Dublin Grounds [Archive]

Joris

27/06/2006, 7:41 PM

Hi, i'm a footballfan from The Netherlands and I like to see grounds in the whole of Europe. I have a site dedicated to grounds. Don't know if i'm allowed to post it here, but you can check my profile. It's all in Dutch so quite hard to read, I guess. Now I got a question; I planned a holiday in Dublin from 4th of July till the 9th and want to see the grounds in Dublin. My question is; is it possible to go into that grounds or are they locked? Another question; are there still old grounds which are not in use in Dublin?

Sorry for my crap English, but I don't write in English regulary. Hope you understand my questions.

Student Mullet

27/06/2006, 8:00 PM

There is a game in Belfield on 4th July against Longford. The ground is in the bottom right hand side of this map, between Fosters Avenue and the Stillorgan Road.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.305621,-6.221652&spn=0.013899,0.034761&t=h&om=1

Next season UCD are moving to the Rugby Ground, also on the map, at the top, to the left of where it says Greenfield Park.

You'll have to pay into the game against Longford but you can just walk over to see the rugby ground without any difficulty.

Joris

27/06/2006, 8:32 PM

Student Mullet

27/06/2006, 8:35 PM

Lansdown Road is still here. If you get the train to Bray you pass under the west stand and you can get a good view of the ground.

Student Mullet

27/06/2006, 9:43 PM

In case you have any trouble finding Belfield Park, here's another map.

http://www.stigonline.com/Belfield_directions.pdf

Make sure to go to Dalymount though, it was the national football stadium before the international team moved to Lansdown Road and it has some of the cheapest Guinness in Dublin. The Bar there is open every evening except match days and you can go into the stadium from there. You can see Dalymount on this map and you can walk there (about a mile) from the city centre. You can also get the number 10 bus from Belfield.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1&ll=53.36072,-6.274309&spn=0.006941,0.017381

You can also walk to Croke Park from the city and it's Irelands biggest Stadium (82,000 people). Football games will be held there when Lansdown Road is closed.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1&ll=53.360259,-6.252487&spn=0.006941,0.017381

A face

27/06/2006, 10:02 PM

http://www.ifgrounds.com/

Check this website ... if you go to grounds you'll see a few of the grounds in Dublin. Whitehall also has a ground and Santry .... you'll have to get some directions to them. Tallaght is also not in action yet as its still being built. The RDS was used as a league ground for many years. John Hyland park, you'll have to get directions to that aswell though.

LeixlipRed

28/06/2006, 12:22 AM

Tolka Park (Shelbourne FC's ground) is open Monday to Friday during the day. You can just walk in and look around. No one will stop you from having a good poke around. The office will be open most of the time (Thats under the most modern stand) and someone in there should be willing to chat to you about the ground

Drumcondra Red

28/06/2006, 9:06 AM

I saw Shelbourne was playing against Odense. Which date is that? The 8th?

Its the 9th, I think...

Dodge

28/06/2006, 9:42 AM

Heard that impossible to get into the ground of St. Pats on a non-matchday. Is that true?
Joris, the ground is not open on non match days but the club office will be glad to let you in for photos etc. Directions and contact details on the club website www.stpatsfc.com and there's a club shop for you to spend your hard earned tourist money too :)

Don't bother wiht John Hyland Park its miles from anywhere (I Live near it) and really not worth the effort as its a glorified training pitch

stickyjoe

28/06/2006, 9:43 AM

joris shels v odense is on sunday the 9th july at 3.00. tolka park is handy enough to get to as it has several bus routes and is not too far from the city centre

dcfcsteve

28/06/2006, 10:29 AM

I was thinking about that game. Not sure how late we're arriving in Dublin. I'm also thinking about Bohemians v Derry City (7 July) and Bray v U.C.D. (9 July). I saw Shelbourne was playing against Odense. Which date is that? The 8th? Heard that impossible to get into the ground of St. Pats on a non-matchday. Is that true? And is Lansdowne Road still excisting or are they busy with the works at that ground?

Of the 3 league games you've mentioned above, Bohs v Derry will be by-far the best game (i.e. highest standard of football), and the ground will be the best as well. Dalymount is leaps ahead of either Belfield or Bray's ground.

Plus you can sit-in the Derry end and experience what are widely considered to be the best fans in the league..... :D

So, as the TV ad would say - if you only chose one Eircom league game this season, choose that one.....

el punter

28/06/2006, 10:48 AM

Plus you can sit-in the Derry end and experience what are widely considered to be the best fans in the league..... :D

Being a Derry fan, 'he would say that, wouldn't he?' - but he's right. That's the best game to go to, in the best ground with the best fans in the country.

