SPL Discussion Thread [Archive] - Page 43

DeLorean

29/05/2015, 8:18 AM

pineapple stu

29/05/2015, 8:23 AM

They had a goal (rightly) ruled out for offside in the last minute too. Makes it all the funnier. :)

At least they should have another shot at winning the Challenge Cup, which they've not managed to win once yet.

OwlsFan

29/05/2015, 11:20 AM

Wouldn't rule them out just yet. Two goal deficit is not an impossible task. I sort of miss their presence in the SPL but at least Hearts are back to add a bit of spice.

nigel-harps1954

29/05/2015, 11:38 AM

Do away goals count in it?

DeLorean

29/05/2015, 11:51 AM

No they don't, extra time and penalties if the teams are level on aggregate. That does give Rangers an outside chance but the manner of the defeat must be very worrying for them. All will be revealed Sunday I guess.

Stuttgart88

31/05/2015, 3:27 PM

Rangers look doomed to another season in the lower leagues. They lost 3-1 at Ibrox in the 1st Leg of their playoff against Motherwell. They were 3-0 down after 50 minutes so I suppose it could have been worse. With Hibs in Division One again next year and St. Mirren dropping down it might be difficult enough to win the division again.i saw the second half. Cracking game and some good technique on show.

Cammy Bell has just had a horror moment to allow Motherwell to score. Should be all over now.

Another title for Celtic!

TheOneWhoKnocks

31/05/2015, 4:16 PM

http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/may/31/motherwell-v-rangers-scottish-premiership-play-off-final-live

Bilel Mohsni will almost certainly face sanctions after kicking and punching a bloodied Lee Erwin after the final whistle.

Stuttgart88

31/05/2015, 5:23 PM

Classy institution.

BonnieShels

01/06/2015, 4:15 PM

I never go for any of this pro-Celtic or anti-Rangers stuff but I have to say that Motherwell victory warmed the cockles mightily.

DeLorean

02/06/2015, 9:27 AM

It must be very worrying for them to have been beaten so emphatically. Motherwell lost 22 of their 38 league games this season, averaging just a goal a game. For every season they're not promoted you can safely add two more Championships for Celtic minimum I'd imagine. Celtic will never have a better opportunity to do the elusive 10 in a row as well as making serious inroads into Rangers' league title record, which currently stands at 54-46.

OwlsFan

02/06/2015, 11:52 AM

Interesting to see the Motherwell supporters taunting the Rangers supporters at the end of the game. In my ignorance of Scottish football, I thought they were all cut from the same tartan but I suppose club loyalties overcome all other loyalties. Losing that play-off will certainly do little for the over-stretched bank balance of the boys in blue.

OwlsFan

03/06/2015, 1:02 PM

One for you Rangers' gloaters :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJlM7TY5LLA&feature=youtu.be

DannyInvincible

12/06/2015, 1:57 AM

Celtic lead the way in introducing safe standing: http://www.the42.ie/celtic-park-standing-2151597-Jun2015/

BonnieShels

12/06/2015, 8:38 AM

Summer soccer wanted by a majority of top-flight clubs in Scotland.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33078273

http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/scottish-football-summer-schedule-would-5861647

Also, can the thread title be changed to SPFL rather than SPL.

OwlsFan

03/09/2015, 9:24 AM

The Rangers saga continues: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2015/0902/725270-top-brass-at-rangers/

"A group of around 20 supporters also shouted and tried to jostle the ashen-faced former Sheffield United chief executive". - like something you'd read in Private Eye.

geysir

03/09/2015, 10:36 AM

OwlsFan

08/02/2016, 9:19 AM

Had a choice of viewing on Sunday between Arsenal and Bournemouth or Hearts and Hibs. I like the Edinburgh derbies so I opted for the latter and was well rewarded. Two excellent goals by Hearts in the first half and the long-suffering Hibs fans looked like having another depressing day until Hibs scored twice in the last ten minutes or so. The joy among the Hibernian supporters was a joy to behold. There must be few thrills in the world better than a last minute goal against a local rival at whatever level. Hearts then went down the other end and had one cleared off the line. Stokes didn't do much it has to be said but he played the full 90.

TheOneWhoKnocks

28/02/2016, 12:59 AM

Josh Magennis makes complaint about fan abuse relating to his "Irish" nationality. Hearts can't understand what the issue is because it didn't pertain to his color, religion or sexuality.

"The alleged abusive remark related to the player being Irish. The player is from Northern Ireland. To clarify, this allegation does not involve the player's colour, religion or sexuality.

