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Anyone see it on BBC earlier? It showed that despite the fact over 3,000 hardcore holligans were prevented from travelling, there was still plenty of trouble caused by louts gettting ****ed out of their heads and absusing other nationalitys untill they get a fight. Absolute scum.
strangeirish
02/08/2006, 9:44 PM
What's a holligan?
Conor H
02/08/2006, 9:51 PM
What's a holligan?
:rolleyes: You know well what he meant!
lopez
02/08/2006, 10:04 PM
...Absolute scum.Surely the greatest supporters the World has ever seen (Copyright The Sun)?
strangeirish
02/08/2006, 10:34 PM
:rolleyes: You know well what he meant!
Ah get over yerself,ya holligan ya!:D
Sorry Neish:p
sylvo
02/08/2006, 10:41 PM
And there was everyone telling us how great they were and how well behaved they had been in this world cup.:rolleyes:
Gareth
02/08/2006, 11:08 PM
I watched most of it. I was torn between it and CSI Miami ,cos Heracio's shade removing over acting is a must see at every possible opportunity, but back to the Craziies.
I was interested to hear the Police say that these guys were not the organised hooligan Firms, but more like your typical night out in an English City. One lad after spoiling a few Brazilian fans fun proceeded to try and attack one of the "braver" (or stupid) brazilians who was standing in front of a pack of english lads , proceeded to lose teh focus on his hatred, and aim it at the camera creww, who he spat at , gestured and threw stuff at, before walking up and calling the reporter a total scumbag cos he was filming his own!!! That is a perfect example of one total and utter waste of biological material. HE should be donated to science so that some good could come of his existance.
paul_oshea
03/08/2006, 8:18 AM
when is this on BBc LONDON?
CAN someone give me more info on it?
Raheny Red
03/08/2006, 8:38 AM
There was nothing serious I thought and it could have been alot worse had the proper hoolies not been banned from travelling! It was nothing more than bottle throwing and abusive songs. However, that is still not acceptable, but it could have been many times worse!
Ah get over yerself,ya holligan ya!:D
Sorry Neish:p
You wanna watch yourself or I'll be down your manor to sort ya out;)
Seen the 2nd half. Can be summed by the last 2 words of the documentary... "Englands Shame"
NY Hoop
03/08/2006, 10:32 AM
That is a perfect example of one total and utter waste of biological material. HE should be donated to science so that some good could come of his existance.
Quality:D :D
Dolly the sheep is what came to mind. They all follow each other and look like they are all cloned. Burberry wearing vermin.
One degenerate said that most of the hoolies come from small towns with small clubs that will never be in Europe so this was their chance:rolleyes:
Met a lot of decent ingerland fans during World Cups but these lot are filth.
No brained no lifer non entities who think they are the hard men by throwing chairs, bottles and drink over anyone who's not english.
Using the beautiful game to wreak havoc.
KOH
Dodge
03/08/2006, 10:50 AM
Not hooligans, just beered up English louts. Just went to Germany on holiday this year instead of Malia
Raheny Red
03/08/2006, 11:03 AM
Not hooligans, just beered up English louts. Just went to Germany on holiday this year instead of Malia
Exactly.
carricksmasher
03/08/2006, 12:11 PM
at one point when there was no opposition fans around a lincoln city fan went up and glassed a leeds utd fan to try and get things started...says it all really
beautifulrock
03/08/2006, 12:42 PM
at one point when there was no opposition fans around a lincoln city fan went up and glassed a leeds utd fan to try and get things started...says it all really
nice chaps, glad i missed them when i was in Germany. Would have liked to seen the programme though. Must be repeated on BBc3 soon will keep an eye out for it
beautifulrock
03/08/2006, 12:46 PM
fir those who missed it. the Panorama website says this "If you cannot watch Hooligans on Wednesday 2 August at 2100 BST on BBC One you can watch it on demand on this site or it will be repeated on Thursday 17 August on BBC One at 0125. Unfortunately we cannot offer this film live on the site due to rights issues with some World Cup footage"
anto1208
03/08/2006, 1:04 PM
i also cant belive a shamrock rovers fan is having ago about sheep like burburry hat wearing hooligans !!!:rolleyes: the only thing worse than a english hooligan is a wanna be english hooligan like the shams "ultras"
Reality Bites
03/08/2006, 1:22 PM
Just a quick reminder to all here, that on recent away trips I have seen a number of Irish fans behaving similar to these english scum, albeit small numbers, but an element has crept in recently that is not welcome and should be shudded by all self-respecting Irish Fans, Paris 2004 springs to mind when a number of morons got involved in bottle throwing with parisien afro/algerian youngsters.
