Roddy Collins : Clown of the highest order

[manic da hoop]

will ya stop using the population of 1.5 milion as if they are potential football supporters. soccer is not our nartional sport and will always be a poor second to ga and all the restructering marketing and tinkering may improve things but not to the level of having 6 well supported in the city

Most provincial clubs in this league are located in towns with absolutely minute populations - Longford, Ballybofey, Monaghan, Cobh etc. - all tiny, all have an el club. Even if you took the specific districts that the Dublin clubs would be associated with in terms of a catchment area for support, your still talking about population figures way in excess of the maximum that most other clubs could state. Tallaght alone is bigger (population wise) than Limerick, the third largest city in the state. Even the student population of UCD is bigger than Kilkenny city FFS!

[BohDiddley]

I want to knock this GAA/Government conspiracy thing on the head. The GAA get their grant money through exactly the same system as the EL clubs. So why do they get money and we don’t?

1. Grant money is given out as a percentage of how much money the organization puts in itself. EL clubs invest NOTHING in their infrastructure and therefore cannot top this up with grant money. GAA clubs fund-raise within their membership so they can legitimately get money off the government grant schemes. This is true even of mega-projects such as Croke Park where the GAA put up massive amounts of its own money.

2. A condition of allocating grant money is that the sporting body has a valid tax clearance cert. I would guess that virtually all of the ELs 22 clubs have lapsed in their TCC over the last 5 years. I know for a fact that Bohs have lost their TCC several times over that period and restructured their payments. The winding up orders against Shels, and Cork plus Rovers in examinership confirm as a FACT that those clubs have too. Not to mention the difficulties that Derry, Drogheda, Dublin City, Waterford have got into. Now you could argue that the GAA don’t pay their sportsmen and they have a lower cost base so it is easier for them to stay tax compliant, and this would be true, but when I challenged the Bohs board as to why they signed a player we obviously couldn’t pay wages too the response was… “we took a flyer at it, we had a gamble, you never know what might of happened if we won the league.” This attitude is rampant in the EL and all the clubs are rotten with boom/bust economics. When clubs withhold the PAYE and PRSI that the players pay they are stealing from the government – and now you want the government to top up the theft with more money?

3. Pats are also a great club to bring up with regard to grant money. The whole EL is regarded with suspicion when it comes to grant because Pats and some other spent grant money on players wages.


The GAA don’t get favourable treatment. They are just better organized at using the system and fighting their corner. The EL clubs would rather f*ck it up, whinge about it, and try to blame somebody else.

All very convincing on the surface. Maybe the system suits the GAA better...
What matters is not the process, but the outcome of the process.
Every time the disparity in funding between the codes is raised, some Reagonomics nut comes out with this nonsense about 'whinging'.

[Roverstillidie]

VM. the GAA approach this as an homogeneous entity and get the funding no matter what.

the FAI wont even make a public utterance of support for Rovers re the GAA taking the government to court to block public funds being used for other sports.

they are organised, efficient and get the job done. we have the FAI. thats the difference.

[passerrby]

tell you what ny hoop we have more potential of having somewhere to play every week
Potential your al mad i tel ya mad ha ha ha ha ha ha ah ha ha ha

[MariborKev]

Roddy was at the Carlisle grounds with the Gretna scouts tonight, taking his 30 pieces of silver to sell out the secrets of Derry City to the Scottish side.

Then he will moan about Irish sides................

[Vitruvian Man]

For the first time ever | am going to agree with a Rovers fan over a Bohs fan.

RTID you are right - Boh Diddley you are wrong.









EDIT
I'll just repeat a little tittle-tattle I heard recently.
It is alleged that Olliver Bourne, the chairman of a foreign football club from another country called Estonania or Russioa (but definately not Ireland) was in with the tax officials of that country recently demanding that they sign a letter that they will not pursue his club Hell-born for the recovery of grant moneys paid for the development of Perestroika Park for 30 days after they leave their home ground - having sold it to a developer called Ossie Donegal.

When the Revenue Commisars declared that they didn't see why they shouldn't get their cash up front as per the law of the Motherland - Mr Bourne broke off the meeting.

Speculation is rampant in Pravda and other state news agencies that the chairman of Hell-born was investigating whether he could fold the club (and it's debts) and re-set-up... minus the large sum of roubles owed to all and sundy by Hell-born around the town of St Dublinsburg.


FACT




Or is it ????

[Clones Road Cas]

Where did I say they were potential support?

