View Full Version : League Cup Results (Cork out)
Poor Student
10/05/2006, 8:40 PM
From aertel:
WEDNESDAY MAY 10
EIRCOM LEAGUE CUP SECOND ROUND
Limerick FC 1-0 Kerry League
Guerin 90
Cork City 0-1 Cobh Ramblers
Murphy s/o 90 Warren 8
Bit of a shock to see Cobh put Cork out. Unlucky for Kerry League.
superfrank
10/05/2006, 8:45 PM
Any word on what Murohy was sent off for??
Raheny Red
10/05/2006, 11:11 PM
I heard it was for a stamping incident :confused: - does mean he is out for the next league game :confused: :)
I would think he probably suspended. I would be surprised if he was not. No idea what happened & unlikely to see tv footage but its not as if Danny Murphy doesn't have form as a hot head. He got long stupid ban last season & lost his place in the team as punishment.
OneRedArmy
11/05/2006, 6:07 AM
So in the space of a month he`s managed to be sent off in injury time for punching someone in the head and stamping?!
I`d say the Cockney Rebel has a few anger management issues. Obvious target for opposition teams to wind up.
I`d say the Cockney Rebel has a few anger management issues. Obvious target for opposition teams to wind up.Sure doesn't every team have them, on and off the pitch.;)
I heard it was for a stamping incident :confused: - does mean he is out for the next league game :confused: :)
I thought it meant he would only miss your next league cup game ? Think thats what happened in our game against St. Pats...... but Cobh's web site say's he will miss the match Vs Shels
Corks' worst result in years i'd say. Only Cobh's 2nd win of the season and it's against the current league champions !
daveh
11/05/2006, 11:23 AM
Im not too bothered by this defeat tbh.I know it was a derby game but with the size of our squad we could do with less games
In saying that we still put a strong enough side out to win the game so we should have won it.
paudie
11/05/2006, 12:30 PM
Corks' worst result in years i'd say. Only Cobh's 2nd win of the season and it's against the current league champions !
Hardly our worst defeat in years. I'd say our home defeat to Pats in the league near the end of last season was a small bit worse.
Poor performance though, I'm told, though not a full strength team. We're just not firing on all cylinders this season.
Danny being sent off in the last minute again is just stupid.
Still, our FAI Youths Cup final win last weekend consoles me quite a lot;)
Shocking result with almost full strength team.
pineapple stu
11/05/2006, 12:35 PM
does mean he is out for the next league game :confused: :)
Nope - sending off in the League Cup means a one-match (or more) ban in the League Cup. Micko Donnell was sent off for us in the 2004 Q/F and served the ban in the First Round of 2005 - when he was at first-team training!
Sniffer
11/05/2006, 12:40 PM
All the reports are stating that Danny Murphy is suspended for game against Shels on Monday.
pineapple stu
11/05/2006, 12:45 PM
Must have changed the rule after us taking the p!ss out of it so! Makes more sense in fairness.
On an aside - Cork had a bit of an aura last season as being very tough to beat, etc, which often gives teams a psychological advantage when they have that kind of aura. I wonder in the light of this result - and the fact that Cork have yet to score away from home - if that aura is ebbing a bit? Will teams now go into games against them more confident of being able to get a result?
Schumi
11/05/2006, 1:34 PM
If this league cup red card leads to a suspension in the league (presumably Cork's next game), does the reverse apply too? I.e. could a suspension from a red card in the league be served in the league cup?
brendy_éire
11/05/2006, 1:57 PM
I.e. could a suspension from a red card in the league be served in the league cup?
Aye. Think it was before last season that it was changed so that bans apply for all domestic competitions.
monutdfc
11/05/2006, 2:02 PM
The rule was changed last season.
If you are sent off in the FAI Cup you serve your suspension in the next FAI Cup game if your team is still in the competition If your team is knocked out of the competition your suspension is served in the next league game.
I presume it is the same for the league cup.
monutdfc
11/05/2006, 2:04 PM
If this league cup red card leads to a suspension in the league (presumably Cork's next game), does the reverse apply too? I.e. could a suspension from a red card in the league be served in the league cup?
Not sure about this. Jimmy Fullam was sent off on Saturday and didn't play in the League Cup on Tuesday, but I think he was just rested/dropped. I think he is suspended for tomorrow's game versus Galway United.
harpskid
11/05/2006, 2:39 PM
An automatic suspension must be served in teh competion in which the card was received.
However, because Cork are out of the cup, Murphy must sit out the league game.
Speranza
11/05/2006, 3:56 PM
Are you sure? I would say Cork will finish third at best.
Another point....they do care about it which showed by fielding an almost full strength squad.