Yeah they were more drunken louts than known hooligans on the tv programme last night but still England seems to produce more of these idiots that other other country.I was in Munich for the World Cup and there was a friendly,party atmosphere there and no trouble because there were very few English there.Anyone non English who wandered near these louts was a target of abuse,assault and had their flags taken off them and had beer thrown over them.When they get together and get drunk the mob mentality takes over and any 'foreigners' seem to be fair game.Then we have Sky telling us how well the English fans behaved because there was only a few hundred arrests:rolleyes: .Its a pity for the decent England fans that these clowns drag their reputation through the gutter.
Watched the 2nd half of the programme in the Bohs members bar in Dalymount last night. No casuals in sight to be influenced. :D
NY Hoop
03/08/2006, 2:52 PM
i also cant belive a shamrock rovers fan is having ago about sheep like burburry hat wearing hooligans !!!:rolleyes: the only thing worse than a english hooligan is a wanna be english hooligan like the shams "ultras"
This from an everton "fan":rolleyes:
No idea what the "shams ultras" is.
But thank you for taking this off topic. What an intelligent presence you bring.
KOH
nshoop
03/08/2006, 3:10 PM
i also cant belive a shamrock rovers fan is having ago about sheep like burburry hat wearing hooligans !!!:rolleyes: the only thing worse than a english hooligan is a wanna be english hooligan like the shams "ultras"
I wish illeducated people like yourself would get your facts right,the ultras wear the rovers jersey and bring colour to our games like the giant flags and flares,etc.They have nothing to do with the small number of troublemakers who don't wear the shirt.
Dublin12
03/08/2006, 3:15 PM
England seems to produce more of these idiots that other other country.
The Germans and the Poles had far more arrested than the English,maybe the programme makers should've had a word with Gunter the Hooile fixer or whatever his name was , instead of following some 18 year old chav scum and his mates. The Germans should'ved rounded them all up in one big field let them all kill each other and let everybody else get on and enjoy the tournament.
But the programme was produced by the BBC, it wasn't an exposé of hooliganism at the World Cup, it was a story on English people causing trouble during the World Cup. of course they concentrated on their own.
NeilMcD
03/08/2006, 4:35 PM
I wish illeducated people like yourself would get your facts right,the ultras wear the rovers jersey and bring colour to our games like the giant flags and flares,etc.They have nothing to do with the small number of troublemakers who don't wear the shirt.
Is there a need to attack the poster again. If you believe his post to be ignorant or illeducated that is fair enough but I dont think it does yourself of the forum any justice to resort to namecalling. I believe your post to be the more accurate and true of whats happening on the ground at Rovers games.
Is there a need to attack the poster again. If you believe his post to be ignorant or illeducated that is fair enough but I dont think it does yourself of the forum any justice to resort to namecalling. I believe your post to be the more accurate and true of whats happening on the ground at Rovers games.
how many rovers games have you been to , out of interest?
NeilMcD
03/08/2006, 4:51 PM
how many rovers games have you been to , out of interest?
what has that got to do with anything. My point is that people should attack the post not the poster. Simple as that from speaking to Rovers fans who regularly go it is in align with what the previous rovers poster said. I really dont know what my attendance at Rovers games has got to do with it. I never stated what the facts were in relation to this.
nshoop
03/08/2006, 4:57 PM
Is there a need to attack the poster again. If you believe his post to be ignorant or illeducated that is fair enough but I dont think it does yourself of the forum any justice to resort to namecalling. I believe your post to be the more accurate and true of whats happening on the ground at Rovers games.
A rediculous and insulting statement such as his deserves such a reply.With no info or reason he comes out with a 100% untrue statement,so he is either illeducated or winding people up,probably both to be fair.
"I believe your post to be the more accurate and true of whats happening on the ground at Rovers games."
Well your the big Facts man. Thought you'd rely on actual evidence more than hearsay when it comes to the rigourous screening procedure you apply to your msg board postings!
NeilMcD
03/08/2006, 4:58 PM
That may or not be the case but I think you do yourself more credit if you slag the post rather than the poster.
NeilMcD
03/08/2006, 5:00 PM
"I believe your post to be the more accurate and true of whats happening on the ground at Rovers games."
Well your the big Facts man. Thought you'd rely on actual evidence more than hearsay when it comes to the rigourous screening procedure you apply to your msg board postings!
Hence the reason I said I believe that to be the case. I did not state it as fact. I said I believe it to be the case which means that I have heard from people that I trust that this is the case. Also you do not know how many Rovers games I have gone to. Not sure why you are querying that as I could go to them all or I could go to none.
NeilMcD
03/08/2006, 5:03 PM
Where is your evidence for this and I dont like the way you are trying to turn these threads into a personal thing. I would rather talk about the topics and the subjects of the threads rather than the people posting. I would prefer if you did likewise.
nshoop
03/08/2006, 5:04 PM
That may or not be the case but I think you do yourself more credit if you slag the post rather than the poster.
