Republic of Ireland v Hungary - Saturday, 6 September 2025 - 2026 World Cup Qualifier

[Diggs246]

Ok no panic!

[SkStu]

Fair! That said, we could play a bit of ball under Charlton at times too (only at times, mind). The USSR game was the famous one, but I watched the infamous Norway 94 game over covid and was struck by how well we played in midfield (but were toothless in the last third). We've refined it a bit for sure - Kelleher wasn't lumping it up to the edge of the box for example - but there's a definite comparison there. And I posted earlier about a spell shortly after Hungary had the red card and how it felt like that Wembley game in 1991 - the sustained pressure clip that's often shown. It was very similar. Ball in the box, up for the challenge, the opposition clear, we win it back on half way and into the mixer again - no time for a breather for them, and we kept at it for 2-3 minutes. Just continuous pressure.

As osarusan said "against a team of a certain quality and below, that's enough to rattle them, and it rattled Hungary" - and it's also rattled Serbia, Azerbaijan and Denmark in the past few years too. I'm fine with that. And yeah, you look at sides like Georgia, say, and wonder how they can play such technically adept stuff and we can't. But there's more than one way to skin a cat.

(Actually, I'm seeing now you've gotten rid of your sig about rock and roll football - the second half last night might have been the first time we've really seen it under HH, and it minded me to go look for it)

One thing we do need to change - and I don't know how much we should really read into this - is that in eight of HH's nine competitive games so far, we've conceded the first goal. Finland at home was the only exception. Be nice to buck that trend on Tuesday.

I like that 1991 comparison a lot actually. I’ll allow the jury to hear the testimony. :)

[MancIrishWolf]

This was tried repeatedly under Kenny though and it didn't work at all. We ended up with three centre backs marking one central striker while other opposition attacking players were given all the time in the world to beat us down the wings and ping 30 yarders past Gavin Bazunu from outside the D, because our players were in the wrong parts of the field to stop it happening. And Paddy McCarthy's more recent efforts to set us up in a 3-4-3 before HH came along were similarly unsuccessful. We don't need to play three centre backs just because we have a lot of centre backs playing at a high level - it's a waste of a player really.

My view is that you actually have to think counterintuitively at times to solve problems. So if your problem is left back, you don't just solve it by not playing a left back, you put the best one you have in there (likely Manning) and make sure he's protected by a centre back and a defensive midfielder.

Similarly if your problem is in centre midfield, rather than just conceding the area you put a third man in there and win it through numbers because no two man combination we can play there will ever be good enough.

Feel the reason it didn’t work previously is that Kenny’s team invited pressure on themselves (possibly the manager’s nervousness transmitting through to the players), so it becomes a back five (the 30 yard strikes were amply a relying sitting too deep / defensive ineptitude from not closing down quick enough). If three at the back is played offensively / in a counter attacking manner like Palace, Wolves (of last season), Brentford & Forest have used it, it can be very effective. Especially, if under the tactical instruction for a Centre Half to step out to support the midfield against weaker teams, as Collins can do and has done for Brentford.

We have no natural flat four full backs in the squad, apart from a bunch of converted wingers like Manning & Ogbene, so should use them like Munoz, Ait-Nouri, Semedo & Aina have been used at their respective clubs. All for playing a back four, however our midfield are too weak - 3-5-2 gives us much more cover in the centre, both defensively & offensively, whilst using the flanks as outlets

This is where HH is over-complicating things, by sticking square pegs into round holes, when he should be using the materials at his disposal, rather than trying to turn us into an Irish version of Pulis’s functional Stoke team with regimented positioning, rather than high pressure counter attacking playing to our strengths.

[rebelmusic]

Not at all, I was saying Heil Heimar! (I'm hoping someone draws the parallel with Hans Moleman here).
I've no issue with anyone of colour, creed or nationality.

Hahhaa the Hans Coleman reference is amazing. "I was saying Boourns" :D :D

[pineapple stu]

I like that 1991 comparison a lot actually. I’ll allow the jury to hear the testimony. :)
Well Exhibit I is below. 22:30 to 25:30 - 12 crosses into the box, four key 50/50s won to get back possession, England with two touches in our half.

