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Final venue not decided.
Shels fined 2000 euro + another 3000 but suspended pending future conduct.
Drogs not allow call in replacement keeper.
iceman
06/04/2006, 7:31 PM
Think the Shels fine is down to Nutsy refusing to give some post-match interviews , as agreed.
Cant argue with the decision regarding a replacement 'keeper for Drogs. Different situation if it were due to injury.
paudie
07/04/2006, 10:49 AM
Think the Shels fine is down to Nutsy refusing to give some post-match interviews , as agreed.
Another blow to Shelbourne's self appointed title as "the most professional club in Ireland"
A TV company pumps big money into the game and reasonably requests pre and post match interviews with managers.
Shels repeatedly don't comply with this agreements for some reason, probably because they didn't like the result of the match:mad:
A face
07/04/2006, 11:24 AM
Shels repeatedly don't comply with this agreements for some reason, probably because they didn't like the result of the match:mad:
To be honest i couldn't give a toss about what Nutsy does but if it starts effecting the rest of us then there is a problem. I mean a fine is the result of his actions but its actually the interview they wanted, not all this fúcking about. I hope he doesn't start píssing off the one station that has seen fit to invest in our game in the last few years.
Dassa
07/04/2006, 12:04 PM
If Linfield are in the Final it will be up in NI. If two EL clubs likely to be Tolka?
A face
07/04/2006, 12:17 PM
If Linfield are in the Final it will be up in NI. If two EL clubs likely to be Tolka?
I dont actually know the story, is it every second year unless its two IL clubs or two eL clubs ??
Dassa
07/04/2006, 12:19 PM
Just going on last year 1 IL and 1EL team and it was Dublin surely Belfast would then have its turn if 1 from each, but I dont actually know,just guessing.
paudie
07/04/2006, 12:59 PM
Just going on last year 1 IL and 1EL team and it was Dublin surely Belfast would then have its turn if 1 from each, but I dont actually know,just guessing.
If it's a Linfield v Cork final I'd say City will push hard for the final to be in Dublin.
It'll be the day before the Munster v Leinster rugby Euro Cup semi so City will say there will a bigger crowd at the game if it's on in Dublin.
Linfield will obviously look for it to be played in Belfast having played in Dublin last year.
dcfcsteve
07/04/2006, 1:22 PM
If it's a Linfield v Cork final I'd say City will push hard for the final to be in Dublin.
It'll be the day before the Munster v Leinster rugby Euro Cup semi so City will say there will a bigger crowd at the game if it's on in Dublin.
Linfield will obviously look for it to be played in Belfast having played in Dublin last year.
City may well want it in Dublin if both teams get that far, but fairness suggests it should be in Belfast.
Complicated arguements involving a rugby game the day wouldn't wash with the organisers. If the promise of hordes of rugby fans hanging around fior an extra day and thronging to see a footbnall match 24hrs later really is that important an issue, Belfast is less than 2 hours up the road from Dublin. Yees can spend the night in Ath cliath and head up to Windsor afterwards.
Anyways - premature discussion, given no-one's in the Final yet....
The only thing we know for certain is if Drogheda somehow win in Windsor then final will be in Tolka.
Bald Student
07/04/2006, 2:08 PM
The only thing we know for certain is if Drogheda somehow win in Windsor then final will be in Tolka.Is it definately set for Tolka? If it has to be in the Republic could we not move it around a bit?
paudie
07/04/2006, 2:57 PM
City may well want it in Dublin if both teams get that far, but fairness suggests it should be in Belfast.
....
I see your point but where the final was held last year has no relevance to City unless all clubs knew before the comp started that an IL/EL final this year would be in Belfast. I'm not sure if that was the case.
If not City would be entitled to argue for Dublin.Belfast is closer to Dublin than Cork is so City wouldn't be gaining a huge advantage over Linfield.
Setanta's views come into it as well. Would they prefer a 30% full Windsor Pk on live TV or a 80-100% Tolka?
