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radar
19/08/2005, 11:20 PM
Obviously very dissapointing but certainly not the end of the world. Tough task. I had a good bet on City today so was confident beforehand. In retrospect it was asking too much of the team. They're not machines. You can throw in all the old soccer cliches but sometimes they are true. If we were offered this position at the start of the season we would have grabbed it. Bad day at the office etc. In a way it reaffirms the task ahead of City. Derry are genuine challengers. This is the part where Damien Richardson gets tested. He looked a bit forlorn at the final whistle. I think much depends on John O' Flynn and i wish i wasn't saying that. We will need a run of goals from him. I cant see it any other way. By way of debate does anyone think he should be dropped and Behan or Bruton get a chance? Flynn is away with the fairies at the moment and i hope he returns soon. His confidence has hit a real low point but one goal could change all that. Should City persevere or give one of the other lads a chance? Behan's scoring rate has been good.

superfrank
19/08/2005, 11:23 PM
I taped the match, I had to go to the Bray match first, and watching it it looked like Derry knew how to turn up the pressure when they wanted and what a goal by Molloy!!

Schunter Netz
19/08/2005, 11:34 PM
Molloys goal looked great on slo-mo, but he admitted afterwards that it was a mis-hit shot, wouldn't happen again in a thousand attempts. City were pressing and would have got a draw at least. That said, Derry were brilliant in the first half, easily the best attacking team in the league. Cork can match them for creative play but don't have the threat...Fenn offers touch, intelligence, surprise and the odd goal..O'Flynn gives us sulks, dummy runs, the odd feint and the odder goal. He doesn't play any link football with the team, doesn't pass within sight of goal, so goals are his only asset. Tonight he missed sitters. Behan would have looked worse and scored at least one. We need a striker.

That said, the challenge presented now is better than having a 'cushion' of six or more points. We will win the league from here if we are better than Derry over 11 games, including a last day against them at the Cross.

lim abroad
19/08/2005, 11:36 PM
bad result for ye alright,hopefully ye can recover quickly from this and get back to winning ways

The Stars
19/08/2005, 11:42 PM
Molloys goal looked great on slo-mo, but he admitted afterwards that it was a mis-hit shot, wouldn't happen again in a thousand attempts
he said he miss hit it but then he said "ah no"jokingly.He clearly ment it and what a way to cap a fine preformance.
Anyway great match,plenty of talking points but brilliant entertainment. Good to see such a big and vocal crowd,i sign that the Eircom league is alive and well and is begining to hold its own and the English League.

radar
19/08/2005, 11:59 PM
Good to see such a big and vocal crowd,i sign that the Eircom league is alive and well and is begining to hold its own and the English League.
The Shels Bohs match was held back 10 minutes due to the crowd. Apparently a big attendance there too. And as you say re the support at Derry, well done to them. Nobody likes losing but i prefer being beaten by Derry than a Dublin team. I have always found their fans polite and friendly. What has maybe impressed the people who watch soccer on TV is the passion of the support from Cork and Derry. Hopefully anyway. So well done Derry but all going well i hope a trophy is awarded the next time ye play Cork. To Cork obviously.

Speranza
20/08/2005, 12:05 AM
Was a great advertisment for the league! Best atmosphere ever at the Brandy (except Harps play-off possibly). At the end the City fans went over to the Corkies and we all sang a rousing "**** the dubs" and "Ollie Byrne is a footie hooligan", was superb and a legendary city and el moment. Hand-shakes and good wishes all around, most of the Cork support is away on the lash now with city fans. Enjoy and safe journey!

radar
20/08/2005, 12:54 AM
Was a great advertisment for the league! Best atmosphere ever at the Brandy (except Harps play-off possibly). At the end the City fans went over to the Corkies and we all sang a rousing "**** the dubs" and "Ollie Byrne is a footie hooligan", was superb and a legendary city and el moment. Hand-shakes and good wishes all around, most of the Cork support is away on the lash now with city fans. Enjoy and safe journey!
Well said mate. If it was Shels who beat us they would on here hammering us. Fair play to you. Safe journey home is the important thing. Tough on the Cork City fans who travelled. All i can say is this for me is message of the month.

harry crumb
20/08/2005, 11:09 AM
Great post!

Flynny was dangerous last night and just didnt put the ball in the net.

ccfcgirl
20/08/2005, 11:27 AM
Last night was a great result for Derry .It is now a 2 horse race .Great to hear both sets of fans got on so well.The last game of the season should see alot of Derry fans come to Cork .Great credit is due to Stephan Kenny.

FlyingColumnist
20/08/2005, 1:23 PM
How long have we heard "he's just lacking a bit of confidence" about O'Flynn. Behan was banging in goals before he got injured and he probably would have buried one of Flynny's chances last night. Suggesting that an off-form player should be replaced by a proven goal scorer is not getting on anyone's back. O'Flynn covers a lot of ground, but so does a headless chicken. :eek:

Fair_play_boy
20/08/2005, 5:51 PM
. . . the challenge presented now is better than having a 'cushion' of six or more points.Well said. I believe that our team will play to a higher standard knowing that Derry are snapping at their heels. I also think that as we enter the final series of 11 games with such a slim advantage, the home and away support will be a lot bigger.