Schumi

28/06/2006, 12:40 PM

Student Mullet

28/06/2006, 1:17 PM

On old grounds, Pats used to play in Harold's Cross greyhound track and St James's Gate used to play in the Iveagh Grounds in Crumlin. They're about 30 minutes' walk from each other. There's not much to see in either but if you're really committed...If you're really really comitted, Shamrock Rovers used to play in this housing estate.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1&ll=53.313967,-6.248538&spn=0.006948,0.017381

A face

28/06/2006, 1:20 PM

If you're really really comitted, Shamrock Rovers used to play in this housing estate.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1&ll=53.313967,-6.248538&spn=0.006948,0.017381

Housing estate?? ..... i always thought it was a carpark ?? :p

BohDiddley

28/06/2006, 2:04 PM

I was thinking about that game. Not sure how late we're arriving in Dublin. I'm also thinking about Bohemians v Derry City (7 July)
Joris, directions here to The Home of Irish Football.

http://www.bohemians.ie/maps.htm

Joris

28/06/2006, 5:37 PM

Bohemians v Derry was my first choice. Two teams who are well known. Derry played in The Netherlands a few year ago against Vitesse. There was a lot of difference in heights in the level of the pitch.

Croke Park is another stadium I want to visit. I think it's only possible to go in with a groundtour. I heard Ireland are going to play in that stadium. From which date that is? That big terrace (Hill 16 it is, I think) had something to do with the Easter Rising in 1916, but what was the exact story behind it?

From a friend I heard there was a very old ground near the Guiness Brewery (he was there 10 years ago), I that still excisting?

What is the exact place where that old Shamrock Rovers ground was standing? And is there some plaque reminding of the old ground or are there only houses on that place?

Joris

28/06/2006, 5:43 PM

Make sure to go to Dalymount though, it was the national football stadium before the international team moved to Lansdown Road and it has some of the cheapest Guinness in Dublin.

That sounds good.

http://www.ifgrounds.com/
Check this website ... if you go to grounds you'll see a few of the grounds in Dublin. Whitehall also has a ground and Santry .... you'll have to get some directions to them. Tallaght is also not in action yet as its still being built. The RDS was used as a league ground for many years. John Hyland park, you'll have to get directions to that aswell though.

The RDS and the John Hyland Park are they old grounds from still excisting clubs? And do they have stands or only a pitch?

On old grounds, Pats used to play in Harold's Cross greyhound track and St James's Gate used to play in the Iveagh Grounds in Crumlin. They're about 30 minutes' walk from each other. There's not much to see in either but if you're really committed...

A bit of the same question for this grounds; are there still stands or are it just pitches?

Schumi

28/06/2006, 5:48 PM

What is the exact place where that old Shamrock Rovers ground was standing? And is there some plaque reminding of the old ground or are there only houses on that place?It's where Glenmalure Square is marked here (http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1&ll=53.314461,-6.247873&spn=0.001673,0.007231). There's a small monument outside the estate on Milltown Road, complete with the remains of some Bohemians graffiti. :rolleyes:
A bit of the same question for this grounds; are there still stands or are it just pitches?Harold's Cross has a small stand, see here (http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1&ll=53.323953,-6.276884&spn=0.003025,0.007231). The Iveagh Grounds is just a pitch. Actually, I'm not even sure if it's the same pitch that James' Gate played on in the league.

Dr.Nightdub

28/06/2006, 8:50 PM

On old grounds, Pats used to play in Harold's Cross greyhound track and St James's Gate used to play in the Iveagh Grounds in Crumlin. They're about 30 minutes' walk from each other. There's not much to see in either but if you're really committed...

30 minutes? Only if you're on steroids.

From a friend I heard there was a very old ground near the Guiness Brewery (he was there 10 years ago), I that still excisting?

The nearest ground to Guinness is St. Pats - see Dodge's post above for a link to the club website. That one IS 30 minutes walk (or less).

Dodge

28/06/2006, 9:27 PM

15 Minutes you old *******...

NO stnd in Joohn Hyland Park (small shed), old small one in Iveagh Grounds. St. James Gate still play there.

