It's Terry O'Venables

[Qwerty]

have to agree but the english bit doesnt help either

The English bit is fine with me, it's the Cockney bit that turns me off.

I don't expect an appointment before Jan and it will be a decent one, I have a feeling Delaney may actually be competent from things I have heard which would be a major step forward.

[dutch]

You're not doing yourself any favours with the above,You can't dis a whole Country like that.
You could be accused of racism.............
i already have and i am a rascist

[eirebhoy]

Just seen Brian Kerr getting out of his car at Merrion Square. Has me wondering what he's up to since there's only the FAI, government buildings and a load of offices up there. Who knows, he's probably off to Grafton street and went for the easiest place to get parking. :)

[the 12 th man]

i already have and i am a rascist


Sad..

[dutch]

gwan away with ye

no rascists in lonford?

longford even

[eirebhoy]

there's an edit button.

[dutch]

oh yeah

[Closed Account 2]

The game has moved on from the last time Venables was a decent manager (about a decade ago). If were talking ex-England managers I'd rather have Taylor (though I wouldnt be that happy about him either).

What about Wim Jansen, Bernd Schuster or Co Adriansee (who looks like he might leave Porto by the end of the season) ?

[geysir]

Just seen Brian Kerr getting out of his car at Merrion Square. Has me wondering what he's up to since there's only the FAI, government buildings and a load of offices up there. Who knows, he's probably off to Grafton street and went for the easiest place to get parking. :)
He is probably returning the only perk that went with the job, the car. I hope he left the tank empty

[NeilMcD]

There is a casino up there maybe he will put lots of money on the next ireland manager. I really would love to see him get a Premierhip job or a high profile job in the 1st Division. I think he deserves a good pay day.

[NeilMcD]

I dont want an English manager and I am not a racist. Its like Utd not wanting an ex Liverpool manager or the Germans not wanting a Dutch manager. They are our nearest rivals and i would hate to be managed by an English manager again. That is my view on it and I love going to the England and I like its culture of Beatles, Monty Python, Led Zeppelin the BBC (mostly). However I do think that we should be managed by an Irish man or else a top top European coach with and Irish assistant.

[Tired&Emotional]

I love going to the England and I like its culture of Beatles, Monty Python, Led Zeppelin the BBC (mostly).


Can someone remind me what year, indeed century, we are in?:confused: :D

[NeilMcD]

Ok I will add the Office, Royal Family and a host of Stand Up Comedians to that list. I think the English have been top class at comedy and pop music over the Years.

[wallis]

well its certainly NOT Venables at the moment - theres no way Paddy Power are going even money on a man who already has the job. Looks like a smokescreen to me , maybe he was contaced and it leaked out. The first weight of money came for him in Cork and not Dublin if that means anything.

I would suggest its the bookies trying to heighten interest in a stale market.

[Tired&Emotional]

Yeah all hype....Hiddink seems to be best of the rest of th Euro coaches, NeilMcD, for me! Though if I had to pick an Irishman it would have to be Keano....!

[NeilMcD]

Are you suggesting I should get the job or have I read that incorrectly. I have to say the FAI have not contacted me and I have not applied for the job. However I am open to offers.

[macdermesser]

Yeah all hype....Hiddink seems to be best of the rest of th Euro coaches, NeilMcD, for me! Though if I had to pick an Irishman it would have to be Keano....!

have to agree ... Hiddink is the man, until he says hes not interested that is. Whether some tanned dutch guy who says "you got to make a good game today and ze play fer your yersey" is going to inspire the lads, I have my doubts. I stuck 2 euro on him yesterday at 25/1.. although this betting on the manager lark is a cod at this stage. All these rumours about dead certs, I don't believe. I got stung badly in 2002 when I read on the predecessor to this forum that Bertie had a jet ready to whisk Roy back to Japan. .. and paddy Powers were offering decent odds on roy playing again.

Maybe Aldo is not a bad idea after all ...

[Tired&Emotional]

Are you suggesting I should get the job or have I read that incorrectly. I have to say the FAI have not contacted me and I have not applied for the job. However I am open to offers.

:D :D ....ya never know, the way the bookies are picking up on rumours at the moment.....I'll head to PP's at lunch time, put some cash down and you might be reading about yourself in the papers tomorrow!

[klein4]

I think it will be a while before we will be rivals with the english again footballwise:( :( :( ....i thought the thing about venebles was that he was good working with top class players......hello....that rules us out.....the bookies lark was the same the last time the job was vacant...who knows what way it will go with the fai....your talking bout an organisation that rejected the most succesfull british manager of all time in favour of some newcastle reject....and didnt that turn out to be a not so bad decision...........lets just wait til thay make a bleedin decision and get behind whoever they pick as manager.....

[OwlsFan]

Who knows what way it will go with the fai....your talking bout an organisation that rejected the most succesfull british manager of all time in favour of some newcastle reject....and didnt that turn out to be a not so bad decision

Isn't it great to be condemned even when you make the correct decision.

