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garykelly
24/11/2005, 2:07 PM
Am just wondering how many season ticket holders each club currently have. I think Sligo Rovers have in or around 400, which is ok for an avg crowd of 1819 (Credit to Pineapple Stus Stats)

MariborKev
24/11/2005, 2:59 PM
Derry City have around 723(it was that the last time I checked)

Terry
25/11/2005, 8:03 AM
about 500 adult I think, dont know about the rest, i.e. student, kids..

Risteard
25/11/2005, 8:13 AM
I think City just have a 100 or so.
They don't offer much of a saving really.

dcfcsteve
25/11/2005, 9:29 AM
I think City just have a 100 or so.
They don't offer much of a saving really.

Regardless of saving, that's a terrible figure for the best supported team in the Republic.

A season ticket would guarantee entry/first shout for hard-to-get games like Derry and Europe.

I'm shocked that more Cork fans don't committ up-front. Any saving is better than none if you know you're going to be a regular.

Krstic
25/11/2005, 9:38 AM
A season ticket would guarantee entry/first shout for hard-to-get games like Derry and Europe.



You would think that, wouldn't you Steve:confused: :confused: :eek:

dcfcsteve
25/11/2005, 9:42 AM
You would think that, wouldn't you Steve:confused: :confused: :eek:

Home games - yes. Away games - of course not.....

Roo69
25/11/2005, 9:43 AM
Am just wondering how many season ticket holders each club currently have. I think Sligo Rovers have in or around 400, which is ok for an avg crowd of 1819 (Credit to Pineapple Stus Stats)

I reckon we have about 400/500 ourself

Mark Breen
25/11/2005, 9:52 AM
I know its off topic (like most on here)

But if you have a season ticket you SHOULD get tickets for all home games (European) and all away games ahead of the people who don't get a season ticket,

ps i don't have one for shel's but i wouldn't begrudge some one who did getting a ticket before me

Also i have no idea how many season tickets shelbourne have

Risteard
25/11/2005, 9:55 AM
Regardless of saving, that's a terrible figure for the best supported team in the Republic.

A season ticket would guarantee entry/first shout for hard-to-get games like Derry and Europe.

I'm shocked that more Cork fans don't committ up-front. Any saving is better than none if you know you're going to be a regular.
Think the saving isn't even 1 game.
I miss 2 or 3 games every year so it'd be pointless to buy.
Having said that, they've an expensive one out for next season that gives your own seat for each game including Champions League with free programme and tea and a roll or something.
Think i might join that to help out Lennox, guarantee my City v Barca ticket and let me join the prawn sandwich brigade at half-time for summat to eat.

bigmac
25/11/2005, 9:58 AM
Think the saving isn't even 1 game.
I miss 2 or 3 games every year so it'd be pointless to buy.
Having said that, they've an expensive one out for next season that gives your own seat for each game including Champions League with free programme and tea and a roll or something.
Think i might join that to help out Lennox, guarantee my City v Barca ticket and let me join the prawn sandwich brigade at half-time for summat to eat.

Do you not get your own seat as it is? WUFC have three different types - stand ticket (I've had the same seat basically since the stand was built), ground ticket and there's also some deal where you can get into the bar at half time (not sure what sort of food is there though)
I have no idea how many holders there are though.

Krstic
25/11/2005, 10:00 AM
Home games - yes. Away games - of course not.....

Well Steve, call me stupid if you like but I cannot see why a season ticket holder would have an automatic right to "hard-to-get" home tickets, yet no rights at all to "hard-to-get" away tickets.

I'm still confused:confused:

bigmac
25/11/2005, 10:05 AM
Well Steve, call me stupid if you like but I cannot see why a season ticket holder would have an automatic right to "hard-to-get" home tickets, yet no rights at all to "hard-to-get" away tickets.


How about if Derry guaranteed away tickets to all their season ticket holders then? What would have happened when they only got 500 for the Cork game? You can ony guarantee ticketes if you know that you'll have enough - the club has no control over away games really.

Risteard
25/11/2005, 10:12 AM
How about if Derry guaranteed away tickets to all their season ticket holders then? What would have happened when they only got 500 for the Cork game? You can ony guarantee ticketes if you know that you'll have enough - the club has no control over away games really.
Precisely.
Citys season ticket structures below.
I think someone on the official site worked out that you'd actually make a loss on one of them. possibly the family ticket.

