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The Legend
14/02/2006, 12:29 AM
Anyone else besides be more than a little irritated with MON if he takes the England or Newcastle job, leaving us with Stuanton....:(
i thought he was taking time off to be with his wife.:confused:
livehead1
14/02/2006, 12:43 AM
no1 knows the full story,,,,,dont even know if he was approached by fai etc...
Superhoops
14/02/2006, 7:42 AM
Anyone else besides be more than a little irritated with MON if he takes the England or Newcastle job, leaving us with Stuanton....:(
i thought he was taking time off to be with his wife.:confused:
No! I posted this in October last year.
.....If Martin O'Neill was to take an international job, is it not likely to be England rather than us.....
Martin O'Neill was never going to be Ireland manager because:
1. we are a third rate international team
2. O'Neill's ambitions are for success which is not going to be achieved with us
3. we could not afford him and even if we could, read 1 and 2.
Hibs4Ever
14/02/2006, 7:59 AM
Said it from the start on this website, O'Neill would never be our manager, he's British, England or Northern Ireland would be his dream international job. We are much better off with Staunton, at least he's Irish
Anyway, it'll be fun to watch Engerland play the hoof it up, long ball game under O'Neill:D
Krstic
14/02/2006, 10:06 AM
If he takes the England job, he can then wear the medals he received from the queen on his International blazer.
And if the unthinkable were to happen, like England winning a tournament. We can always say they needed a Derry Man to do it.:eek: ;)
Dassa
14/02/2006, 10:20 AM
undecided about MoN taking the England job. always dreamed he would manage us,but as mentioned he is a very ambitous manager. Personally also about the hoofing football. I know I wouldnt care as long as we were winning something.
NeilMcD
14/02/2006, 10:33 AM
He does not owes us anything. He has not taken the England job so its all speculation.
Junior
14/02/2006, 12:46 PM
Said it from the start on this website, O'Neill would never be our manager, he's British, England or Northern Ireland would be his dream international job. We are much better off with Staunton, at least he's Irish
Anyway, it'll be fun to watch Engerland play the hoof it up, long ball game under O'Neill:D
How do you know he's British? And how do you know England or NI would be his dream job?
livehead1
14/02/2006, 12:56 PM
Said it from the start on this website, O'Neill would never be our manager, he's British, England or Northern Ireland would be his dream international job. We are much better off with Staunton, at least he's Irish
Anyway, it'll be fun to watch Engerland play the hoof it up, long ball game under O'Neill:D
read posts like that from you before, your just a b0llox
paul_oshea
14/02/2006, 1:17 PM
hibs how is he british??
do you know your geography??
Northern ireland is part of the uk not great britain
LOL @ the MON for ireland thing
Stuttgart88
14/02/2006, 1:35 PM
Patrick Barclay, a Scotsman, wrote the following in the Sunday Telegraph at the weekend, which prompted my post on O'Neill on another thread (in World Football):
O'Neill, however intelligent, witty, charming and able - I have always found him among the most attractive characters in the game - is a Northern Irishman. I think the England manager should be English, just as Brazil's manager is Brazilian, Italy's Italian and so on.
Meanwhile the likes of [the FA's] Richards behave as if they were in charge of a club, star-gazing at O'Neill and pretending he is almost English.
He is not. A footballer cannot be almost English any more than a woman can be half-pregnant and the same is true - morally, if not under the regulations - of managers. Sir Alex Ferguson made that pithily clear when, asked if he would manage England, he replied: "I wouldnae betray my country.'' It is less of a joke in the case of O'Neill, who, though he has long been happily integrated into English life after a republican upbringing in County Londonderry, thought twice before accepting an MBE in 1982. What he would think of the Ulster loyalist anthems belted out by some of England's least edifying supporters is hard to imagine. And how a wider body of the support would react when they came to terms with the likelihood that O'Neill would want as his right-hand man the former Scotland winger John Robertson, who goes everywhere with him, is another imponderable.
