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Longford Town vs Cork City
Where: Flancare Park
When: 7.00pm, September 18, 2005
Match odds:
Longford Town: 9/4
Draw: 9/4
Cork City: Evens
Referee:
I. Stokes (Dublin)
Top scorers:
Dave Mooney - 5 (4 with Shamrock Rovers) John O’Flynn - 8
Team news:
Stephen Paisley is a doubt with a groin injury, so could be replaced by Danny O’Connor, who returns after serving a ban. Team news will be confirmed by Saturday evening.
Recent form:
Longford Town
Sept 9, 2005: Derry City 3-1 Longford Town
Sept 2, 2005: Longford Town 3-0 Waterford Utd
Aug 30, 2005: UCD 2-1 Longford Town
Cork City
Sept 15, 2005: Slavia Prague 2-0 Cork City
Sept 9, 2005: Cork City 3-0 Bray Wanderers
Sept 3, 2005: Finn Harps 2-3 Cork City
Previous meetings:
Jul 5, 2005: Cork City 0-1 Longford Town
Jun 24, 2005: Cork City 0-0 Longford Town
Mar 31, 2005: Longford Town 0-1 Cork City
Oct 19, 2004: Longford Town 1-2 Cork City
Oct 11, 2004: Cork City 2-0 Longford Town
May 21, 2004: Cork City 1-0 Longford Town
eleven-a-side.com verdict:
Longford to dent Cork’s title aspirations. 1-1
Not to optimistic about it.We havnt bet cork in the league in a long time.
Digger
Dan Barry Dillo Prunty
Martin Cawley Davy Baker
Keego Mooney
Not to optimistic about it.We havnt bet cork in the league in a long time.
Digger
Dan Barry Dillo Prunty
Martin Cawley Davy Baker
Keego Mooney
No not to confident about it either I'd say 0-2 or 1-2
Hopefully I'm wrong
daithi
18/09/2005, 8:11 AM
Ohh ye of little faith!!! Maz, I'm surprized at ya.....
It would be great the do them over and listen to them rant and rave about us not playing good football ect.... Whingin git's!! :p
Ohh ye of little faith!!! Maz, I'm surprized at ya.....
It would be great the do them over and listen to them rant and rave about us not playing good football ect.... Whingin git's!! :p
Oh don't get me wrong, I would love that to happen, I just cant see it happening!
Wiseguy
19/09/2005, 8:53 AM
0-0, good second half with the game their for the winning for both sides so i was a bit disapointed we didn't collect all 3 points but a draw was a fair result.For a team that are top of the league they didn't bring as many fans as i thought they would and it's now over 300 minutes since they've scored against us so that's a plus.
Dessie played well as did the back 4 and Shay.I suppose no one had a bad game but Kirbs wasn't at his best.IMO Alan should have brought on Mooney for Keego with 20 mins left to try and get the win as Keego looked fcuked and Mooney isn't afraid to take people on.
Mooney for Keego with 20 mins left to try and get the win as Keego looked fcuked and Mooney isn't afraid to take people on.
You’re right; the fresh legs were needed in the last twenty. Not one of longfords players even looked like they were confident enough to score and maybe he was the man for the job. It looks worrying, who is capable of scoring, the strikers?
Thought longford were doing well in the middle of the second half, but then seemed to settle for a point before the end when they could have pushed on and gone for it.
Wiseguy
20/09/2005, 9:07 AM
Thought longford were doing well in the middle of the second half, but then seemed to settle for a point before the end when they could have pushed on and gone for it.
I think we did settle for a point because at one stage i looked down at the Dugout and Alan was indicating with his hand to Shay Kelly to relax and take his time where he should have been telling him to get another attack going.
Éanna
20/09/2005, 10:51 AM
I think we did settle for a point because at one stage i looked down at the Dugout and Alan was indicating with his hand to Shay Kelly to relax and take his time where he should have been telling him to get another attack going.
