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Donegalcelt
06/05/2006, 2:11 PM
Anyone going? We're flying Manchester to Dusseldorf Wednesday morning then getting the train over to Eindhoven
Plastic Paddy
06/05/2006, 4:23 PM
I'm not going but I will be rooting for Sevilla after the wonderful reception afforded to Celtic fans in that city before and after the UEFA Cup final in 2003. :cool:

:ball: PP
Donegalcelt
07/05/2006, 11:28 PM
No way. Real Betis are the team in Spain
gustavo
08/05/2006, 12:07 AM
If by "the team in Spain" you mean the team in Spain from Seville that wear green and white stripes then yes , They are the team in Spain.
pete
08/05/2006, 9:20 AM
Anyone going?

Don't bother. Johnny Giles doesn't rate the competition. :p
drinkfeckarse
08/05/2006, 1:20 PM
Hope you enjoy it. Personally I don't find it very appealing, I find Middlesboro about as enjoyable as piles. I'll be doing well if I watch it let alone go to it.
Junior
08/05/2006, 1:28 PM
Hope you enjoy it. Personally I don't find it very appealing, I find Middlesboro about as enjoyable as piles. I'll be doing well if I watch it let alone go to it.

Obviously haven't watched the qtr and semi finals then?

but I know what you mean it doesn't sound the best but Im sure neither of those 2 games did either..............
drinkfeckarse
08/05/2006, 2:22 PM
Obviously haven't watched the qtr and semi finals then?

but I know what you mean it doesn't sound the best but Im sure neither of those 2 games did either..............

To be fair, they were 2 exciting games but IMO that's the exception rather than the rule when it comes to 'Boro. I just don't find them enjoyable to watch (although the same could be said for most teams in England) and I think their fans are quite fickle.

I remember watching the early rounds and seeing the ground less than half full for a few of the group games and thinking it was a kick in the teeth for the Chairman Steve Gibson. He has ploughed tens of millions into the club to deliver European football and once it has been achieved the fans can't be bothered getting off their arses to support the team.

But of course we'll be subjected to the usual clichés from the commentators on Wednesday about "great supporters" etc...:rolleyes:
Junior
08/05/2006, 5:24 PM
To be fair, they were 2 exciting games but IMO that's the exception rather than the rule when it comes to 'Boro. I just don't find them enjoyable to watch (although the same could be said for most teams in England) and I think their fans are quite fickle.

I remember watching the early rounds and seeing the ground less than half full for a few of the group games and thinking it was a kick in the teeth for the Chairman Steve Gibson. He has ploughed tens of millions into the club to deliver European football and once it has been achieved the fans can't be bothered getting off their arses to support the team.

But of course we'll be subjected to the usual clichés from the commentators on Wednesday about "great supporters" etc...:rolleyes:

You're right, even the Basel game (Qtr final) was half empty. The SF was pretty full.

Boro have only got 9k tickets, the stadium in Eindhoven only holds 32k which seems remarkably small for a european final.
NeilMcD
08/05/2006, 5:31 PM
Put your money on spurs to do well next year in it.
DmanDmythDledge
08/05/2006, 5:57 PM
Put your money on spurs to do well next year in it.
Ye, definitely. They have to be strong favourites. This year I think Boro will do it. I fancied them to win it from the start and I'm kicking myself I didn't put a bet on them to win it when they went 2 down against steaua.:mad:
superfrank
08/05/2006, 6:37 PM
Ye, definitely. They have to be strong favourites.
I can't see how Spurs are. They didn't get past the first rounds in the English League Cup or the FA Cup. They lost to Grimsby, I think, in the League Cup and Leicester in the FA Cup. I don't think that makes them strong favourites for a cup competition.
gustavo
09/05/2006, 12:04 PM
Anyone else think its typical amateurism from RTE that they refer to Sevilla as Seville ?
Aberdonian Stu
09/05/2006, 1:20 PM
I'll tell you what really grinds my gears, when Aidan Cooney insists on saying Internacional instead of Inter or even Internazionale. They're Italian, not Spanish!
Larry 'da' Wyse
09/05/2006, 8:52 PM
Have a fiver on Seville at 16/1 (last of the big spenders) so will be cheering 'em on.

