France (H) match discussion thread

[gustavo]

ill start this thread so people can put in score updates etc when the match starts , ill reopen it then:)

[gustavo]

teams
ireland

given
carr
dunne
cunningham
o shea
roy keane
kilbane
reid
dufff
keane
morrison

france

coupet
sagnol
thuram
boumsong
gallas
makelele
vieira
dhorasoo
zidane
wiltord
henry

[gustavo]

6 mins gone still 0 0

[gustavo]

8 mins gone great free by zidane even better save by given! morrison booked out of cyprus game:(

[gustavo]

andy reid just knocked a free off the post :O

[gustavo]

great interplay between duff and oshea led to a shot by keane which was deflected for a corner which was cleared.

[Irish_Praha]

we are loking the better team so far. they have only had the ZZ free kick we have had 3 0r 4 decent chances.

[Irish_Praha]

we are loking the better team so far. they have only had the ZZ free kick we have had 3 0r 4 decent chances.

Typing too fast so i dont miss any of the game :p

Still 1-1 in the swiss game BTW ;)

[gustavo]

duff done well to get a free on the left was rolled to carr deflected for a corner. we are doing well enough duff needs to get in the game more.

[gustavo]

poor tackle by keane on makelele hes out of the cyprus match , snapshot by vieira not too far away.

[gustavo]

3 1 to the swiss now.HT at lansdowne

[dancinpants]

3 1 to the swiss now

Thats a result now lads.

[gustavo]

2nd half under way duff finally gets to run at his man has a shot but nothing came of it .

[dancinpants]

1 Switzerland...... 8 4 4 0 17 6 16
2 Israel.............. 9 3 6 0 13 9 15
3 Rep of Ireland... 7 3 4 0 11 4 13
4 France............ 7 3 4 0 8 1 13
5 Cyprus............ 8 1 1 5 7 14 4
6 Faroe Islands... 9 0 1 8 3 23 1

Heres how it stands at the mo!!!

[gustavo]

not much happening at the moment , keane nearly got clear but poor ball by reid.never been his biggest fan but roy keane has been brilliant so far.

[dancinpants]

Norn Iron 1-0 England :eek:

[gustavo]

disasterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. defensive shambles allows henry to curl one from 20 yards :( 1 O FRANCE

[dancinpants]

Bye bye Germany :(

[Irish_Praha]

Phuck!!

Great finish though

[Irish_Praha]

can't tell from this sh!te feed if Clinton is looking knackered yet or not. Time to take him off and put elliott on or maybe go route 1 with Dot?

[gustavo]

Clintons off for Doc Killer off for Harte

[Irish_Praha]

just put dot and harte on - for kilbane and morrisson - presume hrte at LB and O'Shea will move to MF and doc up front?

[CollegeTillIDie]

Bye bye Germany
It's all over now
won't even make the play-offs at this rate.
Cannot see France, the Swiss and the Rabbis all screwing up at this stage.

[dancinpants]

Bye bye Germany
It's all over now
won't even make the play-offs at this rate.
Cannot see France, the Swiss and the Rabbis all screwing up at this stage.

Have to agree, can't even see us beating the Swiss TBH. Hate to drag it up again but had we been able to hold a fcukin lead we could've easily afforded this defeat. :mad:

[Irish_Praha]

Thought we played pretty good. Well as good at them anyway, a draw would have been the fair result.

[gustavo]

Full time Ireland 0 France 1

[CollegeTillIDie]

They didn't play all that badly.... just not enough of our so called class players played exceptionally well.... Duff a major disappointment for one.

We are 4th now. At this rate we will do well to finish 3rd in the group.

[gustavo]

So we lost , where do we go from here?

[dancinpants]

1 Switzerland...... 8 4 4 0 17 6 16
2 France............ 8 4 4 0 9 1 16
3 Israel.............. 9 3 6 0 13 9 15
4 Rep of Ireland... 8 3 4 1 11 5 13
5 Cyprus............ 8 1 1 5 7 14 4
6 Faroe Islands... 9 0 1 8 3 23 1

Looks awful. Where do we go from here? Christ knows, but it doesn't look like it'll be Germany.

[Metrostars]

Just win the last two games and we're in the playoffs. How many more chances does Kerr get. He should have qualified us for Euro 2004, he had the chance the last two games but didnt. Has had numerous chances this World Cup qualifying campaign but didnt. Even if we do qualify for the playoff and then lose he should be out.

[ramondo]

It looks like if we win the next two games against Cyprus and Switzerland we finish at least second on 19, as Israel can only get a max of 18...??

[Closed Account 2]

Our best hope now is for the French to win the group and us to go for 2nd place. If the French beat the Swiss and we win our 2 matches we'll be going for 2nd place with Israel, but it doesnt look good at all, and we'll find ourselves in tricky group for Euro2008 as well.

[thejollyrodger]

yeah and France have to beat Switzerland...

I dont know if we can beat the cyprus without Roy Keane and Reid

[superfrank]

I think we're going back to the dark old days when the North did better then us!

[Plastic Paddy]

If we fail to qualify then Kerr must go. He's had a multitude of chances. End of story.

