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carrickharp
08/11/2005, 7:24 AM
Finally got broadband in the house with www.clearwire.ie it is working very well so far, €29.99 a month anyone else hear of them?
dahamsta
08/11/2005, 10:53 AM
It's been discussed on Boards for quite a while now. Very innovative solution, however their network will very definitely need to be solidified very quickly if they're to avoid another farce like Irish Broadband.
I'll likely be ordering it as soon as it's available in Cork, in conjunction with Blueface VOIP. Then it'll be bye-bye Eircom forever.
adam
Broadband? What's that? :rolleyes: Still sat broadband the only option for me, and even download only is not worth it imo (yet)
Actually Adam, you might know. Someone was telling me some firm has done a deal with the Catholic Church to use their steeple's for wireless broadband. Was he getting my hopes up falsely, or is a miracle about to take place? :D
dahamsta
08/11/2005, 11:15 AM
LOL. It could be true, but I doubt it would go ahead in light of the decision to stop mobile masts being mounted on schools. The same concerns apply (although I don't view them as concerns at all, if it really was a problem people living under RTE masts would be dead long ago). If the people responsible for the stalling of mobile masts don't complain about wireless APs on church steeples, that's a sign of just how much they know about RF technology...
adam
If the people responsible for the stalling of mobile masts don't complain about wireless APs on church steeples, that's a sign of just how much they know about RF technology...
adam
Always the same fookers that give out about their mobile reception too. Thought it'd be too good to be true, bloody catholic church again... :D
As I understand it, the eircom's broadband is crap, but by christ it'd have to be better than dial up. It's one of the area's that even the ardent FF's off this board must see as a total failure. Should never have privatised the company (at all imo but that's a different debate) until the proper infrastructure was put in place.
paul_oshea
08/11/2005, 11:52 AM
As I understand it, the eircom's broadband is crap, but by christ it'd have to be better than dial up. It's one of the area's that even the ardent FF's off this board must see as a total failure. Should never have privatised the company (at all imo but that's a different debate) until the proper infrastructure was put in place.
Eircom are stalling the roll out of broadband on purpose. With voip becoming popular by the minute, eircom have already predicted at least 25% fall in phone revenues within the next two years, so why wouldnt they roll out broadband at a snails pace.
APs- i assume you mean access points?
dahamsta
08/11/2005, 12:02 PM
Eircom are stalling the roll out of broadband on purpose. With voip becoming popular by the minute, eircom have already predicted at least 25% fall in phone revenues within the next two years, so why wouldnt they roll out broadband at a snails pace.Aside from social responsibility - a subject I'm very definitely not going to bother explaining here, because right-wingers just don't have the hearts to understand it and will attack me - how about the fact that if they don't embrace broadband, they're going to slit their own wrists? Have already as it happens, now they're just bleeding out.
EIRCOM is tagged as a SELL right now, despite their rising prices. Eircom has been explicitly told by Citibank that their behaviour is counter-productive. Eircom is acting contrary to the commentary in their own SEC filings. Eircom is slowly, but surely, committing corporate suicide. I just hope no-one cottons on and tried to bandage them up.
Broadband and VOIP are the future, in fact they're tomorrow. Dialup and landline voice are dead in the water. Anyone that tries to cling to them will sink. Blub blub blub.
adam
paul_oshea
08/11/2005, 12:24 PM
i wasnt disagreeing with what you said, i was just trying to say why eirom are acting the way they are.
ya voip is the future, and i meant to say "is becoming MORE and more popular by the minute". the only thing that i see wrong with it at the moment ( well wrong is a bad choice of word) but its very flaky over wireless broadband e.g. connection drops etc.
dahamsta
08/11/2005, 12:55 PM
Oh, I wasn't suggesting you were paul. But the nutty right-wingers are never very far away. Luckily we got rid of the nuttiest.
VOIP is really only flakey on wireless networks that are flakey, i.e. it's the wireless connection that's at fault, not VOIP. There's very few genuine reasons for a flakey wireless network; the Irish ones are just built on the cheap, truth be told. They'll get better.
adam
Eircom are nothing but lieing *******s, when i moved to donegal they said that BB would be "available in my area within one month", when i go to phone the month later, "6 months to a year" waiting for the exchange to be enabled, i cant wait until smart come here, there gonna **** them hard and kill eirscum!!!
But they were honest and told me it would be a while! Ireland i years behind the rest of Europe and its a joke that most people in ireland are still stuck on dial-up! :mad:
carrickharp
09/11/2005, 6:54 AM
So much for home broadband, house was broken into again yesterday laptop was just one of many items that was taken on me:(:mad:
Peadar
09/11/2005, 8:55 AM
A little bit on the background of Clearwire on the Sunday Business Post. (http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2005/10/30/story9241.asp)
Was at the community council meeting and it turns out Broadband due to be rolled out in the new year, thanks to some Government scheme (where if enough people sign up they give a grant). The site hosted by Beecher.net, whoever that is ;) , for North East Wicklow....
