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Another Bohemia
25/02/2024, 5:00 PM
Over the two games so far we’ve been missing: Byrne,Lopes, McEneff ( both games) ,Grace, Burke,Kenny & Towell (one game) Farrugia & Clarke (1.5 games)
Most of the above would be starters if full squad fit ….. imo there has been decent improvement to the squad with McEneff , Honahan ( to replace Hoare when Lopes back and he looks a super player) and Burns coming in and Power/Burt moved out.
If we lose Gaffney we have option of one from Greene, Burke & Kenny , imo that’s as good a level of squad depth as can be asked for.
The only groundhog for me is the poor start but event that’s nothing too concerning as again so called ‘contenders ‘ have already after only two games failed to take full advantage
I think Rovers success is built on their wingbacks, at least from the games I've seen. If Clarke and or Farrugia are fit for more than. 50% of the games they should win comfortably more often than not as they have the strength in depth to cover most other areas in case of injury/suspension. The big question is can Rovers get Clarke & Farrugia fit and keep them fit. If I was a Rovers fan I would have to wonder what the physios or sport science department or medical department (whatever they may be called these days) are doing to A) get Clarke & Farrugia back fit and B) Keep them fit. I mean the dog in the street knows now that they are injury prone so do they need more rest days than the normal squad, can you only play them for 60 mins each? With how much they seem to impact the way Rovers play these are certainly questions you would hope they are asking within the Rovers management team and medical team. I can't say I've heard stellar things about the Rovers medical teams. I've even heard that they weren't aware Burt was injured when he signed from Bohs even though it was pretty common knowledge that he was carrying an injury through most of his last season with Bohs.
Dermobohs
25/02/2024, 6:54 PM
individuals within our support base during Friday’s SSE Airtricity Men’s Premier Division game away against St Patrick’s Athletic.
These incidents, when multiple flares were thrown onto the pitch at the start of the second half, represented an unacceptable and reckless escalation of behaviour that endangered the safety of players from both teams and the safety of our own supporters.
Bohemian FC players required medical attention after being struck by the flares, while we have received reports from our own supporters of being struck by flares thrown in the direction of the pitch.
There can be no justification of this. We have consistently reminded members and supporters of the collective responsibility of all in attendance at our games to help create an atmosphere and environment where supporters feel safe.
All supporters should by now be well aware of the potential consequences and league sanctions for clubs when incidents of this nature occur.
It is therefore extremely frustrating for the overwhelming majority of our fanbase that a small number of individuals proceeded to wilfully behave in this way regardless of the potential consequences for the club and supporters.
We take their actions extremely seriously, and the club is now in the process of reviewing all available footage and photographs from Friday’s game with the aim of identifying those responsible, and can confirm that anyone identified as throwing flares will be indefinitely banned from Bohemians games.
Dermobohs
25/02/2024, 6:54 PM
Message sent to members by the club
ontheotherhand
25/02/2024, 7:05 PM
Gas. Probably about 6 pages of comments when that dope launched a firework in Waterford but the only people even talking about bohs trying to set fire to their own players are bohs fans.
It's a tough life being a hoop. Great laugh though.
i think galway will be fine this year. id had enough of JC by the time he got the sack in 2019 but the type of player hes signed will have ye safe. there are one too many teams trying to play pretty and dundalk are definitely one of them. JC knows if you are strong on set pieces, win 2nd balls , counter quickly and win your headers against teams like this you'll win. too much ****ing around with the ball (which is ironically what happened with city post maguire) gets you no where. get it launched to the wingers or into the big man and you'll win some games.
Agree with this, Dundalk almost obsessed with playing the ball across the back 4 and in your own half, the ball goes nowhere, I sometimes think the % stat should only count when you have the ball in the oppositions half, as its almost pointless counting it in your half, what use is that.