Also, does every thread on this board have to be polluted by those intent on just winding people up?
paul_oshea
14/02/2006, 1:55 PM
ya exactly, those that cant create constructive discussions/points, but just post a one liner stupid ignorant sentence because they are incapable of doing anything else.
such as most of the posts above.
very good piece stutts, thanks for that.
Hibs4Ever
14/02/2006, 2:33 PM
read posts like that from you before, your just a b0llox
Why??? Watch the name calling and stop acting the hard man behind a keyboard. I've seen people banned for less:rolleyes:
Hibs4Ever
14/02/2006, 2:33 PM
hibs how is he british??
do you know your geography??
Northern ireland is part of the uk not great britain
Maybe his British passport:D :D
You celtic lads have to accept it, he didn't want to manage Ireland because it didn't feel right for him, he has NO connection with us WHATSOEVER now he's making public he wants to manage England
NeilMcD
14/02/2006, 2:48 PM
Is there any quotes from Martin O Neill to suggest
A) he did nor did not want to manage the Republic of Ireland
B) he did or did not want to manage England.
I dont think there is which suggests that this is all speculation for the moment.
Hibs4Ever
14/02/2006, 2:53 PM
Is there any quotes from Martin O Neill to suggest
A) he did nor did not want to manage the Republic of Ireland
B) he did or did not want to manage England.
I dont think there is which suggests that this is all speculation for the moment.
A) The fact he turned it down
B) The fact his agent says he is and has let the FA know he is.
The problem here is that it seems forbidden to have an opinion against him because he managed celtic
NeilMcD
14/02/2006, 3:02 PM
A) Where are the facts that he turned it down as in do u have quotes to back this up and secondly maybe he turned it down (thats if he did) for personal reasons rather than professional ones.
B) Again could you provide quotes on this one also/
NeilMcD
14/02/2006, 3:04 PM
Also Martin O Neill has proven to be a very good manager at a few different clubs. I woud not be personally fond of the brand of football that his teams play but he is a very very good manager. I dont think his managing Celtic makes him beyond criticism as there are many people who post on this forum that are not too fond of Celtic Football Club.
klein4
14/02/2006, 3:10 PM
it isnt important what martin o neill does or doesnt do. what is important is I said Paul Le Guen would be new rangers manager and was laughed at by geysir....methinks I will be proved right. :D
Junior
14/02/2006, 3:10 PM
Maybe his British passport:D :D
You celtic lads have to accept it, he didn't want to manage Ireland because it didn't feel right for him, he has NO connection with us WHATSOEVER now he's making public he wants to manage England
And you know he's a British Passport holder do you?
Who knows why MON didn't want to manage us, I don't, and Im fairly certain you don't. Perhaps it was the personal reasons that have been well documented (I think its the anti-celtic lads who have to have a look at their reasoning in this thread)
To say he has no connection with us whatsoever is naive to say the least. He grew up as a Nationalist in the North - there is a connection there whether you like it or not.
Maybe his dream international job is England, more likely to be NI but perhaps its Brazil?
Some of your posts are plain trolling - no need for it really.
Hibs4Ever
14/02/2006, 3:14 PM
And you know he's a British Passport holder do you?
Who knows why MON didn't want to manage us, I don't, and Im fairly certain you don't. Perhaps it was the personal reasons that have been well documented (I think its the anti-celtic lads who have to have a look at their reasoning in this thread)
To say he has no connection with us whatsoever is naive to say the least. He grew up as a Nationalist in the North - there is a connection there whether you like it or not.
Maybe his dream international job is England, more likely to be NI but perhaps its Brazil?
Some of your posts are plain trolling - no need for it really.
So to actually have an opinion AGAINST martin o'neill is "trolling" please explain how?
NeilMcD
14/02/2006, 3:16 PM
Hibs are you gong to provide the proof that you have that Martin O Neill turned down the Ireland job and is interested in the England Job. What Junior is saying is that posting unfounded posts regarding Martin O Neill is a form of trolling. he did not say posting anything against Martin O Neill is trolling.
