View Full Version : GAA clubs threaten judicial review on Tallaght stadium
paudie
30/03/2006, 10:49 AM
From eircom.net
Six Dublin GAA clubs in Tallaght determined to prevent the half-built stadium intended for Shamrock Rovers from being completed as a soccer-only facility have again indicated they may initiate a judicial review.
Thomas Davis, St Jude's, St Anne's, St Mark's, Faughs and Croí Ro Naofa want the pitch dimensions extended so Gaelic games can be played at Tallaght Stadium.
But the Government insists the stadium will be finished as a soccer-only facility and has instead offered to assist the GAA develop 26 acres of Dublin county board-owned land in Rathcoole.
"What we're looking for is a mirror image to Parnell Park on the southside," spokesman for the six Tallaght clubs David Kennedy said today. "There is no stadium facility on Dublin's southside to promote Gaelic Games."
But Minster for Sport John O'Donoghue is standing his ground, insisting the agreement entered into with Shamrock Rovers would be "abided to".
He said yesterday he was "disappointed with the attitude of some of the (GAA) officials out there".
The Government insists funding for the project will be withdrawn if the stadium - as was once mooted - becomes a muti-sport facility.
But Kennedy has hit back at this stance and says the GAA clubs are considering legal options.
"We'd like the position to be resolved through consensus . . . and are seeking discussions with the Minister. However, we are addressing all the legal aspects and have until April 12th to initiate a judicial review. Certainly we'd prefer not to have to go down that route but it's under consideration."
Kennedy insists the entire Dublin county board, and not just the six Tallaght clubs, are pushing for inclusion in the stadium's plans.
"This issue was raised at the Dublin county committee meeting last week, and all 96 clubs in Dublin have formally taken this on as official Dublin policy," he told RTÉ Radio's Morning Ireland.
"We've also had discussion with the authorities in Croke Park in the last few days and they've been very supportive of us."
But O'Donoghue is refusing to budge. He reminded the GAA of the Government's €110 million invested in Croke Park as well as 34 per cent of the funding allocated under the sports capital programme that has also gone to the association.
Kennedy insists there is no funding available to develop a new GAA stadium to rival Parnell Park. "The Minister's stance represents a major departure from traditional funding mechanisms for stadia and sporting facilities," he said
"In the past, the Government has co-funded certain investments for the GAA, but here we have a stadium that will be pretty-much 100 per cent funded by the Government."
Nothing the GAA is doing, Kennedy said, represents negative sentiment towards Shamrock Rovers who, he acknowledged, have "needs and aspirations for priority fixtures" at the stadium.
The Shamrock Rovers board met the Minister last week where he reiterated his position to see the stadium completed as a soccer facility.
Rovers hoped to be in the ground by the end of the current season, although March 2007 is more likely.
sonofstan
30/03/2006, 11:30 AM
Heard this in the car this morning - Kennedy got to state his case with no hard questions - like why the f uck don't you build a stadium yourself then? - from whoever was presenting, and no one from Rovers. Billy Lord should demand a right of reply from Morning Ireland.
paudie
30/03/2006, 11:33 AM
I can't work out the legal basis on which any judicial review would be based.
Why would be Dept of Sport and/or SDCC be legally obliged to ensure Tallaght could accomodate GAA?:confused:
ignore them - word to the wise - it will cost them a fortune to carry through on this threat - and they won't win - they wont risk a penny on this they're just hoping some of o'donoghue's rivals take up their cause so they can shake it up a little
sonofstan
30/03/2006, 11:42 AM
I can't work out the legal basis on which any judicial review would be based.
Why would be Dept of Sport and/or SDCC be legally obliged to ensure Tallaght could accomodate GAA?:confused:
exactly. Would anyone challenge a local authority for building a swimming pool because it didn't incorporate a tennis court?
BohDiddley
30/03/2006, 11:49 AM
Nothing the GAA is doing, Kennedy said, represents negative sentiment towards Shamrock Rovers.
