Man Utd make Carrick bid

[DmanDmythDledge]

Manchester United have had a £10m bid for midfielder Michael Carrick rejected by Tottenham, BBC Sport can reveal.
Spurs dismissed the offer, insisting United would have to double their offer to land the 24-year-old, who is part of the England squad at the World Cup.

Manchester United faxed their offer to Tottenham on Friday, but it was swiftly turned down.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson wants Carrick as a replacement for Roy Keane who left the club last December.

Read more- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/5066204.stm

[CraftyToePoke]

makes a bit more sense of the Stephen Reid to spurs story anyway.

[Terry]

Double there offer? Spurs must be desperate to make a few quid back after all the 500 or 600 signings over the past 2 seasons! I wouldnt even pay the 10 million united are offering:confused:

[sligoman]

I wouldnt even pay the 10 million united are offering:confused:Do you even have 10million Terry?:confused: :p.

[Terry]

Do you even have 10million Terry?:confused: :p.

I do ya, why do you want a loan?

[The Pie Man]

I do ya, why do you want a loan?

why not give it to nick leeson to invest for you or maybe if pat dolan comes to galway you can get him to spend it wisely for you;)

[lim abroad]

could we work out a payment plan

[DmanDmythDledge]

The transfer is official now- £17m.

Over-priced and not good enough for Man Utd. Don't think he will make a good partnership with Scholes either.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Not actually official just yet but will be announced tomorrow or the day after.

[De Town]

He is good enough for United IMHO but not worth 17million. And I actually think he could work well with Scholes. United also after Javier Mascherano. Was one of Argentina's best players in the world cup and plays for Corinthians, which could be a hindrance to any United bid because Corinthians owner(s) are linked to Abramovich which means he could halt the deal if he wanted to.

[4tothefloor]

He is good enough for United IMHO but not worth 17million. And I actually think he could work well with Scholes. United also after Javier Mascherano. Was one of Argentina's best players in the world cup and plays for Corinthians, which could be a hindrance to any United bid because Corinthians owner(s) are linked to Abramovich which means he could halt the deal if he wanted to.
£17m is ridiculous. Liverpool bought Xabi Alonso for £10m, and he's three times the player Carrick is. Lampard wouldn't go for much more than £17m, Carrick is completely over-priced. A huge waste of money IMO, Fergie has lost it. I mean if Carrick is worth £17m, how much is Ashley Cole worth so?! SWP at £24m, Ferdinand at £30m+, Carrick £17m, Michael Owen £17m, Scott Parker £10m+ - all completely over-priced and over-rated. English players are just not worth the money. Only players that are worth big fees are Rooney, Gerrard and Terry.


He is good enough for United IMHO but not worth 17million. And I actually think he could work well with Scholes. United also after Javier Mascherano. Was one of Argentina's best players in the world cup and plays for Corinthians, which could be a hindrance to any United bid because Corinthians owner(s) are linked to Abramovich which means he could halt the deal if he wanted to.
Utd have no money. The fact that they had to wait until the RVN deal was agreed with Real to make an official bid for Carrick should tell you that. I had to laugh at Ferguson the other day, commending RVN on his attitude in training, putting a brave face on etc when in reality he couldn't wait to see the back of him. Worrying times for Utd fans.....

[DmanDmythDledge]

He is good enough for United IMHO but not worth 17million. And I actually think he could work well with Scholes. United also after Javier Mascherano. Was one of Argentina's best players in the world cup and plays for Corinthians, which could be a hindrance to any United bid because Corinthians owner(s) are linked to Abramovich which means he could halt the deal if he wanted to.
Sorry I worded my point incorrectly. Carrick is similar to Andrea Pirlo in that he is a holding midfield player but rather than being a ball winner, he is a creative midfielder. Pirlo has Gattuso playing beside him, who is a box-to-box player who gets stuck into the opposition and will win possession of the ball. Scholes will not win ball in midfield and I think that being too lightweight in CM will cost United dear.

If Mascherano arrives at OT it would be a great signing. If he arrives I think Ferguson could change back to the 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation used towards the end of Keane's Man Utd career. A CM combination of Carrick, Mascherano and Scholes would work well together I think.

[drinkfeckarse]

[QUOTE=4tothefloor]

Utd have no money. The fact that they had to wait until the RVN deal was agreed with Real to make an official bid for Carrick should tell you that./QUOTE]


I'm not sure about that, they still posted a big profit on last years accounts and before any RVN transfer had the added bonus of £12m in their coffers in "silence" money from Chelsea over the Obi Mikel saga.

Personally, I think Carrick is a nice tidy player but I wouldn't pay £10m for him never mind anything above. He doesn't have the class to stamp his mark on a game.