Stuttgart88
14/02/2006, 3:16 PM
So to actually have an opinion AGAINST martin o'neill is "trolling" please explain how?
I think he just did. Read his post again.
livehead1
14/02/2006, 3:16 PM
A) The fact he turned it down
B) The fact his agent says he is and has let the FA know he is.
The problem here is that it seems forbidden to have an opinion against him because he managed celtic
find us the quotes then....funnily enough i don't think i'll be banned for my comments about you as i think that the majority of people posting here seems to agree with my summary of you,
.....nothing personal though ;) 'mate'.
[QUOTE=Junior]
Maybe his dream international job is England, more likely to be NI but perhaps its Brazil?
[QUOTE]
remember reading before that he hoped at some stage to manage NI, and also heard a rumour that he was possibly prepared to do it on PT basis before sanchez took over.
MoN isnt going to take a job on the basis of affiliation to anywhere. Hes to smart for that he will take a job on the basis of whats right for him and his family both workwise and financially. Thats why I could never see him taking the ROI job this time or NI in the considerable future.
Hibs4Ever
14/02/2006, 3:26 PM
This is my uptake of turning it down, he told them before he was even offered it that he wasn't interested:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4380094.stm
Still looking for the link to were I read O'Neills agent saying he's interested in England job, this link show one of the reasons he's favourite is because he's British:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4380094.stm
Here we are, this article says O'Neill wants to talk to both England and Newcastle, and again lets us know he's British
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/sport/2006/02/14/sfnwin14.xml
klein4
14/02/2006, 3:26 PM
for fecks sake lads.
hibs4ever has always said martin o neill wouldnt take the irish job cause he has no affiliation with the irish team. he didnt take the irish job and its well documented that they put out feelers for him and were waiting on a response but didnt get one and approached staunton. now he is heavily linked with english job on every website and newspaper.so its not trolling(. gloating maybe...)which is a ****in stupid allegation anyway thrown out by people anytime they allow themselves to get drawn into an argument they dont want to be in.
NeilMcD
14/02/2006, 3:29 PM
This is my uptake of turning it down, he told them before he was even offered it that he wasn't interested:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4380094.stm
Still looking for the link to were I read O'Neills agent saying he's interested in England job, this link show one of the reasons he's favourite is because he's British:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4380094.stm
As I said it was for personal reasons, there is nothing to say that he will not take in the future. Indeed there is nothilng to say that he will take it. We dont know. We dont know if he has more affinity to Ireland or to England. However as Junior said before it would be safe to say that he has more affinity to the Republic of Ireland but that is just guess work. And has been said alread maybe he would look at these things in a purely professional fashion and see that the England job has more career prospects and is better paid. However there is no evidence to suggest this.
Hibs4Ever
14/02/2006, 3:34 PM
find us the quotes then....funnily enough i don't think i'll be banned for my comments about you as i think that the majority of people posting here seems to agree with my summary of you,
.....nothing personal though 'mate'.
Can you imagine the sleepless nights I'm gonna have now, knowing a little girl on foot.ie pm's other members looking for opinions on people:(
I assume this is how you know the majority of people here think I'm a b0ll0x;) :D
NeilMcD
14/02/2006, 3:45 PM
Hey I never got that pm. Whats up Livehead.
klein4
14/02/2006, 3:54 PM
can we please talk about the football!!!!!!!!:mad:
paul_oshea
14/02/2006, 4:05 PM
You celtic lads have to accept it, he didn't want to manage Ireland because it didn't feel right for him, he has NO connection with us WHATSOEVER now he's making public he wants to manage England
im not a celtic fan, i even have a hibs jersey, so what the hell is your point/??
tricky_colour
14/02/2006, 4:58 PM
The England Job would be quite convieniient for him as he lives
in Berkshire (like Terry Wogan I bebieve), so not much travelling involved.
youngirish
14/02/2006, 5:03 PM
F**k MON. He can take the England job if he wants. I hope he plays Sutton and Heskey up front for them, Thompson on the left and Steve Guppy on the right. That'll get them places.