Just as well it was radio and he didn't have to deliver that with a straight face.
I cannot believe the cheek of these people. Then again, sheer brass neck has never done them any harm. It'll be interesting to see if the FFers have the will to stand up to them.
paudie
30/03/2006, 1:04 PM
It'll be interesting to see if the FFers have the will to stand up to them.
In fairness I think O'Donoghue has made a statement in the Dail that Tallaght will be for (association) football only.
Shamrock Rovers fans must be going mad over this.The stadium has been delayed for years and now this kind of nonsense will delay it even further :mad:.Just because the Gaa opened up Croke Park on a temporary basis doesn't mean they can have a claim on any newly built football stadium.
Lets just hope any Rovers fans with split loyalties now see what the GAA is at - trying to kill Shamrock Rovers.
A face
30/03/2006, 1:57 PM
Lets just hope any Rovers fans with split loyalties now see what the GAA is at - trying to kill Shamrock Rovers.
I dunno anything about where their loyalities lie but if they are in any way uncertain about how this looks, i just want to say in no uncertain terms, the GAA are really pushing the boat out here, its clear that they know exactly what they are at.
WeAreRovers
30/03/2006, 2:14 PM
Lets just hope any Rovers fans with split loyalties now see what the GAA is at - trying to kill Shamrock Rovers.
He won't. ;)
KOH
sniffa
30/03/2006, 5:10 PM
From eircom.net
"What we're looking for is a mirror image to Parnell Park on the southside," spokesman for the six Tallaght clubs David Kennedy said today. "There is no stadium facility on Dublin's southside to promote Gaelic Games."
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This could be the answer to the relocation of Shels. Get them to ground share in Parnell Park. Maybe even Bohs could join them.
Brilliant idea ....... problem solved!!!!!!!
It makes no sense. Has anyone asked the GAA what they want access to a stadium with only 3000 seats? I would assume the GAA have numerous facilities like that in south dublin as most of those GAA clubs are loaded with cash...
Anyway the FAi has already invested a large sum in grants to the stadium.
This can only be a plan to stop Rovers entering Tallaght as they seen as a "threat" by some.
green-blood
30/03/2006, 6:27 PM
The GAA own 26 acres in Rathcoole, just around the corner, in the same council area. This is all about getting huge govenment cash to develop that land.
Grab All Association
A face
30/03/2006, 6:33 PM
Grab All Association
Thats about the size of it !! :eek: :o :mad:
gael353
30/03/2006, 6:38 PM
Id say bring them on and let them go through the motions and cost them loads of money in legal fees and other. The min they do the head office of the GAA will see a huge bill comming their way and caution them to withdraw their actions. To take action against not only rovers but also the council and the gov will only destroy the six clubs financially. So if its rovers or them i say lets see them vanish.
A face
30/03/2006, 6:45 PM
Id say bring them on and let them go through the motions and cost them loads of money in legal fees and other. The min they do the head office of the GAA will see a huge bill comming their way and caution them to withdraw their actions. To take action against not only rovers but also the council and the gov will only destroy the six clubs financially. So if its rovers or them i say lets see them vanish.
No harm in that !! :evil smirk:
hamish
30/03/2006, 6:50 PM
Typical RTE.:rolleyes:
On the 6pm news, Joe Stack's "report" never even alluded to the fact that the GAA have their own facilities in Tallaght.
Roverstillidie
30/03/2006, 7:05 PM
Id say bring them on and let them go through the motions and cost them loads of money in legal fees and other. The min they do the head office of the GAA will see a huge bill comming their way and caution them to withdraw their actions. To take action against not only rovers but also the council and the gov will only destroy the six clubs financially. So if its rovers or them i say lets see them vanish.
meanwhile this delay means we are definitly out of the super fai league and remain homeless, possibly fatally so?
fúck that
A face
30/03/2006, 7:48 PM
meanwhile this delay means we are definitly out of the super fai league and remain homeless, possibly fatally so?
fúck that
If the minister say no, there thats that .... aint it ??
