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[sfc red]

Anyone help me out here or am I just too early, wondering what price I'd get on Shels winning double and Setanta.
































Seriously :)

[A face]

Anyone help me out here or am I just too early, wondering what price I'd get on Shels winning double and Setanta.

Seriously :)

Comedians working on their standup material should really be in off-topic !! :p

[Dick Long]

Alas a League/Setanta Cup double bet is not just a matter of multiplying the odds as these are classed as contingency bets as the likelihood of one is seen to increase if you win the other; even though that's exactly the chance you're taking with an ante-post bet. Chances are such a bet accepted in error at the higher price will result in the return being reduced accordingly.

Going by cumulative odds a Shels treble should be at least 66/1 but I'd guess you'd probably be lucky to be offered around half that - and most will get you a price if you ask or email them.

Judging on how they finished and their positive (albeit early yet) captures Galway at 10/1 e/w for the First mightn't be too bad.


BOYLES

Premier
EW: 1/3 1,2
Shelbourne 13/8
Cork 9/4
Derry C. 7/2
Drogheda Utd 12/1
Bohemians 14/1
Longford Town 33/1
St Patrick's Athletic 33/1
Bray Wanderers 50/1
Waterford Utd 50/1
Sligo Rovers 50/1
Ucd 66/1
Dublin City 66/1

Division One
EW: 1/3 1,2
Shamrock Rovers 15/8
Finn Harps 4/1
Cobh Ramblers 5/1
Dundalk 6/1
Kilkenny City 13/2
Galway 10/1
Limerick 16/1
Kildare County 25/1
Monaghan Utd 33/1
Athlone 50/1

Setanta Cup
EW: 1/2 1,2
Cork 7/2
Shelbourne 7/2
Linfield 4/1
Derry City 9/2
Drogheda Utd 8/1
Glentoran 8/1
Portadown 8/1
Dungannon 25/1


LADBROKES

Eircom Premier Division 2006
Each-way bets 1/3 odds first 2
Cork City 7/4
Shelbourne 2/1
Derry City 4/1
Bohemians 10/1
Drogheda United 10/1
Longford Town 20/1
St Patricks Athletic 25/1
Waterford United 25/1
Sligo Rovers 33/1
Bray Wanderers 50/1
Dublin City 50/1
UCD 50/1

Eircom 1st Division 2006
Each-way bets 1/3 odds first 2
Shamrock Rovers 13/8
Finn Harps 3/1
Cobh Ramblers 6/1
Galway United 8/1
Kilkenny City 8/1
Dundalk 10/1
Limerick FC 10/1
Kildare County 20/1
Athlone Town 33/1
Monaghan United 33/1

Setanta Cup 2006
Each-way bets 1/3 odds first 2
Cork City 3/1
Derry City 4/1
Linfield 4/1
Shelbourne 4/1
Drogheda 7/1
Portadown 7/1
Glentoran 10/1
Dungannon Swifts 33/1

[Rory H]

Sligo Rovers 50/1.......:cool: maybe 20cent on that:D


galway at 10's are good....its like when we were 14 this time last year...only we went up

[pete]

Setanta Cup 2006
Drogheda 7/1

Value Bet.

[Rory H]

linfield at 4 will be my bet

[Jaime]

Shels 13/8 with bigger clubs sniffing around Jason Byrne? Anyone who takes any of that wants their head examined. :(

[Roo69]

St Patricks Athletic 25/1
Waterford United 25/1
Sligo Rovers 33/1
Bray Wanderers 50/1
Dublin City 50/1
UCD 50/1

How in the name of god did Ladbrokes come up with these odds :confused:

[pineapple stu]

BOYLES
Premier
UCD 66/1
Dublin City 66/1

LADBROKES
Eircom Premier Division 2006
Dublin City 50/1
UCD 50/1
:confused: Hope I'm not going to regret posting this, but how are we - an established Premier Division team who reached the League Cup semi last year and three of the last five Cup quarter-finals and with more current Irish U-21 squad members than anyone else in the league (a claim which sounds more impressive than it is!:) )- the same odds as a team whose only Premier Division outing resulted in the lowest points total since Monaghan and whom we beat comfortably twice last year?!

Suppose at that level it doesn't really matter, but still.

Edit - Thanks Roo! Nice to see I'm not gone mad!

