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superfrank
26/10/2005, 3:42 PM
What about the Sligo keeper? O'Hara?

The few times I've seen him, he's been good.

sligoman
26/10/2005, 3:46 PM
What about the Sligo keeper? O'Hara?

The few times I've seen him, he's been good.Not many of ye on here have seen much of him though so that's why he's going unnoticed unfortunately:(

centre mid
26/10/2005, 3:48 PM
Mick Devine - best

Darren Quigley - Young keeper of the year

Conor H
26/10/2005, 4:02 PM
John O'Hara is a very talented goalkeeper, i wouldn't go as far as saying he has gone unoticed Sligoman, i heard that two or three scottish teams were interested in him and from what i saw of him i was very impressed indeed, he is undoubtably the best goalkeeper in he first division, probably better than most premier division goalkeepers at the moment
What about Goughie?

joeraki
26/10/2005, 4:31 PM
Only going from what I seen on TV... then again thats probably how anyone rates players bar those that watch there own team.

Barry Murphy for me. The one handed save he made in a Shels game (the one that was live) was the best I've seen in a long time. Point blank save where the ball was nearly beyond him. Super stuff

Sam Savic
26/10/2005, 5:39 PM
"A couple of good games isn't enough to give the title to Murphy......"
I suppose it's hard to blame you for a comment like that as you've probably only seen him twice. We would be already relegated without him. He is outstanding every week. He has the safest pair of hands in the league along with exceptional reflexes. The fact that he was Rovers under 21 player of the year last year and in my opinion will be our player of the year this year, speaks for his consistency.

Roverstillidie
26/10/2005, 5:39 PM
just reading this one thing is obvious.
the standard of goalkeeping is exceptional in the EL at the moment, you could pick any one of murphy, devine, quigley, ford, a fit williams, delaney ahead of colgan in terms of ability. i havent seen the sligo lad because the first is irrelevant, and bearing in mind the sligs were telling us that they were up there with brazil circa 1970 a few weeks back, ill take it with a pinch of salt for the moment....
i get the feeling the younger ones may be off to more lucrative pastures soon

eirebhoy
26/10/2005, 5:44 PM
I feel Williams' positioning is poor.

Dyl10
26/10/2005, 6:16 PM
I feel Williams' positioning is poor.

I think thats rubbish as i feel thats the strogest part of his game

Peadar
26/10/2005, 6:21 PM
The fact that he was Rovers under 21 player of the year last year and in my opinion will be our player of the year this year, speaks for his consistency.

From what I've seen of him, he has looked good, but Devine has done more this season to deserve the title of "Best Keeper in the League."

I wish Murphy all the best and I'm certain that I'll see a lot more of him in the Premier Division next season. For now, he's no higher than 3rd best, in my opinion.

OneRedArmy
26/10/2005, 7:40 PM
I feel Williams' positioning is poor.
In fairness its hard to claim a cross from the bench......

sfc red
26/10/2005, 8:09 PM
Or the injury room..muppet

eirebhoy
26/10/2005, 9:03 PM
I think thats rubbish as i feel thats the strogest part of his game
Its certainly woeful for freekicks.

OneRedArmy
26/10/2005, 9:04 PM
Or the injury room..muppet
Is an injury room like a hospital or did you mean to refer to the "treatment table"?

My hazy memory is that he was dropped for the 1st half of the season, then got injured in August.

Dyl10
26/10/2005, 9:17 PM
Its certainly woeful for freekicks.

But im open play have you never noticed that he has the nack of always being in the right place at the right time?

sligoman
26/10/2005, 11:55 PM
John O'Hara is a very talented goalkeeper, i wouldn't go as far as saying he has gone unoticed Sligoman, i heard that two or three scottish teams were interested in him and from what i saw of him i was very impressed indeed, he is undoubtably the best goalkeeper in he first division, probably better than most premier division goalkeepers at the momentNice to see a Galway fan not been biased against us for a change;). When I said O'Hara is going un-noticed I meant with most Premier Division fans. I know most fans of other FD clubs can see he's a top goalie but very few fans in the Premier would have seen him yet so he is going un-noticed. Dundee United were interested in signing him earlier this season, dont know if other Scottish clubs were

Breifne
27/10/2005, 11:32 PM
having seen most teams in both divisions this year, i think the best keepers in the league are

Darren Quigley, Mick Devine, Cullen (Finn Harps), John O'Hara (Sligo Rovers) & James Gallagher has been outstanding since joining Dublin City, except for one blip, he has been as reliable as muck.