Bald Student
30/03/2006, 8:09 PM
If the minister say no, there thats that .... aint it ??Eventyally but even if you're in the wrong you can use a judicial review to hold stuff up for maybe a year or two.
exactly. Would anyone challenge a local authority for building a swimming pool because it didn't incorporate a tennis court?
Well,if the GAA ran tennis in Ireland.........:D :D :D
Seriously though, this stinks to high heaven. I just hope O'Donoghue sticks to his guns. One little aside in the Herald(and yes, I know I shouldn't take that comic seriously, but still) caught my attention. It was stated that the Government stated that they would fully fund Tallaght on condition that Rovers and Patswould use it. Any attempt to attach such a condition should be fiercely resisted by fans of both clubs. The vast majority of Pats fans have made their feelings pretty clear on the issue of moving to Tallaght, and Rovers future shouldn't be dependent on Pats being bullied/bribed out of their home.
Roverstillidie
30/03/2006, 8:58 PM
Eventyally but even if you're in the wrong you can use a judicial review to hold stuff up for maybe a year or two.
and there you have it. the stadium is useless to them. they have their own site 2 miles away earmarked for a stadium. the 6 clubs all have excellent facilities. morally is difficult to argue that they can get in to tallaght and shels not parnell park.
but they are biting the hand that feeds, so i presume they are flexing muscles to get cash for rathcoole. and the dept have stated that they will play ball on this. great article in hotpress about it this week:
Does Rovers Spat Reek of Anti-Soccer PRejudice
Craig Fitzsimons
In the wake of last year's historic decision by GAA Congress to open Croke Park to the once-despised 'foreign games' of soccer and rugby, the hope was widely expressed that small-minded factional rivalries between the followers and administrators of dirfferent sporting codes were, finally, a thing of the past. Such idealistic assumptions have been shattered by the ugly spat now developing over the future of hte proposed Tallaght Stadium.
For tenuous political reasons, GAA enthusiasts used to feel that those who took an interest in rugby and soccer were somehow being 'un-Irish', a position which in retrospect seems petty, ridiculous and faintly fascist.
Undoubtedly, an equally knee-jerk anti-GAA reaction can be seen to have prevailed among soccer and rugby enthusiasts of a certain age.
Ireland has changed beyond recognition in the last 20 years - in most respects for the better - and one of the positive side-effects has been the virtual disappearance of such sentiments on either side of the old divide.
Today's average Irish sports fan takes an unabashed interest in all four of the main codes. The current Taoiseach, devoted equally to Manchester United and the Dubs, would be a good example. Sport, after all, should be about bringing people together, not dividing them.
Or so you'd think. The Tallaght saga appears to suggest that in certain quarters, sporting bogotry is alive and well. The as-yet-unfinished, 6,000 capacity stadium is intended to house Shamrock Rovers and, possibly, St. Patrick's Athletic. The government are happy to fund its construction, provided the stadium is used only for soccer.
Six GAA clubs in the south-west Dublin area (Thomas Davis, St. Anne's, St. Mark's, St. Jude's, Faughs and Crio Ro Naofa) have challenged this edict, requesting that the stadium be 're-designed as a community facility' and available for Gaelic games.
The request sounds reasonable, until you bear in mind that the GAA receives government grants in the region of Eur17m every year for the upkeep of stadia which it steadfastly refuses to share with other sporting codes.
From the moment its proposed existence was announced in 1996, the stadium has been besieged by planning problems and financial difficulties: this latest row threatens its very future. The Sports Minister, John O'Donoghue (himself a staunch Kerry GAA man) has stuck to his guns and made it clear that he will withdreaw funding from the project unless it is a soccer-only stadium. If Government funding is indeed withdrawn, it is highly unlikely that the stadium will be built at all.