Yeah, and forgive me for bringing it up again ;) , but this is really the only argument I have with LTFC- IMO, if Matthews had allowed it, ye could have won the game, but he's just too negative. For all the times I've been accused of hating Longford or slagging them off- its not that, I just hate Mathhews attitude, and that was a perfect example of it. Ye deserve a better manager.
Wiseguy
20/09/2005, 11:59 AM
Yeah, and forgive me for bringing it up again ;) , but this is really the only argument I have with LTFC- IMO, if Matthews had allowed it, ye could have won the game, but he's just too negative. For all the times I've been accused of hating Longford or slagging them off- its not that, I just hate Mathhews attitude, and that was a perfect example of it. Ye deserve a better manager.
The thing with the Matthews issue is that this guy has won 3 trophies for the club and has established us as a premier division side.His longball tactics annoy the b0lox out of a lot of people but he has made us a good side and when we play we are as good as anyone (except we can't score).At the end of the day the decision lies with the chairman and he won't sack a successful manager no matter who else wants him out.Alan suits because he is part time and we suit him because we're part time.
Pablo
20/09/2005, 12:06 PM
The thing with the Matthews issue is that this guy has won 3 trophies for the club and has established us as a premier division side.His longball tactics annoy the b0lox out of a lot of people but he has made us a good side and when we play we are as good as anyone (except we can't score).At the end of the day the decision lies with the chairman and he won't sack a successful manager no matter who else wants him out.Alan suits because he is part time and we suit him because we're part time.
All valid reasons to keep him agreed. It wont attract to many through the turnstiles though?
themull69
20/09/2005, 1:39 PM
The thing with the Matthews issue is that this guy has won 3 trophies for the club and has established us as a premier division side.His longball tactics annoy the b0lox out of a lot of people but he has made us a good side and when we play we are as good as anyone (except we can't score).At the end of the day the decision lies with the chairman and he won't sack a successful manager no matter who else wants him out.Alan suits because he is part time and we suit him because we're part time.
Thats all fair enough but I for one don't consider this a succesful season. We have such great potential. We lost too many games because we sat back or hoofed the ball and generally played bad football against poor teams. I just feel frustrated to think that we could be ahead of Shels if we won those games that we lost because we just played crap football. Just think about it for a minute...da game against Linfield that knocked us out....The game against Carmarthen....league games like last away game to Bray for example. I really think don't think Alan is the man to get us back on track and hopefully win a league title or a cup.
Wiseguy
20/09/2005, 4:24 PM
I try not to get involved in the Matthews In Matthews out argument because as i have already posted he has brought incredible success to this club and has given us a great footing to move forward.I think we need an out & out 15 or 20 goal striker and then see how we get on and how we play then consider whether Alan is the man for the job or not.Too many people have knee-jerk reactions after bad results and need to let the dust settle instead of calling him and the players fcuking useless w4nkers.
Although i believe that poor performances have kept people away this season i do think that summer soccer is our biggest downfall.People need to look at the bigger picture to realise that we are having a good season.We went out of the FAI cup to UCD after a replay who we should have hammered on the night never mind the argument about the fact that it was a poor refereeing decision that had us in the replay in the 1st place.
We went out of the semi final of the league cup to Derry City in the Brandywell.No shame in that.
We fcuked up big time in europe but it was a freak performance and a freak result.
We are currently 4th in the table ahead on merit of Bohs,Drogs,Pats and Rvrs.
All one can really hope for is some form of improvement each season which we have got.We won't win any trophies this season but if we finish 4th in the league it would be great.
I try not to get involved in the Matthews In Matthews out argument because as i have already posted he has brought incredible success to this club and has given us a great footing to move forward.I think we need an out & out 15 or 20 goal striker and then see how we get on and how we play then consider whether Alan is the man for the job or not.Myler?! I know I'd be delighted if we could sign him.