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[Adrianovic]

I'm not quite sure where to post this, so if any admin want to move it or close it or whatever, do what you have to... bugger someone got one up before me, sorry!

Well, it was one of those games you either win 1-0 or you lose 1-0. In the past Ireland have won a lot of games like this, and tonight we lost one. The difference was the class in Thierry Henry's boot, to be able to offer absolutely nothing all game, then one kick of class.

Its so hard to take the team to pieces over it, they worked so hard and came so close - but just lacked that cutting edge in the final third. For a game where both sides dominated at different stages, it is surprising how seldom the keepers were made to work. France did so twice all night, once for Shay's amazing save, and the other when they got one in. We didn't really offer that.

Around the pitch, I thought we were superb in the first half and not too bad in the second, but just lacking that final ball. Roy Keane controlled the game in the middle, Andy Reid justified his selection twice over and Kenny did the quiet things that no-one really notices. I felt that Clinton and Robbie worked hard up front, but were often quite isolated as a result of KK being tied up with other central midfield duties, and Duff not really featuring as much as he might.

As I type this I increasingly wonder what we did in the second half. The answer as I'm sure you are all aware is, bugger all. Sometimes when Duff isn't at the races Ireland really struggle for spark. We needed his run to get everything going, that run he had, what if he'd ran it into the area and either got collected by the static centre half, or had a better shot? What if Robbie had ran on a bit more before shooting? Ahh its going to eat at me.

I don't even want to think about the consequences of tonight. Its all slipped away from us.

Ade

[Closed Account 2]

Just win the last two games and we're in the playoffs. How many more chances does Kerr get. He should have qualified us for Euro 2004, he had the chance the last two games but didnt. Has had numerous chances this World Cup qualifying campaign but didnt. Even if we do qualify for the playoff and then lose he should be out.


I agree, he said we'll draw the big games away and win at home - spectacular failure in terms of results even if the performances have been ok. Simple fact is were paying now for not keeping our leads v Israel twice and the Swiss away, if we had won any of them then tonights result wouldnt have been such a blow.

If we dont finish second I think questions will be rightly asked of Kerr, he might stay in the job if there is noone else to take it. If we finish fourth (a distinct possibility) then I think he will resign.

[dancinpants]

If we fail to qualify then Kerr must go. He's had a multitude of chances. End of story.

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A few of the playing staff might want to think about following him out the door too. Some of them just ain't up to the standard required.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Harte was useless.. didn't make one accurate pass.

[the 12 th man]

Work rate was fantastic from Ireland.We just lacked that last pass to open it up for us.
imho Roy Keane was outstanding and a draw would have been about right.
Crowd sounded up for it for a change...................

[Plastic Paddy]

A few of the playing staff might want to think about following him out the door too. Some of them just ain't up to the standard required.

That too. 'Cept we don't have no alternatives, unless you want to see the likes of David Connolly making a reappearance... :eek:

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[thejollyrodger]

i dont know if its the manager or just Ireland. We dont have the players. France have the better 11 than us

[Jon'o]

Switzerland still have to play both france and us!!! there is still hope lets focus on winning the next two games before asking who should be hired and fired!!

In any case who the hell would you seeing replacing Kerr? and manage to get us further? its not the manager its the group we're in, had france not been in it we would'nt have this problem :(

[CollegeTillIDie]

We're basically sean bhean bhocht... lying 4th 3 points behind , Israel, Switzerland, France. Basically you need the Onion eaters, the Triangular chocolate makers and the Kosher boys to all screw up before we can win the group... that ain't gonna happen.
Need France to beat Switzerland... Ireland to win both remaining games.. and keep saying Novenas just to make a play-off which we would probably lose anyway

[CollegeTillIDie]

Can We use most of the Cork City boys over in Cyprus instead of the national team?
After all almost half of them are bloody suspended for that game.

[Plastic Paddy]

Someone who has experoence of managing Premiership players. God bless Brian Kerr, but he hasn't the right experience to coax the performances out of the over-preened ponces we have that pass for a team. At least David O'Leary has an ego to match the best of them - why not give him his head? He might be ready to accommodate us now, after all... :rolleyes:

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[REVIP]

How about Ireland v England in the play-offs?

[dancinpants]

its not the manager its the group we're in, had france not been in it we would'nt have this problem :(

How so? It isn't just France that we can't beat!!!

[CollegeTillIDie]

Someone who has experoence of managing Premiership players. God bless Brian Kerr, but he hasn't the right experience to coax the performances out of the over-preened ponces we have that pass for a team. At least David O'Leary has an ego to match the best of them - why not give him his head? He might be ready to accommodate us now, after all... :rolleyes:

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I have never forgiven O'Leary for gifting Poland two goals in that 3-3 draw which cost us Euro 92. He would only screw up the Irish gig too like he did at Leeds.....

[Closed Account 2]

for what its worth the teams we are likely to play should we make the playoffs are looking like:-

Turkey
Slovakia/Russia
Norway/Slovenia/Scotland
England/Poland
Serbia

But I think we will need a lot of luck to get that.