I don't know is the full match from Saturday anywhere? I'd expect it to be a little bit less agricultural in fairness!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfM-uqSKbV0

[mark12345]

Feel the reason it didn’t work previously is that Kenny’s team invited pressure on themselves (possibly the manager’s nervousness transmitting through to the players), so it becomes a back five (the 30 yard strikes were amply a relying sitting too deep / defensive ineptitude from not closing down quick enough). If three at the back is played offensively / in a counter attacking manner like Palace, Wolves (of last season), Brentford & Forest have used it, it can be very effective. Especially, if under the tactical instruction for a Centre Half to step out to support the midfield against weaker teams, as Collins can do and has done for Brentford.

We have no natural flat four full backs in the squad, apart from a bunch of converted wingers like Manning & Ogbene, so should use them like Munoz, Ait-Nouri, Semedo & Aina have been used at their respective clubs. All for playing a back four, however our midfield are too weak - 3-5-2 gives us much more cover in the centre, both defensively & offensively, whilst using the flanks as outlets

This is where HH is over-complicating things, by sticking square pegs into round holes, when he should be using the materials at his disposal, rather than trying to turn us into an Irish version of Pulis’s functional Stoke team with regimented positioning, rather than high pressure counter attacking playing to our strengths.

Systems, formations, personnel. I try to look at the way great teams play and ask why can't we at least try to emulate them. Best team I've seen this year is PSG. What did they do well? They played with extreme precision and extreme speed. How did they hit those heights? They obviously got on the training ground and started off slowly, putting an emphasis on precise passing and movement of players (ie get away from your marker in order to provide a passing option for the man in possession). They perfected that slowly and then pushed their individual limits to speed up their play and still be effective. Did Ireland's coaching staff do anything like that or even think of it before Saturday? Don't think we'll match PSG any day soon but if we don't try such things nothing will change.

[SkStu]

Systems, formations, personnel. I try to look at the way great teams play and ask why can't we at least try to emulate them. Best team I've seen this year is PSG. What did they do well? They played with extreme precision and extreme speed. How did they hit those heights? They obviously got on the training ground and started off slowly, putting an emphasis on precise passing and movement of players (ie get away from your marker in order to provide a passing option for the man in possession). They perfected that slowly and then pushed their individual limits to speed up their play and still be effective. Did Ireland's coaching staff do anything like that or even think of it before Saturday? Don't think we'll match PSG any day soon but if we don't try such things nothing will change.

Well the first thing they really did was get a big fat cheque book out and hoover up a lot of top talent. Not really something we can do...

[Stuttgart88]

I think the point about square pegs and round holes is important. I can see the theoretical merit of picking Doherty at left back (experience) but apart from Portugal away I can’t really remember ever being happy with his performance there. And more often than any other player I’ve been underwhelmed by him, regardless of where he plays. He pulls a rabbit out of the hat every now and again and that plants the thought back in your mind that he warrants a place. But right from the start on Saturday he looked off it. Collins was too (stage fright?) and he was at left sided centre back, where he has looked clumsy previously. Gary Breen always says he looks much better at right sided CB. Given O’Shea’s ability to improvise at left back I’d have thought he’d be the better of the two to play left sided. I also think Collins should have buried that O’Brien cross mid-second half btw, adding more merit to Idah’s goal – you can’t score if you don’t get it on target! So that’s two individuals that were below par and in positions they’re not natural at. I was sceptical of recalling Brady at LB last year but he was a real breath of fresh air, showing how being well balanced is really important. It was such a great feature of Mick’s 2002 team.

But, yet again, the source of our first half general crapness was the total absence of a midfielder constantly demanding the ball. Is it really about numbers and formations? Cullen only ever wanted it in safe positions and I don’t think Knight and Azaz showed much bravery with the positions they took. That left us only able to push the ball wide or long. We played it wide, then back inside then back to Kelleher repeatedly. We never managed play through their lines, only wide of their lines. The extra man allowed us to keep doing this but with the advantage of being able to generate overlaps.

