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Have to say derry played well and for a neutral have to say probably should have won. One negative point about the match was the referee who give some shocking decisions mostly in derry's favour.
Schumi
21/02/2006, 1:26 PM
I thought the ref was letting Linfield away with a lot! :)
thejollyrodger
21/02/2006, 7:26 PM
I thought there would be more at the game last night. Glens werent up for much. The gulf in ability and fitness was clear for all to see. We could have went all to score more goals.
a few good chants..
goal 1 : your not singing anymore
goal 2 : your sh1te and you know you are :P
etc
MrJoeSoap
21/02/2006, 7:52 PM
Brief highlights:
Group 1:
Portadown v Cork (http://files.filefront.com/Round_1___Group_1___Portadown_vs_Corkwmv/;4788927;;/fileinfo.html)
Drogheda v Dungannon (http://files.filefront.com/Round_1___Group_1___Drogheda_vs_Dungannonwmv/;4788929;;/fileinfo.html)
Group 2:
Shelbourne v Glentoran (http://files.filefront.com/Round_1___Group_2___Shelbourne/;4789451;;/fileinfo.html)
Linfield v Derry (http://files.filefront.com/Round_1___Group_2___Linfield_v/;4789511;;/fileinfo.html)
pineapple stu
21/02/2006, 9:16 PM
a few good chants..
goal 1 : your not singing anymore
goal 2 : your sh1te and you know you are :P
etc
Yep, quality chants there. Never heard either of them before.
Anyone at the games/who saw them know why the eL teams did so well this time out? I think the only cross-border away win last year was the final, and many of the games were well-balanced. So far this time, though, we have the biggest win of the campaign, at least one away game the eL should have won and are four games unbeaten against the IL (compare to last season, when Longford lost away to Glens and Linfield and Portadown beat Cork and drew in Tolka, I think). Granted, we're still waiting on an away win, but the eL seem to have acquitted themselves far better this time around. Is it better planning, a hiccup from the IL teams or evidence last season was a hiccup from the eL teams?
MrJoeSoap
21/02/2006, 11:52 PM
Yep, quality chants there. Never heard either of them before.
They were quite poor examples I'll admit. Shels did have the "Red and White Army" chant in full voice for at least a half hour though, and there was a great atmosphere despite a slightly poor turnout.
CollegeTillIDie
22/02/2006, 7:08 AM
The Linfield- Derry game was good. Noel Bailie was superb for the Blues at the back deserved the man of the match award.The Blues two strikers looked very sharp during the game. But looking at the results it seems Linfield are a class above the rest of the IL teams and provide the Wee North's best chance of winning the Trophy again!
Raheny Red
22/02/2006, 9:34 AM
Yes, they were poor examples alright, very poor :rolleyes:
Anyway chant of the night had to be;
"Pre-season training, it's only pre-season training" :p :cool:
gspain
22/02/2006, 3:26 PM
Yep, quality chants there. Never heard either of them before.
Anyone at the games/who saw them know why the eL teams did so well this time out? I think the only cross-border away win last year was the final, and many of the games were well-balanced. So far this time, though, we have the biggest win of the campaign, at least one away game the eL should have won and are four games unbeaten against the IL (compare to last season, when Longford lost away to Glens and Linfield and Portadown beat Cork and drew in Tolka, I think). Granted, we're still waiting on an away win, but the eL seem to have acquitted themselves far better this time around. Is it better planning, a hiccup from the IL teams or evidence last season was a hiccup from the eL teams?
Didn't Shels win at Portadown and Portadown in Cork?
Our clubs are fulltime which certainly helps. Furthermore the longer we continue the better our fitness levels will be. we will have players then who have always been in fulltime training and thus are better conditioned.
Shels looked faster, fitter and far more skilful on Monday night.
However I would be careful here as the IL clubs all played on Saturdayand playing twice in 48 hours is tough going especially for part time players.
I think last season el clubs underestimated the northen teams. probably won't happen again
higgins
22/02/2006, 5:30 PM
I dont think Shels underestimated them really.. Should have won the first game in Tolka against Portadown but didnt as it ended 3-3. Then we went up to Portadown and should have won by a couple with ryan and a few others all missing easy chances.
Then we played Linfield and with a few players out we just fell apart and had a bad day out. Its been the only game of 6 now in just over a season where shels looked the weaker side.
