Oily gets off lightly again

[Buile Shuibhne]

Gareth Farrelly had a similar - 50m from the pitch / dressing rooms 2 hours before +1 hour after ban - last week, but I think I read on Gypoweb that he sat in the Jodi Stand for thr Bohs Vs Rovers game. There was talk of Bobby Best taking a photo of him?

[EnDai]

how many times did rovers get their paperwork wrong. once. huge changes followed.

how many times have oily/fenlon/collins been warned by the el/fai? dozens of times. what changes? f uck all, they do it again and again because its the culture the shelbourne fans allow at their club.

i have never come across fans as brainwashed as shelbourne's. they will defend oily et al regardless of what the bully boy thug does. so he keeps going on doing it.

Wrong? You forgot the "deliberately" in the first question, it was not a mistake. It was thought out and implemented by those in charge. Admittedly they are now gone, but at the time they represented Shamrock Rovers FC, and as a result Shamrock Rovers were punished.

You'll find many Shelbourne fans don't agree with his actions, but in this particular instance many (who btw, witnessed the bloody incident, unlike most here) beleive his innocence, on this single charge. Noone's defending any previous incidents from what I can see. And sorry to say it, but Drogheda's fans word doesn't count for much to me on the incident after the "incorrect" press statement that video evidence showed was false. But hey, beleive what you want, but next time you want to brandish certain sets of supporters "brainwashed" try to look at everything as a whole rather than any biased views you may have.

:)

[Roverstillidie]

i agree on the 50m nonsense. who is and how is that to be enforced?

endai, persistant, repeat offending of any offence can ultimatly lead to a point deduction. warnings and small fines were laughed at. if a record fine doesnt sort oily out, then he will have to be hit harder.

he is not the victim in all this, regardless of the briogaid dearg cheerleaders bleatings

[EnDai]

In this "incident" he may very well be innocent.
Overall I believe he needs punishment, and he has received a huge fine, only time will tell. However the suspended points deduction idea seems to make sense, but thats not down to us to decide now is it?

[tiktok]

I think a points deduction would certainly be wrong in this case, but If Fenlon, Collins and Byrne continue to act as they have been all season(s!) despite receiving Red Cards, touchline bans and heavy fines then it gets to the stage where the FAI should punish the club as a whole rather than an individual.

These three have repeatedly been warned as to their future conduct, and now severly warned as to their future conduct, there comes a point when Shelbourne FC (including the fans) as a whole is going to have take responsibility for their turning a blind eye to this.

I have a lot of time for the vast majority of Shels fans that I've met, but it constantly surprises me how blind they are to the damage these three men, (on the field Collins in particular) are currently doing to their club.

They're certainly not attracting sponsorship or new fans.

Not that anyone will listen to me, but Ollie should be removed as CEO, his talents shouldn't be lost to the club, but as we get more professional you need a slicker, more PR friendly face at the club (something I know all about as CCFC don't have a PRO either which I think hurts us very badly). Retain him, but stop giving him free rein.

Collins should get the sack immediately, it would take his shadow off Fenlon's shoulder and Nutsy could get back to being the sole influence on that team, while your results might not improve immediately, your standard of football and on-field discipline certainly would.

Fenlon is probably your clubs best asset at the moment, can't believe some of you want shot of him.

Cue: Shels fan's attacking me

[EnDai]

Noones going to attack you tiktok, (we don't know where you live! ;))! Most Shelbourne fans hate Ollies actions (and Nutsys discipline!), and recognise the damage it does, but we have no choice really as both do wonderful things for the club too.

Perhaps it will take a serious serious penalty imposed to hit home for them.

Nutsy is God, no more to be said on that front! At least you agree! ;) :D

[Macy]

Shels fan in points deduction for off field activity is wrong shocker!!!!!!

Pity Oily didn't think so a few years ago when Shels had something to benefit from it....

[TheOwl]

Tittok - Damn right we’ll attack you, you did, after all write, an article entitled “Ollie Byrne Football Hooligan” did you not?

As for my opinion, I would think it would be great if Ollie past on the reigns to somebody with a bit more professional experience of working in the modern business world.

A lot of people slag off Shels for our small support, but I firmly believe that Shelbourne have the ability to become the biggest club in Dublin if marketed properly. We have lodged ourselves in the minds of non-EL football fans over the last few years with our performances on the field, both domestically and in Europe.

Even football fans who don’t follow the league, can probably name a few Shelbourne players, but we have never really been able to tap into this fact and get people to games or attract commercial investment.

I just don’t think Ollie has the ability to direct Shels to the next level, I think, to coin an old cliche, he has “taken the club as far he can.”

However, Shelbourne are what they are today because of Ollie Byrne, he deserves to be the one to make the decision about his own future.

Other fans can claim we have been “brain-washed” and are blind to his behaviour, but if we went the opposite route and started calling for his head their would be another group of people calling us I
ungrateful b*stards.

Comparing Ollie to the clowns who ran Rovers almost into the ground is particularly ludicrous.