Anyway, how is the below in the general scheme of things? Doesn't really matter as it's thea
Home Package Basic: 1mb Download, 512k Upload; 30:1; €35 a month
Gareth
19/11/2005, 11:35 AM
I live in Castleknock. My house is in the main village. Every broadband provider I ring says my phone lines are not on their lists of houses capable of broadband. I can't get cable either, as I have been told they are due to upgrade and Smart are not providing a service to my specific location. Now all that said, I am in my house now on Eircom Broadband, the only non-wireless network that seems to think me able to have broadband in my house? What is the story. I pay far too much for broadband but its a necessity to have due to my line of work. I have a wireless network set up in my house which works a treat but the worst thing of all is I lose DSL connection and I need to lift my phone reciever to get it back (something to do with resistance on the line?). So until I get Cable, I have to live with an Overexpensive DSL from Eircom which disconnects.
Very annoying. (Ironically it disconnected whilst writing this....)
Gareth
19/11/2005, 11:53 AM
KickR sounds like my problem. Are you in an old house, have you multiple phone points? Next time it kicks off, lift the reciever. It could be your house and not eircom.
dahamsta
19/11/2005, 12:10 PM
I have had broadband for about 18 months now with Eircom on a 2mb connection i think no download limitYou do have a limit, however Eircom don't charge for it. Yet. Important difference. Careful now.
Gareth
19/11/2005, 12:33 PM
Home user plus is up to 18 gb or something now....
monkey magic
19/11/2005, 3:14 PM
Eircom are stalling the roll out of broadband on purpose. With voip becoming popular by the minute, eircom have already predicted at least 25% fall in phone revenues within the next two years, so why wouldnt they roll out broadband at a snails pace.
APs- i assume you mean access points?
eircom need to realise that they will not be able to prevent the mass migration to VOIP, they need to start realizing that whatever future they have is in the provision of broadband, if anything with the resources they have they should be concentrating on providing higher capacity broadband as a means of getting a compettive advantage.. what the're doing is suicide, but in saying that, i think sir tony o'reilly and co are just milking the company for whatever they can get and have no real interest in securing the companys future
started using skype recently meself, service is patchy, but as was said, im pretty sure this has a lot to do with my wireless connection.. overall though its simple to use and covers my needs.
a few people have asked me how good is it/how does it compare to other services and tbh i havent a clue.. just wondering was anyone else here using any of the other free VOIP services available, and which would you recommend? someone mentioned blueface or something??
dahamsta
19/11/2005, 8:07 PM
In that case you're using Eircom Enhanced and paying through the nose for it.
paul_oshea
19/11/2005, 8:34 PM
a few people have asked me how good is it/how does it compare to other services and tbh i havent a clue.. just wondering was anyone else here using any of the other free VOIP services available, and which would you recommend? someone mentioned blueface or something?
voipcheap, its deadly its completely free to irish and english landlines. you have to put money on your account though, quality for ringing home as parents arent the most computer literate. saving them a bomb as well.
the problem i have with wirless, is actually feedback with skype it desnt happen with google talk. but with skype its dodgy.
Fair_play_boy
20/11/2005, 12:06 AM
Eircom are nothing but lieing *******sAint that the truth!Three years running, an Eircom rep phoned me up asking if I would like to convert from dial up to BB. About a month before each call, my connection speeds dropped below half of what they usually were, and they returned to their usual "speed" a few weeks later. After year 3 I reckoned it probably was not a coincidence, and challenged the rep who called me about it. He admitted it within a heartbeat, and then went on to tell me where to complain about it. I went through the motions, heard some pretty convincing shock - horror reactions, and promises that "this will be fully investigated" etc. That was two years ago. I took the BT internet offer about 18 months ago and I am delighted with it. Wonkers in Eircom!
dahamsta
20/11/2005, 4:52 PM
That's some bizarre contract you have with Eircom kickR. Can you send on a copy to me please, I've never heard of anyone getting a non-standard contract for DSL with Eircom and I'd like to post the details on Boards.ie.
adam
Dazzy
22/11/2005, 10:10 AM
Aint that the truth!Three years running, an Eircom rep phoned me up asking if I would like to convert from dial up to BB. About a month before each call, my connection speeds dropped below half of what they usually were, and they returned to their usual "speed" a few weeks later. After year 3 I reckoned it probably was not a coincidence, and challenged the rep who called me about it. He admitted it within a heartbeat, and then went on to tell me where to complain about it. I went through the motions, heard some pretty convincing shock - horror reactions, and promises that "this will be fully investigated" etc. That was two years ago. I took the BT internet offer about 18 months ago and I am delighted with it. Wonkers in Eircom!
I am now on a waiting list for Wireless for ehotspot, all they want is 16 names from my area to start a survey etc, 40 euro a month but its cheaper than eircom dial-up, hope amonly on this **** thing until christmas!
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