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London-Irish
27/07/2006, 10:46 AM
Here's a copy of an article that was published in the Non-League Paper in England on Sunday...

IT'S been three years since the Eircom League of Ireland launched summer football. Fixtures now run from March to November. The NLP sent our roving reporter Tony Incenzo to the Emerald Isle to find out if the switch has been a success...

The jury is out on summer soccer in Ireland. The standard of football and playing conditions have improved greatly, with Irish clubs now starting to make an impact in European competitions. But attendances in the Eircom League have been disappointing. I watched 10 games in 10 days at the end of June and spoke to a cross-section of the Irish soccer public in a bid to assess the impact of summer fixtures. My first port of call was Dundalk - a club who have won the title nine times in the past. Club general manager Peter Halpin is a former youth team player with Crewe Alexandra and Leicester City. He has firm views on the summer schedule.

" We are competing against the GAA ( Gaelic football and hurling) in the summer months," said Halpin. " At Dundalk, we have found that our attendances have decreased dramatically. We have also suffered from the televised World Cup matches this year." The Gaelic Games are tremendously supported in Ireland. The Dublin v Laois football game at Croke Park recently attracted 67,790 spectators whilst 53,286 witnessed Cork v Tipperary in the Munster hurling final at Thurles. In comparison, the biggest attendance I encountered in the Eircom League was 1,536 for Derry City v Dublin City. And the lowest was 79 for Kildare v Cobh.

Derry have traditionally been a well-supported club. And they certainly have the noisiest fans in Ireland with a barrage of drums and chanting throughout their 3-0 win. Derry assistant boss Paul Hegarty is a big fan of summer football and his views echoed most of the managers and coaches I spoke to. He said:" The standard of football has definitely improved because of the better pitches and training conditions in the summer. I played for Derry for 12 years and I can see a big improvement on the field of play since we switched to a summer schedule. " We have just been drawn against Gothenburg in the UEFA Cup. In the past, we would have thought ' F**K that!' But now we feel we have a chance of beating them.”

Over at Sligo Rovers, the viewpoint is that the summer schedule is not a success due to diminishing attendances. Commercial manager Richard Sutherland said:" In our part of Ireland, farmers and country people work the land more in the summer as it is bright up until 10 o'clock at night. In the winter, they were more prepared to come and watch Rovers play on a dark evening. So our crowds are well down." And I obtained a different angle on summer soccer when I went to see the Mayo League play an Eircom Under-21 fixture at Castlebar. League official Joe Butler said:" We actually launched summer fixtures for the Mayo League back in 1994. The main reason we made the switch was that we have particularly bad weather in the west of Ireland and too many games were being called off in the winter.

" We had to keep extending our season so the move to summer soccer made sense. Now the rest of the country has followed us!" Despite the mixed reaction, summer football is here to stay in Ireland. And the whole concept has been studied in detail by the League of Wales, who have been considering a similar switch. There are further developments in the pipeline across the Irish Sea which are also designed to boost the domestic game. The Eircom League will merge with the national FA of Ireland, who will run the league from the 2007 season onwards.

A four tier Eircom League structure will be launched in 2008 with a (newly named) Premiership, First Division, a new 'A' championship ( for reserve and Non-League teams) and an under-20 league. The Premiership will be reduced from 12 teams to 10 from 2009, with all top flight clubs encouraged to go full-time. There are currently only half a dozen outfits who are fully professional. And the total prize fund will increase from the existing level of E450,000 to E803,000 with the league champions receiving a handsome purse of E225,000. FAI chief executive John Delaney said:" Within three years we should have a fundamentally changed and improved senior league. There is a sense of something unique happening and we might just get one shot at this so we have to make it work." Eircom League chairman Paddy McCaul added:" Change is never easy but the new proposals have brought a feeling of confidence and optimism. The clubs want to aspire to greater success and they have a really good vision of where the game can go in Ireland."

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SLIGO ROVERS manager Sean Connor is adamant that summer soccer is a big success in Ireland. He feels that the product on offer has been greatly enhanced and the composition of teams has changed with dramatic effect. Connor said:” The standard of football has improved immensely. We have had what feels like a 10 year progression in the space of three years due to the introduction of a summer schedule.

“ We now have much better pitches and improved training facilities. That has led to a switch in emphasis, with technical skills coming to the fore in matches. “ In the past, Ireland used to have teams full of old cloggers just launching the ball from back to front on the muddy winter pitches. Now, we can use much younger players and work on their technical ability. “The average age of my side is only 22 and that bodes well for the future of Sligo Rovers.”

Connor also feels that the effects of the summer switch are far-reaching for Irish clubs when they are competing on the international stage. He said:” It is no surprise that the Eircom League teams are doing much better in Europe now. It won’t be long before an Irish club reaches the group stages of the Champions League. “Shelbourne almost did it a couple of years ago when they beat both Reykjavik and Hajduk Split before losing narrowly to La Coruna in the final qualifying round.”
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SHAMROCK ROVERS boss Pat Scully is well known to English fans after a playing career with Arsenal, Preston, Northampton, Southend United and Huddersfield. And Rovers are perhaps the most famous club in Ireland, having won the league title 15 times. So Scully’s views on the summer switch carry some weight. He said:” I’ve been all for summer football and I am glad it came in. The standard of play has definitely improved, as better pitches lead to more quality on display.