The Gold Season Ticket remains the same as last year, allowing holders unreserved admission to all home Cork City FC eircom League matches. For 2006, the Diamond Season Ticket grants holders a reserved seat in the Donie Forde Stand for all home Cork City FC matches (excluding FAI Cup and UEFA Group Stage matches). Meanwhile, the Platinum Season Ticket gives holders a reserved seat in the Platinum Section of the Donie Forde Stand for all home Cork City FC matches, including a complimentary match day programme and half time refreshments at your seat.

The price structure for 2006 season tickets is as follows:

Gold Diamond Platinum
Adults €190 €325 €500
Juvenile
(12-18 year old)/
OAP €115 €200
Schoolboy/girl
( Under 12) €75 €125

Family
(2 Adults & 2 Children) €500 €900

bigmac
25/11/2005, 10:20 AM
The price structure for 2006 season tickets is as follows:

Gold Diamond Platinum
Adults €190 €325 €500
Juvenile
(12-18 year old)/
OAP €115 €200
Schoolboy/girl
( Under 12) €75 €125

Family
(2 Adults & 2 Children) €500 €900

Expensive enough for the stand ticket. Do they say anything about first refusal on cup games or european games though?

Risteard
25/11/2005, 10:30 AM
No, you'd have to get a platinum ticket.
The thing about this though is if tickets for the cup were sold out, they WOULD take money off ya if you were a ticketless gold season-ticket holder in all honesty.
Its a nice kind of corruption.
Yes, all the season tickets are very expensive really imo, especially seen as €13 isn't expensive adult admission relative to other eL clubs.
No student prices either which i think is fair enough.

Krstic
25/11/2005, 10:32 AM
How about if Derry guaranteed away tickets to all their season ticket holders then? What would have happened when they only got 500 for the Cork game? You can ony guarantee ticketes if you know that you'll have enough - the club has no control over away games really.

All I asked for was the opportunity to at least compete with other season tickets holders for "A" ticket.

Season ticket holders were not given that opportunity.

No tickets,from Derry's allocation, went on general sale.

Drumcondra Red
25/11/2005, 10:52 AM
Kristic you're right, you should have had first refusal there!

At Shelbourne our season tickets in clude league, league cup and european games, so for the latter you would have to go down and collect your ticket, getting your name crossed off in the process.

I cannot believe the price of Cork's season tickets, do people seriously pay that??? Ours cost €100 for students, €60 for children and €200 for adults (I think, can't remember too well) but the main attraction there being a good saving and european football included in the price!

Like Mark, I have no idea how many we have!

pete
25/11/2005, 11:01 AM
I think City just have a 100 or so.
They don't offer much of a saving really.

Don't know where you got that figure. City would have minimum 500 season ticket holders. I'd expect numbers to increase a lot for next season.

If upper half of the stand holders 800 & about at very minimum half that is reserved seating i.e. season ticket holders. This does not include ground season ticket holders for people in the sehd etc...

Krstic
25/11/2005, 11:02 AM
Kristic you're right, you should have had first refusal there!



It's not even first refusal I was after, Just an 'opportunity' of being in with a chance of a ticket.

Sponsors,officials, player and volunteers are very much entitled to tickets but no more so than a season ticket holder, who effectively sponors the team buy purchasing their ticket and making a commitment before a ball is kicked.

Risteard
25/11/2005, 11:12 AM
Don't know where you got that figure. City would have minimum 500 season ticket holders. I'd expect numbers to increase a lot for next season.

If upper half of the stand holders 800 & about at very minimum half that is reserved seating i.e. season ticket holders. This does not include ground season ticket holders for people in the sehd etc...

Think it was Lennox or Feeney said (almost certain) 100 in the last programme.
Said they were making a big push to increase it.

Pete, its definately less than half of the upper part of the stand. You've got the family enclosure and the same length again and that on the other side aswell.
So upper stand minus 4xFamily enclosure is just the space in and around the media rooms and the tunnel and thats mainly media, directors, opposing directors and players i'd imagine.
Having said that i'd imagine a lot o the regulars who are season-ticket holders wouldn't go near Donie Forde.

Troy.McClure
25/11/2005, 11:18 AM
Don't know where you got that figure. City would have minimum 500 season ticket holders. I'd expect numbers to increase a lot for next season.

