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Told this morning the IRFU are now considering to jump onto the GAA bandwagon and petition the government to allow Rubby to be played there. Any truth in this?
gspain
09/04/2006, 5:51 PM
Rugby wouldn't be a problem for Tallagt nor would some GAA games.
However this court case is about DELAYING Tallaght for years not getting access.
I was under the impression the numbers of games per year/season etc that could be played at Tallaght had to be limited to appease local residents concerns, to have 2 different sporting bodies using the ground would be bad enough however to have three would be ridiculous. Aren't local concerns an issue anymore as they seemed to be a show stpper when Rovers were managing the project alone.
Sam Savic
09/04/2006, 6:10 PM
It's a municipal stadium. If the SDCC want to allow one or two rugby matches to be played there, that's their business. They can do what they like with the stadium once it doesn't impact with Rovers 40 dates.
I doubt many Rovers fans would have a problem with a few rugby games played there. The problem with GAA matches is the pitch & dressing room areas would have to be made larger therefore changing the design significantly & therefore delaying further...
Mouthpiece
09/04/2006, 8:32 PM
Word is that Rovers will break their silence on the matter this week too
Forever Dreamin
09/04/2006, 8:35 PM
The GAA are acting like spoilt kids, why do they want access to a stadium which will hold a maximum of 10,000 and probably a lot less.
THey have plenty of land in south dublin to develop far better facilities with a much bigger capacity. It would make more sense for the GAA and the IRFU to build a ground in south dublin with a 30k capacity which would suit both leinster rugby and the Dubs!
CAnt understand the crap the GAA are going on with, they would be far better off developing something they would have a use for.
Roverstillidie
09/04/2006, 10:22 PM
Word is that Rovers will break their silence on the matter this week too
its got nothing to do with Rovers, its between the SDCC and the spudshaggers. of the IRFU jump in, its not as bad as the bigots, the stadium wont need to be redesigned.
Good luck to the IRFU
this is getting very tiresome. you have made your point. you want tallaght to fail because you dont have enough confidence in your selves to block leaving inchcire. if you have nothing to add, say nothing.
Buller
09/04/2006, 10:25 PM
Cant understand the crap the GAA are going on with, they would be far better off developing something they would have a use for.
Its pretty simple really, they're scared of a successful and prosperous well-run community football club in such a prime location. Therefore they're trying to delay/stop tallaght stadium from going ahead. They dont even need it....
Dodge
09/04/2006, 10:49 PM
this is getting very tiresome. you have made your point. you want tallaght to fail because you dont have enough confidence in your selves to block leaving inchcire. if you have nothing to add, say nothing.
Actually I'd like to Tallght to go ahead. I just don't want Pats there.
And as for not saying anything new... has anybody on this topic in the last three months?
Mouthpiece
09/04/2006, 11:10 PM
its got nothing to do with Rovers, its between the SDCC and the spudshaggers
Well aware of that fact............point being made was that Rovers are expected to stick their 2p worth in later this week
Roverstillidie
09/04/2006, 11:31 PM
Well aware of that fact............point being made was that Rovers are expected to stick their 2p worth in later this week
expected by who? the gaa havent actually done anything yet, what are they to respond to? media speculation?
Actually I'd like to Tallght to go ahead. I just don't want Pats there.
then why the smartárse comments supporting the GAA and IRFU?
CollegeTillIDie
10/04/2006, 5:22 AM
Well if you have to share with anyone I'd prefer to share with the eggchasers. After all they have been sharing facilities with footie since the 1920's when Lansdowne Road hosted it's first soccer international. Galway United played an entire EL season in a rugby ground while Terryland was being redeveloped and turned into a football stadium. And Longford Town have also in the past been hosted by their rugby club. Out in Belfield, to give another example,
UCD are about to be hosted by the rugby club when Belfield Park gets built on. So Eggchasers are alright by me, they have looked after football and been great neighbours in the past and if it keeps the GAA out so much the better!
hamish
10/04/2006, 6:10 AM
Well if you have to share with anyone I'd prefer to share with the eggchasers. After all they have been sharing facilities with footie since the 1920's when Lansdowne Road hosted it's first soccer international. Galway United played an entire EL season in a rugby ground while Terryland was being redeveloped and turned into a football stadium. And Longford Town have also in the past been hosted by their rugby club. Out in Belfield, to give another example,
UCD are about to be hosted by the rugby club when Belfield Park gets built on. So Eggchasers are alright by me, they have looked after football and been great neighbours in the past and if it keeps the GAA out so much the better!
Pity they aren't so ecumenical in schools.:(
If it doesn't impose further delays I don't see the problem, the likelyhood is they wouldn't use it much anyways. There'd be concern about the state of the pitch after a rugby match though?