Would gladly spend potential winngins towards getting a ticket for the Champions League Final (no laughing down the back). Have flights etc. already booked but getting a ticket seems impossible.

Any spares anyone?(I said no laughing)
superfrank
10/05/2006, 7:19 PM
Have flights etc. already booked but getting a ticket seems impossible.
I hope you enjoy Paris then...

Sevilla 1-0 up.
Saint Tom
10/05/2006, 8:25 PM
check this for a cliché on ITV after going 3-0 down..

"even by boro's super human powers of recovery this game is over"..:D
superfrank
10/05/2006, 8:34 PM
Final score 4-0. Sevilla destroyed Boro. I think it was the decision to switch the formation to 4-2-4 when it was still only 1-0 that caught themselves out.
FarBeag
10/05/2006, 8:43 PM
Best team won.Excellent in the first half, even better in the second.Delighted for Sevilla. Lovely city lovely people.
CollegeTillIDie
10/05/2006, 9:01 PM
Boro... muck... Sevilla class ... English Premiership... muck La Liga ... Class
pete
10/05/2006, 11:07 PM
English Premiership... muck La Liga ... Class

I only saw bits of it in the pub but looked like england outplayed by spain. Shows the huge gulf in league standards. Spain have had a variety of teams in the CL & getting to the final of the Uefa Cup whereas no team outside top 4 in the EPL has done anything in 10 seasons of european football - Middlesboros final appearance & Leeds lunacy excepted.
pete
10/05/2006, 11:31 PM
:confused: .......you mean 10 seasons?
& Leeds 'lunacy'.....Peter Ridsdale et al?

Yes & err Yes. previous post edited now.
londonirish17
11/05/2006, 6:35 AM
Boro... muck... Sevilla class ... English Premiership... muck La Liga ... Class

At this stage, La Liga is by far the best place to play anywhere in Europe.
Spanish clubs kind of dominate the european club scene in the same way the Italians did throughout the 80' and 90's.
gustavo
11/05/2006, 7:53 AM
Boro... muck... Sevilla class ... English Premiership... muck La Liga ... Class

Wouldnt agree with you there. True Sevilla definitely deserved to win but i feel 4-0 flattered them somewhat . Also you arent really comparing like with like there Middlesborough are the 12th best team in the Premiership and Sevilla are the 5th best team in La Liga.
Roadend
11/05/2006, 9:00 AM
Wouldnt agree with you there. True Sevilla definitely deserved to win but i feel 4-0 flattered them somewhat .

It certainly did not, Middlesbrough had 2 chances and a penalty shout and were consistently cut apart at will by Seville. They were indeed 4 goals and possibly more better than an awful Middlesbrough side. Too many of their better players not turning up really killed them.
Junior
11/05/2006, 9:42 AM
I'll play devils adovcate, but should Arsenal beat Barca next Weds (a possibility) will all these quotes and posts be reversed re: EPL vs La Liga?
pete
11/05/2006, 11:06 AM
I don't think La Liga is considered the best league in europe just based on last night. Its probably a tight fight for 2nd place between England & Italy who both have similar structures (i.e. top 4 is the same almost every year).
gustavo
11/05/2006, 1:01 PM
I don't think La Liga is considered the best league in europe just based on last night. Its probably a tight fight for 2nd place between England & Italy who both have similar structures (i.e. top 4 is the same almost every year).
Yeah thats what the co efficeints think too
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/crank2005.html
hoops1
11/05/2006, 1:17 PM
Liverpool finished fifth and won the Champions League
pete
11/05/2006, 2:12 PM
Liverpool finished fifth and won the Champions League

By top 4 i meany Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester & Liverpool, not actual league positions.