JC using Big Jack tactics, wasn't pretty, but if it gets results?
brendy_éire
25/02/2024, 8:26 PM
I had the misfortune to watch the first half of the Tyrone-Mayo match yesterday, and thought it was the worst half of football I'd seen in quite a while.
Then came the match at the Showgrounds. Worse, so utterly dull. Only one shot on target for each team, and eight yellow cards in what wasn't a dirty match.
Two injuries of concern, Patrick McEleney and Dummigan, who was stretched off. We've cover in midfield, at least.
sulywaterfordfc
25/02/2024, 8:43 PM
Gas. Probably about 6 pages of comments when that dope launched a firework in Waterford but the only people even talking about bohs trying to set fire to their own players are bohs fans.
It's a tough life being a hoop. Great laugh though.
That’s a total lie, the behaviour of Bohs fans has been the talk of social media this weekend. Every fan base is talking about it. Rovers were looked after by the FAI though giving a slap on the wrist, Bohs potentially could get the book thrown at them.
On a side note, it happens a couple times a year tbh where you hear a news story relating to the behaviour of Rovers fans. Bohs have a few scuffs too, the behaviour isn’t acceptable but Rovers fans trying to act like they’re being picked on by the league is some serious BS.
Dermobohs
25/02/2024, 9:00 PM
That’s a total lie, the behaviour of Bohs fans has been the talk of social media this weekend. Every fan base is talking about it. Rovers were looked after by the FAI though giving a slap on the wrist, Bohs potentially could get the book thrown at them.
On a side note, it happens a couple times a year tbh where you hear a news story relating to the behaviour of Rovers fans. Bohs have a few scuffs too, the behaviour isn’t acceptable but Rovers fans trying to act like they’re being picked on by the league is some serious BS.
True that, always getting away with it. Bohs will deserve anything we get, sadly these goms are getting away lightly every week, not for much longer I feel though, bit of self policing worked wonders Friday. Anyway, hopefully we’re concentrating on the on field stuff next week!
I had the misfortune to watch the first half of the Tyrone-Mayo match yesterday, and thought it was the worst half of football I'd seen in quite a while.
Then came the match at the Showgrounds. Worse, so utterly dull. Only one shot on target for each team, and eight yellow cards in what wasn't a dirty match.
Two injuries of concern, Patrick McEleney and Dummigan, who was stretched off. We've cover in midfield, at least.
Fats must be def a concern at this stage the amount of games he misses, was never going to be straightforward leaving one artificial pitch to another one less standard, won't help with injuries.
Brilliant player but maybe best days now behind him.
ontheotherhand
25/02/2024, 9:22 PM
That’s a total lie, the behaviour of Bohs fans has been the talk of social media this weekend. Every fan base is talking about it. Rovers were looked after by the FAI though giving a slap on the wrist, Bohs potentially could get the book thrown at them.
On a side note, it happens a couple times a year tbh where you hear a news story relating to the behaviour of Rovers fans. Bohs have a few scuffs too, the behaviour isn’t acceptable but Rovers fans trying to act like they’re being picked on by the league is some serious BS.
Eh? It's literally here to view on the forum itself. I'm talking about this forum very specifically. The talk of social media sounds spicy tho. Is TikTok going wild?
Show me the couple of news stories a year when you have a chance by the way. That'd be 2-3 for each season for, let's say the past 5?
Do you remember your own lads hitting Dylan Watts above the eye with an egg in that game by the way? Biggest contribution to the league that Waterford have made in a long time to be fair.
ontheotherhand
25/02/2024, 10:04 PM
True that, always getting away with it. Bohs will deserve anything we get, sadly these goms are getting away lightly every week, not for much longer I feel though, bit of self policing worked wonders Friday. Anyway, hopefully we’re concentrating on the on field stuff next week!
So you're always getting away with it or we are? :D
Genuinely never see any trouble in Tallaght Dermo, do you? Dalymount is a different animal altogether. Can't even bring the family there.
RealJohn91
25/02/2024, 10:32 PM
You've some victim complex. Dermo clearly wasn't referring to Rovers but you still took it as he was.
placid casual
25/02/2024, 10:33 PM
Could it be construed that the boez fans were just lighting a fire under their player's ar$e$ to get them moving?
ontheotherhand
25/02/2024, 10:40 PM
You've some victim complex. Dermo clearly wasn't referring to Rovers but you still took it as he was.
John....he's replying to a post about Rovers that you can read right here on this very forum. Do you have a mouse? Just scroll up there. If not you can use the keyboard arrows I'd say.
SkStu
25/02/2024, 10:46 PM
Do you remember your own lads hitting Dylan Watts above the eye with an egg in that game by the way?
Well deserved given youse did poach him from us.
RealJohn91
25/02/2024, 10:48 PM
John....he's replying to a post about Rovers that you can read right here on this very forum. Do you have a mouse? Just scroll up there. If not you can use the keyboard arrows I'd say.
So that sentence ending in "not for much longer I feel though, bit of self policing worked wonders Friday." was referring to Rovers then? Was there self policing in Tolka on Friday that we're not aware of?
ontheotherhand
25/02/2024, 10:53 PM
Well deserved given youse did poach him from us.
Sometimes I don't want to clash with bohs fans on here because some of yous are good eggs.
ontheotherhand
25/02/2024, 10:55 PM
So that sentence ending in "not for much longer I feel though, bit of self policing worked wonders Friday." was referring to Rovers then? Was there self policing in Tolka on Friday that we're not aware of?
We didn't need self policing. We were far too cold to cause any trouble.
The part of the post that was directly referencing Rovers was before that. I put most of it in bold. Thought that would help.
RealJohn91
25/02/2024, 10:58 PM
We didn't need self policing. We were far too cold to cause any trouble.
The part of the post that was directly referencing Rovers was before that. I put most of it in bold. Thought that would help.
I think bolding the whole thing instead of the parts that help you play the victim at even imagined slights would help better but what are you going to do.
ontheotherhand
25/02/2024, 11:06 PM
I think bolding the whole thing instead of the parts that help you play the victim at even imagined slights would help better but what are you going to do.
If I bolded the whole thing you'd be even more lost lad. He replied to a post that was replying to mine....do you need italics to help you?
Anyway, your fans tried to set fire to your own players. And you won! Do it again I suppose.
MMVIII
25/02/2024, 11:43 PM
Eh? It's literally here to view on the forum itself. I'm talking about this forum very specifically. The talk of social media sounds spicy tho. Is TikTok going wild?
Show me the couple of news stories a year when you have a chance by the way. That'd be 2-3 for each season for, let's say the past 5?
Do you remember your own lads hitting Dylan Watts above the eye with an egg in that game by the way? Biggest contribution to the league that Waterford have made in a long time to be fair.
Shams fans a particular menace in Sligo over the years. Letting off smoke bombs in pubs, firing bottles at people in a pub, smashing the windows of another. Plenty up in Court for incidents, i'm sure you'll find the news stories handy enough if you google it.
ontheotherhand
25/02/2024, 11:56 PM
Shams fans a particular menace in Sligo over the years. Letting off smoke bombs in pubs, firing bottles at people in a pub, smashing the windows of another. Plenty up in Court for incidents, i'm sure you'll find the news stories handy enough if you google it.
You haven't posted on here since 2019 and that's your contribution 4 years later? Are you one of these Cawley types who switched Sligo for bohs? Might you be the real john?
Gas stuff lads. Very entertaining.
ontheotherhand
26/02/2024, 12:16 AM
That's a bingo.
legendz
26/02/2024, 2:43 AM
Kerry were victims of poor refereeing on Friday night. Nathan Gleeson handed a second yellow card for a coming together. The fourth official and linesman saw it as a coming together.
Kerry shot themselves in the foot then with the concession of two sloppy goals. A repeat of failings from last season.