“ But the main advantage - and this is a huge benefit - is the training. We now bring the lads in on bright nights and in good weather, so you can put on a really good session.” The Irish teams are hoping to catch up with the progress of Scandinavian clubs, who have made huge steps forward in European competitions over the past 20 years. And Scully believes that the summer season will greatly assist that aim. “ Our sides have always struggled fitness-wise in Europe in the past,” he said.” Because they were playing the matches in our pre-season period in July. “ But now the likes of Shelbourne and Cork City have been getting good results in Europe over the past couple of years because they have been playing the games maybe 15 fixtures into our domestic season. So they have a much better chance of getting positive results as they are at the height of their fitness.”

bigmac
27/07/2006, 10:52 AM
Interesting. I'd really like to see attendance data for the last say 6 or 7 years to see what the trends are really like - It seems to me that there's a lot of anecdotal evidence floating around about smaller crowds but I haven't seen any evidence yet to come down on one side or other of the argument.

lofty9
27/07/2006, 10:58 AM
Derry assistant boss Paul Hegarty is a big fan of summer football and his views echoed most of the managers and coaches I spoke to.

He said:" The standard of football has definitely improved because of the better pitches and training conditions in the summer. I played for Derry for 12 years and I can see a big improvement on the field of play since we switched to a summer schedule.

" We have just been drawn against Gothenburg in the UEFA Cup. In the past, we would have thought ' F**K that!' But now we feel we have a chance of beating them.”

Good old Higgsy. Spot on.

Magicme
27/07/2006, 11:41 AM
See Sligo had their fields with the cows beside them like us the farmers would come in their droves coz they could keep an eye on their work while at the games.....

BohDiddley
27/07/2006, 12:23 PM
Farmers? Work?

TonyD
27/07/2006, 12:28 PM
I would say Pats crowds are definitely down since the introduction of Summer football, but it's hard to say if this is just a result of the season switch, since Pats have been pretty much muck since the changeover. Still, even this year, when there has been a marked improvement playing wise, crowds still aren't great.

The Stars
27/07/2006, 12:31 PM
Farmers? Work?
ya,its been discussed in the Sligo section and we all agree he is from cloud coo coo land....and he is meant to have Uefa qualifications

Duffman
27/07/2006, 12:33 PM
Farmers? Work?

Its hard work waiting for the cheque to come in from Brussels :)

Schumi
27/07/2006, 12:48 PM
Sure isn't Sligo's pitch a farmer's field anyway? The farmers could do their work there.

Ronnie
27/07/2006, 2:04 PM
Farmers? Work?

Less of your igorance.

NY Hoop
27/07/2006, 2:28 PM
Well the only thing i would say is that we draw a lot of our support from rural areas and i have to say that if you look at our attendances this year only for the country people the gates would be half of what they are at least.

:D :D

KOH

pete
27/07/2006, 2:30 PM
I am sure recent attendances must be down as farmers make hay while the sun shines. :eek:

manic da hoop
27/07/2006, 3:12 PM
Over at Sligo Rovers, the viewpoint is that the summer schedule is not a success due to diminishing attendances.

Commercial manager Richard Sutherland said:" In our part of Ireland, farmers and country people work the land more in the summer as it is bright up until 10 o'clock at night. In the winter, they were more prepared to come and watch Rovers play on a dark evening. So our crowds are well down."

You couldn't make it up:D

Ronnie
27/07/2006, 3:14 PM
Milky tea from glass bottles wrapped in old jumpers for a hard day down the bog!

CuanaD
27/07/2006, 4:07 PM
Thanks Lads! - now I've got the Sawdoctors 'Hay Rap' stuck in me head:o - i'll get a few weird looks singing THAT in Dayler tonight:D :ball:

mypost
27/07/2006, 4:11 PM
We can breathe a sigh of relief that Alan Matthews and Dermot Keely weren't asked for their views on the subject. :o

London-Irish
28/07/2006, 11:51 AM
Wow, the article has created a lot of interest then.

London-Irish
04/08/2006, 12:45 PM
By the way, the Non-League Paper has a circulation of around 70,000 in the Uk so this is good exposure for the Eircom League

dcfcsteve
04/08/2006, 1:21 PM
By the way, the Non-League Paper has a circulation of around 70,000 in the Uk so this is good exposure for the Eircom League

I get it every now and again, as I also follow AFC Wimbledon. Has good distribution as well - big stores like Sainsburys carry it.

Is it your article London Irish ?

London-Irish
07/08/2006, 11:07 AM
No, I am just a fan but I posted the article on here as I thought that fans back home might not have seen it

London-Irish
25/08/2006, 2:04 PM
It looks as if Paul Hegarty was right when he spoke about Derry's UEFA Cup chances in the article then.

passerrby
25/08/2006, 6:13 PM
agument on summer football will run and run while it has had an effect on attendances, unfortunally the only thing that will bring them back is success on the field not returning to winter football.

Dazzy
25/08/2006, 6:18 PM
It looks as if Paul Hegarty was right when he spoke about Derry's UEFA Cup chances in the article then.


Its also good to see that he tonned down his language also:eek: