View Full Version : Keane and Kerr row?
Dotsy
05/09/2005, 11:26 AM
It's on the front of the Herald so it probably true :rolleyes: RK has had a bust up with Kerr over Robbie Keane partying the last few nights :eek: . I didn't buy the rag so that's all I saw while getting a sarnie in the shop for lunch.
Peadar
05/09/2005, 11:28 AM
It's on the front of the Herald...
Right on cue, the failing rag churns out trash in order to attract a few red-top readers! :rolleyes:
Green Army Girl
05/09/2005, 11:44 AM
I think this is all just a ploy to let the french team into thinking that we are f*cked in every way possible for this game with injuries and rows but really everythinng will be grand on match day
livehead1
05/09/2005, 11:47 AM
lets hope so
thejollyrodger
05/09/2005, 12:01 PM
Its probably a load of bóllócks. It has been churing out lies about the EL for years, its just moved on to the national team.
Im not sure if Robbie and Heart should be out on the **** in the run up to such an important game. But I cant see Roy having a row with Kerr about it. Him back mending fences with Ireland and all.
Schumi
05/09/2005, 12:03 PM
the Herald... true.Ha ha. Good one! :D
TerryPhelan
05/09/2005, 12:06 PM
Its probably a load of bóllócks. It has been churing out lies about the EL for years, its just moved on to the national team.
Im not sure if Robbie and Heart should be out on the **** in the run up to such an important game. But I cant see Roy having a row with Kerr about it. Him back mending fences with Ireland and all.
Well the latest thing I've heard is that Keane sent Kerr a text message last week complaining about the squad being assembled so early (Thursday) before the game - apparently he was less than impressed. Plus ca change... :rolleyes: But all this is just filler and hot air, once the lads step out on the pitch the day after tomorrow (God, the nerves!) it'll all disappear, never to be spoken of again!!
Stuttgart88
05/09/2005, 12:15 PM
True or not true, this is a direct consequence of the players in question having a bad attitude. McCarthy gave his players the benefit of the doubt and Babb & Kennedy let him down - 5 days before a match too. Robbie, Harte, Doc & co. have done the same. Even if the very worst consequence is bad publicity, that's bad enough. They have put Kerr in a thankless position. Idiots.
Kerr publicly claims he has no problem with their behaviour. I bet you the exact opposite is true. Remember he & Carr were said to have fallen out over something far more trivial. I've also heard that the players are unhappy with Kerr's strictness. On this basis I reckon it's unlikely that Keane and Kerr are at odds. But I think Keane would take a dim view of the night owls' behaviour.
TheJamaicanP.M.
05/09/2005, 12:23 PM
I wouldn't believe anything I'd read in that rag. One or two of the journalists who write for them are nothing short of thugs.
While I think that Robbie and co. were unprofessional (I was in Lillies to witness the whole episode), I don't think there are problems in the squad. As for the possibility of Keane complaining, he should do everyone a favour and keep his head down. When Babb and Kennedy were sent home by McCarthy five years ago, Keane publicly stated that he felt sympathetic towards the players and felt that they were harshly treated. The fact that he could now take the opposite view with this episode would render his rant somewhat hypocritical. And we all know that Roy has "principles" and is surely no hypocrit.
OwlsFan
05/09/2005, 12:38 PM
This is usually the stuff we read about other squads when they visit Dublin: "Russian team in disarray"; "Swiss unhappy" etc and then they play out of their skins. Stuff and nonsense as the wife says. Keane (Roy) is not captain and should keep his mouth shut (IF he opened it) and let the manager run the team.
Focus on one thing only: les Blues and send them home black and bleu with nul points.
drinkfeckarse
05/09/2005, 12:40 PM
Im not sure if Robbie and Heart should be out on the **** in the run up to such an important game. But I cant see Roy having a row with Kerr about it. Him back mending fences with Ireland and all.
RMK is very passionate though and even though I think the story is a load of b0ll0cks, I don't doubt that he would say it to Kerr if they had been out. After all, he is a consumate pro and would expect and demand professionalism from the rest of the players in the run up to such a big game.