Most GAA clubs are thriving very well as it is: nationwide, its clubs have received a whopping Eur135m of public funding since 1998. An official list detailing the distribution of funding for 2005 reveals allocations that range from the modest (Eur20,000 for County Carlow's Fighting Cocks GFC) to the extravagantly lavish (Eur380,000 for St. Bridgid's GAA club in Dublin). In contrast, only two Eircom LEague teams (Bray Wanderers and Cork City) received any funding at all, the latter for refurbishment at Turner's Cross.
Rovers' position is perilous. On the pitch last year, they suffered relegation from the Premier League; off it, they were forced into examinership by debts of over Eur3m.
A supporters' consortium, the 400 Club, successfully forced out the old regime, but without the municipal stadium in place, their future is a bleak one.
St. Pat's would also benefit enormously from leaving their aging home in Inchicore. The Genesis report recommended ground-sharing (with Shelbourne and Bohemians sharing Phibsborough's Dalymount Park) as the obvious way forward if soccer in this country is ever to thrive.
A proper, publicly-funded stadium for two of Dublin's four main clubs doesn't seem too much to ask, nor would it pose any threat to anyone in the GAA. The six protesting clubs would appear to be motivated entirely by a fear that soccer would establish a greater foothold in the Tallaght area. .
In truth, that happened a long time ago and certainly hasn't been to the GAA's detriment. They own 26 acres of land in Rathcoole, on which it would surely be possible to build a stadium of their own.
The impasse continues, and the protesting clubs must now either back off or carry out their threat to seek a judicial review. The former option would enable the Tallaght Stadium to be completed, probably before the end of 2006. The latter, and much likelier, scenario will delay any further work on the stadium for two years.
Despite suspicions that 'Bull' O'Donoghue's GAA background would cloud his impartiality on the issue, he has acted with appropriate firmness, going so far as to hint that the GAA would be wise not to bite the hand that feeds.
"If the GAA want to seek a judicial review that's their business", the Minister states, "but I would remind them of one thing. Under the Sports Council Programme, since 1998, I have allocated over Eur135m to the GAA. I have recently allocated over Eur1.7m (to three of hte protesting clubs), and I would be prepared obviously to assist them in relation to their development at Rathcoole, but what I won't do is give in to blackmail".
Certainly, we've come a long way from the days when Stasi-styled 'Vigilance Committees' would send spies and informers to monitor attendances at soccer and rugby matches, report any GAA members they happened to spot, and end their careers.
However, many Rovers fans remain convinced that the clubs' behaviour is a textbook example of anti-soccer mean-spiritedness, designed to drive Rovers to financial extinction, and that it has the tacit approval of the GAA itself.
We can only judge them on their words and actions in the months to come. In the meantime, an outbreak of tolerance and generosity (i.e. scrap the judicial review) might not go amiss.
ENDS
Billy Lord
30/03/2006, 9:29 PM
Let's see now . . . What could we fit in the GAA site in Rathcoole? Three Croke Parks, for starters. Oh, but it's going to be the site for an academy, isn't it? Well, Liverpool's academy is regarded as a top-notch facility, possibly the best in Britain. You could put that in Rathcoole about SEVEN times over.
So let's be reasonable here: how about two 40,000-seater stadia, a car park (something Croker hasn't got) for, say, 5,000 cars, and you'd still have room for an academy around three times the size of the one belonging to the current European champions. An average couple of years' amount of grants to the GAA would pay for the lot.
Sure you'd have to give them Tallaght too, the poor buggers. And, after that, every other blade of grass in Ireland, just in case the oul' sahker caught on and Ireland reverted to paganism.
Also: the Dept of Sport haven't said that Tallaght was also for Pat's. They said it should be considered for use by another EL club. Small lies can make a big difference.
A face
30/03/2006, 11:58 PM
Is there anything stopping Rover letting everyone in that area know what is going on, for example can they send fliers to each house in the area explaining factually exactly what is happening, no lies, no mistruths .... just a club informing all its stakeholders what is going on and what is preventing the facility being completed ??
