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sligobhoy67
22/04/2006, 12:14 AM
where and how did we get it - heard a flithy rumour off a Dub - anyone "shed" any light on this topic?
sligobhoy67
22/04/2006, 12:57 AM
thanks but that sounds like a bit of a guess RT, anybody got anything concrete? a source or even a link??
sligobhoy67
22/04/2006, 11:03 AM
cheers RT - I'd really appriciate it.
Bravo
22/04/2006, 12:41 PM
where and how did we get it - heard a flithy rumour off a Dub - anyone "shed" any light on this topic?
what's the rumour?
sligobhoy67
22/04/2006, 3:49 PM
that we took it off Shams in honour of the style that they play.
That's the truth but don't let that stand in the way of making up something else
Rovers1
22/04/2006, 7:57 PM
That's the truth but don't let that stand in the way of making up something else
:rolleyes: whered ye get yer name from???
sligobhoy67
22/04/2006, 9:12 PM
wheres Keairns whne u needem???
:rolleyes: whered ye get yer name from???
Shamrock Avenue in Ringsend
sligobhoy67
23/04/2006, 9:16 AM
what about the rovers bit?
Plastic Paddy
23/04/2006, 9:19 AM
It doesn't answer your specific question SB67 but here's an interesting link to the British Council website that seeks to explain club names to, in this case, the Japanese. Sligo Rovers receives an honourable mention on page 2 (as do the Milltown Travellers... ;) )
:ball: PP
gustavo
23/04/2006, 10:08 AM
Is this some kind of invisible link PP:)
Plastic Paddy
23/04/2006, 10:28 AM
:o
http://www.britishcouncil.org/japan-sport-footballculture-names-explain-1.htm
:ball: PP
A lot of the seniors who support us say that when Sligo fc was founded we were the top side at the time so Sligo took 'Rovers' as a kind of respect. As I wasn't around at the time I can't say this was definate but a guy from Sligo I used to work with says that the story is definately true as his grandad had told him the same thing. I often wondered why Sligo Rovers wasn't just Sligo fc, why the founders felt it necessary to add the 2nd bit. Would it be possible that there was a Sligo gaa side at the time and they wanted to make sure both sides weren't mixed up?
sligobhoy67
23/04/2006, 10:11 PM
Hoopy - your full of shiit. U've just mad evey word of that up.
Rovers was an amalgimation of two club - St. Marys and another club who were around before Shams were even founded so I dont believe anything you say.
As for all the bs about why we have a second name a not just Sligo FC - however many Irish teams are name just all the place they come from?
I take it by the time of your post you'd had a few? Or are you old enough to drink? I know my clubs history you muppet
Actually according to The Website the Name Sligo Rovers was first Seen around Sligo in 1908, So Considering Shams never played a competitive game until 1903/1904 and did not win the Leinster Senior league till 1915 it is very unlikely that they were copied them ! Sorry about dashing your ego trip lads !
Rogue you may be right, all I can do is tell you what I've heard from people, including a Sligo fan, about the name.
Patrick Dunne
24/04/2006, 5:14 PM
Rovers would have been a reasonably common football team name
as far back as the late 19th century - Blackburn Rovers were amongst the
founding members of the football league. GUFC were formed as Galway Rovers
in 1937.
sligobhoy67
25/04/2006, 1:23 PM
surely someone has the definative info on this
Fivesilver
26/04/2006, 9:29 AM
I dunno - I think it's perfectly possible the team was named in honour of Shams. They used to have a good team, you know. :D
Anyway, for god's sake, lads, did we not spend enough time talking about Division 1 teams last year? Can we get back to talking about the Premier now? :p
sligobhoy67
26/04/2006, 1:44 PM
where not talking about Shams per se - what we are trying to find out is if anyone knows why WE were names Rovers
sligoman
26/04/2006, 2:36 PM
what we are trying to find out is if anyone knows why WE were names RoversBecause Sligo Rovers sounds better than Sligo United does:rolleyes: :D.