Longfordian
20/09/2005, 5:00 PM
Put Myler six yards out in front of goals he'll bury it, put him 18-20 yards out and that's more of a problem. He's not got a lot of pace left. However, the service in to him is poor generally, our wingers dont get it in early enough most of the time. Kirbs in particular dwells on it too long sometimes, though he was releasing it earlier on Sunday and did well I felt. Mooney looks a good prospect plus Barret is almost back, we've missed him.
Myler?! I know I'd be delighted if we could sign him.
Make us an offer.... If we signed Ruud he wouldn't hit a barn door once he pulled on the red and black..... :rolleyes:
A successful season this year is going to be based on league performance. People can't judge that until the end of the season.
[QUOTE=Longfordian]Put Myler six yards out in front of goals he'll bury it, put him 18-20 yards out and that's more of a problem. He's not got a lot of pace left.QUOTE]
We'll we'll gladly take him back if you're not going to play him ;)
Wiseguy
21/09/2005, 8:50 AM
The problem with Myler is that when the backs are to the wall he seems very lazy.There is no doubt about it he has great ability and if he has the ball at his feet he's class but over in Wales he just didn't want to know.I feel he still has something to offer but i don't make the decisions so that's that.
max power
21/09/2005, 3:09 PM
Make us an offer.... If we signed Ruud he wouldn't hit a barn door once he pulled on the red and black..... :rolleyes:
A successful season this year is going to be based on league performance. People can't judge that until the end of the season.
have to agree with all of that. also a 15-20 goal striker costs MONEY any idea of how to pay him or a signing fee ??????
Wiseguy
21/09/2005, 4:21 PM
have to agree with all of that. also a 15-20 goal striker costs MONEY any idea of how to pay him or a signing fee ??????
We have to try across the water for one it seems the only answer.Also if we really want to be successful we will need a good striker so the money needs to be got somewhere.
Why is the grass so long at Flancare? Seemed unduely garssy on Sunday & made passing on the ground slower.
:confused:
Longfordian
21/09/2005, 5:10 PM
We have to try across the water for one it seems the only answer.Also if we really want to be successful we will need a good striker so the money needs to be got somewhere.
One major disadvantage is that we're not full time so players in England are less wiling to come. In some cases, Alan Mathews apparently tried to bring in some young lads on loan but the players' clubs wouldnt loan them to us as they wanted them to be training full time
Why is the grass so long at Flancare? Seemed unduely garssy on Sunday & made passing on the ground slower.
:confused:
passing? At Flancare? :confused: ;)
Wiseguy
22/09/2005, 9:14 AM
passing? At Flancare? :confused: ;)
You'd be surprised
max power
22/09/2005, 4:45 PM
there are signings on the way, that much i know.....people (including alan ) are working hard behind the scenes to secure players for next season.......
Tallanted
22/09/2005, 5:33 PM
No doubt he is after a few more defenders. Because thats the only tactic he knows. He is a joke, its terrible to watch and this is reflected in the crowds. People are losing patience
themull69
23/09/2005, 7:47 AM
No doubt he is after a few more defenders. Because thats the only tactic he knows. He is a joke, its terrible to watch and this is reflected in the crowds. People are losing patience
Afraid I have to agree. The same old defending tactics just isn't good enough. We need strikers.
observer
23/09/2005, 9:54 AM
If Alan is looking to sign players for next year does it mean a major cleanout of the existing squad is on the way? With attendances as they are it would appear that the existing wage bill will have to be reduced not increased.
Tallanted
23/09/2005, 5:27 PM
We need a manager who knows how to play football. Grill me for saying it if you like but I know I am not alone on this
max power
24/09/2005, 1:19 PM
No doubt he is after a few more defenders. Because thats the only tactic he knows. He is a joke, its terrible to watch and this is reflected in the crowds. People are losing patience
listen you have an agenda, even talking to you in person its the same. you just dont like alan, and no neither of he players i am on about are defenders.
max power
24/09/2005, 1:20 PM
We need a manager who knows how to play football. Grill me for saying it if you like but I know I am not alone on this
no your not, you and your little group just sit there at games commenting on every little thing he does and just complain even when we win.......
