ESPN Classic - Sky channel 442

[beautifulrock]

I know there is another thread on here saying that there is too much football on TV, but this is a little different. CLassic games everynight at 10.00pm tonight its 1985 UEFA cup final Everton V Rapid Wien and MAn U V Barca in the 91 UEFA final on Friday. Looks interesting and might be a few forgotten gem on it.

[anto1208]

I know there is another thread on here saying that there is too much football on TV, but this is a little different. CLassic games everynight at 10.00pm tonight its 1985 UEFA cup final Everton V Rapid Wien and MAn U V Barca in the 91 UEFA final on Friday. Looks interesting and might be a few forgotten gem on it.

the final that year was nt great the semi was a much better match v b munich

it kills me seeing that everton team in 85 , one of the top teams in europe tipped to win the europeen cup had won the cup winners cup and all around them domestically .only for the red sh1te across the park to get them banned something the club and english football is only just recovering from now 20 years later .

and the morons have the cheek to call evertonians bitter blues,

[Junior]

and the morons have the cheek to call evertonians bitter blues,

you sound pretty bitter to be honest............


I was at that Barca v Man U game - Cup Winners Cup final it was, Mark Hughes scored a cracker from a very acute angle, played in Rotterdam.

[beautifulrock]

yes sorry the Man U/Barca was the Cup winners cup final, my mistake.

Very interesting channel check it out.

[Poor Student]

it kills me seeing that everton team in 85 , one of the top teams in europe tipped to win the europeen cup had won the cup winners cup and all around them domestically .only for the red sh1te across the park to get them banned something the club and english football is only just recovering from now 20 years later .


Rapid got to that final under highly dubious circumstances. Everton just scrapped past UCD in the first round. It was 0-0 at Belfield and only 1-0 at Goodison. I think UCD were within inches of scoring the away goal at the end which would have put Everton out. I think someone told me before that an Everton player said it was their hardest tie in the tournament.

[hamish]

Rapid got to that final under highly dubious circumstances. Everton just scrapped past UCD in the first round. It was 0-0 at Belfield and only 1-0 at Goodison. I think UCD were within inches of scoring the away goal at the end which would have put Everton out. I think someone told me before that an Everton player said it was their hardest tie in the tournament.

Remember that game - think there was at least 10,000 at that encounter. Was Sky's Paul Dempsey on that side - remember him playing against Athlone at right full (or left full) for UCD??

[Junior]

the final that year was nt great the semi was a much better match v b munich

it kills me seeing that everton team in 85 , one of the top teams in europe tipped to win the europeen cup had won the cup winners cup and all around them domestically

Didn't Man U win the FA Cup that year? Norman Whiteside if I remember correctly and the Kevin Moran sending off.

[Aberdonian Stu]

I'm pretty certain Dempsey was gone by tha stage as he only played about a half a season with us. He's one of my favourite presenters and I wish ITV had brought him along with McGuigan for their boxing coverage. McGuigan is the one shining light of their current broadcast team.

[Macy]

Didn't Man U win the FA Cup that year? Norman Whiteside if I remember correctly and the Kevin Moran sending off.
Yeah, the year of the scouse busters. Semi win (after a replay) against Liverpool, final against Everton. Peter Reid the cheating scouse untc with the dive, and then typical scouse playing up for the camera's pretending to save Moran. :rolleyes:

There's a DVD of the semi's and final - get hold of it if you can. When football used to be played by men. :D

[beautifulrock]

Macy seems like you should get the DVD of the game yourself, I am no fan of either Reid or Everton but it was no dive, silly tackle by Moran but a red card was harsh.

As for the game shown last night, a few things I noticed.

1. Clough was excellent as co commentator and only talked when he had something interesting to say unlike Andy Gray on Sky these days.

2. Speaking of Andy he had a first touch of a mule but a good target man none the less, Sharpe was the brains of that partnership

3. Sheedy was class

[anto1208]

Macy seems like you should get the DVD of the game yourself, I am no fan of either Reid or Everton but it was no dive, silly tackle by Moran but a red card was harsh.

As for the game shown last night, a few things I noticed.

1. Clough was excellent as co commentator and only talked when he had something interesting to say unlike Andy Gray on Sky these days.

2. Speaking of Andy he had a first touch of a mule but a good target man none the less, Sharpe was the brains of that partnership

3. Sheedy was class


andy was a good player , the only player to win both the PFA Player and Young Player of the Year in the same season.
sharpe was outstanding , lineker joined as well for the 85 /86 season scoring 41 goals after andy left ,

sheedy and trevor stevens used to chip in their fair share of goals about 15 each from the wings . ( now adays if a striker gets 15 goals its really good never mind 15 each from your wingers ).


oh the good old days im going to have a little cry for myself now :(

[Junior]

oh the good old days im going to have a little cry for myself now :(

Anto - weren't you about 5 or 6 then judging by your profile????????

ahhhh the good ole days wha????