NY Hoop
26/04/2006, 2:44 PM
Actually according to The Website the Name Sligo Rovers was first Seen around Sligo in 1908, So Considering Shams never played a competitive game until 1903/1904 and did not win the Leinster Senior league till 1915 it is very unlikely that they were copied them ! Sorry about dashing your ego trip lads !
Eh Rovers was founded in 1901. Nothing to do with ego at all. Again you took our name because when you were founded in 1929 we were the leading light in the game here. Dont fret about it accept it move on...........
There are published books about our club.
KOH
sligoman
26/04/2006, 2:46 PM
when you were founded in 1929Eh, 1928 actually;) :D.
sligobhoy67
26/04/2006, 4:51 PM
I'm not ruling it out but know one was provided a source or a link to see that info so until someone does its stays up for debate IMO.
MervilleUnited
26/04/2006, 8:51 PM
Lads,Think this was touched on earlier, but I think the majority of Clubs on these islands (Hello Peter Robinson!:eek: ) who have the name Rover, are situated on or near ports.
As one line dictonary states: One entry found for rover.
Entry Word: rover
Function: noun
Text: 1 a person who roams about without a fixed route or destination <ever since he developed a strong case of wanderlust in college, he's been a rover> -- see NOMAD
2 someone who engages in robbery of ships at sea <a story of the days when sea rovers plied the Caribbean> -- see PIRATE
For More Information on "rover" go to Britannica.com
Basically a cool name of the time, no dublin conspiracy:D
And describes our club to a T, we were the Chelsea of Ireland from our earliest days, always a sprinkling of nomads and pirates among our ranks mixed with the best local talent, Typical seaport club.:ball:
red bellied
26/04/2006, 9:17 PM
This is more like it sounds like Sligo Rovers to a tee, nice one Merville.
sligobhoy67
26/04/2006, 9:18 PM
merville I take that on board but what about Blackburn or Doncaster - nowhere near the coast
red bellied
26/04/2006, 9:27 PM
They had Dick Turpin instead a pirate of the road!
Redzer
27/04/2006, 2:15 PM
They had Dick Turpin instead a pirate of the road!
I think Dick Turpin never played professional football:D
MervilleUnited
27/04/2006, 3:11 PM
(Doncaster/Blackburn: Canals I think linked them to the sea) Without Again referring back to the history of these “islands”, (Arise Sir Ian!:eek: ) I think that we all were seafarers once, for trade, and transport etc. A Rover was one that bucked the trend, went against the grain, refused to buckle down to authority. A sort of 19th and 20th Century Cool Bad Boy! To the present day in the case of our Rovers! I know that when I was growing up, cool American Soccer names like Cosmos, Aztecs etc were always part of our street team names! So the Founders of the Club wanted the same for their Era. Seems to fit!;)
Will listen to any other theory though! Off now to watch our Under 16 Cosmos, sorry, United(:D !) team play in the League Quarter Final at Cuilbeg, should be a cracker!
Eh Rovers was founded in 1901
I remember a grandfather of a friend in Blackrock told me that he thought that people claiming Shamrock Rovers being founded in 1901 was wrong and that he was sure it was 1906? Was that just the ranting of one old fella or is a a common claim?
Anyone ever hear of any other team with the name Ramblers besides Cobh?
Anyone ever hear of any other team with the name Ramblers besides Cobh?
The Dublin City Ramblers :D
Other than that, from wiki:
Leigh Ramblers football club were founded in 1902 and celebrated in fine style
their centenary in 2002 with over 400 guests attending a presentation at the cliffs pavilion Southend.
Burnham Ramblers F.C.
Schumi
27/04/2006, 3:48 PM
Anyone ever hear of any other team with the name Ramblers besides Cobh?
A quick google gives Burnham Ramblers (http://www.burnhamramblers.co.uk/Burnham%20Ramblers%20Home%20Page.htm) and Leigh Ramblers (http://www.leighramblers.co.uk/). There's a few American football teams too but I assume they don't count.
WeAreRovers
27/04/2006, 5:00 PM
I remember a grandfather of a friend in Blackrock told me that he thought that people claiming Shamrock Rovers being founded in 1901 was wrong and that he was sure it was 1906? Was that just the ranting of one old fella or is a a common claim?
