Jack Charlton

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has anyone seen the new jack charlton dvd and is it any good? (well im sure it is,there are lots of good memories from that era)

[onenilgameover]

was thinkin of gettin a hold of it myself...but since the lack of qualification I've been somewhat down...

What I can say is if you get yourself a hold of ''The Charlton Years'' on video it has all the memories and some.... its a great video with well chosen music and very well shot etc....This new one seemed to be a bit of a money spinner having been released around the swiss game. i reckon they thought if we qualified they would have sold like hot cakes...but alas...

[pineapple stu]

It's not great to be honest - too much chat and stories you've probably heard before and very little in the way of actual footage.

[Paulie]

It's not great to be honest - too much chat and stories you've probably heard before and very little in the way of actual footage.

True. I was a bit disappointed to be honest. I expected it to have all the goals from the qualifying campaigns during Charlton's time in charge but there is very little match footage on it. It's more just anecdotes from players and a couple of Irish celebrities. It's worth watching once but there is very little repeat value in it. On the plus side, Colm Meaney is the presenter and comes across very well as a genuine supporter of the Intl team. Also the cheesy graphics and music from previous Ireland videos are gone.

[bohysingreen]

I would agree it’s not that great, in fact the couple of clips
that were posted on this site recently got the memories flooding
back & the hairs on the back of my head up far more than watching
that dvd

[Jerry The Saint]

True. I was a bit disappointed to be honest. I expected it to have all the goals from the qualifying campaigns during Charlton's time in charge but there is very little match footage on it. It's more just anecdotes from players and a couple of Irish celebrities. It's worth watching once but there is very little repeat value in it. On the plus side, Colm Meaney is the presenter and comes across very well as a genuine supporter of the Intl team. Also the cheesy graphics and music from previous Ireland videos are gone.

Does Ollie Byrne pop up in the middle of it?

I say this because the last Colm Meaney-fronted sporting nostalgia DVD, last year's on Dublin 70's football, had several interviews of former players sitting in the stands at Tolka (clearly they were refused permission to film at Croker and just brought their gear down to the nearest stadium). Ollie seems to have allowed this on the condition that he gets a few minutes of waffle on the DVD. So his ugly mug comes on and says something about how he was never interested in Gaelic but he does remember Dublin winning something once. Eh, thanks for that Ollie. :rolleyes:

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looks like it a non runner for this xmas,will stick with what i have.

[thejollyrodger]

i might just get it for the WC2006 and think of all the good times sniff

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/REPUBLIC-OF-IRELAND-3-DVD-SET-WORLD-CUP-90-94-EURO-88_W0QQitemZ6461126672QQcategoryZ42854QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

.....found this while having a look round...it would probably do the trick during lonely world cup nights....

[klein4]

dont get this dvd. there is no bleedin football in it! they must have been to cheap to pay rte for the footage or something. and they only interview a couple of the people involved(altho they are interesting interviews) a shame cause there is a much better documentary to be made on the era.

[Macy]

Are any of the original video's available on DVD? You know, the qualifying campaigns etc?

It's actually a market that is really missed out on. A firm brought one out for United, with the original ITV highlights of the 1985 FA Cup semi's and final. Quality to watch, and far better than anything with bullshít talk over the top and more interviews than action....

[pineapple stu]

Was thinking that alright. Would love to see 10 minutes of each of the qualifying games and then 30 minutes of each of the finals games. Could do a series going all the way back to whenever RTÉ started showing games (66 anyway?). I'll just have to rely on the video collection I have of all of Ireland's World Cup finals games (except Egypt) from when they were originally played. :)

[highlight100]

anyone know where i can get the old documentaries,que sera sera,etc... possibly on dvd :)

[dutchie]

jack was always a lover of money,i think this dvd is just a top up for his pension:rolleyes:

[Paulie]

anyone know where i can get the old documentaries,que sera sera,etc... possibly on dvd :)

You might be lucky and find one in HMV or something like that but I'd say your best best is to try the RTE Website. Most of these DVD's are produced by RTE so they may still be selling them.