I'm not looking for credit,anyway this thread is veering off course,I've made my point so yous can go back to talking about the programme or hooliganism
NeilMcD
03/08/2006, 5:05 PM
I'm not looking for credit,anyway this thread is veering off course,I've made my point so yous can go back to talking about the programme or hooliganism
Fair enough, I thought it was an interesting show and id certainly did show that the trouble is now caused by guys that are more louts than organised firms like they were during the 70s and 80s.
The Germans and the Poles had far more arrested than the English...Very observant of you. And if you watch this programme you'll know why. With the exception of the Stuttgart Polizei, the Germans were taking a touchy-feely approach to the scum, while certainly not to their own. They may have good reasons (like the Germans (hooligans and Hells Angells in particular) were 'professionals' and would probably kill a few tans if allowed the same freedom (which wouldn't be a bad idea on last night's evidence)), but they were certainly much more tougher on the locals.
Yeah we know that every country, even our own, has a 'lunatic fringe', but the border between those on the margins that go into a Motorway laybys and perform a perverted form of WWF's Rumble Royale, and those who actually couldn't care less for the aggro, is very thin. As thin for the Poles and the Germans (which we will see in September) as it is for us, IMO. With the tans this border - a so called middle ground where 'decent' fans through drink indulge in anti-social behaviour normally resulting in arrest (racist singing, minor assault, theft (of other fans flags))- is far greater a percentage. While the hard core, as the evidence of Huddersfield Town supplying three tw*ts whose b*llocks just dropped last week explains, is dwindling, it takes little direction to get these w*nkers going. It makes me laugh to see the BBC interviewing so called 'decent' fans pictured with blow up spitfires - the equivalent of us wearing balaclavas - and singing songs about the war. Meester English po-leeeece-man got it right by claiming the 'moral direction of certain parents' disturbs him. Sad, sad muppets.
NY Hoop
04/08/2006, 10:51 AM
what has that got to do with anything. My point is that people should attack the post not the poster. Simple as that from speaking to Rovers fans who regularly go it is in align with what the previous rovers poster said. I really dont know what my attendance at Rovers games has got to do with it. I never stated what the facts were in relation to this.
Are you posting from Dail Eireann?
KOH
NeilMcD
04/08/2006, 10:56 AM
What bearing has your question on the nature of this thread.
NY Hoop
04/08/2006, 10:58 AM
Didnt your mammy ever tell you not to answer a question with a question?!!
KOH
NeilMcD
04/08/2006, 11:10 AM
To answer your question, I am not posting from Dail Eireann but I dont know what bearing that has on the thread in anyway. The thread is about the BBC show the other night. I thought it was an informative and entertaining show in many ways but not shocking or revolutionary. I
I liked the uniform for the bavarian riot police - looked like RoboCops.
:cool:
Raheny Red
04/08/2006, 1:39 PM
Well not going to start a new thread for THIS (http://www.shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=435) so may as well throw it in here!
NY Hoop
04/08/2006, 1:44 PM
Well not going to start a new thread for THIS (http://www.shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=435) so may as well throw it in here!
Pot. Kettle. Black
KOH
hoops1
04/08/2006, 1:45 PM
Whats that all about?
nshoop
04/08/2006, 2:21 PM
Well not going to start a new thread for THIS (http://www.shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=435) so may as well throw it in here!
About time oily cracked down on the hooligans at shels who are giving the league a bad name:D
Raheny Red
05/08/2006, 4:08 PM
Pot. Kettle. Black
KOH
DITTO
ONE (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k230/finglas_/rovers_director_hooligan.jpg)
TWO (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k230/finglas_/Limerickleaderarticle.jpg)
Jerry The Saint
05/08/2006, 7:06 PM
Well not going to start a new thread for THIS (http://www.shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=435) so may as well throw it in here!
"Supporters warned not to get involved in any trouble..."
1st article in the News section - "Fenlon ready for a scrap" :rolleyes:
The court case for the assault on Roddy Collins must be up soon - the Rod doesn't seem to be the type to back down (unless he's been paid off...)
Gareth
05/08/2006, 7:24 PM
"Supporters warned not to get involved in any trouble..."
1st article in the News section - "Fenlon ready for a scrap" :rolleyes:
The court case for the assault on Roddy Collins must be up soon - the Rod doesn't seem to be the type to back down (unless he's been paid off...)
Actually the Latest Articles are a bit embarrassing to have on the site. They are dated back to 2004/2005. I am removing them this weekend, but that article has been their for over a year :)
nshoop
05/08/2006, 8:12 PM
DITTO
ONE (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k230/finglas_/rovers_director_hooligan.jpg)
TWO (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k230/finglas_/Limerickleaderarticle.jpg)
Don't bring that sh*te up again
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