Roverstillidie
31/03/2006, 1:02 AM
Is there anything stopping Rover letting everyone in that area know what is going on, for example can they send fliers to each house in the area explaining factually exactly what is happening, no lies, no mistruths .... just a club informing all its stakeholders what is going on and what is preventing the facility being completed ??
technically its got nothing to do with us, its the grab all association v the deppt of sport.....
He won't. ;)
KOH
Any Rovers fan, actually any eL fan, that gives the GAA money after this is nothing better than a scab.
ConorE
31/03/2006, 7:25 AM
Dirty bitter scummy culchie bast@rds.
I am 100% behind Rovers on this.
paudie
31/03/2006, 8:30 AM
but they are biting the hand that feeds, so i presume they are flexing muscles to get cash for rathcoole. and the dept have stated that they will play ball on this.
ENDS
That's it in a nutshell.
This is the 6 GAA clubs way of ensuring they go to the top of the list for future funding from the Dept.
A possible 2 year delay to the completion of the Tallaght stadium is icing on the cake as far as they're concerned.
I do give credit to O'Donoghue for his statements to date.
listowelceltic
31/03/2006, 8:50 AM
how the hell can any soccer fan step foot inside a gaa ground after this.the gaa are bigots.john o donoghue is a legend
gspain
31/03/2006, 9:04 AM
technically its got nothing to do with us, its the grab all association v the deppt of sport.....
Technically you are right and O'Donoghue has seen through the "broken glass spreaders" efforts to kill rovers however it does not mean you should sit back and not realsie there is a fight here.
BTW I assume the 15 acres the bigots got in Portmarnock free gratis at the same time as the Tallaght decision will be available to Bohs and Shels to play games on. :mad:
Can sopmebody point out the irony that all 6 clubs have their own facilities and in 2 or 3 cases have sufficient land to develop their own stadium in the area. not to mention Rathcoole.
Funnily enough I overheard an Australian (presumably living here) yesterday
trying to explain to another guy the Croke Park situation. He appeared to be a rugby fan as he only mentioned rugby but He had a decent understanding of the situation and was trying to convey the extent of the GAA's bigotry to his friend
monutdfc
31/03/2006, 9:34 AM
The request sounds reasonable, until you bear in mind that the GAA receives government grants in the region of Eur17m every year for the upkeep of stadia which it steadfastly refuses to share with other sporting codes.
Most GAA clubs are thriving very well as it is: nationwide, its clubs have received a whopping Eur135m of public funding since 1998. An official list detailing the distribution of funding for 2005 reveals allocations that range from the modest (Eur20,000 for County Carlow's Fighting Cocks GFC) to the extravagantly lavish (Eur380,000 for St. Bridgid's GAA club in Dublin). In contrast, only two Eircom LEague teams (Bray Wanderers and Cork City) received any funding at all, the latter for refurbishment at Turner's Cross.
I am still trying to understand O'Donoghue's motivation in all of this. Don't forget that this man never sees past the next election. That is all he cares about.
In the Tallaght area, all he wants to do is stem SF's growth. Allowing the GAA into the stadium would be claimed by SF as their success. Keeping them out and FF are the heroes of the Tallaght working class.
Him and FF go around trumpeting this to every taxi-driver and lapsed Rovers fan in Dublin before the next election.
Meanwhile, he meets the 6 southside gaa clubs next week, promises them millions for Rathcoole (this furore has the effect of making this an easier sell politically) and thus cements the gaa vote. Probably, they'll have to drop any judicial review in return, otherwise the matter is still outstanding at election time.
I'm getting sick and tired of reading this genesis report horse sh.te
we play in richmond park (for my money the best LoI ground there is by a mile) we DO NOT want to move to a poxy field in talla with one stand to share with any first division club or the gaa
paudie
31/03/2006, 9:50 AM
we play in richmond park (for my money the best LoI ground there is by a mile)
No offence, wws, but do you use Monopoly money?
BohDiddley
31/03/2006, 10:46 AM
No offence, wws, but do you use Monopoly money?