If upper half of the stand holders 800 & about at very minimum half that is reserved seating i.e. season ticket holders. This does not include ground season ticket holders for people in the shed etc...

Ya, dunno where you got 100 from :confused: there would be way more than that, have you ever seen the top half of the main stand? And they are the more expencive tickets!

As City are prob the cheapest club to pay in at the gate, there isnt as much pressure to get a season ticket, its main advantage is that you dont have to queue up before games to buy your ticket. At €190 for unreserved seating, thats a bargain though for what you get out of it and especially if you compare how much it would cost to go to England to see a Premiership game

Risteard
25/11/2005, 11:22 AM
Will check the Derry programme there when i get home to see what it said.

It'd be funny to post a full retraction.
Ha.
The truth will out.

The Good Son
25/11/2005, 11:28 AM
Last years Platinum season ticket for City was a very good deal. Cost €310, and if I'm correct in my calculations it would have cost €399 at the gate (I could be wrong with that figure but it's around that mark). Then again last year was possibly an exception with four cup games, two league cup games, three UEFA games and the Hibs friendly. Next year there's an extra Setanta game but could obviously only end up with one European game, no league cup games and FAI cup games now gone.

pete
25/11/2005, 11:29 AM
Family section in the cross is only 1 section of the stand. I know there are VIp tickets 'n stuff but at very minimum there are 2 full sections of seated season ticket holders.

Layout for stand (http://www.corkcityfc.ie/downloads/2006seasonticket.pdf)

I know not all those reserved seats will be taken but I still can't see how Lennox would say only 100 people.

Risteard
25/11/2005, 11:36 AM
*cough * cough,
limbering up.
From time to time, despite my best endeavours, my research is not always at the high standards . . . . . . . . .
Anyone have a programme at hand to check?
I think it might have been Noelle said it.

Mr A
25/11/2005, 11:44 AM
Rogue Trader- Galway have a large amount of season ticket holders because they have a very attractive scheme where loads of vouchers for local businesses are given away with the very cheap season tickets. It makes sense for people to buy them even if they just go to the odd game. It's a very impressive set-up that other clubs should take a serious look at.

As for Cork, I think one of the main reasons that there aren't as many season ticket holders as there might be is that such an incredible proportion of the crowd pay in as U16's. I was on the gate for the cup match earlier this year and was astonished, not so much that so many people did this, but Cork turn a blind eye to it. seriously, there was a lot of people closer to 30 than 16! Therefore a season ticket wouldn't make any sense at all when you're saving €7 a game as it is.

Harps terrace ticket is €150 a season. Not much of a saving but it's great not having to queue up. Not sure how many people have them, maybe 150, but that's a total guess.

bigmac
25/11/2005, 1:14 PM
All I asked for was the opportunity to at least compete with other season tickets holders for "A" ticket.
Season ticket holders were not given that opportunity.
No tickets,from Derry's allocation, went on general sale.

Fair enough, I totally agree that season ticket holders should have first refusal if there are tickets available. Where did all Derry's tickets end up so?

Krstic
25/11/2005, 1:18 PM
Fair enough, I totally agree that season ticket holders should have first refusal if there are tickets available. Where did all Derry's tickets end up so?

Players,sponsors,officials and volunteers.
I think some also went to affiliated supporters clubs.

Very disappointed ,it's the first major Derry City game I've missed in 20 years.

Terry
25/11/2005, 1:23 PM
Terry in all fairness mate you boys only have an average crowd of 500 odd or so and you are saying you have a season ticket holders which amount to 500 adults alone ! :eek: If that was the case you would have nobody basically paying in and not all the serason ticket holders going to matches ! I think you need to recheck your figure !


My figures are correct. Not all season ticket holders attend all matches. Im a season ticket holder and I only made it to half of the home games this season! In galway the supporters dont buy the tickets so they get a discount, they buy the tickets to give money up front to the club. If I thought I wouldn't make a single game next season I would still buy my ticket and support the club I love.

GUFC til I die.

Risteard
25/11/2005, 1:25 PM
Players,sponsors,officials and volunteers.
I think some also went to affiliated supporters clubs.

Well i can tell you this.
They did ye proud.

My sympathies nonetheless.
To not miss a game in twenty years,you'd think enough people would know to look after ya.
Did ya come down anyway?

Krstic
25/11/2005, 1:52 PM
Well i can tell you this.
They did ye proud.