Scottish football really has its head still firmly in the sand when it comes to sectarian/racist abuse directed towards Irish players.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/kilmarnock-player-josh-magennis-makes-police-complaint-about-alleged-fan-abuse-34493324.html

Embarrassing in this day and age.

Charlie Darwin

28/02/2016, 1:39 AM

That's a selective reading. It sounds like Hearts understand it and are taking it seriously, albeit they're probably well aware of the anti-Irish element in their support.

OwlsFan

03/03/2016, 9:12 AM

Could the impossible happen? Celtic held at home by Dundee. Gap closes to two points. Aberdeen will miss Rooney though.

pineapple stu

03/03/2016, 9:15 AM

Gap is four points - five if you count Celtic's huge goal difference advantage.

Too big to catch up I'd say - Celtic are scoring far more, while Aberdeen are ekeing out the wins. You'd imagine the latter approach is more likely to lead to a slip up.

CraftyToePoke

09/03/2016, 3:07 AM

You'd imagine the latter approach is more likely to lead to a slip up.

You deem this to be an actual approach ? Surely more a case of that being their natural margin in games. Slightly better most outings. I'd wager if they were capable of being three up after an hour every week, they would chose that.

DeLorean

09/03/2016, 7:38 AM

Could be wrong but I'd say you might have taken him too literally there Crafty! :)

Brilliant win for Aberdeen last night, turning a 1-0 deficit with less than twenty minutes left into a 2-1 win away to Partick. Only a point in it now with Celtic having a game in hand.

I kind of want Celtic to win ten-in-a-row though just to annoy the other crowd.

Wolfman

09/03/2016, 9:00 AM

Celtic have been playing terrible of late, so don't be surprised if the Sheep do it.

pineapple stu

09/03/2016, 9:06 AM

You deem this to be an actual approach ? Surely more a case of that being their natural margin in games. Slightly better most outings. I'd wager if they were capable of being three up after an hour every week, they would chose that.
Approach is the wrong word alright. But you know what I mean.

ArdeeBhoy

09/03/2016, 6:49 PM

Celtic have been pish of late, Ronnie is the fall guy and rightly so. Far too defensive in the main.
:mad:

DeLorean

06/04/2016, 11:49 AM

So... we're allowed mention Rangers on here again :)

I thought there was a touch of irony last night when one of the SSN presenters said "Up in Scotland, Rangers celebrate as Celtic are left frustrated again", or something like that. I think I'd prefer my team to have moved another point closer a 5th SPL in-a-row rather than even consider celebrating needing two attempts to get out of the 2nd tier.

I must admit though, I find the whole 'new club' banter grating at this stage. Even if it is technically true.

CraftyToePoke

07/04/2016, 4:23 PM

I must admit though, I find the whole 'new club' banter grating at this stage. Even if it is technically true.

Does the new Rangers entity hold the honours list the previous one did or not ? I don't pay huge attention to them to be honest, but we have had so many incarnations of Limerick FC even in my lifetime, but in our minds eye its the same club and hard to argue otherwise.

geysir

07/04/2016, 6:03 PM

DeLorean

07/04/2016, 10:06 PM

Does the new Rangers entity hold the honours list the previous one did or not ?

The Rangers fans will say yes, the Celtic fans will say no. Technically speaking I suppose they shouldn't but, like Geysir says, it's up to themselves. Everybody knows they're still the same shower they always were so why bother splitting hairs, just to annoy them obviously but it's getting very old very fast I think.

geysir

08/04/2016, 10:37 AM

There was also an argument that the (old :)) Rangers be stripped of those tainted SPL titles that they won during their tax fraudulent, financial doping years. But in football, not even a proven case of bribery (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/dec/11/nottingham-forest-anderlecht-match-fixing-scandal-1984) of the ref can alter a result.

Stuttgart88

08/04/2016, 1:33 PM

Will Ronnie Deila keep his job? I doubt it. The CEO and board are smart enough to know he was just good enough to beat Aberdeen & co but that next year will be tougher. Need some better players too.

DeLorean

08/04/2016, 5:59 PM

Deila keeps winning leagues with Celtic but has been poor in Europe. Is it just me or is that kind of similar to the job Guardiola is doing with Bayern? :)

CraftyToePoke

08/04/2016, 6:37 PM

Will Ronnie Deila keep his job? I doubt it. The CEO and board are smart enough to know he was just good enough to beat Aberdeen & co but that next year will be tougher. Need some better players too.