[anto1208]

Anto - weren't you about 5 or 6 then judging by your profile????????

ahhhh the good ole days wha????


i was 6 1/2 :D

evertonians are born not manufactured .

those games are some of my earilest footy memories from about 83 on wards ,that and maradona in mexico 86 , i can remember standing 2 feet from the tv mouth open in amazement , then at the final whistle running out the back to try all the tricks ..great days

[CollegeTillIDie]

Remember that game - think there was at least 10,000 at that encounter. Was Sky's Paul Dempsey on that side - remember him playing against Athlone at right full (or left full) for UCD??

No Dempsey had got a gig with the BBC in Belfast in 1983 and so missed out on the Cup win and all the European stuff that followed. I wrote him a letter back in the 1980's to find out the background to how he joined UCD and at what stage he left. He told me he was offered a new contract in 1983 but the TV gig came along in BBC , how could he say no?

[CollegeTillIDie]

Rapid got to that final under highly dubious circumstances. Everton just scrapped past UCD in the first round. It was 0-0 at Belfield and only 1-0 at Goodison. I think UCD were within inches of scoring the away goal at the end which would have put Everton out. I think someone told me before that an Everton player said it was their hardest tie in the tournament.

Howard Kendall implied it was the hardest game in programme notes for the Home League game before their semi-final with Bayern Munich. I was shown it by a died in the wool Toffees fan.
" Next Wednesday we play Bayern Munich in the European Cup Winners Cup Semi-final first leg. Their defence cannot be harder to break down than UCD's was." That was the actual quote. The best tribute to Messrs. Robert Lawlor, Patrick Dunning, Kenneth O'Doherty , Martin Moran as well as Mr. Alan O'Neill I have ever seen.

I had the pleasure of meeting Derek Mountfield ( Everton centre-half at the time) when he was managing Cork City and he confirmed that view to me.
I was introduced to him by one of my friends in Cork who is a City fan as a UCD fan. He said " Oh I remember your team well" He also mentioned us on one or two TV interviews he did at the time with Multichannel and also with TV3.I was at one of their European games and was in the ground early before the visiting team had arrived.

[CollegeTillIDie]

I know there is another thread on here saying that there is too much football on TV, but this is a little different. CLassic games everynight at 10.00pm tonight its 1985 UEFA cup final Everton V Rapid Wien and MAn U V Barca in the 91 UEFA final on Friday. Looks interesting and might be a few forgotten gem on it.

Sorry to be pedantic but they were European Cup-winner's Cup Finals.
However the point made about this channel is you know you are getting a good game before you watch. which is unlike seeing the Live one where you are as likely to see a boring game as a good one. You should go out to more games guys and gals at least you might get a giggle at some of the chants or comments from the sideline.

[Junior]

Sorry to be pedantic but they were European Cup-winner's Cup Finals.


And just to be even more pedantic. Thats been picked up on already 2 or 3 times;)

[CollegeTillIDie]

Remember that game - think there was at least 10,000 at that encounter. Was Sky's Paul Dempsey on that side - remember him playing against Athlone at right full (or left full) for UCD??

Yes believe it or not nearly 10,000 punters paid in to see UCD play in Europe that September evening back in 1984.

Pretty amazing as only 8,000 were at the original FAI Cup final in Dalymount between the Hoops and College and only 6,500 were at the replay. At least half of whom were up for Rovers :D

Of course our record gate was for a Friendly against the other Merseyside team and no not Tranmere Rovers, who played a Friendly against UCD at Lansdowne Road 23,500 punter paid in to see that game in May 1995 in our Centenary game which we lost 3-1.
Not bad for a team of students that had just won The First Division title!

Our record TV audience was estimated at about 10 million when we played in the World Collegiate Championship Final, in Las Cruces New Mexico in the USA in April 1987 against Sangamon State. A Mexican University,Universidad Veracruzana , had been in the Semi-final and were expected to beat UCD but they lost. A Mexican Cable TV channel relayed the game across the border as well as to Hispanic viewers in the South Western USA. And the Ratings were estimated at around 10 million .

[Poor Student]

10,000 punters paid to see UCD or thousands paid to see Everton? How many away fans were there given the proximity to Liverpool?

[CollegeTillIDie]

10,000 punters paid to see UCD or thousands paid to see Everton? How many away fans were there given the proximity to Liverpool?

Given we had the goodwill of many fellow LOI supporters there to cheer us on, we had a fair number paying in to see us. There were about 2,500 travelling Everton fans, not sure how many domestic Everton fans there were though.
The fans were well behaved, at the game and in Dublin generally, but as if to justify the poor reputation of English football fans had a row amongst themselves on the Ferry home :D