Is that a can of worms I see before me? Up until Robert Goggins book, it was generally accepted that we were founded in 1899 (it was painted on the gates of Milltown) Goggins met some old guy in a pub who claimed it was 1901.
The other Rovers historians (and me) still maintain it was 1899 but that Rovers didn't play competitively until 1901. Both sides of the story are detailed in Eoghan Rice's brilliantly-titled book We Are Rovers.
KOH
sligobhoy67
02/05/2006, 1:40 PM
has anyone done any digging on this?
Fivesilver
02/05/2006, 2:53 PM
A definitive answer would be nice, but I'm not going to lose any sleep either way.
It could well be true, in which case, big deal (you're named after us, my daddy's bigger than your daddy etc.), or it might be nonsense, in which case what are we going to do, have a party and celebrate?
As I said before, there's not much point in waving the history and traditions of Shams over anyone's head when those traditions were betrayed and buried along with Glenmalure Park.
I have lots of respect for a number of long-established teams around the country, but it doesn't extend to the pale imitation of Shamrock Rovers now inhabiting a spot in Division 1, never mind how trendy it seems for certain media types to make dubious claims to having grown up on the terraces roaring on the Hoops.
red bellied
02/05/2006, 3:02 PM
It could be the other way round! (Sligo Rovers rumoured to be circular 1900) Shams founded 1901 or even a few years after that.
placid casual
10/05/2006, 2:19 PM
shamrock rovers - big fish in a small pond
sligo rovers - small fish in a big pond.
reading some of the posts in this forum would lead most to believe that
(a) attendences at sligo has fallen off since promotion- surely a world football first.
(b) they possess the single worst pitch in both leagues
(c) the fans of sligo are suffering a form of altitude sickness and instead of concentrating on lookin towrads the summit are too busy chiding those below.
bad move my friends.
Guts&Glory
10/05/2006, 3:08 PM
shamrock rovers - big fish in a small pond
sligo rovers - small fish in a big pond.
reading some of the posts in this forum would lead most to believe that
(a) attendences at sligo has fallen off since promotion- surely a world football first.
(b) they possess the single worst pitch in both leagues
(c) the fans of sligo are suffering a form of altitude sickness and instead of concentrating on lookin towrads the summit are too busy chiding those below.
bad move my friends.
(a) Not fallen off but not as big as first expected however Shels attendance was a healthy 3,500 - how many Premier teams (or BIG 1st Div teams) can quote figures like that or higher ?
(b) Read Fenlons and Hearys comments post Shels game where they said they hadnt played on any decent pitch away from Tolka this season that Sligo was just as bad as Waterford and others.
Give Tolka 2 months and it will resemble the beach it did last season again.
Hows the Shams home pitch doing??? OOPS
(c) All fans chide teams they consider rivals/teams they dislike that are not currently as successful as they are - its part and parcel of football. Same way we get it when others are doing better than us.
Return to Football History and Knowledge 101 and come back with some more mature arguements.
placid casual
10/05/2006, 4:14 PM
eh calm down there little man calm down.
I'm simply going by whats been discussed on this forum since the new season began, most of it I hasten to add by sligo fans themselves.
as regards your comment on knowing my football history thats quite amusing thank you.
no te preocupes.
placid casual
10/05/2006, 4:25 PM
"The dullard's envy of brilliant men is always assuaged by the suspicion that they will come to a bad end"
Max Beerbohm
Guts&Glory
10/05/2006, 10:16 PM
"The dullard's envy of brilliant men is always assuaged by the suspicion that they will come to a bad end"
Max Beerbohm
Unless you are actually going to put forward factual and valid discussion points or debates get out of the Sligo Rovers forum.
Student Mullet
11/05/2006, 3:26 AM
Unless you are actually going to put forward factual and valid discussion points or debates get out of the Sligo Rovers forum.If you're going to put forward intelectual sounding quotes which no mortal man can posibby decifer, you're welcome to join the UCD forum. However, you must be prepared to either defend their relevance or re-register with a new username.
Paraic
11/05/2006, 8:43 AM
Closing this thread, gone on / off topic too often.
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