Dyl10
20/08/2005, 8:14 PM
Obviously very dissapointing but certainly not the end of the world. Tough task. I had a good bet on City today so was confident beforehand. In retrospect it was asking too much of the team. They're not machines. You can throw in all the old soccer cliches but sometimes they are true. If we were offered this position at the start of the season we would have grabbed it. Bad day at the office etc. In a way it reaffirms the task ahead of City. Derry are genuine challengers. This is the part where Damien Richardson gets tested. He looked a bit forlorn at the final whistle. I think much depends on John O' Flynn and i wish i wasn't saying that. We will need a run of goals from him. I cant see it any other way. By way of debate does anyone think he should be dropped and Behan or Bruton get a chance? Flynn is away with the fairies at the moment and i hope he returns soon. His confidence has hit a real low point but one goal could change all that. Should City persevere or give one of the other lads a chance? Behan's scoring rate has been good.

no way would i start Behan or Bruton they are not title winning forwards

radar
20/08/2005, 9:04 PM
I only mentioned the O Flynn issue "by way of debate". Surely raising a topic here dosen't amount to getting on a players back. I share your doubts about Behan. But whoever is picked gets my full and absolute support. Flynny is snatching at chances and rushing things at the moment. He seems anxious when in with a chance. I would give anything for him to start banging them in and like i said City may well need this to happen. And what of Bruton? He is a recent purchase so Richardson must have some faith in him. But regardless we all support the same club.

razor
20/08/2005, 10:47 PM
Very disappointing game from a CCFC perspective. We weren't up for it on the night and were caught cold early on. Derry closed us down well and gave us no time on the ball. We had no width at all with Liam and Roy not really in the game.
We got a lucky penalty but after 21 years of oppression by LOI refs its too little too late in my view. Dan was caught out bad for the goal, I'd say Stephen O'Flynn couldn't believe his luck. If we hadn't conceded then I reckon we'd have escaped with a draw.
Thought Dan could have walked for his foul on Farren but then the Derry full back Brennans 2 footed lunge after 25 mins or so could have seen him walk also.
Their penalty shout looked valid enough at first but on further reflection the shot hit Bennett on the thigh and ricocheted up onto his arm, it would have been a harsh call.
I do think a few of our lads looked jaded but 6 days off now should help some bit.
Of course a few doubts can creep in now but we must remain positive, remember lads the title is in our own hands. we're still top of the league.

Fair_play_boy
20/08/2005, 11:36 PM
. . . denis behan referred to as a 'PROVEN GOALSCORER' ..what drugs are u on . . . ..he has 4 goals i think this season..not bad granted but lets be honest everybody is siuprised to see his name on the scoresheet....open to correction here but is he not our top scorer???As far as I remember, he scored those four goals in consecutive games early in the season, including a vital away goal at Flancare early on, and that contender for goal of the season against Shels in the home leg of the Setanta Cup. He broke a cheek bone then and missed out on 5 or 6 weeks. So, he hardly can be blamed for not being on the scoresheet more often. :rolleyes:

dcfcsteve
20/08/2005, 11:39 PM
Molloys goal looked great on slo-mo, but he admitted afterwards that it was a mis-hit shot, wouldn't happen again in a thousand attempts.

As mentioned earlier, Molloy said it was an accident purely in jest. He said he saw a chance and took it.

If you're in any doubt as to his intentions when he hit that ball, just look at the position of his body when he hits it on the replays on Eircom league Weekly. His stance was that of someone taking a targetted shot - not just dropping the ball into the box. There is a clear difference in body position when you hit a ball to do those 2 things, and it shows very clearly in Molloy.

Poor Student
21/08/2005, 10:30 AM
At the end the City fans went over to the Corkies and we all sang a rousing "**** the dubs"

Which Dubs would they be? The ones both clubs owe their success to this season? :rolleyes:

pete
21/08/2005, 3:23 PM
I haven't seen the match on tv yet but is strange when can lose 1-3 & believe seen game of the season.

Credit for Derry in upping the tempo of the game from the start i assume in belief we could be tired from so many games. Cork City didn't play to their best but took crap defending & fluke goal to beat us. Overall though can't argue with the result.

I'm still optimistic for the rest of the season as we didn't panic when losing & kept passing the ball.

O'Flynn is living off reputation. Its not acceptable that can only get shot on target 1-2 times from 6-7 chances. 7 League goals in probably 20 games is not good enough!

Well done to both sets of fans at the game & afterwards. Some great banter 7 not a hint of trouble.

Dyl10
21/08/2005, 3:27 PM
But regardless we all support the same club.

I dont support your club!! Im a neutral :p

patsh
21/08/2005, 6:12 PM
Great post!

Flynny was dangerous last night and just didnt put the ball in the net.
He can be as dangerous as he likes, if he is not putting the ball in the net, he is no good to us.
I seriously think we could lose out on the title because, at the moment, our main striker couldn't hit a barn door from 5 yards....:(

radar
21/08/2005, 6:37 PM
I dont support your club!! Im a neutral :p

Sorry mate. I was referring the discussion about John O' Flynn which i'd say only City fans were posting about. I love the way other teams fans and neutrals post here. The more opinions the better i think. I notice on the Premier homepage that the posts on the Cork City site outnumber the posts from all other clubs combined! 68,000 or so. This is where its at. Generally you will get a reply here or at least know people are taking the time to consider your points. An interesting stat though isnt it?

radar
21/08/2005, 6:44 PM
Which Dubs would they be? The ones both clubs owe their success to this season? :rolleyes:

Thats a really good point. I think we all know deep down its only a bit of craic. Stephen Kenny and Damien Richardson deserve great credit for their performance and demeanour this season while others have let the Dublin name down. Its all just fun and games. Winding the opposing fans up is the intention.

Mine'sABulmers
21/08/2005, 8:53 PM
O'Flynn covers a lot of ground, but so does a headless chicken. :eek:
just read - lol