Éanna
27/10/2005, 11:54 PM
Quigley and Murphy are both very impressive, and have great futures ahead of them, but Devine is by far the best in the league. I wasn't his biggest fan when he first joined us, but he's got better and better. He's totally consistent, doesn't make mistakes and some of the stops he's pulled off in Europe over the past two seasons have been breathtaking. Short of Given, he's the best keeper available to Ireland right now IMO.

Speranza
28/10/2005, 12:55 AM
Devine made a serious error against Harps when he gifted them a goal. Paddy Kenny is clearly of a higher standard than Devine.

sfc red
28/10/2005, 1:50 AM
Short of Given, he's the best keeper available to Ireland right now IMO

You people really do live on another planet

sligoman
28/10/2005, 1:54 AM
You people really do live on another planetWas thinking the same thing but then that's his opinion so leave him to it I suppose

CollegeTillIDie
28/10/2005, 7:09 AM
You can take it from me, and I know about goalkeeping, Barry Murphy is too good for this league. Would definitely make any team in the SPL and will soon be 2nd keeper to Shay Given.
If Rovers had Murphy at the start of the season and if we had our 8 points back ( I know, I know ) and if we had a sensible manager and if we had another few bob we would be ahead of Shels in 3rd spot. That clown Payne cost us 9 points.:mad:

... and if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle!:D

CollegeTillIDie
28/10/2005, 7:12 AM
Best keeper in the League: Michael Devine (Cork City)
runners-up: David Forde( Derry City), Darren Quigley( UCD), Barry Ryan (St.Pat's)
Best new keeper in the League: Barry Murphy (Shamrock Rovers)

The Stars
28/10/2005, 1:03 PM
Banana is the best keeper...

Éanna
28/10/2005, 1:21 PM
Plus, he has the funniest run in the world! :D
boing boing boing

monutdfc
28/10/2005, 1:26 PM
As usual, these discussions are difficult because (1) you usually only see other teams' 'keepers 2 or 3 times a seaon at most and (2) club loyalty makes peoples' views inbalanced.
Kildare County had the Kildare GAA Under-21 'keeper in goals against us earlier this season and he was outstanding. Absolutely superb. Had a good game in Monaghan a couple of weeks ago too. (Until Foyser lobbed him from the halfway line:) )
O'Hara from Sligo played well in Monaghan earlier this season too.

Risteard
28/10/2005, 10:18 PM
It is true kickR, iHo.
Unless you've a portal inside the head of Eanna and can reveal his secret self-denial and love for Dan Connor.

Réiteoir
28/10/2005, 10:23 PM
Michael Devine tbh

Dick Long
28/10/2005, 10:38 PM
Devine... the best keeper in the league for a good 10 years. Going back to his time with Waterford - who paid a record 5-figure sum to take him from Cobh (in pounds and about 9 seasons ago). In our first season up last time around he virtually kept us up on his own as he kept 7 or 8 clean sheets in a row as we won every game to finish out the season and lift us up to about 5th from bottom spot. Naturally, he was always prone to one or two howlers per season in the best Peter Schmiechel tradition. Super keeper, super keeper. Much respect.

Conor H
28/10/2005, 10:42 PM
Devine... the best keeper in the league for a good 10 years. Going back to his time with Waterford - who paid a record 5-figure sum to take him from Cobh (in pounds and about 9 seasons ago). In our first season up last time around he virtually kept us up on his own as he kept 7 or 8 clean sheets in a row as we won every game to finish out the season and lift us up to about 5th from bottom spot. Naturally, he was always prone to one or two howlers per season in the best Peter Schmiechel tradition. Super keeper, super keeper. Much respect.
Devine looked very dodgey on both occassions when we played this season so i personally can't see how he is the best around for 10 years.

dfx-
28/10/2005, 10:58 PM
Quigley and Murphy are both very impressive, and have great futures ahead of them, but Devine is by far the best in the league. I wasn't his biggest fan when he first joined us, but he's got better and better. He's totally consistent, doesn't make mistakes and some of the stops he's pulled off in Europe over the past two seasons have been breathtaking. Short of Given, he's the best keeper available to Ireland right now IMO.

:confused: Anytime I've watched Cork I never notice Devine.....You could say well that's proof, but I don't think so. That shows that many teams get few chances against Cork....that is a separate issue to being the best keeper. It's easy to stand there with the best team in the league, not make mistakes and kick the ball out from a pass back every so often.