Next up for Kerry is Treaty visiting on Friday in the league and on Monday in the MSC. Treaty have strong playoff ambitions this year, and possibly even more?
Another Bohemia
26/02/2024, 8:13 AM
At the risk of bringing this forum back to football rather than hooliganism I'd be curious as to what others think of Bohs new signings.
I've been happy enough with the keeper so far. He's certainly more willing to get amongst it for crosses and happy to come out of the box to clear his lines. Still unsure about shot stopping as Pat's didn't have and chances where you would say he made a great save and the goals against Sligo were more on the terrible defending in front of him than anything he necessarily did.
Reinkort reminds me a lot of Dinny Corcoran. Big and can hold the ball up, decent finisher from what I've seen as well but he's not going to create something out of nothing. His touch can leave a little to be desired but he is making runs behind the defender well and if we start trying to pick them out instead of thumping long balls up at him he could be a very tidy addition.
Lilander and Miller I'm less convinced about. Lilander can certainly strike a ball well but I don't think he's realised how physical the league here is just yet which with teams like Galway and Shels still to play could be a rude awakening for him. Miller's touch seems very sloppy so far which for a midfielder is less than ideal but it's early in the season so maybe he just needs a bit of time to settle.
The only other one we've seen is piszczek and he certainly put himself about when he came on vs Pat's. Had a good chance to get a goal as well only for a good save from their keeper. He probably should have score it though. Perhaps if the same chance comes with a couple of games under his belt he will score.
ger121
26/02/2024, 11:59 AM
At the risk of bringing this forum back to football rather than hooliganism I'd be curious as to what others think of Bohs new signings.
I've been happy enough with the keeper so far. He's certainly more willing to get amongst it for crosses and happy to come out of the box to clear his lines. Still unsure about shot stopping as Pat's didn't have and chances where you would say he made a great save and the goals against Sligo were more on the terrible defending in front of him than anything he necessarily did.
Reinkort reminds me a lot of Dinny Corcoran. Big and can hold the ball up, decent finisher from what I've seen as well but he's not going to create something out of nothing. His touch can leave a little to be desired but he is making runs behind the defender well and if we start trying to pick them out instead of thumping long balls up at him he could be a very tidy addition.
Lilander and Miller I'm less convinced about. Lilander can certainly strike a ball well but I don't think he's realised how physical the league here is just yet which with teams like Galway and Shels still to play could be a rude awakening for him. Miller's touch seems very sloppy so far which for a midfielder is less than ideal but it's early in the season so maybe he just needs a bit of time to settle.
The only other one we've seen is piszczek and he certainly put himself about when he came on vs Pat's. Had a good chance to get a goal as well only for a good save from their keeper. He probably should have score it though. Perhaps if the same chance comes with a couple of games under his belt he will score.
Early days but the new lads who have played have seemed ok. Lilander I’m not so sure about. Time will tell of course and we have the other newbies who came in just before the deadline.
sbgawa
26/02/2024, 12:36 PM
Gas. Probably about 6 pages of comments when that dope launched a firework in Waterford but the only people even talking about bohs trying to set fire to their own players are bohs fans.
It's a tough life being a hoop. Great laugh though.
I think a rubicon has been crossed when a player requires medical attention and the FAI will have to come down hard otherwise what's next ??
Dermobohs
26/02/2024, 1:05 PM
They will go to town on us over this.
As has been said a player got injured, that can’t be let go, and will definitely result in the fans turning on the offenders if it happens again.rightly so.
Interestingly the yoke who threw it was given a few digs and pointed out to the stewards who shrugged and walked away.
ontheotherhand
26/02/2024, 1:14 PM
They will go to town on us over this.
As has been said a player got injured, that can’t be let go, and will definitely result in the fans turning on the offenders if it happens again.rightly so.
Interestingly the yoke who threw it was given a few digs and pointed out to the stewards who shrugged and walked away.