In the interest of improving our balance I’d go with a back 3 of O’Brien, Collins and O’Shea tomorrow, with Ogbene and Manning as wing backs. Or maybe keep O'Brien wide right and bring Scales in as left side of the back 3.

Just as an aside, I was really surprised our opener stood. It looked like Collins smashed his opponent in the face and I was sure it’d be overturned by VAR when I saw the replay on the big screen. I’ve seen them given as they say. I think HH’s assessment of the ref was correct: he was really annoyed with Hungary’s time wasting and theatrics and it felt to me that the marginal calls were going to go our way as a consequence.

[passinginterest]

I had no problem with Doherty at left back. I think he's been very solid when he's had to play there. My logic was that it forced him to be more focussed as he wasn't comfortable and so he was less prone to being too casual on and off the ball. Unfortunately, it was the worst of both worlds on Saturday. As has been pointed out, Collins beside him suffers a bit from the same malaise and they seemed to drag each other down. It's like they're so focussed on being cool and calm that they actually lose all sense of urgency. Both come across as needing someone in their ear constantly to get the best from them, and that's something this squad really lacks (maybe a larger symptom of the modern game, I think being loud on the pitch is coached out of young players).

After the first 15 minutes, whether Hungary backed off or being 2-0 down just forced some urgency things did start to improve. It took the best part of 40 minutes to get a couple of balls in to Ferguson, but once he got a few touches he showed he's sharp again. I'd agree with others that Azaz was frustrating, he'd make a good move find a bit of space and then just lose the ball sloppily. Manning had a great game, I think he's had issues in the past with focus, tactical awareness, discipline and couldn't win the trust of coaches, but he seems to have matured and brought his game to another level now. I can see why Kelleher got man of the match too though, he did make three crucial saves and was good overall.

Smdozic was very quiet and can't see him starting too many more games for us. Cullen was ok, I don't think he works well with Knight and there's a serious lack of physical presence with them beside each other. Knight is more dynamic but wouldn't trust him as a pure defensive midfielder. Cullen can pick a pass, but doesn't do it often enough. It's a shame Lawal isn't getting more game time in midfield because he does seem to have the physicality and defensive strength to be an asset there, but he's not getting enough time there at club level and it would have been asking too much to throw him in for such a critical game. If we're sticking with the same formation I'd like to see him start in Azerbaijan.

I still love Ogbene and what he brings, his attitude, pace, aggression are such assets. He won a couple or brilliant headers and put in a few ok balls too. It would be amazing if his final ball was better, but that's why he'll never be elite level, but he gives us something completely different and his versatility is an asset too. Hopefully he stays fit and has a good season. Delighted for Idah, I still think he has all the assets, but was really doubting if it was going to click. Not saying it'll suddenly all come good now, but with a fresh start and a bit of confidence maybe now is going to be his time. Although funnily enough, I spoke to someone who is very familiar with him and Johnny Kenny and he said he'd pick Kenny over him any day of the week and that Kenny has a higher ceiling.

Overall, it does seem like the fragility of the squad is still there. It's something Kenny couldn't iron out and HH seemed determined to fix it but yet they look worse at the start of games that ever. Kenny sides seemed to start well and fade, whereas HH sides seem to concede first and get better (although that's probably the better option I suppose). A win is essential on Tuesday for hope to linger on in any case.

[tetsujin1979]

I don't know is the full match from Saturday anywhere? I'd expect it to be a little bit less agricultural in fairness!
It's on RTE player

[Razors left peg]

I havent been through the thread so apologies for rehashing this if its already been discussed, but was anyone else frustrated at how one dimensional we were in that second half. It was just crosses after crosses and very little attempt to mix it up to create shots. I was losing my mind watching that 2nd half. We did get the goals in the end, but with the domination that we had, especially after the red card, we should have won the game.