Tallanted
24/09/2005, 4:39 PM
your right i don't like alan but thats not the point. if we do well i will say it but were not and that isnt just a fans point of view either. there is more to it than meets the eye. I don't have a little group either were not in school now were we seperate into groups and give ourselves groupie names! ou can't say anything at town games anymore without been ridiculed by some idiot like you who is offended by every little thing. i don't agree with abusing players but if they aren't playing well then they have to be able to take some criticism. they are playing the wrong sport otherwise
your right i don't like alan but thats not the point. if we do well i will say it but were not and that isnt just a fans point of view either. there is more to it than meets the eye. I don't have a little group either were not in school now were we seperate into groups and give ourselves groupie names! ou can't say anything at town games anymore without been ridiculed by some idiot like you who is offended by every little thing. i don't agree with abusing players but if they aren't playing well then they have to be able to take some criticism. they are playing the wrong sport otherwise
you are not well
you have not got a clue
you are in need of help
you do not watch football
you do not understand football
you should go back to school
ypu are a F**L
Tallanted
26/09/2005, 11:55 AM
see ther you go thats the problem with town fans narrow minded and no ambition. Bandwagon jumper?? 17 years goin to watch it now not goin to jack it in now, i,ve been there true thick and thin. Back in the day when you could voice an opinion without people getting on your back. when you don't take someones opinion well you resort to calling them bandwagon jumpers. its the real fans who are getting driven away and the players that made this club that are gettin treated like s**t. fans like me??
don't make me laugh, i was in abbeycarton when we were nobodies and i will be in flancare if the goin gets tough so don't say im a fair weather fan or a bandwagon jumper. im a town fan true and true and if you knew what i knew you wouldn't be happy either.
:eek: :eek: Not doing well ?? You are some bellend. Bandwagon jumping, whiny, moany, spoiled child. If you don't like it, just don't watch it. Don't go. Plain and simple. Why don't you just follow Chelski or Boca Juniors or something? Its 'fans' like you we can do without - you will jump ship when the goin' really does get tough. And then you'll go back to supporting some bull**** team playing in a different league miles away.
Fairweather gob$hite.
Not allowed have his own opinion, no?
Tallanted
26/09/2005, 1:39 PM
no apparently not on longford forums, if they don't like your opinion you get called a fairweather fan or a bandwagon jumper. what makes me laugh is its usually a bandwagon jumper who throws these petty insults. all i'm gonna say is you know my opinion (thought thats what the forum was for?) and i'm gonna leave it at that otherwise it will turn into a slaggin match which is off the point
max power
26/09/2005, 2:04 PM
ok lets keep it on track then, where do you feel we should go for players, englend etc, how do we bring in the extra revenue to pay these players and who do we bring it instead of alan then ????
and 20 yrs following the club, so we are in the same boat no matter what you may think.
Tallanted
26/09/2005, 3:03 PM
The standard of football is better of course because we have better players. we have the best squad we have ever had. we don't use the tactics to suit them. for god sake be honest we defend defend defend and hope we might nick a goal. good teams catch us out. it has been proven many times this season. particularly in recent weeks. both derry games, ucd caught us out aswell. we don't play attacking attractive football. it gets pointed out by other teams players,by other fans, by tv pundits and in the papers too. i can't see how people are happy to sit there watching us draw nil all or get beaten. we are only fourth because of our defensive play.
max power
26/09/2005, 3:09 PM
while i see your point tallented, do you think that things would be better if you added a 15 - 20 goal a season striker ?? add our defence to a decent striker and you have a winning formula, there are a couple of signings being worked on at the mo and if one of them comes off you'll be rather suprised
Bray try to, Pats try to, Bohs definitely do, Drogs do (not always admittedly), Harps try to. What irritates me is the fact that LTFC are (by virtue of the excellent players they have) capable of playing a lot better than they do, but they just don't do it.