Yeah would imagine they will come down hard alright. It's a shame because flares really add to the atmosphere and set us apart from other leagues but it'll be zero tolerance from now I'd say. Wish we could try making it all a bit safer but there's not much creativity on the FAI side and obviously the clubs cant be seen to be involved at all.
Stuttgart88
26/02/2024, 1:42 PM
Rovers based on second half deserved a draw … one good thing we learned is that Pohls is superb keeper…. Good luck to Shels on the win….. downside is that Duff will be insufferable … two big homes games coming up next/end … win both and we’re up and running …. Don’t and it’s last year groundhog …. We’ll be fine
I'm glad you said that. I thought he was excellent. He has the same style with ball at feet as Kelleher I think - languid, casual, in control. Now he'll get tackled on his goalline next weekend!
Cleary played like a 16 year old rookie. I can't believe that Bradley didn't have the players prepared for a fast-out-of-the-traps approach from Shels. Bradley does not get a pass here. That said, the early penalty looked like a ridiculous decision but I was only following on a mobile.
I thought in advance the heavy pitch would be a factor and I think it was. But really nobody to blame but ourselves. Derry drawing limits the damage.
ger121
26/02/2024, 2:48 PM
There is definitely a theme with Rovers in that they start games very slowly and now it seems league seasons too. Why is that I wonder. Lack of pace in the squad, keeping players fit or playing style. All of the above, some of the above, none of the above. Something else?
Shinkicker
26/02/2024, 3:31 PM
Early days but the new lads who have played have seemed ok. Lilander I’m not so sure about. Time will tell of course and we have the other newbies who came in just before the deadline.
I like Reinkort, drops off to pick the ball and sets up the oncoming midfielder and peels off for the return to feet. Eg his goal against Shels. Also did similar at Pats, I think he prefers the ball to his feet.
The keeper I also like, commanding in the air, seems very confident with the ball at his feet but hasn't had any real shots to save so far.
Pizczeck, I thought he worked really hard when he came on, covered plenty of ground and blocked / cleared 2 Pats attacks at a crucial time of the game. I think hell come good.
Miller, haven't seen him tested enough.
Lilander, sweet mother of kcfu. On what iv seen so far I don't think he'll hold down a regular place in the starting 11.
I could be proved wrong on all of this on Friday, the keeper will drop one, Pizczeck will deflect in an og but Reinkort will score a header and Lilander will score the winner in a 3-2 victory.
ontheotherhand
26/02/2024, 3:42 PM
There is definitely a theme with Rovers in that they start games very slowly and now it seems league seasons too. Why is that I wonder. Lack of pace in the squad, keeping players fit or playing style. All of the above, some of the above, none of the above. Something else?
Probably a bit of all that yeah. It's how we play. Rarely see us come out of the gates hell for leather.
Bradley mentioned tweaking pre-season this year. Players got a longer break as it was felt that last season might have been too intense. We might have gone too far the opposite way! He's also spoken about not risking the likes of Byrne and Burke early in the season. Byrne barely had a pre-season. Think he only played in one internal friendly towards the end.
Not too worried outside of the injuries. We haven't been playing too badly outside of the first 25/30 against Shels which was probably the worst I've seen us play in a long time. Bradley was as harsh about the back 3 (https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/stephen-bradley-fumes-with-awful-start-from-shamrock-rovers-in-derby-defeat-at-shelbourne/a456010096.html) as I've ever heard him be about any players and rightly so. As Stutts said above, Cleary looked brand new but they were all brutal.
Bohtastic
26/02/2024, 6:27 PM
Probably a bit of all that yeah. It's how we play. Rarely see us come out of the gates hell for leather.
Bradley mentioned tweaking pre-season this year. Players got a longer break as it was felt that last season might have been too intense. We might have gone too far the opposite way! He's also spoken about not risking the likes of Byrne and Burke early in the season. Byrne barely had a pre-season. Think he only played in one internal friendly towards the end.