Oh and Schumi, Shels played in harolds Cross longer than us

Dr.Nightdub

28/06/2006, 9:46 PM

15 minutes in a straight line. I was assuming he'd visit the Guinness Storehouse first and so I was allowing time for meandering along afterwards. ;)

Joris

29/06/2006, 8:10 PM

Just bought a map of Dublin. I hope I can find it all, but it shouldn't be a problem with all the tips here. Thanks.

Joris

10/07/2006, 8:31 PM

el punter

10/07/2006, 8:33 PM

Been to most grounds. Dalymouth and Tolka Park are very nice, old grounds. It's a shame if they will knocked down. Although St. Pats was closed. Can someone provided me some pictures of that ground that I can use on my site?

Another question, whta means "Football in Dublin" in Irish? Dublin is Baile Atha Cliath or Ath Cliath, I think.

Btw, Ireland was evry nice. Will definitely visit it again in the future.

Hey Joris, were you wearing a hooped Fred Perry top at the Bohs v Derry game?

I saw someone taking pictures of the fans etc and thought it might be yourself!

How bad was the ref in your opinion?!!

anto eile

10/07/2006, 8:36 PM

Baile �tha Cliath means Dublin town- though everyone takes it to mean Dublin city
�th Cliath means Dublin
football in dublin is "Peil in �th Cliath"
you often see the word "sacar" to refer to football too.sacar being the Irish for soccer

LeixlipRed

10/07/2006, 10:09 PM

Joris were you at the Shels v Finn Harps game by any chance?

John83

10/07/2006, 10:24 PM

Croke Park is another stadium I want to visit. I think it's only possible to go in with a groundtour. I heard Ireland are going to play in that stadium. From which date that is? That big terrace (Hill 16 it is, I think) had something to do with the Easter Rising in 1916, but what was the exact story behind it?
It seems that no one has answered this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_16_%28Croke_Park%29

Joris

10/07/2006, 10:25 PM

Hey Joris, were you wearing a hooped Fred Perry top at the Bohs v Derry game?

I saw someone taking pictures of the fans etc and thought it might be yourself!

How bad was the ref in your opinion?!!

No, but I saw that guy. So I wasn't the only one who was taking pictures. The ref was quite bad. He seems to have no primacy (hope this is the good word) over the players. Also the level of football was a little bit dissapointing. Not much players with good tactical knowledge (although the number 10 of Bohs can be quite good). The atmosphere was quite good, I thought. Not many people (do you know the attendance of the match?), but good atmosphere. If I go to matches in Europe when there are not many people, you don't have any atmosphere. But here it was.

Bohs v Derry was the only game I went to. Was planning to go to Shelbourne v Odense, but my girlfriend wanted to see Armagh v Donegal in Croke Park. That was nice to see, althought we didn't understand all the rules. At Lawnsdowne Road I met the most agressive groundsman ever. He was very angry that I took pictures of the ground. Then I played my role as a foreigner and did as I didn't understand English.

Joris

10/07/2006, 10:28 PM

Joris were you at the Shels v Finn Harps game by any chance?

Was planning to go to that game, and the UCD game the day before, bit it was impossible. The first 3 days we were staying in Camac Valley and we couldn't take the bus to there if we went to that match. It''s a shame, because I really like Tolka Park. Very nice that old grounds. Unluckily you don't see that kind of ground in our top level anymore. Every stadium in our top division is all-seater clone. Very boring.

LeixlipRed

10/07/2006, 10:28 PM

At Lawnsdowne Road I met the most agressive groundsman ever. He was very angry that I took pictures of the ground. Then I played my role as a foreigner and did as I didn't understand English.

Don't you know that taking photos of grass can kill it!! :D

Joris

10/07/2006, 10:29 PM

Don't you know that taking photos of grass can kill it!! :D

I didn't knew that before I visit that ground, but now I do :D .

It seems that the Osama Bin Laden was hiding himself in that ground and the groundsman was his best friend.

LeixlipRed

10/07/2006, 10:31 PM

Yeh they've been letting terrorists (also known as FAI officials) hide out in Lansdowne for years now

el punter

10/07/2006, 10:37 PM

The atmosphere was quite good, I thought. Not many people (do you know the attendance of the match?), but good atmosphere. If I go to matches in Europe when there are not many people, you don't have any atmosphere. But here it was.

Yeah the Bohs and Derry fans would be among the best in the league in terms of making some noise.

Although some Bohs fans who took to calling Peter Hutton 'An Orange Barsteward' are a little intellectually off the pace. These lads must be among the suspects for those who chinned Charlie Bird with random accusations of Orangeness?