My sympathies nonetheless.
To not miss a game in twenty years,you'd think enough people would know to look after ya.
Did ya come down anyway?

No, I had a bit of a house party instead, which turned into a wake after you lot beat us.

I thought I had 2 tickets a few days before, but even at that i had promised them to my Da and Uncle(they'd booked a long weekend in Cork months previous with wives so they were going even if it wasn't a decider)
but those tickets didn't appear.

Eventually to Derry City's credit my Da got sorted (he had to drive to the team hotel on the Friday afternoon) but the whole thing has left a nasty taste.

Won't stop me supporting the team, and in all honesty the guys running the club are doing an amazing job.

So I'm going to stop whinging about it.

pineapple stu
25/11/2005, 2:35 PM
I think UCD have 100-200 or so.

But it's a fairly meaningless comparison. My office has a Bray Wanderers season ticket because we're a corporate supporter (and of course I forgot to bring it for both of our games...). I'd say a lot of corporate season tickets are given out and would be included in a club's figure.

Risteard
25/11/2005, 2:45 PM
No, I had a bit of a house party instead, which turned into a wake after you lot beat us.

I thought I had 2 tickets a few days before, but even at that i had promised them to my Da and Uncle(they'd booked a long weekend in Cork months previous with wives so they were going even if it wasn't a decider)
but those tickets didn't appear.

Eventually to Derry City's credit my Da got sorted (he had to drive to the team hotel on the Friday afternoon) but the whole thing has left a nasty taste.

Won't stop me supporting the team, and in all honesty the guys running the club are doing an amazing job.

So I'm going to stop whinging about it.
You'd have gotten in alright but tis spilt milk.
Roddy and yer board do seem like they're doing a decent job.
Just like Lennox.
Tell Roddy i'm sorry for dancing in front of him but he deserved it for his abuse of Georgie. :D
Its Cork City who screwed ye over so like i said sympathies but i'd have done the same thing myself if i was lennox. He had to look after number 1 for the day thats in it. I pray for another title decider in the Brandywell next november.

dcfcsteve
25/11/2005, 3:58 PM
Well Steve, call me stupid if you like but I cannot see why a season ticket holder would have an automatic right to "hard-to-get" home tickets, yet no rights at all to "hard-to-get" away tickets.

I'm still confused:confused:

Clubs have total control over tickets for home games, and therefore set whatever ticketing policies they want. Most would give priority to season ticket holders.

For away games, clubs have NO such control. Therfore - if they find themselves in receipt of less away tickets than the number of season ticket-holders they have, then season ticket holders will obviously miss out.

I assume by your reference to 'no rights to away tickets' that you're talking about the recent Cork v City game ? Well some season ticket-holders did get tickets - purely or primarily by virtue of the fact that they were (I didn't get one through that route, by the way)

The club were in an impossible situation regarding tickets for that game, and whilst it could've been handled better it's ground that has been gone over plenty of times already. I'd suggest stuff like this would be more appropriate for the DCFC forums.

sligoman
25/11/2005, 6:12 PM
Any chance of this thread going back on topic?:rolleyes:

Conor H
25/11/2005, 11:09 PM
So it is companies mainly buying tickets through your promotion scheme ? I mean no offence but surely there is not 500 nutters like yourself Terry Who buy season tickets and dont go to matches i can understand Companies alright !
No Rogue Trader there is.The 2006launch (http://www.galwayunitedfc.ie)is on Tuesday in the radisson.It's a massive thing and loads do buy the tickets as there marketed really well.Alot head to the 1st game of the season and then decide that's their pilgrimage to Terryland for the year!

Conor H
25/11/2005, 11:09 PM
So it is companies mainly buying tickets through your promotion scheme ? I mean no offence but surely there is not 500 nutters like yourself Terry Who buy season tickets and dont go to matches i can understand Companies alright !
No Rogue Trader there is.The 20006launch (http://www.galwayunitedfc.ie)is on Tuesday in the radisson.It's a massive thing and loads do buy the tickets as there marketed really well.Alot head to the 1st game of the season and then decide that's their pilgrimage to Terryland for the year!

Patrick Dunne
26/11/2005, 6:01 PM
468 (for breakdown see Galway forum).

This is a decrease on the 2004 figure, but with an earlier launch (next week) we hope to get it over the 500 figure for 2006.

PD.