Not too worried outside of the injuries.
I think Ferrugia and Clarke are crucial for you, without them you're a bit one paced.
How long is Clarke out for?
With Byrne out as well a lot is depending on Burke. Surprised he didn't start.
Burt also has a bit of pace, would Bradley think about recalling him?
ontheotherhand
26/02/2024, 6:39 PM
I think Ferrugia and Clarke are crucial for you, without them you're a bit one paced.
How long is Clarke out for?
With Byrne out as well a lot is depending on Burke. Surprised he didn't start.
Burt also has a bit of pace, would Bradley think about recalling him?
Ah we are a completely different animal with those two. Even having one fit makes a huge difference. Really wish we'd found even one decent backup because you're right, it all gets a bit slow without them. Kavo is a lovely footballer but he has no pace and just checks back at the halfway line 9/10. We can keep the ball with him but we aren't as dangerous. Burns was much better on Friday so he might help but that's higher up the pitch.
Clarke is out for 3 weeks I think but.....I wouldn't always trust Bradley's media comments and I don't have any inside track on it. Farrugia will be a lot longer. Hopefully be back for Europe.
Doubt Burt would be recalled. Injured again anyway. I think bohs got the last good days out of him.
WoodquayBoy
26/02/2024, 6:52 PM
Our first goal on Friday saw the goalkeeper play a short pass to the centre back, who was allowed advance 40 or 50 yards with the ball before playing a pass out to the right-back on the touch line. He took a touch before passing infield to central midfielder who played a pass between Dundalk centre back and left back for our striker to run on to. He ran on and then played a ball across 6-yard box for winger to score. Nothing, absolutely nothing, agricultural about that, or the second goal - there was one team resorting to long balls the last night and they were not wearing maroon. I understand ye don’t like caulfield but we’ve done ye 4-0 and 2-0 in the past 6 months, playing football
sulywaterfordfc
26/02/2024, 7:21 PM
Eh? It's literally here to view on the forum itself. I'm talking about this forum very specifically. The talk of social media sounds spicy tho. Is TikTok going wild?
Show me the couple of news stories a year when you have a chance by the way. That'd be 2-3 for each season for, let's say the past 5?
Do you remember your own lads hitting Dylan Watts above the eye with an egg in that game by the way? Biggest contribution to the league that Waterford have made in a long time to be fair.
Off the top of my head I recall two incidents last year, if anyone else recalls anymore incidents involving Rovers fans feel free to add. It was in the news at the time when Rovers fans clashed with Derry fans after a game between the sides, and early last season Rovers fans were in the news again for doing damage to the new stand in Dalymount.
ontheotherhand
26/02/2024, 10:39 PM
Off the top of my head I recall two incidents last year, if anyone else recalls anymore incidents involving Rovers fans feel free to add. It was in the news at the time when Rovers fans clashed with Derry fans after a game between the sides, and early last season Rovers fans were in the news again for doing damage to the new stand in Dalymount.
Sounds like you know what happened in Derry better than the relevant authorities. Be sure to send in the info as it would probably help avoid similar incidents and I know people up there are trying. (https://www.derryjournal.com/sport/football/derry-city-appeal-to-fans-amid-worrying-trend-of-violent-attacks-at-brandywell-stadium-4142214) It's a shame as it's such a good away trip but it's getting very dicey.
Not sure I'd be calling them Derry fans either. It's probably the same sort of lads who used to chuck rocks at the buses but they seem to have gotten a bit braver/stupider as the years go by.
placid casual
27/02/2024, 6:18 AM
Rovers don't need to come out all guns blazing in the league as the confidence of winning the league 4 years in a row,with little or no opposition it has to be said,means Bradley and his squad are relaxed about the initial games - marathon not a sprint and all that
Burt was a disaster for Rovers and spent more time in the ground than anything else- Not all our poaches from boez go to plan it seems.
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