Are you sure? I would say Cork will finish third at best.
Another point....they do care about it which showed by fielding an almost full strength squad.
Flynny was playing to get a full-game under his belt,but other than that it was probably the best available.
However I dont think they are bothered about getting knocked out of the league cup.I know its an avenue to the Setanta cup but so are the FAI and league,both of which are far higher up the list of priorities...as i said in terms of our squad it could be a blessing in disguise
Celdrog
11/05/2006, 5:18 PM
...as i said in terms of our squad it could be a blessing in disguise
Anybody else getting a bit bored with the langers continually trotting out about their "small squad"?
Turning into a very convenient excuse. Their squad size is totally within the control of Cork. Plenty of money available to sign new players, decent size gates, some good European runs and League and Setanta money.
If Lennox and Richardson had any cop on they would have a decent sized squad, capable of dealing with the odd injury, suspension and Danny Murphy's increasing repetoire of hand to hand combat.
dancinpants
11/05/2006, 5:58 PM
Have to agree with Celdrog here. Some Cork fans were going on about how hectic their fixture schedule was last year, with Europe, Setanta and the FAI Cup thrown on top of the league campaign. If the Cork board and management had any cop on they would have realised at the end of last season, that this one would be the same...so why didn't they prepare accordingly? Instead of bolstering the squad they trimmed it FFS :eek: . Was it naievity or stupidity? Thats an honest question by the way. If I was Cork fan I'd be seriously pist off about it.
Speranza
11/05/2006, 6:33 PM
Cork fans complaining about their swuad size would be like a Waterford fan saying they are in trouble because they have crap players. It's not as if the team are hit by injuries or some other occurance outside their control.
Anybody else getting a bit bored with the langers continually trotting out about their "small squad"?
Turning into a very convenient excuse.
I think ive mentioned it once before on this forum and nobody is offering it as an excuse,i said we should have beaten Ramblers no matter what team we put out,bad result like but i wont be losing any sleep over it!
desaintsno.12
12/05/2006, 6:38 PM
city fans startin to sound a little like shels fans :D :D
Its not an excuse, its a reality. We have a small squad and have no else to blame but ourselves. However that still doesn't detract from the fact no one gives a **** about the league cup and its the last thing we need is more games in a rubbish competiton. Should have played our entire reserve team bar O' Flynn.
. However that still doesn't detract from the fact no one gives a **** about the league cup and its the last thing we need is more games in a rubbish competiton.
Well Rico obviously cares about it playing practically his strongest side (bar a couple of players) against the might of First Division side Cobh at home!
The League Cup having the golden tickets of a setanta cup place, and this should make clubs give a ***t about it!
when you finish outside the top 2 this season, you might well want to think back on what winning the League Cup could've done for you next season
when you finish outside the top 2 this season, you might well want to think back on what winning the League Cup could've done for you next season
When you finish inside the top 2 then you can talk. Untill then sit back down.
When you finish inside the top 2 then you can talk. Untill then sit back down.
To be honest I don't think we'll finish in the top 2 this season - reckon it'll be shels and derry - but I think we'll finish above cork.
But ignore my other points :rolleyes:
It was clear the players couldn't care less about the game and I couldn't care less either about losing, even to Cobh. My problem with it was playing the first team guys when they probably didn't even want to play and we could have blooded the younger guys. Not a big deal though, we're going through a terrible patch of form and still clinging to 3rd. Monday will tell an awful lot about where this season is going for us and even Shels.
Speranza
13/05/2006, 3:09 PM
This thread is a perfect example of the arrogance of Cork fans in the last two seasons. Soko in particular, you seem ok with the fact that your players couldn't care about losing. I would be furious if City players didn't make an effort for paying punters.
Stop bull****ting, you lost against inferior opposition with an almost full strength team and all is not right in the People's Republic TM. Simple as....
This thread is a perfect example of the arrogance of Cork fans in the last two seasons. Soko in particular, you seem ok with the fact that your players couldn't care about losing. I would be furious if City players didn't make an effort for paying punters.
Stop bull****ting, you lost against inferior opposition with an almost full strength team and all is not right in the People's Republic TM. Simple as....
I'm not okay with it or the general malaise shown against Pats. Its just that I couldn't give a **** about the league cup or any other city fans. Simple as.....
Monday is our biggest game of the year to date so forgive me for not caring about a rubbsih competiton which I never have had much time for bar when we were in the doldrums. We've got shels coming up and if we don't play well there I'll be a bit more concerned.
BohsFans
13/05/2006, 6:22 PM
When's the 1/4 final draw on?