[Terry]

Utd have no money. The fact that they had to wait until the RVN deal was agreed with Real to make an official bid for Carrick should tell you that. Worrying times for Utd fans.....

Actually your wrong there. Will post the link when I find it, but, the glaziers gave Fergie a £40 million treasure chest at the start of the month and was told that whatever money gained from the sale of other players would also be made available to him immediately.

[NeilMcD]

Double there offer? Spurs must be desperate to make a few quid back after all the 500 or 600 signings over the past 2 seasons! I wouldnt even pay the 10 million united are offering:confused:


Spurs have actually done well on transers over the last few years. They made a profit on Michael Brown, Mendez, Pamarot. They have only 2.75 million for Carrick and they are going to get 15 million for him so that has paid for Berbato straight off. The money they got for the Swedish left back paid for Lee the Korean Left back. They paid something like 2 million for Paul Robinson. Lennon was bought for 1 million also. I think Spurs have done some of the best business over the last few years and this transter is an example of this.

[shakermaker1982]

Waste of 15 million if they go through with this.

Hansen might think Carrick's world class but he isn't even close IMO- 2 or 3 neat passes a game is not gonna win you Championships. Mascherano is a step forward and I'm hoping this comes off instead but by the looks of it Carrick is number 1 target now. I think Man Utd will struggle again in trying to compete with Chelski if this is the 'masterplan' for this season. They need 2 new MF and a striker to replace RVN, Saha is ok but will never set the world alight.

[Terry]

hey NeilMcD, dont be quoting other people and putting my name on it !!!!

[NeilMcD]

What are you talking about I just clicked on the quote button that is what you said.

[drinkfeckarse]

hey NeilMcD, dont be quoting other people and putting my name on it !!!!

:confused: Heavy night last night was it :p

[Terry]

What are you talking about I just clicked on the quote button that is what you said.

FECKERS, the lads are laughing at me here in work !!!! APOLOGIES:o :(

[BrayUnknowns]

Utd have no money. The fact that they had to wait until the RVN deal was agreed with Real to make an official bid for Carrick should tell you that. I had to laugh at Ferguson the other day, commending RVN on his attitude in training, putting a brave face on etc when in reality he couldn't wait to see the back of him. Worrying times for Utd fans.....

Wrong.

An offical bid of £10 million was made for Carrick during the World Cup.

[shakermaker1982]

nearly 19 million for Carrick.....

what would a prime Keane go for in todays market??!! I see they have also put in a bid for Senna (a much more reasonable £3million).

[dfx-]

Roy Curtis' article in the Sunday World was good...:D

Ridiculous purchase at a ridiculous price..:)

[De Town]

I see they have also put in a bid for Senna (a much more reasonable £3million).
Very good player IMO but he's pushing 30 so won't be around for long.

[BrayUnknowns]

and people say Utd have no money but FFS are they soft in the head to pay that much for Carrick ?

[shakermaker1982]

8 million is OTT for Carrick. Why not break the bank for Gattuso? Proven at all levels not just against Bolton away.

[drinkfeckarse]

8 million is OTT for Carrick. Why not break the bank for Gattuso? Proven at all levels not just against Bolton away.

Agree and I think they'd get Gattuso for the sort of money they are paying for Carrick. Different story whether he'd up sticks though.

[NeilMcD]

Spurs are laughing on this one I think. Good player gone but 18 millions is great business in my view.

[shakermaker1982]

I tell you what fella's I wouldn't fork out 18.6m on football manager for him!!!! The football world has gone mad. I know they won't have to pay 18 million in one installment, they have plenty of clauses in place that might never be met....but even still.... 18 million?!! Gattuso must be worth 30 million, Pirlo the same. Spurs aren't just laughing, they must be rubbing their eyes out looking at that cheque from Manchester Utd USA Ltd! Spurs can go out and buy the rest of Ivory Coast's midfield now.

[DmanDmythDledge]

£18.6m is far too much for Carrick at the moment, but I think he will be worth that in his prime.

[NeilMcD]

Bit of pressure on him now wearing Keanes number 16.

[DmanDmythDledge]

That's nonsense.

[NeilMcD]

How is it, Already people are now comparing him to Keane etc. Ferguson even said that many players woudl not be willing to take the number as it is added pressure.

[drinkfeckarse]

How is it, Already people are now comparing him to Keane etc. Ferguson even said that many players woudl not be willing to take the number as it is added pressure.

Anybody that compares him to Keane just because he wears the same number is an idiot. Tidy player that Carrick is, he's not a patch on what Keane was and I doubt he'll get close to that level either.