That's not fair. :D
Incidentally, I would also give credit to O'Donoghue for standing up to greedy bogballers -- it can't have been an easy call given his constituency. But will he get support from his colleagues in Government, or will Tom Parlon want to build SRFC a stadium in Birr?
Jerry The Saint
31/03/2006, 10:49 AM
Well I for one am comfortable with continuing to support the "bigots, glass spreader, bogball muck savages" or whatever you want to call them.:rolleyes:
The sporting organisation that has done most damage to football in this country is the FAI but they're not going to stop me supporting St. Pats and I don't think anyone would say that makes me a "scab". And right now they're trying to force my team into a ground with half a stand and hostile local opposition. 6 GAA clubs in SW Dublin are trying to get access to a 100% public funded municipal stadium - the Government is telling them it's for soccer only. The clubs have lukewarm support at best from GAA Central Council, it's not a return to 'The Ban'.
By some people's logic, there should be a complete boycott of all eircom League games by anyone who disagrees with the actions of Ollie Byrne/Shelbourne over the last number of years.
WeAreRovers
31/03/2006, 10:51 AM
Any Rovers fan, actually any eL fan, that gives the GAA money after this is nothing better than a scab.
Very, very true.
Monutdfc - That would be my reading of the whole situation too.
wws - I hope Pats for Richmond have the good sense to make you their spokesman. ;)
KOH
BohDiddley
31/03/2006, 10:53 AM
Well I for one am comfortable with continuing to support the "bigots, glass spreader, bogball muck savages" or whatever you want to call them.:rolleyes:
The sporting organisation that has done most damage to football in this country is the FAI but they're not going to stop me supporting St. Pats and I don't think anyone would say that makes me a "scab". And right now they're trying to force my team into a ground with half a stand and hostile local opposition. 6 GAA clubs in SW Dublin are trying to get access to a 100% public funded municipal stadium - the Government is telling them it's for soccer only. The clubs have lukewarm support at best from GAA Central Council, it's not a return to 'The Ban'.
By some people's logic, there should be a complete boycott of all eircom League games by anyone who disagrees with the actions of Ollie Byrne/Shelbourne over the last number of years.
Jerry, I have a lot of respect for Pat's fans generally, but that's just twaddle. GAA Central Council (talk about self-aggrandisement!) is doing nothing to stop this ignorance.
Dodge
31/03/2006, 10:57 AM
Personally speaking I hope the Gaa get full control of tallaght. Whatever stops Pats going there is fine with me.
Once thats sorted I'll go back to hating them.
I'm deadly serious - unfortunately there are many here among you who feel that some version the camp nou is needed to accomodate your prestigious LoI club. I don't share the delusion. A compact ground that lends itself to natural acoustics and atmosphere (Richmond Park is in a riverside 'dip' and is enclosed in a natural way that the "TALLA STANDIUM" never will be - see how many flock out to talla once they spend an afternoon freezing their nuts off with no natural cover - it wont hapen folks). Contrast the scenes on the camac to when we scored v shels to the sscenes at turners cross with their open stand b0ll0x - the only dacent terracing in the LoI and the reason why richmond is the best LoI ground by miles
now I have ended this debate and referenced Jimi Hendrix referencing Bob Dylan IN THE PROCESS so CHECK FACKING MATE!
GAA Central Council (talk about self-aggrandisement!) is doing nothing to stop this ignorance.
They're supporting the clubs, not simply ignoring it. Like I said, scabs.
WeAreRovers
31/03/2006, 11:33 AM
I'm deadly serious - unfortunately there are many here among you who feel that some version the camp nou is needed to accomodate your prestigious LoI club. I don't share the delusion.
Well we certainly don't share that delusion. You may not be aware of it but we've had no ground - Camp Nou rubbish or Richmond Park brilliance - so any aul field will do us.