I think the GAA are settings a dangerous precedent for themselves. They want to play in the ground and base this on the fact that public money is being spent on it so it should be available to all. Personally I agree, but the same goes for Croke Park, Parnell Park, and any other ground that gets a grant/money from Government or a County Council. If they'd agree to that, then I've no problem.
But I don't think that'll happen. Sure aren't they even looking for us to pay their players grants out of sports funding?
That said, I do feel sorry for Rovers. Having grown up in Tallaght I think that a home ground for an eircom League club would be great for the community. It's just a pity that things didn't really work out that way and Rovers will be, basically, tenants to the SDCC.
Will the FAI or eL make any comment on this does anyone think or will they just leave Rovers to sort it out on their own?
CollegeTillIDie
10/04/2006, 7:26 AM
Pity they aren't so ecumenical in schools.:(
A lot of that is down to the attitude of individual teachers.. after all are the GAA ecumenical in schools? They seem to have a monopoly on sending coaches into Primary schools , especially for girls, yet the FAI are not allowed to set foot in those self same schools!
monutdfc
10/04/2006, 8:39 AM
They seem to have a monopoly on sending coaches into Primary schools , especially for girls, yet the FAI are not allowed to set foot in those self same schools!
a bit OT, but is that true?
Will the FAI or eL make any comment on this does anyone think or will they just leave Rovers to sort it out on their own?
As the rovers lads keep telling everybody, they've nothing to sort out. Its the SDCC's ground and they can do whatever the hell they like with it.
I WISH the FAI and the el stay out oout of it altogether
WeAreRovers
10/04/2006, 10:46 AM
Well aware of that fact............point being made was that Rovers are expected to stick their 2p worth in later this week
Says who? Rovers have been silent on this for a number of very good reasons. And those reasons still apply.
KOH
max power
10/04/2006, 10:57 AM
Good luck to the IRFU
Dodge i'd say if public hangings were played for Tallaght you'd be right beind it:D ..........so would i:D
Dodge
10/04/2006, 11:18 AM
As long as I get to pick who's been hanged (or hung? - discuss)
REVIP
10/04/2006, 12:42 PM
Has the GAA concern to use Tallaght arisen from the plan to have a South Dublin county side playing in Division 4?
From http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=58043
How - in practical terms – would the National Leagues be adapted to have regard for this framework?
Create 4 Divisions – with nine teams in each. Dublin would play in Division 1 – it would have first choice on all Dublin players. Teams from North, South and West Dublin would commence participation in Division 4. Each team participating in the League would play four home and four away games and the team in top position would be declared winners of their respective Divisions.
North, South and West Dublin would play their home games as follows: North Dublin – Parnell Park, South Dublin – Tallaght/RDS and West Dublin – Abbottstown
Does the redevelopment at the RDS, which will mean it's not available to Leinster for some months, take into account that the GAA plan to play there?:confused:
Why don't Pats share at Dalymount as only a short journey across the liffey? I wouldn't think Bohs have such problems with Pats directors? Is there some kind of south-north divide?
WeAreRovers
10/04/2006, 1:39 PM
As long as I get to pick who's been hanged (or hung? - discuss)
Hanged.
KOH
Sam Savic
10/04/2006, 5:31 PM
Hanged.
KOH
That's right WAR. If they were curtains they would be hung. Because we are talking about something live, then hanged is the correct word - ......being hanged, not been hanged.
hamish
10/04/2006, 5:36 PM
A lot of that is down to the attitude of individual teachers.. after all are the GAA ecumenical in schools? They seem to have a monopoly on sending coaches into Primary schools , especially for girls, yet the FAI are not allowed to set foot in those self same schools!
Jeez, that's news to me - when I was running the schools shower, we sent coaches into loads of Primary Schools and secondary too.:confused:
Principals and cliques also play a roll too CTID - take it from me amigo;)
TBH I suggest The Tallaght be hired at the highest possible rate on a match per match basis to the Gah and eggball - Rovers and the local authority splitting the profits.:D
thejollyrodger
10/04/2006, 8:12 PM
Told this morning the IRFU are now considering to jump onto the GAA bandwagon and petition the government to allow Rubby to be played there. Any truth in this?
Gypsy scúm bags. I hope its all lies
sonofstan
10/04/2006, 9:23 PM
Gypsy scúm bags. I hope its all lies
what's it got to do with us?
thejollyrodger
10/04/2006, 9:36 PM
Eircom League clubs shouldnt have to ground share with bogball or rugby
Dr.Nightdub
10/04/2006, 11:20 PM
Why don't Pats share at Dalymount as only a short journey across the liffey? I wouldn't think Bohs have such problems with Pats directors? Is there some kind of south-north divide?