The last 3 managers we've had haven't been bad choices. Let's hope whether he's Irish, English, Dutch, German or Burmese, he'll do one hell of a job (providing he's not Dalglish, Venables, Keane or O'Leary :D ).

[geysir]

I don't see that the weight of the wagers of Footie's top punters is having any effect with PP's odds. Except I see MON is creeping quietly back into 9/1 and Venables is slithering out to 9/4.

[Closed Account 2]

Anyone else think Leo Beenhakker (dutchman in charge of Trinidad & Tobago) could be a contender ? If the Trinidadians dont make it through their playoff with Bharain (1-1 after 1st leg at Trinidad) I could see us being able to tempt him over here. Could be worth a go as a cheaper alternative to Hiddink ? Any US based people able to comment on how the Trinidadians have played with him running the show ?

I'd prefer him to "El Tel"

[Noelys Guitar]

Hiddink is getting 850,000 euros approx from the Australian FA for the 2 qualifying matches (its been bankrolled by the 2nd richest person in Australia) so can't see him coming on board no matter what happens with Australia. And he will not give up his day job at PSV. I have seen TandT play a few times on ESPN world and Beenhacker has improved them dramatically. No club commitments but he looks ready to keel over from the chain smoking! But he should definetely be considered.

[Stuttgart88]

I had been wondering where Beenhacker was. Can someone remind me what era he was in charge of the Dutch, and how did they do under him? Anyone got a full full "CV" ?

[Closed Account 2]

He coached Real Madrid in the 1980s or early 90s and also I think he was at Ajax in the 80s, he might have coached the Dutch national side too.

if you're good at Dutch:-

Trainer

Daarna werd hij trainer van onder andere Real Zaragoza, Go Ahead Eagles, het Nederlands Elftal, Real Madrid, Grasshopper-Club, Ajax en Feyenoord. Met Feyenoord werd hij landskampioen in 1999.
[bewerk]

Beslommeringen

In 2000 werd hij technisch directeur van Ajax. Hij ontsloeg daar in 2001 Co Adriaanse en stelde Ronald Koeman en Ruud Krol aan als zijn opvolgers. Hij vertrok in 2003 na privéproblemen, hij had "het gehad met Nederland". Hij ging werken als trainer van Americá, een club in Mexico. In 2004 keerde hij terug in Nederland. Hij wilde graag naar Ajax terug om daar de positie in te nemen van Louis van Gaal. Die had hem in 2003 opgevolgd als technisch directeur. Na een korte periode als technisch adviseur (Graaf Leo) van De Graafschap, werd hij in april 2005 bondscoach van Trinidad en Tobago. Met dat land probeert hij in de Noord- en Midden-Amerikaanse poule het WK te halen.

Hij wordt door velen gerespecteerd vanwege zijn goede omgangsvormen. Hij rookt graag een sigaartje. Bekende uitspraak van Leo Beenhakker: "Ik word hier zo moe van".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Beenhakker

[brine3]

I'm an Ajax fan and I wouldn't like to see Beenhakker as Ireland manager.

When Arjen Robben was 17 years old he was still at FC Groningen and he came knocking on Ajax's door. Don Leo was the "Technical Manager" at the time, i.e. responsible for purchases and negotiations. During the negotiations Robben wanted more money and instead of negotiationg Beenhakker told Robben to get stuffed. So young Arjen and his Dad went off down to Eindhoven and signed for PSV - who later flogged him to Chelsea for loadsamoney. Beenhakker is also the man who fired Co Adriaanse from the Ajax job after only just over a year. Co turned out to be one hell of a manager.

However, it would be interesting to see the look on David Connolly's face if Beenhakker was made Ireland manager. Remember, Beenhakker got into a personal feud with young David and it was he who sent him packing to Excelsior.

Personally I'd like to see Morten Olsen approached for the Ireland job, as I said before. Or possibly Michael Laudrup.

[pineapple stu]

Yayyy...for the fourth or fifth time, betting has been suspended on a managerial candidate.

Must make a mental note to ignore anything in relation to the Irish manager before about January. Everything else, it seems, is either tabloid speculation or deliberately misleading FAI leaks.

[Superhoops]

Yayyy...for the fourth or fifth time, betting has been suspended on a managerial candidate.

Must make a mental note to ignore anything in relation to the Irish manager before about January. Everything else, it seems, is either tabloid speculation or deliberately misleading FAI leaks.
Paddy Power's prices are still up. Seems to have gone cold on Venables, despite reports that he was meeting FAI next week.

El Tel - 3/1, Stan - 3/1, MON - 8/1. Packie must have support, now at 20/1, but Troussier is still at 40/1.

[geysir]

I had been wondering where Beenhacker was. Can someone remind me what era he was in charge of the Dutch, and how did they do under him? Anyone got a full full "CV" ?
Was he not with Holland at Italia'90? Rows splits and spits, lost to West Germany, I suppose that means 100% failure rate. Might also mean he has been wiped out of Dutch national team news archives.

[brine3]

The man has a massive CV. He was never a player of note and started managing in his 20s. (in the 1960s)

Here:
http://www.beijen.net/frank/cvs/beenhakker-l.htm

He's been in management for nearly 40 years at 16 different clubs/countries and has won three league titles with Real Madrid plus two with Ajax and one with Feyenoord.