[NeilMcD]

I agree he will never come to Keanes level but because he plays in the same position and is now going to wear his number in the same way that Keane was compared to Robson Carrick will be compared to Keane as he is his replacement. The difference is Keane ended up to be better than Robson and Carrick will not be better than Keane.

[DmanDmythDledge]

How is it, Already people are now comparing him to Keane etc. Ferguson even said that many players would not be willing to take the number as it is added pressure.Ferguson is looking to sign another CM, probably Senna, as a replacement for Keane, so Carrick will be used in a different role. Ferguson is looking to turn him into an all-round midfielder and give him more freedom than what he had at Spurs.

If you let a squad number affect your performance on the pitch you can hardly be called a professional and would be bothered by a number of different stupid things. And when did Ferguson say it would be added pressure?

[NeilMcD]

Carrick seals United move

Michael Carrick has signed for Manchester United after passing a medical. The England midfielder finalised his deal on Monday evening, and will be unveiled as a United player to the media on Wednesday.

Sir Alex Ferguson revealed that Carrick, who should make his United debut against Porto or Ajax at this weekend's Amsterdam Tournament, will wear the number 16 shirt, famously vacant since the departure of Roy Keane in November 2005.

The 25-year-old England international says the move has been timed perfectly to take his career to the next level. "It's an offer that has come at the right time - professionally and personally," he said. "I felt I couldn't turn it down. This is a football decision, a decision not driven by money."

Carrick also thanked Spurs boss Martin Jol for the role played in his development as a player, adding: "I've had a great time at Spurs and the club has been brilliant for me. Martin is a great manager and has done an enormous amount for my career. Without any doubt he has helped develop me into a better player. He gave me a chance when I needed it, stood by me and I will always thank him for that."

Sir Alex said Carrick was encouraged to be given Roy Keane's old shirt number. "I said to him 'I'm giving you the number 16 jersey' so he was delighted at that," said the Reds boss. "I think that showed great courage because sometimes players are a bit superstitious about things like that but he was keen and said he would gladly take number 16."

[DmanDmythDledge]

So you think he will play with two holding midfield players:confused:

[NeilMcD]

No he may play with Carrick, Giggs Ronaldo and Scholes.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Yes that is an option but it will only be a last resort. United have tried to sign Mascherano, Vieira and now Senna- all holding midfield players. Ferguson obviously wants to sign a holding midfield player similar to Keane.

[NeilMcD]

Sorry I see no evidence that they have tried to sign any of these players. Its all paper talk.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Alex Ferguson does not identify potential transfer targets, usually until a bid has been made. He denied interest in Defoe but did not deny interest in Mascherano, Vieira, Senna and Torres. Interest was also declared in Gattuso- http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BB4CEE8FA%2D9A47%2D47BC%2DB0 69%2D3F7A2F35DB70%7D&newsid=350455

[NeilMcD]

All just speculation I am afraid. I prefer to deal in facts. From the quote there it does seem they were interested in Gattuso at one time but are now ruling it out due to Milan getting their punishment reduced.

[DmanDmythDledge]

I know, I can read. It proves that Ferguson wants to sign a player similar to Keane.

[NeilMcD]

Maybe he has found that player, i.e. Carrick.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Maybe he has found that player, i.e. Carrick.I don't see Carrick as a replacement for Keane-they are completely different players. I would be surprised if Ferguson thought differently. Also Man Utd declared their interest in Carrick around the beginning of June I believe. The previous article that I posted the link for would suggest that Ferguson would have been interested in signing Carrick and Gattuso.

[NeilMcD]

So how will the midfield line itself up next season who is going to be dropped from the 4 that I mentioned. Carrick is different to Keane but also similar in that he is a sittling midfielder but more of a passer than an enforcer. Your sitting midfielder can be either or , or in the case of Keane both. It is also not uncommon for Clubs to declare their interest in many players so that if they get rejected at one they have backup and they have done the groundwork on the other.

[BrayUnknowns]

not really, no offical bids have been made of any of the 3 mentioned players, all just linked with United.

[4tothefloor]

Ronaldo - Scholes - Carrick - Giggs

That midfield doesn't impress me at all. Two ageing midfielders in Scholes and Giggs, both have been inconsistant and injury prone in recent seasons. Ronaldo is hot and cold and too unpredictable (not to mention a diving cheating pr!ck). Carrick is tidy, but hugely over-rated. He's no better than a Scott Parker/Jamie Redknapp. I don't think the other clubs at the top are going to be shaking in their boots. No chance of winning the CL with that midfield either. Signing Viera would be a huge step. Looks like he's off the Inter though...

[DmanDmythDledge]

not really, no offical bids have been made of any of the 3 mentioned players, all just linked with United.
United admitted interest in Vieira, Senna has confirmed that United have made an inquiry about him.