This thread is a perfect example of the arrogance of Cork fans in the last two seasons. Soko in particular, you seem ok with the fact that your players couldn't care about losing. I would be furious if City players didn't make an effort for paying punters.
Stop bull****ting, you lost against inferior opposition with an almost full strength team and all is not right in the People's Republic TM. Simple as....
Its not "simple as" actually and I dont think your in a position to judge if there is something wrong being 400 miles away,we can judge our team fine ourselves down here
3rd in the league 2 points off the top playing poorly,already played in 1 major final this year, our first player ever to be called into the Irish senior squad, champions League to look forward to and current league champions.....were in a bad state alright:rolleyes:
A face
13/05/2006, 10:06 PM
This thread is a perfect example of the arrogance of Cork fans in the last two seasons. Soko in particular, you seem ok with the fact that your players couldn't care about losing. I would be furious if City players didn't make an effort for paying punters.
Stop bull****ting, you lost against inferior opposition with an almost full strength team and all is not right in the People's Republic TM. Simple as....
I think you argument is complete cráp !! :D
I'd say no matter what was said you wouldn't agree, and its getting kind petty and childish at this stage. Celdrog too ... why are you worried about what City are doing or saying ? Leave it off and get on with supporting your own team. The obsession is taking you over fella .... move on, get closure !! :D
Speranza
13/05/2006, 11:29 PM
As usual ego takes priority over logical debate. I knew when Cork were knocked out that the competition would be slated and Cork fans would have a lax attitude. If you hold the LC in such low esteem then why did you pay into the match? Cork are not the behemoth of Irish football that you claim and cannot afford to ignore "lesser competitions" given their lack of squad depth and no attacking edge which will see them finish IMO outside the top 2.
Do you all still hate Shelbourne because it would appear you are slowly turning into Ollie's troops - thug players - Murphy, cheats - George, sore losers - spitting at ref after SC final
Just out of interest, many of the Rebel Army (registered trademark) making the trip next Saturday?
A face
13/05/2006, 11:46 PM
As usual ego takes priority over logical debate.
Come out of the clouds, you'll hurt yourself ..... ego?? in my post? I questioned why there were incessant posts about City from certain quarters and its now ego on my part and got nothing to do with other people obsession, come off the stage now fella.
I knew when Cork were knocked out that the competition would be slated and Cork fans would have a lax attitude.
Who slated the competition and are we the only club to have a lax attitude to LC?? ..... i think you'll the answer is no ..... and why you ask? ..... because its the League Cup !! come on man .... work it out for yourself like.
If you hold the LC in such low esteem then why did you pay into the match?
Man, you'd criticise if we stayed at home aswell .... there is no winning with you !! :D
Cork are not the behemoth of Irish football that you claim
I have never claimed that ........ but i do think it ;-)
and cannot afford to ignore "lesser competitions" given their lack of squad depth and no attacking edge which will see them finish IMO outside the top 2.
Fine .... thats your opinion, you are totally entitled to it ..... every single bit of it and let no one tell you otherwise !!
Do you all still hate Shelbourne because it would appear you are slowly turning into Ollie's troops - thug players - Murphy, cheats - George, sore losers - spitting at ref after SC final
I hates Shelbourne ... they're the worse-est club ever !! :p
And let the club without sin cast the first stone
Just out of interest, many of the Rebel Army (registered trademark) making the trip next Saturday?
Dunno ... i cant go anyway.
When's the 1/4 final draw on?
Apparantely it's on next friday, radio one during half time of whatever game they're covering. I've a bad feeling that even though it's officially an open draw we'll see the eight teams drawn in geographical order!
Speranza
14/05/2006, 12:26 PM
Fair enough Face, we'll agree to disagree. Hope I am priviliged enough to be allowed to have a pint with a Cork man next Saturday before the match. I can only aspire to be allowed in such great people's company. ;) :)
Just out of interest, many of the Rebel Army (registered trademark) making the trip next Saturday?
Not gonna get into the rest cos honestly its not worth it but on this point....i don't think there'l be many. Myself and a lot of others are will be in the middle of college exams, leaving cert soon, game on tv etc. I wouldn't be expecting a crowd
Risteard
14/05/2006, 6:21 PM
I'm going.
Hope Joe and Byrne get a chance (at least 30mins each).
Just out of interest, many of the Rebel Army (registered trademark) making the trip next Saturday?
I have my last and hardest exam Monday week so i wont be going up
wish i was though cos i can see it being one of the games of the season;)
Speranza
14/05/2006, 8:57 PM
It should be a cracker alright and doubt threads like this or top of the table rivalry will ruin the "love-in". Seriously though always brilliant craic between the fans and hope their is a decent crowd up.
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