The Irish job was his for the taking whaetever anyone on this forum says (I'm sure if he had shown an interest he might have just edged out that world renowned footballing tactical genius Stevie Staunton) and he didn't go for it. I don't know his reasons (nor does anyone else) nor do I care but if he did take the England job I'd hold no additional biased towards him or his team. I'll still as always hope they get beaten every match.
Junior
14/02/2006, 5:28 PM
So to actually have an opinion AGAINST martin o'neill is "trolling" please explain how?
Thats not what I said.
Said it from the start on this website, O'Neill would never be our manager, he's British, England or Northern Ireland would be his dream international job. We are much better off with Staunton, at least he's Irish
Anyway, it'll be fun to watch Engerland play the hoof it up, long ball game under O'Neill
Maybe his British passport
You celtic lads have to accept it, he didn't want to manage Ireland because it didn't feel right for him, he has NO connection with us WHATSOEVER now he's making public he wants to manage England
Maybe Im just too touchy, maybe I have too much experience of your anti Celtic bias, maybe posts like this are just based on pure speculation that you haven't been able to back up and IMO you make to purely to wind people up.
I don't think MON was without fault, far from it, in fact some of his football was pretty boring to watch last year.
But hey, so was some of Jack Charltons and what was his connection with Ireland again?
Superhoops
14/02/2006, 5:46 PM
F**k MON. He can take the England job if he wants. I hope he plays Sutton and Heskey up front for them, Thompson on the left and Steve Guppy on the right. That'll get them places.
The Irish job was his for the taking whaetever anyone on this forum says (I'm sure if he had shown an interest he might have just edged out that world renowned footballing tactical genius Stevie Staunton) and he didn't go for it. I don't know his reasons (nor does anyone else) nor do I care but if he did take the England job I'd hold no additional biased towards him or his team. I'll still as always hope they get beaten every match.
I think we do!
Martin O'Neill was never going to be Ireland manager because:
1. we are a third rate international team
2. O'Neill's ambitions are for success which is not going to be achieved with us
3. we could not afford him and even if we could, read 1 and 2.
You had it right when you said it was there for the taking if he wanted it. He didn't. Let's move on!
Moderator Warning: I will the leave the MON British comments go for now as don't have time to admin this. Comments clear provocation & not on topic. Anymore comments will be deleted & bans given out.
Superhoops
14/02/2006, 10:49 PM
Isn't this very similar to [url]....As for MO'N, being a long-time Celtic fan wish him well for the future. Though if it ends up being the 'Ingles' or ManUre, let's hope he f*cks them up big time.....
If that is wishing him well for the future, I dread to think what you would hope for if you were not wishing him well!!!:eek:
Plastic Paddy
15/02/2006, 6:22 AM
funnily enough i don't think i'll be banned for my comments about you as i think that the majority of people posting here seems to agree with my summary of you
No, but you've come mighty close. Try and keep a lid on those personal comments please. Attack the posts - goodness knows there's enough to aim at - and not the poster.
I assume this is how you know the majority of people here think I'm a b0ll0x;) :D
No, we can work that out from the stuff you post; your "contributions" to this thread provide a classic example. It's not too difficult.
:ball: PP
Hibs4Ever
16/02/2006, 6:39 AM
No, but you've come mighty close. Try and keep a lid on those personal comments please. Attack the posts - goodness knows there's enough to aim at - and not the poster.
No, we can work that out from the stuff you post; your "contributions" to this thread provide a classic example. It's not too difficult.
:ball: PP
WHY??? Because I have an opinion against an ex celtic manager???
Show me which comments I made prove your point! Apart from the ones that show I don't support Martin O'Neill, because thats an opinion I'm entitled to without celtic fans starting their name calling antics.