I don't think he's the kind of guy who could give two proverbials about the development of youth players and the future of Irish football at a domestic level. If he gets bored he'll quit and find another job.

[Jerry The Saint]

He was never a player of note...

Mark Kinsella won't be impressed so. What are his party planning skills like...?

[klein4]

what about bora milutinovic....he got a lot of crap teams to the world cup and did okay with them when he got there....

[pegan]

:confused:

[geysir]

Otto Rehhagel has received a new contract with Greece. I note that the bookies still list the non runners like him and Troussier.

[4tothefloor]

And he will not give up his day job at PSV.
Hiddink is finishing up with PSV at the end of this season AFAIK.

[geysir]

The man has a massive CV. He was never a player of note and started managing in his 20s. (in the 1960s)
Here:
http://www.beijen.net/frank/cvs/beenhakker-l.htm
He's been in management for nearly 40 years at 16 different clubs/countries and has won three league titles with Real Madrid plus two with Ajax and one with Feyenoord.
I don't think he's the kind of guy who could give two proverbials about the development of youth players and the future of Irish football at a domestic level. If he gets bored he'll quit and find another job.
I don't have a clue about his credentials but can he be so easily dismissed?
According to the factfile he has been with Ajax three times and Feyenoord twice. He doesn't burn his bridges.
Its not part of the job to develop the youth structure.
At T&T, he can talk the talk.
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/050429/1/3ka7.html
What about the story when Cruyff, after a time in the US, had just returned to Ajax at the time when Beenhakker was coach. With about 25mins to go, Cruyff could not bear it any longer and left his seat in the stands and came down to stand along the touchline with Beenhakker biting his tongue on the bench. Cruyff started to direct the team who scored 3 or 4 goals to win the game.

[JimmyP]

"El Tel meets Irish party in London"
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/boysingreen/irish_soccer_detail.asp?newsid=19955

Really starting to fill with dread now.
Granted, there may not be a whole out there, but this is the result of "headhunting"? What a joke.

[Superhoops]

"El Tel meets Irish party in London"
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/boysingreen/irish_soccer_detail.asp?newsid=19955

Really starting to fill with dread now.
Granted, there may not be a whole out there, but this is the result of "headhunting"? What a joke.
TV still 3/1 with Paddy Power. Nothing must have come from Friday night's little get together or else someone would have been piling it on. No secrets at Merrion Square!! Still, nice night out in the big smoke for Johnny D, Milo et al on exes.

[pineapple stu]

"El Tel meets Irish party in London"
Source - The Sun. End of that story. Sure it could be business men or random ex-pats the Sun paid to talk to him to get a story.

[geysir]

"El Tel meets Irish party in London"
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/boysingreen/irish_soccer_detail.asp?newsid=19955

Really starting to fill with dread now.
Granted, there may not be a whole out there, but this is the result of "headhunting"? What a joke.
Monday’s Irish Sun... quoting an eyewitness.... reveals that Milo Corcoran was possibly....
You need to use road salt on that report and then whats left is one word, Monday.

[brine3]

so now el tel comes out and says he wants the job (according to sportinglife.com), but also says that he's not going to apply for it, but if he's approached he'll talk.

he's acting the langer already and he's not even in the job

[shakermaker1982]

BBC seem to think he is keen. HELP!!!!

El Tel is a step backwards, he is old (62 OR 63) and not what Ireland need right now. I just hope we are not rushed into anything just for the sake of it, we have plenty of time so why hurry? It isn't as if we have any big games coming up sometime soon. Hiddink I am fine with and I'm sure he will be approached if the Oz don't make it.

[Roverstillidie]

there will quite literally be a riot if he el bung gets the job.

delany out now

[geysir]

He may have put the word out that he is interested and the media have megaphoned it, the bookies took less notice this time and I can't see the FAI being too bothered about him.

[Karlos]

Before chinese whispers starts in on this story, here is what he actually said....slightly different than the headlines I'm reading on the net i.e Tel admits desire to manage Ireland, Tel Wants Job only if the fai call him, Tel: I want Ireland Job etc etc.....these comments can be taken out of context very quickly.

''I'm doing other things now and I've been offered quite a lot of positions,'' Venables told Sky Sports News.

''I've had a great time playing and coaching but if something special came up like Ireland, which is international, it might be interesting.

"I don't know anything about it, only what's in the newspapers. That's the truth.

"There are many rumours but until this moment, I have had no contact from them."

[Superhoops]

He may have put the word out that he is interested and the media have megaphoned it, the bookies took less notice this time and I can't see the FAI being too bothered about him.
Paddy Power cut price from 3/1 to 11/8.

[geysir]

Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
"He may have put the word out that he is interested and the media have megaphoned it, the bookies took less notice this time and I can't see the FAI being too bothered about him."

Paddy Power cut price from 3/1 to 11/8.
Last time they slashed his odds to 1/4.
This time they cut his odds to 1/1 before drifting out to 11/8 yesterday.