If these guys were out on the pish on Friday before such a big game then hopefully Kerr (no matter what he says publicly) has given them a good bollocking himself. There are people on other treads here talking about handing over hundreds of euro to touts to see this match and these guys are behaving like amateurs before such a big match :mad:
Aldini98
05/09/2005, 1:04 PM
I'm sure it's true but nothing to worry about. The Boy Roy would start a fight in an empty room. ;)
Paulie
05/09/2005, 1:05 PM
As the saying says - a newspaper never refused ink
Tbh I couldnt care less if they went out and had 20 pints last friday once they do the business on wednesday
Junior
05/09/2005, 1:28 PM
Tbh I couldnt care less if they went out and had 20 pints last friday once they do the business on wednesday
I think the point is they are less likely to do the business if they are living the highlife non?
thejollyrodger
05/09/2005, 1:51 PM
FAIL TO PREPARE - PREPARE TO FAIL
If Robbie and hart doesnt look match fit then they have sold Ireland off for a good night out
Doubt going out on the lash 5 mights before a match is going to have much effect on them. As Kerr himself said, it's like a player going out on a monday night before a saturday match. Or do you expect footballers not to have a few pints at all :rolleyes: ?
As long as a player does the business on the pitch i couldnt care less what they do off it
Doubt going out on the lash 5 mights before a match is going to have much effect on them. As Kerr himself said, it's like a player going out on a monday night before a saturday match. Or do you expect footballers not to have a few pints at all :rolleyes: ?
As long as a player does the business on the pitch i couldnt care less what they do off it
The thing is that they have been out 3 or 4 nights in a row on total benders. How can that be good for anyones bodys less than a week before a cruical WCQ ? very bad form to even think about it doing it so close to our biggest match since the Holland WCQ in Lansdowne.
I just don't think it is the best preparation for a game of this importance to be out on the **** five days before it. I don't care one way or the other if Roy Keane is annoyed about it. If it happened then I would expect Kerr to be fuming and I expect he is whatever he may say in public. That's the best way to play it from thepoint of view of the team and keeping concentration on the game at this stage.
'The thing is that they have been out 3 or 4 nights in a row on total benders.'
Wasnt aware of that, if true - said in the mirror paper it was only friday night (i think)
Dublin12
05/09/2005, 2:08 PM
If Robbie and hart doesnt look match fit then they have sold Ireland off for a good night out[/QUOTE]
You might manage the correct spelling with the 3rd attempt ;) :D
thejollyrodger
05/09/2005, 2:15 PM
hearte
TheJamaicanP.M.
05/09/2005, 2:21 PM
I don't care whether people make excuses for those players who were out, the fact is that it is bound to affect their performances. If a night out like that takes only 2% away from Robbie Keane's fitness, it is still negative. Robbie needs to be at 100% for Wednesday night. Prior to the Irish team arriving in Dublin, Kerr stated that he had planned an intensive week of training to get Robbie and Clinton sharp for the French game. A night out to coincide with such a training regime was hardly an appropriate response from Robbie. Lets hope that this whole episode galvanises the Irish squad for Wednesday night.
thejollyrodger
05/09/2005, 2:26 PM
harte
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like Robbie is going to score anyway ? That alochol wont stop him tumbling about swallowing flies all after noon.
The thing is that they have been out 3 or 4 nights in a row on total benders. How can that be good for anyones bodys less than a week before a cruical WCQ ? very bad form to even think about it doing it so close to our biggest match since the Holland WCQ in Lansdowne.
3 or 4 nights in a row so they have been out on benders since they met up on friday?????????????
eirebhoy
05/09/2005, 6:20 PM
You might manage the correct spelling with the 3rd attempt ;) :D
I was reading this thread and just about to point that out. :)
Hearte
Heart
Hart
He was getting there. ;)
tricky_colour
05/09/2005, 6:34 PM
If you can't have a drink 5 days before a 'big' match then footballers must all
be tea total, as for clubs every game is a big match.
Futhermore if you are accustomed to the odd drink, some of the players would be suffering withdrawal symptoms by Wednesday!!