I was just outlining that there are 5 (not 6) clubs in a capital city of 1.2 million. In London out of a population of 7.5 million there are 13 clubs.

One point is the 5 clubs here have potential something that monaghan doesnt have.


KOH

I may be delusional but i have no delusions that Monaghan will be anywhere next or near the top table if the league is resturctured.

Londonn with 5 times the population has only twice as many clubs. Thats what you posted and you still cant see a problem. Add in the fact that the market for el football in Ireland is always going to smaller than the total population and smaller than the market for english football.

Someone else says the five dublin clubs are sustainable. Sustainable means being up to date with tax, having a secure home and making a bit of progress. If the FAI were serious about enforcing licensing, how many of the 5 would get one, without all the loopholes and undertakings being given.

Sure 5 dublin teams can survive, but they cant progress. Your fighting over a small pool of fans and a small pool of sponsorship.

[garyderry]

Roddy was at the Carlisle grounds with the Gretna scouts tonight, taking his 30 pieces of silver to sell out the secrets of Derry City to the Scottish side.

Then he will moan about Irish sides................

if he helps Gretna knock us out, he gets his point proven, and gets paid for it in the process. Complete hypocit :mad:

[Poor Student]

Sustainable means being up to date with tax, having a secure home and making a bit of progress.

Sure UCD are the smallest club in Dublin and they've been the most tax compliant and are secure in their stadium. The amount of clubs in Dublin have nothing to do with it, it's how they're run.

[depor]

Roddy was at the Carlisle grounds with the Gretna scouts tonight, taking his 30 pieces of silver to sell out the secrets of Derry City to the Scottish side.

Then he will moan about Irish sides................



unlucky for gretna if they take advice off him, it will probably work out better for derry.;)

[BohDiddley]

Roddy's in the Sunday Tribune today reheating the same stuff.

[Martinho II]

roddys at the same aw **** in todays star about the derry drogheda europena game today-reckons that they wont go through!

wot r u like roddy?!!:confused:

[nshoop]

I wouldn't give him the pleasure of talking about him,w*nker end of story

[Jerry The Saint]

Roddy's in the Sunday Tribune today reheating the same stuff.

He goes off on his usual rant about how clubs need to spend money recklessly to stop themselves going bankrupt. :rolleyes:

It includes possibly the funniest couple of sentences I've ever read in a newspaper:

"This is why I got out of it. :D I love football and being involved in football but I just couldn't take the day to day of the eircom League wondering if you are going to be able to pay this guy and trying to explain to him there's no money this week. It's rubbish." :D

[Shelsman]

roddys at the same aw **** in todays star about the derry drogheda europena game today-reckons that they wont go through!

I think we should email their sports dept and get them to get Roddy to promise to do something like walk down O'Connell Street naked if either of them get through, or something equally emabarrasing ( and perhaps more realistic! ).

[Red4Eva]

"This is why I got out of it.

sh*t myself when i read that. what a f*ckin c*ck roddy is

[John83]

The Eircom League is really rubbish
by
Roddy Collins


THIS week was enough, it crossed the limit and it left me feeling so sorry for the people and players from Cork. They were way out of their league in Belgrade yet we have listened to their manager and other people in the league ramble on for months about how a team from here is getting closer to the Champions League, how it's only a matter of time, how it will happen in the short term. That is absolute crap and this league is still rubbish. Really rubbish.
Read the rest of Roddie's article (http://www.tribune.ie/printarticle.tvt?_ticket=9NTHLXD4YGSGX4VNHONDL1Q39 LLDPJSG0RZFRONDEP0DALOLYR4FURUSIOMAAP6EGKLAEUXRTRR HV3Q9ANVRDMKACJ5N1QRFLZHSNMTEDYNCGMRGUU295AMAAQ6DA LRGBHSNWQRFOTMAATXDALRDBHSM2QRFOPMAAUTDALSABHSN3QR FLZ4OXGASRFCV&id=48882&_scope=Tribune/Sport/Soccer) in the Sunday Tribune. Careful, that's a printer version, so you can see it without logging in, but it pops up a printer dialogue box. Just cancel that, and you can read away.