[Schumi]

Odds down the bottom are irrelevant anyway. If UCD or CHF were 1000/1, it'd still be a euro wasted.

[Dick Long]

I wouldn't worry about it. The bookies haven't a clue about Irish Football. I'd prefer if Waterford were 100/1 or whatever, because at least when the handicap prices are released for which all teams would be the same price with their allocated handicap, there would be a better chance of a bit of value. Derry had a huge handicap last year because they were completely underestimated by the bookies and so had that result wrapped up long before the season was over.

There's no point in betting on Waterford, UCD, Dublin City etc each way because the fact of the matter is they haven't really a hope of finishing 2nd, especially at odds of only 8.3/1 for the place (which is only 3.65/1 on what you would actually put down e/w at 25/1).

[pineapple stu]

Trus, which in fairness is why I added "Suppose at that level it doesn't really matter, but still." Though I'd imagine those odds will form the rough basis for the FAI Cup odds, when the same argument would apply. Now I know we have a chance of winning the FAI Cup, because I've seen enough pictures of us winning it! :)

[Schumi]

So in the revolutionary case of your betting not jinxing the team, you'll get more winnings. Stop moaning. :D

[pineapple stu]

"Relolutionary"?!?!?!

Anyway, you know I don't bet on UCD games. I just see good odds, think "Must put a fiver on that", don't and then we win. Which, after the First Division title debacle, is the way I like it!

[Schumi]

the First Division title debacle
That's the one I'm referring to. :eek:

[Ceirtlis]

i think galway united are a solid bet to win div one. everything seems to coming together for united on and off the field. alan murphy has resigned plus stevie gavin is a good player signed from athlone. there is a postive atmosphere after a great run in to the end of last season. as for the challengers Rovers will obviously be up their but their current team would prob not win the thing judging by their end of season performances. finn harps are dangerous but might have to rebuild after a poor season last year and a strong possibility of losing kevin mchugh. dundalk have been poor for the last few years and are in need of big improvement and kilkenny will most likely fall back with pat scully gone and the possiblity of him taking players to rovers. if we start well we have the potential for crowds similar to that of sligo last year.

[Conor H]

Im putting my bet on GUFC Friday before those odds drop!!
Might put a bet on Derry aswell for the league and Shels for the setanta!

[Conor H]

No it's just i'll be up the town lunch time friday and put it on...no particular reason but i do wan't to do it asap because those odds will defenitely be reduced before the season starts!

[Dick Long]

Rogue Trader, the view I was taking was if you wanted to collect 'the place' at 25/1 (say 10 e/w), you'll collect 93.33 for coming second but it will have cost you 20 because there's no place-only betting. So you're getting only 3.65/1 on your outlay of a score. Granted you do have 10 running on the win part but the chances of finishing even 2nd were remote enough in the first place. It might be better illustrated if it was a 'first three places' bet and you were really only doing it out of some kind of loyalty in the faint hope that your team would beat all expectations and do fantastically to finish third. And then wait 10 long months for it? Waterford were a best price 3.75/1 (15/4) to win in Belfield a couple of months ago!

[Dick Long]

My point is if you are realistically only hoping for the place AT BEST and accept there is NO HOPE of a win, then that is EFFECTIVELY what you are doing. I know exactly what you are saying.

[Red4Eva]

at this extremely early stage where do fans from other prem clubs think ourselves&dublin will finish? i don't want opinions from galway fans

[Dick Long]

Anywhere from 5th down wouldn't surprise me, but I reckon most likely 7th or 8th and away from trouble if you're as ready for it as the impression given. Sligo should be reasonably happy with that in their first season up, anything more would be a bonus. Hoping is one thing but to actually 'expect' better might be a bit naiive after 6 or 7 seasons out of the top flight. Last two First Division champs have gone straight back in bottom spot with a few weeks to spare. I reckon Sligo will be a serious match for anyone at home but on the (long) road will be a different story.

Dublin will be a lot tougher than last time around but it would probably be an even better achievement for them to stay up than they did in coming straight back up - which was a brilliant one. For sure their manager wont be ousting most of their team and bringing in a load of has-been mercenaries half way through this time around.

[Conor H]

i don't want opinions from galway fans
Oh really:rolleyes:

[Red&White]

Just looking on Paddy Power's site but can't find any odds for relegations...anyone know where I can find them?