The first half was so bad I was questioning why I even bother watching anymore tbh

[elatedscum]

Feel the reason it didn’t work previously is that Kenny’s team invited pressure on themselves (possibly the manager’s nervousness transmitting through to the players), so it becomes a back five (the 30 yard strikes were amply a relying sitting too deep / defensive ineptitude from not closing down quick enough). If three at the back is played offensively / in a counter attacking manner like Palace, Wolves (of last season), Brentford & Forest have used it, it can be very effective. Especially, if under the tactical instruction for a Centre Half to step out to support the midfield against weaker teams, as Collins can do and has done for Brentford.

We have no natural flat four full backs in the squad, apart from a bunch of converted wingers like Manning & Ogbene, so should use them like Munoz, Ait-Nouri, Semedo & Aina have been used at their respective clubs. All for playing a back four, however our midfield are too weak - 3-5-2 gives us much more cover in the centre, both defensively & offensively, whilst using the flanks as outlets

This is where HH is over-complicating things, by sticking square pegs into round holes, when he should be using the materials at his disposal, rather than trying to turn us into an Irish version of Pulis’s functional Stoke team with regimented positioning, rather than high pressure counter attacking playing to our strengths.

I really think 3-5-2 (basically 5-3-2) requires so much work on the training ground and realistically, are there any really good sides in the world using it right now? We got torn apart by Greece. they just got 2v1s constantly out wide with the fullback overlapping and pushing high, to the extent that we ended up having to pull both centre midfielders and centre backs out there to try cover gaps. If teams exploit it well, I don't think defensively you end up with more players in central areas. And then once teams are in the lead, which they often are with us, they're so comfortable just dropping deep and leaving max 1 player high and you end up with 2 redundant centre backs and teams can toy with us and control the game and it's difficult for us to press effectively and really influence the game.

You saw on Saturday when the coaching staff were trying to convey to the players that they didn't need to keep funnelling back into a shell when we were chasing the game and had a man extra and we could press. That was fairly obvious and shouldn't have taken 10 minutes to get across - in an ideal world they should know, if they've lost a man and we're chasing the game, you press more aggressively but there's a lack of time on the training ground these days. Uefa have cut the time by several days where an international camp with end on either Sunday, Monday or Tuesday and previously it was almost always Wednesday. Add in a standard 2 day recovery time post match which is now normal and you end up with very little real work on the training ground. When we've played 5-3-2, it's always struck me how difficult the players find it to know when for example the wing back needs to take a winger or a full back, when a centre midfielder needs to cover out wide to take the fullback if the winger is deep, when the centre forward needs to drop in the midfield to cover the midfielder who has been pulled out, when the right sided fullback needs to come across. You end up probably needing 5 players all to make the right decisions and to communicate well to each other and more often than not, it's looked like a system which we don't fully understand, whether that's down to coaching, time or the players...

[elatedscum]

Re the Cullen yellow I really think he was unlucky and that the ref thought he was Szmodicz.
Cullen did nothing wrong there whatsoever

I also think the only reason they got involved at all was worrying about VAR and the player getting in the referee's ear or the sense being created that it was an unjust decision. Cullen in fairness to him was involved in the situation that got the player riled up and then sent off.

[Fixer82]

Szmodicz out

Josh Honohan called up

[elatedscum]

And just on the individuals, and as poor as Doherty was, Collins was worse. His first action in the game was to balloon a diagonal ball over the head of O’Brien – the tallest player on the pitch. His second action was to miss Doherty with a simple pass across the backline. The resultant throw-in started the sequence of play for the opening goal. Doherty was too slow coming out after clearing the ball, but where’s the communication and organisation from Collins? No heads up to O’Shea that the player he was tracking on the ball Doherty had cleared had drifted in behind him. The second goal is on Collins – that’s his area of the box and his man that scores unhindered. Hungary could have had a third goal in the first half – again loose marking on the part of Collins with their striker missing a free header on goal.