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You might be lucky and find one in HMV or something like that but I'd say your best best is to try the RTE Website. Most of these DVD's are produced by RTE so they may still be selling them.
not much luck there...

[as_i_say]

this is the worst programme i have ever seen about the irish team ever. just a bunch of cr appy interviews where the interviewees seem completely bored and uninterested. I actually bought it because the inlay said it featured qualification for euro 1992-some cracking games, but of course all it has is people talking about the bloody games!

I was so disgusted at the quality of this dvd that i brought it back to hmv-first time in my life i've ever returned a dvd or cd.

The lad who took it back said i wasnt the first either. Charlton and all associated should be ashamed of themselves. :mad:

[OwlsFan]

Have to agree with a lot of the comments here. Very little footage of the action and the longest story dealt with the team meeting the pope :eek: which was of little interest. Stapleton was moaning as usual but it was nice to hear Giles say some nice things about Jack for a change. Eoin Hand was his usual begrudging self ("It should have been me") but there was really very little new in the whole thing. Didn't know he shed a tear at Anfield though.

I have the tape of a previous version of the Charlton Years shown on RTE some years ago (the one which ends with him on his way to the airport in the taxi which was much better) and also have many old games also on Betamax :eek: I must do a catalogue of them all sometime.

[as_i_say]

yeah there were 2 editions of the charlton years. the first was the free tape that they gave out to people at some match at landsdown road, then they showed the unedited (just has more footage n stuff) version on rte a few weeks later. great vid it was.

Honestly with all this nostalgia we're getting as bad as the north and their constant yammering about their 1-0 win over spain in 1982!

[Stormin Normin]

I've watched the DVD and think some of you are missing the point. My take on the DVD is that it is more an attempt to assess the Charlton era and its impact since than just showing clips of games etc. I enjoyed listening to both those who would have been in the Charlton camp and those who were not big fans of Charlton e.g Frank Stapleton. For once in his life he actually spoke reasonably well.

Agreed it could have done with showing a bit more of the games but I enjoyed it all the same.

[klein4]

I have to say I think Stapleton always comes accross well in these things. he suffers a lot from being lampooned by barry murphy on apres match.I dont really like him as a commentator but he is far from the idiot of popular imagination. I thought he came accross really well on the programme that was on one time about the four who went to Arsenal in the 70s. was called whos that standing next to Larry(?) Murphy.cant remember the exact name..

[Stuttgart88]

Johnny. Greystones & Ireland international rugby full-back.

[as_i_say]

frank was very very nervous when he first started punditing. i'll always remember himself and that lad from tv3 sitting in a jaccuzzi in malta before our 2-3 win over there some years back. couldnt string 2 words together but is easy to listen to now i think.

far better than niall "everyone is super" quinn.

[OwlsFan]

I've watched the DVD and think some of you are missing the point. My take on the DVD is that it is more an attempt to assess the Charlton era and its impact since than just showing clips of games etc.

That's a good point. However, the fan doesn't really want an in-depth analysis of the meaning of the Charlton Years or a 5 minute spiel on the meeting with the Holy Fatter. All old hat. We want goals, incidents, post match interviews and then some more...

I heard Eoin Hand having another go at Jack on the radio this am. Eoin really resents the success of the Charlton years and believes it should all have been his, forgetting that in his final campaign we came last in our group and got stuffed by the Danes 1-4 at home in front of 14,000, many of whom booed the team at the end. Some close shots prior to that under Eoin but he should lose the chip on the shoulder.

[Peadar]

was called whos that standing next to Larry(?) Murphy..

It's called "Who’s That Standing Beside John Murphy?."
Made by Tyrone Productions, I think it was part of the True Lives series on RTÉ.
jbyrne on here gave me a lend of it on video about 4 years ago.