Ollie is someone who saved a club and built it up from dust, not someone who destroyed one. Dare I say it, but the 400 club could learn a lot from him.

As I said before though, I think it is time for somebody else to take charge, Ollie could still attend every game and cheer the team on, and would forever be a hero at Tolka.

I can’t see this happening, but don’t except Shels fans to start calling for his head either, we’ve had far too many great days since Ollie took over to do that, we owe the man too much.

[tiktok]

Tittok - Damn right we’ll attack you, you did, after all write, an article entitled “Ollie Byrne Football Hooligan” did you not?

I'm hoping that's tongue in cheek :o

[Frankfurt Hoop]

Dare I say it, but the 400 club could learn a lot from him..

You're joking, right?

[Éanna]

I see what you're saying, but the fact is that Oily has had this coming to him and there seems to have been an attitude on his part that he could do what he likes and get away with it because the authorities didn't have the bottle to bring sanctions against him. The whole idea behind the severity of this fine is to MAKE SURE he never does anything like this again. At least now we all know he hasn't been warned!
I agree that he's had it coming to him, but rather than doing it this way, they should have punished him a couple of years ago instead of just warning him. If this had happened the whole thing might have been nipped in the bud instead of getting to where it is now, i.e. more bad publicity. No denying he deserved massive punishment, but it should have been handled better.

[Buile Shuibhne]

Thanks to the ever helpful and informative Andy Needham in the el Office - he just cleared up any confusion about the extent of Ollie's ban:

He's banned from the dressing room area and playing area.
i.e. he can sit in the stand and watch the matches but he can't go onto
the technical or pitch area, nor can he be around the dressing room area.

[Macy]

He's banned from the dressing room area and playing area.
i.e. he can sit in the stand and watch the matches but he can't go onto
the technical or pitch area, nor can he be around the dressing room area.
So basically all the places he shouldn't have really been anyway? :D

[manic da hoop]

He's banned from the dressing room area and playing area.i.e. he can sit in the stand and watch the matches but he can't go onto
the technical or pitch area, nor can he be around the dressing room area.

I thought that that rule applied right accross the board anyway in relation to anyone other than players, technical staff and match officials. Other than in exceptional circumstances why should anybody other than the above be permitted into these areas anyway?

[EnDai]

Well, Ollie's not allowed on them for the next 4 weeks... rejoice...! :P

[Colm]

He's banned from the dressing room area and playing area.
i.e. he can sit in the stand and watch the matches but he can't go onto
the technical or pitch area, nor can he be around the dressing room area.

So he's not actually banned from anywhere he shouldn't be anyway.

[Buile Shuibhne]

The offices in Tolka are adjacent to the dressing rooms under the new stand. Probably the same in other grounds. Club directors usually go into / use these areas before during & after games - say even for the half-time cup of tea?

[Roverstillidie]

well if he misses his half time cup of tea im satisfied with the punishment!

[Slash/ED]

Shels fan in points deduction for off field activity is wrong shocker!!!!!!

Pity Oily didn't think so a few years ago when Shels had something to benefit from it....

Pity Pats f*cked up and caused all that, entirely their fault and that's where the blame and anger should lie. Dolans web of lies after never helped anybody either, but no change there. The difference between that incident and this was they were the rules. If there was a rule about saying points should be deducted for what Fenlon and the rest did, then it'd be a good analogy. There isn't, it's not.

[Jerry The Saint]

He's banned from the dressing room area and playing area.
i.e. he can sit in the stand and watch the matches but he can't go onto
the technical or pitch area, nor can he be around the dressing room area.

Surely he's more of a threat to public safety if he's forced to stay in the stand! :eek:

I think the FAI should reverse this ban. I mean literally reverse it.



Shelbourne Secretary Oliver Byrne must remain on the playing area at all times for one hour before, during and for one hour after all matches.

[Vitruvian Man]

If he got a 2 grand fine for much ado about nothing with the Drogs PRO what's he going to get for the big dukaroo with Roddy. Not to mention offering straighteners to Bohs fans earlier inthe season.

Who ever writes the FAI press releases must absolutely hate Ollie. How many descriptive adjectives are there in the English language anyway - he's going to have to make up his own soon enough.

Ollie has been sternly warned about future behaviour
Ollie has been severely warned about future behaviour
Ollie has been strongly warned about future behaviour
Ollie has been hypersupermongiously warned about future behaviour.

[Éanna]

If he got a 2 grand fine for much ado about nothing with the Drogs PRO what's he going to get for the big dukaroo with Roddy. Not to mention offering straighteners to Bohs fans earlier inthe season.

Who ever writes the FAI press releases must absolutely hate Ollie. How many descriptive adjectives are there in the English language anyway - he's going to have to make up his own soon enough.

Ollie has been sternly warned about future behaviour
Ollie has been severely warned about future behaviour
Ollie has been strongly warned about future behaviour
Ollie has been hypersupermongiously warned about future behaviour.
:D :D :D Brilliant!