We have so many good options at CB …

This is all true. For the first goal, it starts with the Collins pass to Manning which loses possession then Doherty should probably get up quicker after the header but I don't understand why O'Shea and Collins rush out leaving Doc in behind. Schoolboy stuff about getting out together if Collins and O'Shea can't see Doherty then he's too deep behind them and they can't push up without playing the striker onside. Just watch Doherty in isolation. The header takes him back on the six yard line and he does get up 6 yards in the 1-2 seconds before the ball comes back in. He'd need to run to get back in line and then his whole momentum would be going away from the goal - whereas if O'Shea and Collins just hold for a second for Doc to recover, then O'Shea can just clear that ball.

For the second, Collins most at fault for both the corner giveaway and the man who wins the header. He also had a few attacking headers which he missed the target with. It's tough though, he's an excellent footballer and on his day, he's a top centre back. It'd take a brave man to drop him.

[Razors left peg]

This is all true. For the first goal, it starts with the Collins pass to Manning which loses possession then Doherty should probably get up quicker after the header but I don't understand why O'Shea and Collins rush out leaving Doc in behind. Schoolboy stuff about getting out together if Collins and O'Shea can't see Doherty then he's too deep behind them and they can't push up without playing the striker onside. Just watch Doherty in isolation. The header takes him back on the six yard line and he does get up 6 yards in the 1-2 seconds, before the ball comes back in, he'd need to run to get back in line and then his whole momentum is going away from the goal - if O'Shea and Collins just hold for a second for Doc to recover, then O'Shea can just clear that ball.

Collins most at fault for both the corner giveaway and the man who wins the header. He also had a few attacking headers which he missed the target with. It's tough though, he's an excellent footballer and on his day, he's a top centre back. It'd take a brave man to drop him.

Maybe he the weight on the captaincy drags him down in a green shirt? Hes too inconsistent for us

[elatedscum]

Doherty at LB is an absolute nonsense. He's a centre-half now. Have courage and play Manning there.

Cullen and Knight, whilst being our two best CMs on paper, aren't complementary for some reason. I'd bring Taylor in, probably for Knight.

Of course, Molumby should be an option.

Leaving Molumby, Ebosele and Coleman out was stupid.

Let's be honest, there is absolutely no way that Phillips (in St Mirren, playing for the equivalent of a L2 side) would hold down a regular place in a Championship promotion-chasing side like WBA.

I would probably bring Johnston in for Szmodics.

Personally think it was a mistake not to have Molumby, Ebosele, Coleman, McGrath, O'Dowda in the squad. In terms of midfielders, when we were chasing the game, I didn't want Phillips who looked poor on his debut coming in in that environment - and it would have been a lot to ask Lawal to make his debut chasing the game and expect him to add creatively. With both Molumby and McGrath, you basically know what they'll give you. Neither Azaz nor Cullen had a good game and Knight tired and you basically just had Taylor on the bench as a somewhat viable midfield option. We were able to bring on attacking players because the of the sending off (Idah and McAteer) but you that's not something you can plan for.

[elatedscum]

Szmodicz out

Josh Honohan called up

Presumably due to ease of access. You can't tell me that if Manning goes down injured, and we're not winning that we'd rather have Honahan coming on over say O'Dowda. And that's no slight on Honahan. It just struck me as, ah he's in Dublin, we can just get him on that same flight with everyone else. With O'Dowda, 'we'd need to arrange everything and he probably won't play anyway, just take Josh'.

But if you want a LB/LWB, you're taking O'Dowda and if you want a like for like replacement and add a winger to replace Szmodics then Ebosele is the option and if you want an out and out attacker, Cannon comes in and if you want someone who can play between the lines, it's McGrath. I just don't see a situation where Honahan is the first choice for this particular squad on sporting merit alone.

[Stuttgart88]

Ebosele’s omission was odd given how much impact he had at Wembley.

[pineapple stu]

Personally think it was a mistake not to have Molumby, Ebosele, Coleman, McGrath, O'Dowda in the squad.
Which five do you leave out in that case? Kenny, Phillips,...?