[DannyInvincible]

I uploaded the 'Charlton Years' documentary people were talking about earlier in this thread to YouTube over the past day or two. Just thought I'd share it here as well as the "Ireland on YouTube" thread for anyone interested. It's just over an hour and a half long and is split into eight videos. It features a decent bit of footage from qualifiers as well as finals, along with interviews with Charlton himself, a few players and inputs from Giles and Dunphy here and there.

Part 1:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpOYoaRCB9w

The links to the follow-up videos 2-8 can be accessed in the video description section, or this playlist will just play all eight videos through automatically:
http://www.youtube.com/user/CuChoileain#grid/user/AE9944BD0EB5FF4D

I've also segmented some of the games from the documentary footage into separate videos dedicated to each match and uploaded them here for easier access to highlights from the documentary of a specific game: http://www.youtube.com/user/CuChoileain?feature=mhee#g/u


I'll just have to rely on the video collection I have of all of Ireland's World Cup finals games (except Egypt) from when they were originally played. :)

You wouldn't have the RTÉ coverage (including build-up) of the Italy match at the 1994 World Cup, by any chance, or have some way of uploading it if you do?

[pineapple stu]

You wouldn't have the RTÉ coverage (including build-up) of the Italy match at the 1994 World Cup, by any chance, or have some way of uploading it if you do?
All I have is the recording off "World Cup Gold" on TG4. I'll check, but I think it more or less starts with a 30-second intro from Packie Bonner followed by straight into kick-off.

(Actually, I don't know why I said I had the games from when they were actually played. All I have is Mexico, Norway and Holland from '94 from when they were actually played cos I was on holidays at the time and the neighbour recorded them. Italia 90 and the Italy game are all from World Cup Gold)

[paul_oshea]

I uploaded the 'Charlton Years' documentary people were talking about earlier in this thread to YouTube over the past day or two. Just thought I'd share it here as well as the "Ireland on YouTube" thread for anyone interested. It's just over an hour and a half long and is split into eight videos. It features a decent bit of footage from qualifiers as well as finals, along with interviews with Charlton himself, a few players and inputs from Giles and Dunphy here and there.

Part 1:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpOYoaRCB9w

The links to the follow-up videos 2-8 can be accessed in the video description section, or this playlist will just play all eight videos through automatically:
http://www.youtube.com/user/CuChoileain#grid/user/AE9944BD0EB5FF4D

I've also segmented some of the games from the documentary footage into separate videos dedicated to each match and uploaded them here for easier access to highlights from the documentary of a specific game: http://www.youtube.com/user/CuChoileain?feature=mhee#g/u



You wouldn't have the RTÉ coverage (including build-up) of the Italy match at the 1994 World Cup, by any chance, or have some way of uploading it if you do?

I know they need to try and make advertising money per clip but its a pity a rival woudln't come like google videos and allow you upload in parts and then reattach together....

[AlaskaFox]

Google owns Youtube Paul ;)

[DannyInvincible]

All I have is the recording off "World Cup Gold" on TG4. I'll check, but I think it more or less starts with a 30-second intro from Packie Bonner followed by straight into kick-off.

(Actually, I don't know why I said I had the games from when they were actually played. All I have is Mexico, Norway and Holland from '94 from when they were actually played cos I was on holidays at the time and the neighbour recorded them. Italia 90 and the Italy game are all from World Cup Gold)

I see. Not to worry. Cheers anyway.

[Kingdom]

have to be honest after seeing the thread so high up I expected the worst.

[DannyInvincible]

have to be honest after seeing the thread so high up I expected the worst.

That did actually concern me once I realised the possibility of people jumping to such a conclusion upon seeing it after posting. I should apologise for any shock or anxiety caused. :)

[BonnieShels]

Did the same earlier. Feck ya Danny.

[Kingdom]

No worries Danny, didn't mean to put you under any pressure.