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joeSoap
09/11/2005, 10:42 AM
Celtic and Keane have nowhere to go it seems
Ewan Murray The Guardian

Scottish League Cup Quarter-final: Roy Keane is likely to have to make his peace at Manchester United to prolong his playing career after Celtic's chief executive Peter Lawwell said yesterday that the club's manager Gordon Strachan has shown no desire to sign the Irishman.

Keane seemed to have his heart set on a move to Glasgow in January after admitting his days at Old Trafford were numbered, but Lawwell said: "He is a worldwide name and a fantastic footballer, but he is still a United player. We are in the process of looking at Gordon's budget for January, but he hasn't spoken to us about Keane."

Celtic head into tonight's Old Firm clash - the first of two in the space of 10 days - on a stable footing in the boardroom and on the field and in a far more optimistic mood than might have been anticipated after their uncertain start to the season.

The Bhoys are at the top of the table and Strachan has finally been embraced by the club's supporters, a fact that Lawwell has welcomed.

"We went though a massive change before the season started and I don't think the extent of that change was appreciated externally," he said.

"We had a new management team, we had lost 13 players in six months, brought in seven and in terms of style Gordon wanted something different to Martin O'Neill. The existing players had to get used to new things.

"The early big games came too early for us in that change process, so the satisfaction is that having been through so much we are seeing stability now. There's a real satisfaction in seeing Gordon being successful."

While Celtic have prospered after a disastrous opening to Strachan's reign - they were humbled 5-0 by Artmedia Bratislava in his first match, a result that virtually ended their European campaign - Rangers have been in indifferent form. Alex McLeish's men have lost three SPL matches and trail Celtic by 12 points.

That Strachan has managed such a turnaround is all the more impressive because he has had to follow O'Neill, the most successful Celtic manager since Jock Stein.

"He has both faced that challenge and recovered from a bad start where certain sections of the media and support had question marks over him," said Lawwell. "Gordon knew as much about Celtic from the outside looking in as anyone did, but, even at that, when he came in here, there were huge surprises to him in terms of the scale of the job. But he has coped with those surprises well."

There are no such hidden issues with the club's debts, which stand at £20million after a period of sustained expenditure on high-profile players, mainly under O'Neill's stewardship. Celtic hope to raise £15million from a share issue launched last month, but none of it will be spent on transfers.

Lawwell disputes, though, that Celtic are no longer able to compete with Europe's elite clubs when it comes to signing players.

"We need to build a sustainable business, so the club simply can't keep losing money," he said.

The Old Firm hierarchy continue to look at the possibility of a long-mooted move to the English Premiership.

"For me, Celtic's full potential will not be fulfilled playing in a nation of four million people," he said.

"If Celtic played in an environment where they got the same exposure as England, Germany or Spain, then there would be few bigger clubs in the world. To get the opportunity to take Celtic throughout the world would be a dream, but at the moment there is nowhere to go."

OwlsFan
09/11/2005, 10:57 AM
Who cares where he goes - this area is about the Irish international team. He's someone that is not interested in playing for us anymore so no matter where he goes, it has no bearing on our international team.

joeSoap
09/11/2005, 11:01 AM
True...I probably shouldn't have posted it here. Maybe a mod can move it to World Football:ball: ....

as_i_say
09/11/2005, 11:26 AM
jesus yeah and while you're at it ill call the cops.

klein4
09/11/2005, 11:33 AM
he is only the best player to ever play for us so people might have a slight interest....bleedin stalinist.

Hither green
09/11/2005, 11:49 AM
he is only the best player to ever play for us

Oh not that one again... [queue numerous responses disagreeing]

klein4
09/11/2005, 11:56 AM
well one of the best surely??????????? and the best I have ever seen play for Ireland deffinitely....anyway its more to do with the "technically he doesnt play for Ireland anymore so according to article 7.12 of subsection 12 of the rulebook of the forum you cant post that here..." that does my nut in...

gustavo
09/11/2005, 12:30 PM
well of course you could just go the othe way and let anyone post anything anywhere they want!but i would agree that it does belong here.

NeilMcD
09/11/2005, 1:33 PM
THe point is its as valid as any othe ex Irish International and if you post up stories of ex International Irish players in World Football, well it seems a bit silly to me. Maybe there now shoudl be a new forum for ex international players. Once again peoples sound judgement goes out the window when it comes to Roy Keane. He has this power in people to get them throw out their normally rational brains and talk absolute rubbish. This is in regard to both the pro and anti Keane brigade.

klein4
09/11/2005, 2:14 PM
or more correctly you are only interested in talented lads who havent played yet and so havent proved themselves to be otherwise like the current bunch we have?????

gustavo
09/11/2005, 3:48 PM
This forum is for discussing all aspects of the National Team that includes former , future and present players , hence why we have future XIs and have had all time great XIs threads in the past.

Armando
09/11/2005, 7:07 PM
yep Roy WAS a great player. WAS. WAS. WAS.
I'm interested in talented lads who ARE good and WANT to play.

I'm young, talented and good, and I'd really like to play for Ireland. Can I have a thread dedicated to myself in the Ireland section?

He's still the best midfielder in the Premier league.

AidoM
09/11/2005, 7:25 PM
He's still the best midfielder in the Premier league.[/QUOTE]

He probably been the best hurler on the ditch for the last few weeks:o

brine3
09/11/2005, 7:51 PM
They can write a story out of anything nowadays. The chairman just gave a standard answer.

thejollyrodger
09/11/2005, 8:37 PM
To be honest I dont really care about Keano anymore. In his day, he was a great playerh but now he is nothing more than a seasoned pro trying to extend his playing days and I dont have a whole pile of time for players like that.

I wish he would just fade away gracefully and either get into management or walk his dog every day.

eirebhoy
09/11/2005, 10:03 PM
Best player in the Premiership at the moment? Are you insane son?
I think Lampard (10 goals in the league already from midfield) would have something to say about that.
Gerrard is better than Lampard, Henry is better than both. :p

NeilMcD
10/11/2005, 9:14 AM
Opinions opinions thats what makes football so Great but I would think that the 3 top performers over the last 12 months have been Lampard Henry and Terry in no particular order but I would give it to Henry. Rooney and Czech and Given and Duff have been top class also

macdermesser
10/11/2005, 10:50 AM
Opinions opinions thats what makes football so Great but I would think that the 3 top performers over the last 12 months have been Lampard Henry and Terry in no particular order but I would give it to Henry. Rooney and Czech and Given and Duff have been top class also

now that's definitely veering into "World Football" territory ..

klein4
10/11/2005, 1:06 PM
was a bit of a non story really.
there is talk of an ireland v england freindly..surprised that hasnt got a mention.....(just to tie in lampard,terry,duff and given into an irish national team context)

OwlsFan
10/11/2005, 2:09 PM
he is only the best player to ever play for us so people might have a slight interest....bleedin stalinist.

He's also the best player not to have played for us :p

klein4
10/11/2005, 3:05 PM
He's also the best player not to have played for us :p
better than pele????????
maradonna?????????????
I think not....

Armando
10/11/2005, 3:31 PM
Best player in the Premiership at the moment? Are you insane son?


Dad, is that you?

OwlsFan
10/11/2005, 4:21 PM
Dad, is that you?

:D :D :D