[Stuttgart88]

I havent been through the thread so apologies for rehashing this if its already been discussed, but was anyone else frustrated at how one dimensional we were in that second half. It was just crosses after crosses and very little attempt to mix it up to create shots. I was losing my mind watching that 2nd half. We did get the goals in the end, but with the domination that we had, especially after the red card, we should have won the game.

The first half was so bad I was questioning why I even bother watching anymore tbh I think it worked though. I’m watching Scotland at the moment. All they’ve done so far is manufacture crossing positions and they’ve been easy to defend.

Gary Breen was saying on Indo Sport podcast that there are days as a CB you’re happy for crosses to keep coming in but Hungary’s defenders wouldn’t have felt that way on Saturday. There was real pressure and there were real chances, Collins’ probably the biggest. As said above, it really felt like mid-first half in Wembley 1991, a passage of play that’s now part of folklore.

I think Hungary would have been very happy for us to try to play differently.

Edit: Scotland have just broken down a stubborn low block….with a cross and two big lads combining!!

If it works, use it. When all else failed under Kenny and even Mick, Duffy often bailed us out.

[Razors left peg]

I think it worked though. I’m watching Scotland at the moment. All they’ve done so far is manufacture crossing positions and they’ve been easy to defend.

Gary Breen was saying on Indo Sport podcast that there are days as a CB you’re happy for crosses to keep coming in but Hungary’s defenders wouldn’t have felt that way on Saturday. There was real pressure and there were real chances, Collins’ probably the biggest. As said above, it really felt like mid-first half in Wembley 1991, a passage of play that’s now part of folklore.

I think Hungary would have been very happy for us to try to play differently.

Scotland have just broken down a stubborn low block….with a cross and two big lads combining!!

If it works, use it. When all else failed under Kenny and even Mick, Duffy often bailed us out.

Theres no denying that it worked because we got 2 goals from it, but do you not think that if we varied it a bit more it might have worked out better? I was frustrated watching because I thought we made poor decisions at times when better passes were available.

[SkStu]

for the last 35 mins, the game was played with 20 plyers in the Hungary half for most of it. Playing through the middle wasn't an option and the second goal came from a lovely bit of play to work the ball from right to left - nice passing, good movement. We moved the ball from back to front well a lot of the time - can only recall two times we lumped it - easy enough when the press was as non existent as it was. I had no problem at all with what we did. I'm not sure what the variety would have been to be honest.

[elatedscum]

Which five do you leave out in that case? Kenny, Phillips,...?

First the initial squad should be larger whether that's down to the FAI or Heimer. But Jimmy Dunne is a name that comes to mind straight away along with Phillips, Kenny and now Honahan. There's obviously fitness doubts over both Coleman and Ogbene but I'd want them all there contributing and fighting for places.

[Razors left peg]

for the last 35 mins, the game was played with 20 plyers in the Hungary half for most of it. Playing through the middle wasn't an option and the second goal came from a lovely bit of play to work the ball from right to left - nice passing, good movement. We moved the ball from back to front well a lot of the time - can only recall two times we lumped it - easy enough when the press was as non existent as it was. I had no problem at all with what we did. I'm not sure what the variety would have been to be honest.

Some shots from edge of the box instead of pumping it in everytime? It just felt like we were just hoping something would land to our players rather than us picking out a player most of the time, youre right that the 2nd goal was nice play.

BTW I just had a look through the thread and see some criticism of Idah for celebrating instead of grabbing the ball. Im sorry but thats just madness, the whole place exploded

[pineapple stu]

First the initial squad should be larger whether that's down to the FAI or Heimer.
Well, fair, yep - though you have to cut that back to 23 for matchday anyway.

Honohan yep - though from the original squad that's really Sammie. I wouldn't be too worried about McGrath - or even Coleman at this stage, sad to say.

It does seem an unbalanced squad though, with too much up front and nothing in midfield (so Molumby for Kenny seems almost obvious)

[Fixer82]

On the Collins captaincy, I would have Coleman around the squad even as the off-field captain. I think he brings a good energy to the group and I’d not have minded him on the right with O’Brien at CB and Doherty dropping out. (Or even Doherty and O’Brien swapping).