Be hard to look good canning a guy who just delivered a league title but if a few games in next season they are lagging behind a resurgent blue half of town, he might as well go keys, wallet, phone, passport, airport on it.

nigel-harps1954

10/04/2016, 12:58 PM

Does the new Rangers entity hold the honours list the previous one did or not ? I don't pay huge attention to them to be honest, but we have had so many incarnations of Limerick FC even in my lifetime, but in our minds eye its the same club and hard to argue otherwise.

You could ask the same of Derry, Galway and Cork fans.

There's a good friend of mine whose a Derry fan. He didn't quite get the irony of his Facebook post on Rangers celebrations the other day while supporting a club he only a few weeks earlier lauded a record over Finn Harps before our derby game.

Fans of the clubs will always see it as the same club. Rivals will always claim different. People who don't give a sh!t will simply, well, not give a sh!t.

OwlsFan

12/04/2016, 10:25 AM

Well the rights to the Trade Mark RANGERS were assigned from The Rangers Football Club plc to Sevco Scotland Limited to Sportsdirect.com Retail Limited and finally to The Rangers Football Club Limited, the current trading company, so legally it is probably correct to say that the chain of title is complete. What is a club after all but a name, a stadium and even the jersey worn. People are not bothered about who owns a club, until relegation looms or they change to change the name (Hull City to Hull) or the club colours (Cardiff from blue to red).

At the end of the day they're back and let battle recommence...

BonnieShels

17/04/2016, 11:05 PM

I watched a lot of soccer today.
Leicester v West Ham
Atletico v Granada
Arsenal v Palace (though I switched that off to watch snooker)
Barca v Valencia...

As well as Celtic v Rangers. And by God was that a turgid game of football. Despite all the apparent bite that you would have expected in an Old Firm clash, it was so poor and lacking in anything that would come close to redemption.
Even the penalty shootout was meh. Though it was nice to see Scott Brown miss it.

Celtic are woeful and have been for a while now. That Rangers side showed a some gut and ability where Celtic looked drained and out of ideas and it doesn't bode well for 2016/17.

One things for certain, Deila will be given his P45 in May.

DeLorean

18/04/2016, 8:03 AM

Scott Brown's was just saved wasn't it? It was a real mixture of some very good penalties and some really bad ones. Celtic couldn't get their noses in front at any stage, even in the shoot-out when they had two very good opportunities after Rangers misses. That was some miss from the Manchester City loanee and what an effort from Griffiths from the free kick. Overall Rangers passed the ball better though and Celtic certainly didn't look like a team that have played the last four years at a higher level. It might be a (very well disguised) blessing for Celtic though in the long run, they know they'll need to up their game significantly now, starting with a better/more suitable manager.

BonnieShels

18/04/2016, 9:19 AM

That's a very optimistic way of looking at it.
Rangers look like they are battle hardened Celtic just look devoid of joy or any will to go on.

It's hard to give the shootout too much credit after enduring that extra time before it. I was possibly just jaded. Lee Griffith's peno was great. Looked like he'd miss with his demeanour when he stepped up.

And you're right re Brown, I was confusing his oeno with Rogic's, I just remember revelling in his misery at that moment.

CraftyToePoke

19/04/2016, 1:56 AM

So how did Kiernan look ?

DeLorean

20/04/2016, 9:54 AM

Ronny gone at the end of the season (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36091138)

DeLorean

20/04/2016, 1:42 PM

Lennon's game! (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36093274)

OwlsFan

20/04/2016, 4:36 PM

Lennon's game! (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36093274)

Would they want someone back who thought managing Bolton was a bigger job than Celtic?

bennocelt

20/04/2016, 7:11 PM

Would they want someone back who thought managing Bolton was a bigger job than Celtic?

Is it not though? :D

Charlie Darwin

22/04/2016, 1:07 AM

One things for certain, Deila will be given his P45 in May.
Ouch, so close.

Stuttgart88

22/04/2016, 11:47 AM

Probably technically true.

OwlsFan

12/05/2016, 2:15 PM

Shame to see former UEFA Cup winners Dundee United relegated. They have now appointed the Raith Rovers manager, Ray McKinnon, to be their manager. It's good for the SPL that Rangers are back for it can't really afford to be without clubs like Hibernian and Dundee United for too long.

DeLorean

12/05/2016, 2:24 PM

Hibernian lost their playoff 2-3 on aggregate so they'll start remain in the second tier for the third successive year.

tetsujin1979

12/05/2016, 2:40 PM

Hibernian lost their playoff 2-3 on aggregate so they'll start remain in the second tier for the third successive year.
nope, that was only the first leg against Falkirk, playing the second leg in Falkirk this weekend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_Scottish_Premiership#Premiership_p lay-offs