And people will come to Tallaght to see us play, despite the fact that you think it's crap. Quite simply, we are Rovers, you on the other hand are St Patrick's Athletic. Not a lot anyone can do about that. ;)
KOH
Sorry this is not acceptable that you want to play in a aul field ! Please you need some sort of Facilities to play in the Eircom League in this modern day and age !
My sarcasm meter hasn't registered anything - it must be another case of a Slig missing the point/joke...;)
Well we certainly don't share that delusion. You may not be aware of it but we've had no ground - Camp Nou rubbish or Richmond Park brilliance - so any aul field will do us.
And people will come to Tallaght to see us play, despite the fact that you think it's crap. Quite simply, we are Rovers, you on the other hand are St Patrick's Athletic. Not a lot anyone can do about that. ;)
KOH
i was speaking in scatter gun generalities to ram home a point mainly to that cork fan and someone else that ive lost track of....actually nobody mentioned that they needed a nou camp for their club but once again i was tarring everybody with my own prejudices because ive no time for the opinions of anyone else
mb tolerance at its finest,TODAY MATTHEW I AM MICHAEL MCDOWELL!
....and we're in the Premier...
BohDiddley
31/03/2006, 12:05 PM
someone else that ive lost track of....
Typical Pat's defence...;)
WeAreRovers
31/03/2006, 12:06 PM
i was speaking in scatter gun generalities to ram home a point mainly to that cork fan and someone else that ive lost track of....actually nobody mentioned that they needed a nou camp for their club but once again i was tarring everybody with my own prejudices because ive no time for the opinions of anyone else
mb tolerance at its finest,TODAY MATTHEW I AM MICHAEL MCDOWELL!
:eek:
Can we have the old wws back please?
Stop press - I've just noticed the puerile, "...and we're in the Premier", my dad's bigger than your dad, post. Normal service is resumed.
KOH
I agree with calls to boycott the GAA over this.
The FAI & football fans have never complained about the GAA getting funding for Croke park as the FAI now getting funding for Lansdowne Road.
AFAIK this is like the FAI getting funding for Tallaght, GAA getting funding for other local pitches & the GAA also wanting to use the FAI ground in Tallaght.
Small minded bitterness & jealousy!
:(
paudie
31/03/2006, 12:32 PM
I'm deadly serious - unfortunately there are many here among you who feel that some version the camp nou is needed to accomodate your prestigious LoI club. I don't share the delusion. A compact ground that lends itself to natural acoustics and atmosphere (Richmond Park is in a riverside 'dip' and is enclosed in a natural way that the "TALLA STANDIUM" never will be - see how many flock out to talla once they spend an afternoon freezing their nuts off with no natural cover - it wont hapen folks). Contrast the scenes on the camac to when we scored v shels to the sscenes at turners cross with their open stand b0ll0x - the only dacent terracing in the LoI and the reason why richmond is the best LoI ground by miles
now I have ended this debate and referenced Jimi Hendrix referencing Bob Dylan IN THE PROCESS so CHECK FACKING MATE!
Richmond Park is ok but The Shed is ..... a shed and that mud bank behind the other goal has been a blight on my enjoyment of watching EL highlights for years.
My signature will have to do for rock god references:cool:
paudie
31/03/2006, 12:42 PM
I agree with calls to boycott the GAA over this.
Small minded bitterness & jealousy!
:(
Not small minded at all. Reasonably well thought out tactic by the GAA.
1. Create a big fuss about Tallaght stadium by threatening a judicial review and put the 6 clubs at the top of the queue for future funding.
The Dept is meeting the clubs next week. Expect them to bring a shopping list in exchange for not going ahead with the review.
2. If they go ahead with the review it will cause further delays to Rovers coming to Tallaght.
3. No matter what happens they still have the land bank at Rathcoole.
The only possible problem would be if their ownership of the land at Rathcoole was highlighted, thereby exposing that their interest in Tallaght stadium is only a smokescreen.
Don't agree with boycotts either. I'm not missing a Munster final becasue of some langers in Dublin GAA.
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