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samhaydenjr
10/08/2023, 2:42 AM
I have seen nothing of him, absolutely nothing, so I ask this question purely out of curiosity - does he jump straight to the head of the line in terms of call ups for the Irish squad in September? Northern Ireland (Bradley, Marshall, Charles), Wales (Ampadu, Williams) and Scotland (Gilmour) have all done it with young players who are on the fringes of the first team squads or match day squads at bigger, more competitive clubs. Or does he need to prove himself a bit more first?
Unless he singlehandedly keeps out the Man City and Liverpool attacks over the first three games, it'd have to be a no. We have a number of uncapped players who you could say are capable of being in the squad and probably will be in the squad in the future, but should not be in the squad over our current players for the remainder of the campaign. Next realistic opportunities for those players would likely be Spring friendlies (if we don't make the play-offs), Summer friendlies (if we get knocked out in the playoffs) or Nations League (if we actually qualify), barring someone pulling an Evan Ferguson
Fixer82
10/08/2023, 9:03 AM
Remember Alan O'Brien had more caps for us than appearances for Newcastle? :-)
He was a speed-demon but seemed to lack confidence. I remember watching him play for Newcastle (possibly in a pre-season friendly) and nobody would pass to him. Went to Hibs I think
Eirambler
10/08/2023, 9:10 AM
Yes, he was useless at Hibs too. All speed and nothing else. Only got those Ireland caps because his agent was friends with Stan or something like that I think.
Razors left peg
10/08/2023, 11:28 AM
It's not something we tend to do, Scotland don't generally do it either. Wales and NI do it for two reasons - lack of player depth and to try to tie dual eligible players down. We have a lot more depth available to us, albeit not necessarily depth of quality at left back.
I think the best Murphy can hope for if he stays at Newcastle this season is being a Premier League bench player who maybe gets a late run out or two in the league and starts in early round EFL cup games. The likes of Joe Hodge not getting a call-up from that position suggests that Murphy wouldn't either.
After Christmas there are a lot more variables, he might have kicked on, or gone on loan, and there will almost certainly be a new Ireland manager by then, so anything could happen at that point.
Evan Ferguson was called in before he was a regular at Brighton so it's possible. As others have said let's see how the start of season goes. Lots of young players have good preseasons and are never seen again. It would be remarkable if he did get into that Newcastle squad considering the buying power they have, and if he does he has to become an option in a problem position for us
Yard of Pace
10/08/2023, 10:36 PM
He was a speed-demon but seemed to lack confidence. I remember watching him play for Newcastle (possibly in a pre-season friendly) and nobody would pass to him. Went to Hibs I think
He was a few years behind me in primary school and if anything, he was over-confident. I remember a sour-face, clutching the ball under his arm. I didn't remember him being an outstanding footballer mind, and there were several in my school (with loads of skill and minus level application), as there is in most schools.
There was an incident where he pinched my goalkeeper gloves also. But, in fairness, he gave them back when the situation was explained by a teacher.
One of our oddest caps for Ireland.
Trequartista20
11/08/2023, 5:18 PM
Ah, telling tales out of class!
It might be suggested he misappropriated a few Ireland caps, too...
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