SuperDub
05/09/2005, 9:50 PM
Lads
would you ever look at who wrote the story in the "herald" mick mccaffrey the same "so called journo" who created alot of hysteria before we went to tel aviv regarding security etc its typical of the herald They should be getting behind the team not making enemies typical muppets. I heard on tv the players are refusing to co operate with the media over the story.
keenanboy
05/09/2005, 9:56 PM
that particular journalist in question had a run in with Alex Ferguson last year if memory serves me correctly....not surprised he's tried to throw keano into the middle of all this
tetsujin1979
05/09/2005, 10:47 PM
Lads
would you ever look at who wrote the story in the "herald" mick mccaffrey the same "so called journo" who created alot of hysteria before we went to tel aviv regarding security etc its typical of the herald They should be getting behind the team not making enemies typical muppets. I heard on tv the players are refusing to co operate with the media over the story.
I was shocked it wasn't Hyland, the man is total poison, and seems to have a serious chip on his shoulder.
Mayo Red
05/09/2005, 11:23 PM
While I am no great fan of Roy Keane, it seems to be all a storm in a teacup perpetuated by a rag that you wouldn't wipe your arse with! :rolleyes:
drummerboy
06/09/2005, 8:17 AM
Hyland, what an absolute frog-eyed toad
Donal81
06/09/2005, 8:51 AM
I can confirm with first-hand authority that the Evening Herald has a shaky approach towards editorial integrity. I'm always surprised when smart, intelligent people I know buy the thing. The little that is actually in it is rubbish, the stories are badly written hype with no substance. So, why buy it when you can buy decent soccer journalism? It was interesting to see how the media can feed itself, however, with RTE running a story on this story last night and the Irish Times covering it this morning. This story has been talked about enough already, I don't like to see that pile of sh*te get any more publicity than it already does.
eirebhoy
06/09/2005, 10:12 AM
It was interesting to see how the media can feed itself, however, with RTE running a story on this story last night and the Irish Times covering it this morning. This story has been talked about enough already, I don't like to see that pile of sh*te get any more publicity than it already does.
I think its more RTE and the Irish Times wanting to make sure as many people as possible know the the story is crap. The RTE news presenter said something like "A case of a tabloid never refusing ink".
Donal81
06/09/2005, 10:19 AM
I think its more RTE and the Irish Times wanting to make sure as many people as possible know the the story is crap. The RTE news presenter said something like "A case of a tabloid never refusing ink".
True and I find the Irish Times soccer coverage to be the best around. It's just interesting how what was a non-story from the start becomes a story. I really would urge people never to buy the Evening Herald, it's an absolutely awful paper but seems to attract those looking for sports news. I have no idea why, I just don't understand the appeal of the rag.
thejollyrodger
06/09/2005, 11:17 AM
Totally agree Donal, Irish Times is probably the best coverage. All the articles written are by irish journos for a start which moves them above the INdo and the tabloids. Plus they are usually well thought through and have a new angle on things.
green-blood
06/09/2005, 12:42 PM
when are the FAI gonna make a proper complaint about his clown McCaffrey, he's done rovers, Bohs, the league as a whole, he's put his name to outrageous stories about terrorism in the north, the Israel match build up was scandalous, he runs stories about Muslin terrorist splinter cells in Dublin and now there is a "source" telling him about Roy Keane having a bust up with Kerr - the guy is a joker, but a dangerous joker because some day somebody will read these pieces of fiction and really give him a story a hate crime story
out this fecker now
Donal81
06/09/2005, 1:17 PM
There's a simple solution to consistently shoddy journalism. Stop buying it and therefore funding it.
The bustup seems to be pure fiction so can't believe anything about players on drink benders for weeks then.
All fiction to me, wouldn't waste my time talking about it anymore.
We've all know for years the Herald is trash.
BaZmO*
06/09/2005, 1:59 PM
The Evening Herald is held together with staples FFS!! Do proper newspapers have staples? Don't think so. It's a rag!
B.
onenilgameover
06/09/2005, 2:08 PM
The Evening Herald is held together with staples FFS!! Do proper newspapers have staples? Don't think so. It's a rag!
B.
Very good point. I heard this was becuase it was made of actual sh!t and would fall apart without staples.
Nothing to worry bout...God I do hate the Herald but then I think thats what they're after creating this total muck stories. if I worked for the herald I'd run out in front of moving cars.
BaZmO*
06/09/2005, 2:28 PM
if I worked for the herald I'd run out in front of moving cars.
But if you done that the editor would go with the front page story, "Immigrant Worker mows down Evening Herald Worker" and it would probably go on to state that he bought the car out of either drug money or a social welfare cheque!!
B.
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