The fact is people here are going mad because I'm not a supporter of MON.
I just stated my opinions, I said MONTHS ago he wouldn't be Irish manager and got slated then, he isn't Irish manager:rolleyes:
I said he has NO connections with the Rep. of Ireland. He hasn't:rolleyes: (managing celtic is nothing to do with Rep of Ireland)
I said he is a British citizan, media reports I have shown above back me up on this (you are what you passport is. FACT)
eirebhoy
16/02/2006, 8:04 AM
You said he was British therefore England would be his dream job. Don't be ridiculous. He's as British as someone like Phil Coulter or Neil Lennon (sorry, just came to my head :)), whatever it says on his passport.
Jerry The Saint
16/02/2006, 8:37 AM
You said he was British therefore England would be his dream job. Don't be ridiculous. He's as British as someone like Phil Coulter...
The same Phil Coulter who wrote England's 1970 World Cup Song 'Back Home'? He has NO connections with the Rep. of Ireland. He hasn't (writing 'Ireland's Call' is nothing to do with Rep of Ireland).
People are going mad because I'm not a supporter of Phil Coulter.:mad:
klein4
16/02/2006, 8:43 AM
so you are sayin by helping the careers of people who go on to represent this country in Eurovision he isnt Irish?????????? You couldnt get MORE Irish than Phil Coulter!The only person on this board who is mad is you with statements like that..and Irelands Call is helping to mend bridges all over this country everytime our great rugby team lines up to play. you sir are an idiot!
Jerry The Saint
16/02/2006, 10:52 AM
so you are sayin by helping the careers of people who go on to represent this country in Eurovision he isnt Irish?????????? You couldnt get MORE Irish than Phil Coulter!The only person on this board who is mad is you with statements like that..and Irelands Call is helping to mend bridges all over this country everytime our great rugby team lines up to play. you sir are an idiot!
WHY??? Because I have an opinion against a popular Bray-based singer-songwriter!
I just stated my opinions, I said MONTHS ago that Ireland's Call is a rubbish song and got slated then, it's still a rubbish song.:rolleyes:
;)
Donal81
16/02/2006, 2:22 PM
Lads, this site can get awfully dull at times but surely not so dull that we're stuck debating the merits of Phil Coulter? Let's end this discussion now, please.
Roverstillidie
16/02/2006, 7:04 PM
WHY??? Because I have an opinion against an ex celtic manager???
Show me which comments I made prove your point! Apart from the ones that show I don't support Martin O'Neill, because thats an opinion I'm entitled to without celtic fans starting their name calling antics.
The fact is people here are going mad because I'm not a supporter of MON.
I just stated my opinions, I said MONTHS ago he wouldn't be Irish manager and got slated then, he isn't Irish manager:rolleyes:
I said he has NO connections with the Rep. of Ireland. He hasn't:rolleyes: (managing celtic is nothing to do with Rep of Ireland)
I said he is a British citizan, media reports I have shown above back me up on this (you are what you passport is. FACT)
will people for fu.cks sake ignore him. he is clearly just throwing inane garbage out there to get a reaction.
we ALL knew he wouldnt be the next irish manager, that does not make him an englishman.
he is talking through his sh.itepipe, the more people who question it, the madder he thinks he is
Hibs4Ever
17/02/2006, 6:45 AM
will people for fu.cks sake ignore him. he is clearly just throwing inane garbage out there to get a reaction.
we ALL knew he wouldnt be the next irish manager, that does not make him an englishman.
he is talking through his sh.itepipe, the more people who question it, the madder he thinks he is
Who said he was an Englishman???????? Please show us where this is said! Otherwise stop the muppet talk;)
youngirish
17/02/2006, 12:18 PM
Ireland's call is a desperate anthem it doesn't mend bridges it burns them cause it makes people bitter and twisted that they can't listen to Amhrán na bhFiann and have to listen to that utter sh**e instead.
It's Phil Coulter that's the bo**ox.
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