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the 12 th man
13/02/2006, 5:05 PM
I've backed Adriano @ 12/1 on Betdaq.I know its a bit early but you get better odds if you do it early.

gustavo
13/02/2006, 8:13 PM
thats a good price!
what wer the odds for podlowski and rooney?

the 12 th man
14/02/2006, 6:41 AM
thats a good price!
what wer the odds for podlowski and rooney?

Podlowski @ 25/1 & Rooney @ 14/1 on Paddy Powers.You can get 16/1 Rooney for small money on Betdaq.

joeSoap
14/02/2006, 8:28 AM
Odds here (http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=show_type_by_main_market&category=SOCCER&ev_class_id=140&id=6575).

I fancy Van Nistelrooy myself. Totti great value @ 40/1.

finlma
14/02/2006, 9:06 AM
I fancy Adriano myself.
I got Milan Baros at the Euro 04 at 50/1 - best win I've ever had.

londonirish17
15/02/2006, 10:42 AM
Would go for Lukas Podolski.
Great stricker, plenty of skills and still only 20. Always in the starting 11.
Many clubs (Real, Bayern,...) would like to see him in their squad...

superfrank
15/02/2006, 10:45 AM
Would go for Lukas Podolski.
Great stricker, plenty of skills and still only 20. Always in the starting 11.
Many clubs (Real, Bayern,...) would like to see him in their squad...
If Koln go down he might just leave....

I'd say Adriano, Baros, Shevchenko, Henry or Cisse (depending how France play).

londonirish17
15/02/2006, 10:57 AM
If Koln go down he might just leave....

I'd say Adriano, Baros, Shevchenko, Henry or Cisse (depending how France play).


Yeah agree but I think that he might leave anyway... Money, trophies...

superfrank
15/02/2006, 11:03 AM
Yeah agree but I think that he might leave anyway... Money, trophies...
Koln are a big club. They get somewhere around 40,000 a week and for a local lad who is captain there at his age, I really think it'd take alot to make him leave.

After all, when they were in the Bundesliga 2 he still got called up to the German senior squad so that's no reason to move to a bigger club.

tetsujin1979
15/02/2006, 11:19 AM
I'd reckon Larsson is worth a punt too, going to be in top shape after not getting played much for Barcelona, this World Cup should be his last too

londonirish17
15/02/2006, 12:38 PM
Koln are a big club. They get somewhere around 40,000 a week and for a local lad who is captain there at his age, I really think it'd take alot to make him leave.

After all, when they were in the Bundesliga 2 he still got called up to the German senior squad so that's no reason to move to a bigger club.


I do hope that you are right but if Cologne do go down (which I believe), a couple of players will leave and I fear he won't see any prospect of staying there.
1 FCK is a big club with a large supporter base in an outside Germany but unfortunately the club has been badly managed since they first were relegated to the 2nd Bundesliga

gustavo
15/02/2006, 1:06 PM
I dont relaly think Adriano is that good of a shout really as he isnt guaranteed a place AFAIK Brazil play with one striker up now and Ronaldo seems to have that nailed down

the 12 th man
15/02/2006, 1:45 PM
I dont relaly think Adriano is that good of a shout really as he isnt guaranteed a place AFAIK Brazil play with one striker up now and Ronaldo seems to have that nailed down


:eek: :eek: :D

padzer
17/02/2006, 9:24 AM
I think Luca Toni has to be a great bet at 22/1.

He already has 22 league goals this season for Fiorentina and should start for Italy.

Risteard
17/02/2006, 12:13 PM
Would go for Lukas Podolski.
Great stricker, plenty of skills and still only 20. Always in the starting 11.
Many clubs (Real, Bayern,...) would like to see him in their squad...

I'd been thinking of putting money on Kuranyi.
Does he not start for them?

Risteard
17/02/2006, 12:18 PM
Gilardinho and Kuranyi look best value there.
http://www.oddschecker.com/betting/mode/o/card/worldcup-worldcup/odds/1536389x/sid/10062
Although i do think it'll be Ronaldo or Ronaldinho.

Longshots ----- Rebrov at 125-1 could put 4 or 5 past Tunisia and the Saudis
Nedved 100-1 Past his best but penalty and free kick taker.

Dodge
17/02/2006, 12:59 PM
David Villa for spain, and Luca Toni for Italy. I backed Ronaldo @16/1 last time out :D

Risteard
17/02/2006, 2:07 PM
Is it not Torres and Raul up front with Villa, Tristan and Reyes on bench?
+ Vieri and Gilardinho.
Is Luca Toni top scorer in Serie A still?