However what I deem to be the best keeper is one who you know that if you are holding desperately for points, you know your keeper is good enough at holding out, irrespective of the pressure. Anyone who've seen Murphy will know that any hit and hope balls in the last minutes are dealt with by him so that tactic is going to be useless against Rovers. So it makes the opposition think hard and think again.

Compare that with Payne who couldn't keep his hands on the ball and I think you'll have to agree that simply that talent is better than not being noticed during matches.

I'll again quote my dad who is a sleeping fan whose last match was away at Bray and he said, not having seen him before, that he is the best keeper they've had since Milltown. I had no worry that we would hold on at Bray...at Waterford.......at home to UCD etc - all tight matches.

Murphy has the talent - shotstopping (Longford travelling fans might remember the shot through a load of players at Dalymount at 3-2 amongst countless others), catching(most important and invaluable, imo) and the presence in his box. Are all these three things not the true standard on which keepers should be judged?:confused:

Therefore I can only see him as being the complete goalkeeper already. The question now remains is whether he can keep that level and what level he is at. I am therefore convinced that he is the best keeper in the league.

Not just on saves at a higher level (i.e. Europe), but consistent outstanding performances in a relegation team where he won't get recognised the prospect of low confidence with a heavy defeat. I honestly rate him so high that if he were to be out for the rest of the games, I would expect the play-offs or seriously worry about bottom.

For anyone who seriously doubts, I ask of the characteristics you need to be the best keeper over the whole league season. What talents do you judge the best keeper on? A good few saves across every level or one with undoubted technical ability along with saves to match anyone? :)

Sam Savic
29/10/2005, 12:38 AM
Murphy is the most exciting player in the League. When could you say that about a goalkeeper. Some of his saves are breathtaking. A real perfectionist with so few faults in his game.

ThatGuy
29/10/2005, 1:17 AM
Sorry where are Rovers in the league? No surprise that your keeper looks so good with so much practice. Come back when he has some experience with a good team.

pineapple stu
29/10/2005, 1:52 AM
:confused: Anytime I've watched Cork I never notice Devine.....You could say well that's proof, but I don't think so. That shows that many teams get few chances against Cork....that is a separate issue to being the best keeper.
Actually, one of the best aspects of being a goalkeeper is that if you do your job properly, you won't have any work to do at all. The best keeper is the one who organises his defence so well that nothing comes through to him.

pete
01/11/2005, 12:09 PM
Until Barry Murphy proves himself at better team than Rovers (less attention in relegation struggle) & in Europe i don't see him as contender.

Quigley made a few schoolboy errors against Derry last night which certainly made me question his position in U21 squad.

pineapple stu
01/11/2005, 12:20 PM
Quigley made a few schoolboy errors against Derry last night which certainly made me question his position in U21 squad.
Just the second goal really. A complete once-off (on the basis that I've never seen him make a mistake like that before) Made a couple of superb stops before that, and was good in the air as usual.

At least he didn't drop the ball from his hands when trying to roll it out like another keeper who was playing!

Dodge
01/11/2005, 12:21 PM
Has anyone picked any keeper other than their own here?

ps bohs
01/11/2005, 12:29 PM
You can take it from me, and I know about goalkeeping, Barry Murphy is too good for this league. Would definitely make any team in the SPL and will soon be 2nd keeper to Shay Given.
If Rovers had Murphy at the start of the season and if we had our 8 points back ( I know, I know ) and if we had a sensible manager and if we had another few bob we would be ahead of Shels in 3rd spot. That clown Payne cost us 9 points.:mad:

SWEET JESUS :rolleyes:

bigmac
01/11/2005, 12:40 PM
Has anyone picked any keeper other than their own here?

A few of the Waterford fans have picked Devine, despite the fact that he plays for Cork. He's a keeper that we saw a lot of when he played with us and he was definitely worth a few wins a season.

pineapple stu
01/11/2005, 12:42 PM
I think actually most people are going for the same three - Devine, Quigley and Murphy.

pete
01/11/2005, 12:58 PM
Has anyone picked any keeper other than their own here?

Before this season i would have choosen Williams.

Block G Raptor
01/11/2005, 1:43 PM
has to be matt greg...........just ask any cork city fan :D :D :D :D

Student Mullet
01/11/2005, 1:46 PM
Just the second goal really. A complete once-off (on the basis that I've never seen him make a mistake like that before) Made a couple of superb stops before that, and was good in the air as usual.

At least he didn't drop the ball from his hands when trying to roll it out like another keeper who was playing!There was also an incident in the first half where the ball seemed easy enough to catch but it bounced off him back into play.

sfc red
02/11/2005, 10:37 AM
Yeah, Barry Ryan by a mile