Since the end of last season

[Troy.McClure]

To be fair Colm, there is a big difference in performances away from home, Im sure that most people will vouch for that.

AFIK What he said was that most people dont know what football is really like, and to be honest I think that he is right (even though he may not know too much himself:p ) There is such a difference between watching, playing and managing. Im fantastic at watching, but crap at playing. Bobby Charlton & Lotar Matteus were a great players but couldnt manage to save their lifes, however Brian Kerr and Sven Errikson werent the best players but still turned out to be good managers. The point Im making (& the one I think Gunther made badly) is that there are alot of "hurlers on the ditch" at the cross who can point out the problem quite easily, but havent put up any solutions.

As the people who help pay the wages, I think that we should get a bit more recognition, but I would say this more to the players than Gunther. I come to see them play not Gunther to stand and shout so I would rather see them give recognition to the fans at the end of a match which hasnt happened in quite a while :(

[Colm]

Originally posted by Troy.McClure
To be fair Colm, there is a big difference in performances away from home, Im sure that most people will vouch for that.
Yeah Troy, I acknowledge that,I've been at a fair few of the away games over the season and generally the performances(and results a lot of the time)have been far better than at home.
To be honest, I cant really pinpoint any single reason for this. It could be due to the fact that a lot of teams shut up shop when they come to the cross or it could be because there are not as many people on the players backs at away fixtures.
Whatever the reasons, we need to produce the performances at home because this is the only way to attract new supporters

[Troy.McClure]

Originally posted by COLM

it could be because there are not as many people on the players backs at away fixtures.Well I think that that's Gunther's (and my) point. You're right about the other 2 points aswell.

If anyone saw Sky news on Friday I think it was, they had a bit about some college in England doing a business course for football managers and Brian McClair (ex Man U player & Blackburn Coach) basically said what I said on my lasy post about the huge difference between playing and managing, and how hard it was.

[Éanna]

Originally posted by Troy.McClure
He didnt blame anyone Eanna, he was giving his reasons for hoofing, he didnt mention or critisize anyone else.

If you are refering to the "fans comment", to be honest, I think he has a point, atleast with regard to some of them.

BO!!LX TROY! He mightn't have mentioned a name of a person or a group, but the sentiments were the same as always- "It's not my fault." Well it is his fckuing fault because he's had long enough to sort it out, and results and performances have got steadily worse, not better since he took over. He has blamed everything and everyone for his own incompetence and has still refused to look at himself.

To be honest I couldn't give 2 fcuks what Liam Murphy thinks of me, or how much he or anyone else thinks about football.
What bugged the living crap out of me about what Liam Murhpy said -
"Those people do not understand football. I took over last season after we had taken a hiding from St Pat's and you saw in the past eight days we were unlucky to lose to Pat's 2-3 and we made it very difficult for Shels today. I don't pay any attention to those people."- was not him suggesting my knowledge of football was poor, but the fact that he said he didn't pay attention to the fans- we pay his wages.

I've had enough of that crap from liam murphy at this stage- he's had a chance, and now he can P!SS OFF.

[dalo]

eanna aren't you allowing this liam murphy thing to over whelm your life a bit. can't you find a outlet for all this anger somwhere else. a jedi is not supposed to know anger nor hate or you will succumb to the dark side:cool:

[A face]

You should let one comment cut you up like that man, chill out and forget about it. He is human after all ..... has anyone thought that he might have just said it out of fustration and not really meant it at all. Either way i wouldn't get that worked up over it.

More pressing matters on hand right now, like a new season is just about to start and there isn't a child in the house washed :D

[Éanna]

Originally posted by dalo
eanna aren't you allowing this liam murphy thing to over whelm your life a bit.
Not at all- It has nothing to with my life except when I start thinking of city.:cool:

[Colm]

Originally posted by Éanna


BO!!LX TROY! He mightn't have mentioned a name of a person or a group, but the sentiments were the same as always- "It's not my fault." Well it is his fckuing fault because he's had long enough to sort it out, and results and performances have got steadily worse, not better since he took over. He has blamed everything and everyone for his own incompetence and has still refused to look at himself.

To be honest I couldn't give 2 fcuks what Liam Murphy thinks of me, or how much he or anyone else thinks about football.
What bugged the living crap out of me about what Liam Murhpy said -- was not him suggesting my knowledge of football was poor, but the fact that he said he didn't pay attention to the fans- we pay his wages.

I've had enough of that crap from liam murphy at this stage- he's had a chance, and now he can P!SS OFF.

I agree 100% with all of what you have said.