Dodge
17/02/2006, 2:25 PM
Loads of time to go and Villa os the form man...

Block G Raptor
17/02/2006, 2:28 PM
got 50/1 England to win it and rooney top scorer straight after they got knocked out of euro 2004
It's a bet I dont mind losing but if it happens the €1000 will help to soften the blow

De Town
17/02/2006, 11:10 PM
Is Luca Toni top scorer in Serie A still?
Yep, by 6 or 7 goals IIRC. He's on 22 I think.

Soko
18/02/2006, 6:48 PM
Backed Ronaldo last time out @ 16/1 on his own then I doubled him as top scorer and Brazil to win it out at 40/1. Nice wad of cash after that one.



I dont fancy Adriano, too many goals going to be spread around that team for one guy to stick out.Crespo is playing pretty well these days @ 18/1.

Poor Student
19/02/2006, 3:48 PM
Zurawski off Poland might be a good outside bet. 10 in his last 8 for Celtic including four goals today. A very crisp finisher.

brine3
19/02/2006, 6:55 PM
i'd have to go for Luca Toni as well myself

the bookies are offering good odds on him because italy are usually low scoring, but they are managed by Lippi this time around, who is way more attacking minded than Trap, Zoff or Cesare Maldini were.

Dodge
19/02/2006, 7:46 PM
Zurawski off Poland might be a good outside bet. 10 in his last 8 for Celtic including four goals today. A very crisp finisher.
Pbviously a **** take. he's misses about 80% of chamces he gets with celtic. fair play for tha hat trick today but not going to be top scorer in the world cup

Poor Student
19/02/2006, 8:46 PM
It's no urine extraction dodge, he puts them away. He has 12 goals in 13 starts and 2 sub appearances in the league and 15 goals in 17 appearances and 3 substitute appearances in total this season for Celtic. He scored 7 goals in 10 for Poland in their World Cup qualifying campaign and 2 in their last 2 friendlies. Oleg Salenko was top scorer in 1994 and he was not much use in Scotland. I did say as an outside bet.

Pauro 76
20/02/2006, 9:06 AM
what about Roy Makaay of Bayern Munich and Holland at an outsider for 50/1?? he's played at a lot of the grounds in Germany, and has scored plenty for Holland and was hot property at Deportivo?

tetsujin1979
20/02/2006, 9:25 AM
what about Roy Makaay of Bayern Munich and Holland at an outsider for 50/1?? he's played at a lot of the grounds in Germany, and has scored plenty for Holland and was hot property at Deportivo?
Despite his record, he's hardly a regular starter for Holland, is he?

superfrank
20/02/2006, 2:44 PM
Oleg Salenko was top scorer in 1994 and he was not much use in Scotland. I did say as an outside bet.
Was he the guy who scored 4 goals against Cameroon in a 5-1 win?? I think that'd explain that.

Dodge
20/02/2006, 3:02 PM
And even if he was he's still ****...

Pauro 76
20/02/2006, 3:58 PM
Was he the guy who scored 4 goals against Cameroon in a 5-1 win?? I think that'd explain that.

Most goals by a player in a finals match:
5 goals, by Russia's Oleg Salenko against Cameroon on 28/06/1994.

http://home.netvigator.com/~andrewshe/wcrec_goals.html

superfrank
20/02/2006, 9:08 PM
Most goals by a player in a finals match:
5 goals, by Russia's Oleg Salenko against Cameroon on 28/06/1994.

http://home.netvigator.com/~andrewshe/wcrec_goals.html
Close enough, it was 12 years ago after all. :p

Pauro 76
21/02/2006, 9:18 AM
Close enough, it was 12 years ago after all. :p

only for the wonders of the web, Id have struggled to remember as well! :)

londonirish17
21/02/2006, 10:14 AM
I'd been thinking of putting money on Kuranyi.
Does he not start for them?
Well Germany has been most successful when they started with Podolski and Kuranyi up front, but as far as Klinsmann is concerned he wants to give everyone a go... I think their next friendly against the US will reveal some of his plans for the world cup including the choice for Germany's number 1 Lehmann or Kahn...(although Robert Enke from Hannover 96 is much better than both)

londonirish17
21/02/2006, 10:18 AM
Despite his record, he's hardly a regular starter for Holland, is he?
Yep, never starts a game...

londonirish17
21/02/2006, 10:27 AM
i'd have to go for Luca Toni as well myself

the bookies are offering good odds on him because italy are usually low scoring, but they are managed by Lippi this time around, who is way more attacking minded than Trap, Zoff or Cesare Maldini were.