Collins had a shocking first half

[rebelmusic]

Has any journalist ever asked him about the 23 man squad stuff? Would seem like an obvious question to ask. We should bomb text the off the ball lads on it

[jbyrne]

BTW I just had a look through the thread and see some criticism of Idah for celebrating instead of grabbing the ball. Im sorry but thats just madness, the whole place exploded

yes, someone else grabbed the ball from the net straight away anyway. Idah going to the crowd "wasted" about 10 seconds at most. gave the rest of the team a chance to get a bit of composure back for one last assault for the winner

[Stuttgart88]

Just on the point of how we were one-dimensional in Saturday’s second half, this is what HH said:

Ireland v Armenia: Aerial attack is still smartest gameplan for Ireland – The Irish Times (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/2025/09/09/why-ireland-should-rinse-and-repeat-portugal-plan-of-peppering-armenia-with-shots/)

“If you tactically analyse the spaces Hungary closed,” Hallgrímsson explained, “they were really compact. And as the game progressed, they got more and more into protecting the front zone. So, the way into the box was outside and in. That was the best way. We tried to go inside, through the middle, but it was really compact. They secured that area.”

“We had first contact from 80 per cent of those crosses and should have dealt with it a little better. Did we create them problems? One hundred per cent. If we continue doing that, I think we will improve.”

“I know 40-plus crosses is an unusually high number in a game but that is what we wanted to do,” he added. “We have physicality and strength in the air so it is one of the weapons. If we have 40 or more crosses in a game, we will probably score more goals. In [that] game, it didn’t happen. Are we happy with that way of playing? One hundred per cent.”

I think it’s a fair assessment. It’d be nice to see more variety tonight and maybe an away match will throw up a different type of game.

So far our goals under Halgrimsson have been:
2 v Hungary – set piece second ball / header from cross
1 v Senegal – corner, cleared, we win second ball and cross, header off bar, McAteer scores rebound
2 v Bulgaria at home: Ferguson after a through ball / Idah after a cross from Sykes – but the build-up was mainly central
2 v Bulgaria away – Azaz header after a deep cross / Doherty header after a longish through ball
1 v Finland at home – Ferguson header from a Johnston cross
2 v Finland away – Scales header from a cross/set-piece / Brady volley from a Festy cross

My recollection of the home games v Senegal and Bulgaria is that set pieces and crosses were where we generated most chances. I think O’Brien had a few headed chances.

So mainly headers and mainly crosses, often from or immediately after set-pieces! Arguably only Ferguson’s equaliser v Bulgaria was a “normal” goal.

[ifk101]

“I know 40-plus crosses is an unusually high number in a game but that is what we wanted to do,” he added. “We have physicality and strength in the air so it is one of the weapons. If we have 40 or more crosses in a game, we will probably score more goals. In [that] game, it didn’t happen. Are we happy with that way of playing? One hundred per cent.”


Crossing has a low statistically success rate. And as much as HH says he wanted us to put crosses in, Hungary wanted us to do that as well for that reason. What Hungary did was textbook for all teams in a similar situation – compress the middle, push them wide. For me, Idah’s goal came from us drawing them out of position. See how Johnston shaping up for a shot drew one of their defenders out – that was the key to the goal, the space that (variety) created.

[brine3]

Up a goal and down to ten men, it's exactly what the Hungarians wanted us to do. And they nearly pulled it off as well, with the equaliser coming so late. And we also needed Kelleher to bail us out at the other end.

I look forward to Troy Parrott coming back into the fold, he's making great runs for AZ Alkmaar.

[tetsujin1979]

I rewatched the second half on the RTE Player. Manning really was the best player on the pitch, and Kelleher was really important, but Ferguson ran them both close. He was playing too deep to really get an effective shot away, but his movement, passing, and how he occupied the defence was excellent. We need to find an effective striker to partner him.