record? He played 6 Irish internationals against Birmingham - Cunningham, Clarke, Delap, Lawrence, Elliott & Murphy. I can't remember more than 4 in any previous English team sheet.

Clarke conceded a penalty on his debut, nice one son. :eek:

Murphy again looked decent enough and Elliott will score if he gets a decent supply.


He has a long was to go before the threatens McCarthy's record with Sunderland.
OwlsFan
11/08/2006, 7:18 AM
Arsenal's FA Cup winning side in 1979 had Jennings, Brady, Rice, Nelson, Stapleton and O'Leary - 3 full ROI and 3 full NI internationals.

And Arsenal also had Devine playing for them around that era as well.

Recently Sheffield Wednesday had Partridge, Coughlan, Whelan, Corr and Murphy all on the same team. None is a full international though :o
shelbourne1904
11/08/2006, 11:57 AM
As regards the record, not all those players already mentioned played in the team at the same time. The record I always thought was in West Brom's glory days, we had 4 of them playing at the same time against France 1976.
Mulligan, Martin, Giles and Treacy

Was Grealish not there for a while also??
geysir
11/08/2006, 5:31 PM
Yeah, Grealish went to West Brom sometime in ´83 I think.
For record purposes it doesn't count as then he was the only West Brom player on the Irish team.
zinedineontour
11/08/2006, 6:16 PM
maybe he is just giving the lad a public boost, qwerty, maybe he is a confidence player. and any by-product of Lawrence playing for us will have been him standing out for Quinn at sunderland, which can only be good news for Quinn and his new club.

Quinn does view the world through green tinted shades alright but id be surprised if he was as naieve as to try to run sunderland from an Irish angle solely. and theres nothing wrong with having a club of that size that is Irish-friendly anyway, as long as its sucessfull.

on that very matter, leicester is today full of the rumour that Maybury may be bound for the stadium of light, but i stress, its just rumour at the mo, threre may well be nothing in it.

here

http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=889&p=16&style=2&forumId=3142&action=1&replytoid=531452768

http://www.clubcall.com/index.jsp?storyID=287408

Hopefully Maybury wont be moving really dont rate him at all .. I think all quinny was doing was giving Lawrence a boost saying he is good enough to be able to make it internationally if we he gets more consistent. Looks like Spurs have rebuffed our bids for andy reid today . Pity would have been a great signing .
Paddy Garcia
11/08/2006, 11:30 PM
5 in the top division with Middlesborough.

Morris, Kavanagh, Slaven, Kernaghan, Moore,

..& I think I am forgetting another!
p_o_r
11/08/2006, 11:32 PM
Was that most Irish on a team record not set by Boro back in the early 1990's.
6 I think it was and the only one I recall was Alan Kernighan(SP)
p_o_r
11/08/2006, 11:35 PM
5 in the top division with Middlesborough.

Morris, Kavanagh, Slaven, Kernaghan, Moore,

..& I think I am forgetting another!

Beat me too it by 2 mins Paddy,
Was Fleming possibly involved ?

/awaits barrage of abuse for such a stupid suggestion/
tetsujin1979
12/08/2006, 12:57 AM
Sundeland had Kilbane, Thornton, Reddy and Babb at the same time, although they might not have played together
Billsthoughts
14/08/2006, 3:56 PM
did the brighton and hove albion team have a few in 83 cup final??????
any old farts remember this?? Owlsfan?? Stuttgart?? ........NeilMcd???:D
monutdfc
14/08/2006, 4:05 PM
Defo Gary Howeltt (1 cap v China) and I think Tony Grealish captained the side in place of the suspended Steve Foster for the drawn game
Billsthoughts
14/08/2006, 4:09 PM
Michael "fav band = the wolfe tones" Robinson as well no?
deffo some other lad in there as well....
Metrostars
14/08/2006, 4:19 PM
1983 FA Cup Final lineup:

MANCHESTER UNITED: Bailey, Albiston, McQueen, Moran, Duxbury, Wilkins, Murhen, Davies, Robson, Whiteside, Stapleton
BRIGHTON: Mossley, Ramsey, Pearce, Grealish, Foster, Gatting, Stevens, Howlett, Robinson, Smith, Smillie

Plus I think Ashley Grimes was United's sub.
OwlsFan
14/08/2006, 4:30 PM
Since you refer to me in such a favourable tone I shall respond.That Brighton cup final is a sore point with me because they beat Wednesday in the semi-final.

I can't really remember which Irish played for them other than Robinson and Tony Grealish.
hoops1
15/08/2006, 11:51 AM
According to reports in the paper Quinn has signed Alan Maybury
All i can say is lucky hes the chairman in a normal situation
signings like that can get you the sack.