Bray try to, Pats try to, Bohs definitely do, Drogs do (not always admittedly), Harps try to. What irritates me is the fact that LTFC are (by virtue of the excellent players they have) capable of playing a lot better than they do, but they just don't do it.
Bull****!Didnt want to get dragged into another one of these pointless debates but i have to make a point.You and the other LTFC cork experts see Longford play 4 times a year.There have been plenty of times when we have played good football.2 seasons ago(remember when you werent giving out about our style of football)ye were beating us 2-0 everytime we met.Did it every cross your mind that we have learned our lesson and tightened up when playing ye.Ye are a tecniquely better team,9/10 if we try and compete with ye on the ground,ye'll win.A few weeks ago we went up to derry and tried to play it on the ground and we got whopped.Why is it that ye are so concerned about how we play against ye.Ye've got a huge game in 2 days,ye are challenging for the league and the cup but ye all seem abit to upset that we have found away to get points of ye.If we hoofed the ball for 90 mins in our games against ye but still lost 2 or 3 nil would ye still complain,somehow i doubht it! :rolleyes:
while i see your point tallented, do you think that things would be better if you added a 15 - 20 goal a season striker ??
Yeah, we should sign someone like Myler - you know that fella who used to play with Athlone...
We have the goalscorers, we create the chances, they can't hit a barn door in red and black. The only one who did was hated by the stand, and not rated by Matthews so at least they were in agreement for once....
Bull****!Didnt want to get dragged into another one of these pointless debates but i have to make a point.You and the other LTFC cork experts see Longford play 4 times a year.There have been plenty of times when we have played good football.2 seasons ago(remember when you werent giving out about our style of football)ye were beating us 2-0 everytime we met.Did it every cross your mind that we have learned our lesson and tightened up when playing ye.Ye are a tecniquely better team,9/10 if we try and compete with ye on the ground,ye'll win.A few weeks ago we went up to derry and tried to play it on the ground and we got whopped.Why is it that ye are so concerned about how we play against ye.Ye've got a huge game in 2 days,ye are challenging for the league and the cup but ye all seem abit to upset that we have found away to get points of ye.If we hoofed the ball for 90 mins in our games against ye but still lost 2 or 3 nil would ye still complain,somehow i doubht it! :rolleyes:
Don't bother, they don't do reason in Cork since they started genuinely challenging for the title.
max power
28/09/2005, 8:27 AM
macy, myler is a top player but he has lost pace, keegan can out run him, ok he can score but only if he stands in the one position and doesn';t have to move,
the other striker you are on about, is that francis ??? if so how many has he scored since he went to kildare ??
macy, myler is a top player but he has lost pace, keegan can out run him, ok he can score but only if he stands in the one position and doesn';t have to move,
Yeah, but that didn't stop him for drogs. Just something about us being destined never to have a decent goalscorer... :(
Yeah it was Francis I was on about, not really arsed if he did it or not in Kildare, he had a pretty good return for minutes played for us. Just a pity he never got a significant run in the team. One of Matthews few mistakes imo (others keeping Lavine for so long, the Liam Kelly loan signing and now Shay Kelly's signing)
[QUOTE=max power]macy, myler is a top player but he has lost paceQUOTE]
Did he ever have any :eek:
Myler very rarely needed to use his 'pace' for us
Wiseguy
28/09/2005, 12:00 PM
[QUOTE=max power]macy, myler is a top player but he has lost paceQUOTE]
Did he ever have any :eek:
Myler very rarely needed to use his 'pace' for us
It's not just his pace,his work rate wouldn't be up to scratch either and his whole attitude seems to be a lazy one.
observer
29/09/2005, 3:58 PM
I presume Max if these surprising signings you mention are to happen, there has to be a serious clean out of existing strikers as the finances of the club are fairly stretched from what I can gather. What players are for the high road? Dessie Baker and Andy Myler would top my list. What is the story with Shane Barrett?
Tallented my friend ive been there done that worn the t-shirt.But It seems if you dont agree with these bunch of unknowledgable and ambitionless god$hites you are wasting your time.
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