(Original (http://www.tribune.ie/article.tvt?_scope=Tribune/Sport/Soccer&id=48882&SUBCAT=Tribune/Sport&_ticket=9NTHLXD4YGSGX4VNHONDL1Q39LLDPJSG0RZFRONDEP 0DALOLYR4FURUSIOMAAP6EGKLAEUXRTRRHV3Q9ANVRDMKACJ5N 1QRFLZHSNMTEDYNCGMRGUU295AMAAQ6DALRGBHSNWQRFOTMAAT XDALRDBHSM2QRFOPMAAUTDALSABHSN3QRFLZ4OXGASRFCV), in case you've a tribune.ie log in)

[hoopy]

He goes off on his usual rant about how clubs need to spend money recklessly to stop themselves going bankrupt. :rolleyes:

It includes possibly the funniest couple of sentences I've ever read in a newspaper:

"This is why I got out of it. : :D

Memo to Roddy... YOU WERE SACKED BY ROVERS

[OneRedArmy]

Roddy Collins is an anagram of Bitter Deluded Fool.

FACT.

[John83]

Roddy Collins is an anagram of Bitter Deluded Fool.

FACT.
I'm starting to lose faith in this "FACT" business. I mean, what if Lucozade is just overpriced sugar water?

[monkey magic]

i really cant believe the ST published that, possible one of the worst, poorly written, blatantly self indulgent articles ive ever seen. seriously tho, no one with any kind of brain would see that piece as anything other than the rant of a bitter deluded, loser who didnt make the grade.

[gustavo]

Its because those that run the editoral in the Sports sections of these papers probably arent clued up enough to know that Roddy is a bitter fool who uses his rectum as his main channel of communication

[Seagull]

Memo to Roddy... YOU WERE SACKED BY ROVERS

SACKED by Bohs, SACKED by Carlisle, WALKED OUT on Dublin City, SACKED by Rovers. But that's not why he got out of it? Hahaha!

[Hitman]

SACKED by Bohs, SACKED by Carlisle, WALKED OUT on Dublin City, SACKED by Rovers. But that's not why he got out of it? Hahaha!

Just to point out that he got sacked by Carlisle, came back with his own chairman, and managed to get sacked again after a year.

[Dave77]

An empty vessel makes the most noise, nearly destroyed Carlisle, jumped ship at Dublin City, did nothing at Rovers!!! Useless!

[Jerry The Saint]

Heh-heh - I wonder does he still think that the League will always be rubbish until one of the clubs lets Brooks Mileson take over and spend lots of cash?:)

Silly question - of course he does! Roddy's faith in his deluded gibberish is unshakeable!:D

[Ronnie]

I think all Scottish clubs should now pull out of Europe, as well as the Swedes, Cypriots and Finns, because if they can't beat Irish clubs.....

[passerrby]

hes just another idiot looking for a village to employ him poor sod, but theres no vancancies as long as pat is in residence.

[Red&White]

Roddy Collins, **** off.

[Sinéad K]

Anyone think he should be made to eat his own words, literally, washed down with a nice pint of sour grapes :D

I think I still have last Sunday's Tribune about the house.

[Shelsman]

Did anyone see what he wrote last Sunday -can you post it here?

[stickyjoe]

This clown craves any kind of publicity.
Lock this thread and just ignore the bitter deluded individuals ramblings

[A face]

But what did he said .... how did he back track ... i mean he did back track, either that or look like a clueless idiot. He is like an empty barrell at this stage.

[pete]

Heard him on the Newstalk eircom league 5 minute slot last night. No post mortem on Gretna although Johnny McDonnell did have a nice dig thanking Roddy for helping Gretna. Roody had enough sense not to take the bait as couldn't win that debate.

:D :cool:

[lefty]

5 pages on Roddy Collins. Hes like Simon Cowell from the X Factor that is the Eircom League. You love to hate him but your glad hes still around. Well Rod if your reading this i think your a legend and i look forward to seeing you someday in the dole queue where you can share your wonderful anecdotes on irish football with me

[John83]

You're just afraid he'll beat you up lefty. ;)

[lefty]

Id kick roddys ass, too slow these days. His brothers now, theyre a different kettle of fish altogether

[John83]

Id kick roddys ass, too slow these days...
That's what Ollie thought. ;)

[A face]

5 pages on Roddy Collins. Hes like Simon Cowell from the X Factor that is the Eircom League. You love to hate him but your glad hes still around. Well Rod if your reading this i think your a legend and i look forward to seeing you someday in the dole queue where you can share your wonderful anecdotes on irish football with me

I know people who wish he was dead, i think that is over the top tbh but i'd still wish we saw the back of him.

[Shelsman]

I had a quick look at 'The Star on Sunday' there last Sunday to see if he would mention the Derry game but no. Instead he said that:

Staunton is out of his depth

A few pages previous to this, Cathal Dervan said that

Anyone looking for Staunton to go is talking out of his arse!

BRILLIANT!

:D :p