CollegeTillIDie

10/07/2006, 10:47 PM

CollegeTillIDie

10/07/2006, 10:49 PM

Yeah the Bohs and Derry fans would be among the best in the league in terms of making some noise.

Although some Bohs fans who took to calling Peter Hutton 'An Orange Barsteward' are a little intellectually off the pace. These lads must be among the suspects for those who chinned Charlie Bird with random accusations of Orangeness?

Bohs were once upon a time a bastion of Anglo Irishness,( had a connection with Trinity hence the Black and Red colours) some people do not know their own club's history. ;)

Joris

10/07/2006, 10:53 PM

Dublin Football grounds should be featured on maps more prominently and included in tourist bumph. The EL should insist on it and should do more to promote themselves as places for tourists to visit. It's a passing trade admittedly but given the proximity of certain hotels to some Dublin EL grounds a potential market. At least as reliable as trying to get more natives to attend games!

Dublin City does that brilliantly. A very small club, but in a lot of shops I found merchandise of the club. You don't saw any merchandise of other clubs in the shops.

LeixlipRed

10/07/2006, 11:01 PM

Dublin City does that brilliantly. A very small club, but in a lot of shops I found merchandise of the club. You don't saw any merchandise of other clubs in the shops.

think you might be confusing generic dublin merchandise with Dublin city merchandise

sonofstan

10/07/2006, 11:02 PM

Dublin City does that brilliantly. A very small club, but in a lot of shops I found merchandise of the club. You don't saw any merchandise of other clubs in the shops.

That's because a chain of shops, Carrolls, primarily aimed at tourists, sponsor Dublin City.

LeixlipRed

10/07/2006, 11:03 PM

That's because a chain of shops, Carrolls, primarily aimed at tourists, sponsor Dublin City.

Oh yeh thats right. ignore my previous post! :o

soccerc

10/07/2006, 11:50 PM

The first 3 days we were staying in Camac Valley

and 500 metres away (as the crow flies) was John Hyland Park, Baldonnell, home of St Francis Fc, eircom League members 1996 -2001

BohsFans

12/07/2006, 12:47 AM

Not much players with good tactical knowledge (although the number 10 of Bohs can be quite good).

John Paul Kelly, shaming young player.

He's probably going to sign for Lillestrom in Norway in the next few weeks! :(

anto eile

12/07/2006, 11:59 AM

Dublin City does that brilliantly. A very small club, but in a lot of shops I found merchandise of the club. You don't saw any merchandise of other clubs in the shops.
dublin city are also known as home farm or home farm everton or home farm fingal.they have changed names 4 times in 10 years.
a ******* franchise of a club. they are a one man operation. joke of a club

The ref was quite bad. He seems to have no primacy (hope this is the good word) over the players.
"authority" is the word you want to use here.
and the referees in the eircom league are so bad its incredible.

anto eile

12/07/2006, 12:18 PM

peil = football
caid = strictly speaking is a word to describe only gaelic football,not confusable with peil or sacar
sacar= sacar
though your point is taken about a lack of any acceptable word

BohsFans

12/07/2006, 1:53 PM

football in dublin is "Peil in �th Cliath"

:eek:

IN

that's not Irish!

BohsPartisan

12/07/2006, 4:48 PM

Peil in atha cliath?
Yeah I believe he was signing books in easons alright back in May.

Joris

12/07/2006, 7:45 PM

dublin city are also known as home farm or home farm everton or home farm fingal.they have changed names 4 times in 10 years.
a ******* franchise of a club. they are a one man operation. joke of a club

The ref was quite bad. He seems to have no primacy (hope this is the good word) over the players.
"authority" is the word you want to use here.
and the referees in the eircom league are so bad its incredible.

Yeah, "authority" was the word I was looking for. That was what that ref hadn't.

Schumi

13/07/2006, 11:13 AM

caid = strictly speaking is a word to describe only gaelic football,not confusable with peil or sacar
Caid was a different game to gaa I thought, an old traditional Irish game similar to rugby.

CollegeTillIDie

13/07/2006, 7:45 PM

Caid was a different game to gaa I thought, an old traditional Irish game similar to rugby.

Correct. And it is alleged , in Ed Van Esbeck's history of the IRFU,that William Webb Ellis was visiting relations in Tipperary while on school holidays from Rugby and saw Caid being played which is where he got the idea for picking up the ball and running with it.
Therefore, if Mr. Van Esbeck's assertion is correct, rugby is an Irish game , and a lot more Irish than Gaelic football .