Of course all the above speculation is premature as you said;)
Bald Student
07/04/2006, 3:02 PM
I'm surprised by this to be honest. If there was a problem I tought it would be better to resolve it quietly without any negative public comment.
Shelbourne - Television liaison issues
The Setanta Sports Cup Committee decided to fine Shelbourne the sum of EUR5,000 for persistent non co-operation in relation to television and liaison issues. The Committee suspended EUR3,000 of this fine subject to there being no further adverse reports in relation to the club for the remainder of its participation in this year's Tournament.
But maybe they tried that but had to go public a la revenue to get Shels to move...
Bald Student
07/04/2006, 3:13 PM
But maybe they tried that but had to go public a la revenue to get Shels to move...Maybe but I would have thought that the 5,000 euro fine would have been enough.
Maybe they missed payment ;)
Buile Shuibhne
07/04/2006, 4:51 PM
The SSC committee overstepped the mark, the sanction against Shels is being withdrawn.
Buile Shuibhne
07/04/2006, 4:54 PM
Media Statement:
Having considered correspondence from Shelbourne FC in relation to the imposition of a €5,000 fine (€3,000 suspended) in relation to television liaison issues, the Setanta Sports Cup Committee has decided to defer its decision and withdraw the fine imposed, and has now invited Shelbourne FC to attend a meeting of the Committee to discuss these matters. The meeting will take place in Dundalk on Tuesday 16th May.
ENDS
Further information:
Andy Needham
Media & Public Relations Officer
eircom League
80 Merrion Square
Buile Shuibhne
07/04/2006, 5:17 PM
http://www.shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=315
What was the fine originally imposed for?
Dangerous for Shels to be looking for resignations in their current impending homlessness state.
CollegeTillIDie
10/04/2006, 7:44 AM
If it's Linfield V Cork how about staging it in Dundalk?
Linfield and Dundalk co-operate in the Dunfield Youth Cross Border project as things stand...no on second thought considering the knacker element that would come out of the woodwork for a game in Oriel , Dublin, Newry or Belfast would be better options.
Jerry The Saint
10/04/2006, 10:17 AM
What was the fine originally imposed for?
Non-cooperation with the TV company that has made a massive cash/publicity investment in Irish football. Presumably, they don't want to deal with them because Setanta are jealous of Shelbourne's professionalism and need to "take a long hard look at themselves...":rolleyes:
Heres how i see the final venue...
Drogs v Shels should be at Tolka.
Linfield v Shels should be Windsor.
City v Linfield shoud be Tolka.
City v Drogs should be in Tolka/Turners Cross.
United Park is not good enough for any final pairing.
ColinR
10/04/2006, 1:35 PM
Drogs v Shels should be at Tolka.
Linfield v Shels should be Windsor.
City v Linfield shoud be Tolka.
City v Drogs should be in Tolka/Turners Cross.
United Park is not good enough for any final pairing.
agree with all of them apart from a drogs-shels final, which i think should be in dalymount
holidaysong
10/04/2006, 4:41 PM
If it's Linfield V Cork how about staging it in Dundalk?
Jesus as long as it doesn't turn out to be a repeat of what happened the last time Linfield played in Oriel Park.
Oriel Park would be too small unfortunately.
Perfect final for me is Cork vs. Linfield in Tolka.
Roverstillidie
10/04/2006, 7:49 PM
from shelsweb.... the victimhood continues
Shels call for resignations by Fintan Cassidy
In view of the fact that yesterday’s penalty which was imposed on Shelbourne FC has now been rescinded, the club now calls on the Setanta Sports Cup Committee to resign, in particular Mr Milo Corcoran and Mr Michael Hayes for their part in acting ultra vires to the powers vested in them and in denial of natural justice
even if they went ultra vires, thats acted outside their power to fine shels to the rest of us, natural justice? fúck off, the same rules apply in europe, managers are obliged to give a post match press conferece. they are the rules and you broke them
yet again, shels find a loophole in the rules and get away with it. and try and pretend they are martyrs, being picked on by the big bad setanta men.
can this club do anything with grace, even when they get a result?