The problem is that the Italians will face tough opponents. No doubts about them winning or at least passing their group but I think they won't score many goals as will the Dutch in their respective group.

superfrank
21/02/2006, 10:29 AM
only for the wonders of the web, Id have struggled to remember as well! :)
I do remember that Russia and Cameroon were in the same group as Brazil and Sweden so it must of been merely a consolation for Russia.

razor
21/02/2006, 1:13 PM
I've always found that strikers that have been out long term injured and come back before the championships usually do the trick.
Won with Ronaldo in 2002 and a packet on Baros in 2004

Dodge
21/02/2006, 1:51 PM
I've always found that strikers that have been out long term injured and come back before the championships usually do the trick.
Won with Ronaldo in 2002 and a packet on Baros in 2004
Raul this year? ;)

DmanDmythDledge
23/02/2006, 4:01 PM
I'd go with Crespo because of the amount of chances Riquelme will create for him.

CollegeTillIDie
25/02/2006, 7:13 PM
what about Roy Makaay of Bayern Munich and Holland at an outsider for 50/1?? he's played at a lot of the grounds in Germany, and has scored plenty for Holland and was hot property at Deportivo?

Makaay has not been very prolific at international level for the Dutch 6 goals in 43 international games. If you want to bet on a Dutch guy Ruud is a better bet with 25 goals in 47 internationals which is better than 1 in 2.

keenanboy
26/02/2006, 7:24 PM
Adriano, Adriano, Adriano. Definitely. Put the ranch on it.

Kingdom
27/02/2006, 2:36 PM
Haven't posted on this yet but have been going trawling for a while now.

One of the Brazilians would have to be certs ( more than likely Adriano) but with so many options there is nothing to say he'll be starting every game.

Don't think Rooney will be near top scorer. Don't think he is prolific enough. Raul is certain of starting so would err on the side of caution with him.

For a value outside bet(well duh:rolleyes: ) playing ideally for a team that could reach the quarters, and with a couple of handy games in the group. Oh and to make it sweeter , some decent odds too.

For my mind Shevchenko. One of the local bookies had him @ 33/1. Fifty lids straight away. They have Tunisia and the Saudi's in the group stages. He's scored 27 in 62 for the Ukrainians so thats prolific enough.

Baros was 25/1 which considering his record for the Czechs is something like better than 1 every 1.5 matches he has to be considered.

NeilMcD
01/03/2006, 2:07 PM
For me its Shevchenko. One of the best strikers in World Football and in a group with two easy enough teams. They should at leat get 4 games out of him and maybe 5. I think at 25/1 he is the outstanding bet.

padzer
02/03/2006, 8:45 AM
For me its Shevchenko. One of the best strikers in World Football and in a group with two easy enough teams. They should at leat get 4 games out of him and maybe 5. I think at 25/1 he is the outstanding bet.


Thats true, with Saudi Arabia and Tunisia in their group he could rattle in a few.

the ox
02/03/2006, 10:16 AM
I can't see the benefit of betting this early cos it's not very likely someone's odds will change before the competition, unless you are predicting they will go on a fine scoring run. And if your player broke his leg, well your bet would have been as useful as someone who bet on Limerick to win the 1st division and Ireland to win the 2006 WC (that's was £25 well spent!)

the 12 th man
02/03/2006, 10:31 AM
I can't see the benefit of betting this early cos it's not very likely someone's odds will change before the competition,

Thats exactly what will happen,as the competition gets nearer you'll see the likes of Wayne Rooney's & Ronaldo's odd will shorten as more and more people put their money on them.

If you fancy a long-shot well then you'd be safe enough waiting imo.

Soko
02/03/2006, 10:04 PM
You really need to be backing a team thats going to reach the last 4 and get 2 games more than the rest of their competition. Obviously no one knows who'll make it but the Ukraine dont have a great chance. You never know though. Its always one of my favourite bets, watch how it will completely distort how you watch a football match and even the tournament.

superfrank
03/03/2006, 9:20 AM
Klose was top-scorer last time but he scored most of his goals in the group stages so it doesn't really matter how far the team goes.

Soko
03/03/2006, 12:22 PM
Klose was top-scorer last time but he scored most of his goals in the group stages so it doesn't really matter how far the team goes.




Ronaldo.