We showed in the champions League games what we can do but then were told it was down to fitness and they were only pre season. then we play them in our pre season and are told its because they are tired and in-season ..
The bottom line is that Glentoran are a joke of a side who look very very badly organised and anyone but a poor Longford could have beaten them last season. They will finish bottom of the group and I feel the home draw for Linfield leaves them chasing Shels and Derry already but they may well finish 2nd. Swifts and Portadown will finish in the bottom two of their group from what I've seen.
There is a gap and just because the IL teams got some good results last season means nothing.
Anyone care to do out the full won drawn lost record to date?
Shels in the past 12 months have played 6 and won 4 drawn 1 and lost 1
gspain
22/02/2006, 5:42 PM
Then we played Linfield and with a few players out we just fell apart and had a bad day out. Its been the only game of 6 now in just over a season where shels looked the weaker side.
We showed in the champions League games what we can do but then were told it was down to fitness and they were only pre season. then we play them in our pre season and are told its because they are tired and in-season ..
The bottom line is that Glentoran are a joke of a side who look very very badly organised and anyone but a poor Longford could have beaten them last season. They will finish bottom of the group and I feel the home draw for Linfield leaves them chasing Shels and Derry already but they may well finish 2nd. Swifts and Portadown will finish in the bottom two of their group from what I've seen.
There is a gap and just because the IL teams got some good results last season means nothing.
I think you are way underestimating Glentoran. Last season they were champions of the IL.
Agreed Shels were different class on Monday but I thought Shels played very very well and albeit could (maybe should) have had 6. Glens appear to have gone backwards this season but I wouldn't be that cocky going to the Oval.
This group has a long way to go yet
thejollyrodger
22/02/2006, 5:59 PM
i think shels are firing on all cylinders and are going to do really well this season. The team look well rested and played well. We should do well in the Setanta , Inter To To and the league !
I thought there would be more people at the Glens game and I thought there would be far more in the media about it. Last year was understandable since it was the first year with the threat of violance hanging over it.
It looks like a EL team is going to win it this year in fairness
Portadown played in the league last friday so no advantage there plus the long travel would disadvantage City too.
I think City looked much sharper than last seasons fixture & Portadown really only created chances from poor mistakes from unfit keeper & uncharacteristic fullback.
Risteard
22/02/2006, 9:40 PM
Anyone care to do out the full won drawn lost record to date?
Shels in the past 12 months have played 6 and won 4 drawn 1 and lost 1
Nah, just Shels
Played 6, won 3, drew1, lost2
higgins
23/02/2006, 4:50 PM
Agreed Shels were different class on Monday but I thought Shels played very very well and albeit could (maybe should) have had 6. Glens appear to have gone backwards this season but I wouldn't be that cocky going to the Oval.
So they have gone backwards this season and were lucky to only get beaten 2-1 last year by shels in the Oval ?
I think its going ot be another win in the Oval this year. Nothing too easy but cant see anything other then a shels win as Glentoran will be out of it by that stage probably.
Nah, just Shels
Played 6, won 3, drew1, lost2
We beat
Portadown away
Glentoran home
Glentoran away
Glentoran home
we drew
Portadown home
we lost
Linfield home
4 wins 1 draw and 1 defeat
Risteard
23/02/2006, 11:59 PM
Sorry Higgins.
Wrongly assumed you were staying on topic and talking about the Setanta Cup instead of your own concoction of fixtures with the norn'iron' crew. :)
pineapple stu
24/02/2006, 12:34 PM
Didn't Shels win at Portadown and Portadown in Cork?
My mistake...:o
Glentoran are going through a rocky patch but by the time shels go to the Oval, Millar will have the Glens lined out and playing the way he wants them.
higgins
24/02/2006, 3:33 PM
Or by the time you face Shels you could be bottom of the group with little hope to finish 2nd ?
Sorry about adding the Champions League games but I feel they count in the debate about which league is stronger. Im sure after this season ends the stats will be in favour of the EL.
Is there still talk of getting a scottish team or two involved? That would really be nice and would increase the money invoved.
Risteard
24/02/2006, 5:16 PM
I'd rather 4 Welsh teams, although 4 groups of 4, each from different countries would be nice.
Celtic and Rangers would dominate and ruin the competition.
At the same time, i think we should keep it to us on the island as the whole idea is that it's specifically an All-Ireland competition.
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