A face
11/04/2006, 2:02 AM
agree with all of them apart from a drogs-shels final, which i think should be in dalymount
Agreed on this and the others but .... will Linfield see it that way ??
Dassa
11/04/2006, 11:19 AM
was just writing about this in the other setanta thread. if the competition is cross border and if there is a team from both leagues in the final, surely it is NI's turn to have the final. one year about sounds fair.
was just writing about this in the other setanta thread. if the competition is cross border and there is a team from both leagues in the final, surely it is NI's turn to have the final. one year about sounds fair.
Bit unfair on Cork City supporters to have to travel 300 miles each way on a saturday night. Don't forget ko is 7.45pm which means overnight accomadation required. Cork City had 6000 for home semi final & a trip to Windsor would restrict those that travel to Belfast. Out nearest away group game was 200 miles away.
Similarily i think it would be unfair on Linfield to travel to Cork.
Dassa
11/04/2006, 11:35 AM
yea but if you hold the final in Dublin 2 years in a row. it basically says that the organisers want to keep all the revenue for the ROI capital, two years in a row. If you were going to do this idea about a stadium in between it should have started last year, with a neutral ground picked. It didnt so you cant change it each year. I know its unfair on Cork but the precedent was set last year by the competition and to change it will look unfair.
daveh
11/04/2006, 12:55 PM
yea but if you hold the final in Dublin 2 years in a row. it basically says that the organisers want to keep all the revenue for the ROI capital, two years in a row. If you were going to do this idea about a stadium in between it should have started last year, with a neutral ground picked. It didnt so you cant change it each year. I know its unfair on Cork but the precedent was set last year by the competition and to change it will look unfair.
I dont think the final was held in tolka last year because of shels,i think it was going to be there no matter who was in the final,could be wrong but im sure that was it.
I think belfast is closer to Dublin than we are anyway so it would be harsh to make us travel up to Belfast or linfield to travel down here,should be in dublin now that we are in the final.There might not even be an argument in the end cos drogheda are well capable of causing a shock.
From a fans point of view though it would be a bigger occasion to play linfield
holidaysong
11/04/2006, 1:16 PM
The final last year was always going to be in Tolka unless it was two Irish League teams in the final in which case it would have been in Windsor Park.
Tolka Park for the final is the fairest option in my opinion.
Why was it going to be at Tolka,surely this is biased. the decision shouldnt have been made until the final teams were known and then a neutral venue picked that suited both.
Sinéad K
11/04/2006, 2:09 PM
If the Blues make the final then it's only fair that it's played at Windsor, nice ground & I'm sure the Eircom league boys will appreciate the pitch. And the final is fixed for a Saturday so make a overnight stay out of it (did it twice in the space of 6 weeks last year for the Derry v Cork matches at the X) and Belfast is not a bad spot for a night out. Also you may get more than a few neutrals at the game. If it's in Belfast I will probably pop along myself as will a few other Belfast based Derry fans, as we did last year when we were not even in the competition.
Roverstillidie
12/04/2006, 12:34 AM
cáwk v drogs, so tolka it is. what a waste of bandwith most of that guff was
SeanDrog
12/04/2006, 7:28 AM
competely agree RTID
The pitch was muck at Windsor last night in their surprising defeat to Drogs. Tolka the obvious option now.
Celdrog
12/04/2006, 10:13 PM
The pitch was muck at Windsor last night in their surprising defeat to Drogs. Tolka the obvious option now.
The defeat of Linfied was not much of a surprise to us. Nor were a lot of the Portadown or Dungannon fans surprised.
When will you take us seriously Pete? Top of the league and Setanta cup finalists. We must be doing something right.
Can you imagine the implosion in Cork if we win the Setanta cup, we would then be champions of Ireland :D
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