For the same reason we don't want to share Tallaght - our home is Richmond Park.
Clones Road Cas
11/04/2006, 9:48 AM
Eircom League clubs shouldnt have to ground share with bogball or rugby
Alright i have my doubts behind some of the clubs motives in south dublin, but i dont buy this line about no groundsharing with any other sport. Rugby League and Rugby Union ground share with soccer as a matter of course in the UK becuase saving revenue is crucial to both clubs.
Given the disastrous nature of the finances of nearly every Irish club we should be happy to share with whoever we can. The sooner we can get past this uniquely Irish bigotry that infests our sporting community the better.
If they can do it in belfast its ajoke that we cant do it here.
gspain
11/04/2006, 2:05 PM
Agreed have no problems sharing stadia particularly when getting government grants.
In fairness there has never been an issue between football and rugby here. Tallaght should be and I imagine will be available to any sport that wishes to use it. The issue with the GAA is not about access to Tallaght but they want to delay Tallaght for years. They believe (and I agree appreciate Rovers fans won't like it) that this would kill Rovers and they could then have a free run in promoting their "sport" to the youth of Tallaght.
At any stage rugby could be played in Tallaght just as rugby league wa splayed in Tolka.
The GAA are the only "sporting" organisation that restrict access to its grounds and can trot out the usual 800 years of oppression from Robbie Keane and Ronan O'Gara :confused: however I would hate to see any football in this country try the same even in the face of extreme bigotry and provocation from the GAA as in this case.
If they can do it in belfast its ajoke that we cant do it here.
Do what in Belfast? Groundshare?
Sam Savic
11/04/2006, 4:09 PM
Wasn't Windsor Park offered to a camogie team for training purposes as they were preparing for a final and had nowhere to train.
Patrick Dunne
11/04/2006, 4:15 PM
Monaghan United and Linfield groundsharing at Windsor Park would be impractical.
thejollyrodger
11/04/2006, 8:29 PM
I wasnt on about bohs by the way ;)
thomas
12/04/2006, 5:46 AM
No reason why rovers wouldn't set up a GAA or Rugby club to get the councils other 20 dates...
hoops1
12/04/2006, 8:43 AM
Thomas your idea is so crazy it might just work
Genius!
Jerry The Saint
12/04/2006, 8:50 AM
No reason why rovers wouldn't set up a GAA or Rugby club to get the councils other 20 dates...
I thought that's what the Hoops basketball club was for. Multi-sport groundsharing, SDCC have two clubs as permanent tenants - everyone's a winner! :D Tallaght stadium might not be ideal for basketball on wet and windy days but it couldn't be any worse than playing football in the RSC...
WeAreRovers
12/04/2006, 11:49 AM
No reason why rovers wouldn't set up a GAA or Rugby club to get the councils other 20 dates...
Sssshhhh!!!!
Just because you're thousands of miles away doesn't give you carte blanche to tell the world about our strategy. ;)
KOH
paudie
12/04/2006, 4:47 PM
TBH I suggest The Tallaght be hired at the highest possible rate on a match per match basis to the Gah and eggball - Rovers and the local authority splitting the profits.:D
If the stadium was finished Rovers/SDCC could rent it to all comers.
However its clear the GAA ploy is to delay the completion of the stadium as long as possible.
Going off topic a bit what is the timetable for the completion of the stadium?
Or is it all on hold due to the 6 GAA clubs row?
manic da hoop
13/04/2006, 8:28 AM
AFAIK it is on hold until after the judicial review is heard - proberbly not until October. That is, unless, the High Court throws it out without granting them a hearing.
anto eile
13/04/2006, 6:35 PM
Has the GAA concern to use Tallaght arisen from the plan to have a South Dublin county side playing in Division 4?
From http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=58043
How - in practical terms – would the National Leagues be adapted to have regard for this framework?
Create 4 Divisions – with nine teams in each. Dublin would play in Division 1 – it would have first choice on all Dublin players. Teams from North, South and West Dublin would commence participation in Division 4. Each team participating in the League would play four home and four away games and the team in top position would be declared winners of their respective Divisions.
North, South and West Dublin would play their home games as follows: North Dublin – Parnell Park, South Dublin – Tallaght/RDS and West Dublin – Abbottstown
Does the redevelopment at the RDS, which will mean it's not available to Leinster for some months, take into account that the GAA plan to play there?:confused:
4 dublin teams in a 36 county gaaball league?not going to happen
anto eile
13/04/2006, 6:36 PM
. The sooner we can get past this uniquely Irish bigotry that infests our sporting community the better.
so how do you propose we rid the country of the gaa?
hamish
13/04/2006, 6:57 PM
so how do you propose we rid the country of the gaa?
With lots of these:) ;)
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