Barstooler

[monutdfc]

Great word! Makes me laugh the way people use it as an ordinary everyday noun on foot.ie and know exactly what it means (whichever side of the debate they're on), without it ever having been taught in school or being in any dictionary.
Does it exist outside of the foot.ie lexicon? (I'm sure it was in use on Johnny Ward's old site, but apart from that...?)
Will there be a rush of posters now to claim to have coined the phrase?

[Peadar]

Does it exist outside of the foot.ie lexicon?

I suppose it's the modern day, Hurler on the ditch, in some respects.
It didn't originate on Irish football forums though, surely?

[monutdfc]

Just remembered the other phrase that made me laugh: "Andy Gray's Barstool Army" :D :D

[Sheridan]

I first encountered it on JW's forum circa 2001. The contemporary "Premiersh1t" appears to have fallen into disuse.

[Cosmo]

Eh I went up for a prematch pint in dalyer before Rovers V Derry (paid in and all) but ended up watching the match from the comfort of my bar stool in the bar in dalyer on setanta.

Would that classify me as a barstooler I wonder :)

[Peadar]

Would that classify me as a barstooler I wonder :)


No, because your own team weren't playing. ;)

[A face]

Would that classify me as a barstooler I wonder :)



No, because your own team weren't playing. ;)

I dunno ... technically it is though ain't it !!! :p

[Peadar]

technically it is though ain't it !!! :p

Have we technically defined the term?

I guess it's someone who is in a position to attend a game but choses to watch it or a game in another league, on TV.
That's still very broad though.

[pete]

Eh I went up for a prematch pint in dalyer before Rovers V Derry (paid in and all) but ended up watching the match from the comfort of my bar stool in the bar in dalyer on setanta.


I don't know if you're a barstooler but its still fairly sad. ;)

[A face]

That's still very broad though.


Agreed .... which bar was it anyway Cosmo ?? .... might help us define it more !! :p

[Cosmo]

'I don't know if you're a barstooler but its still fairly sad.'

Is it that sad though? A choice of derrys drum going through my head or watching the match on a quality big screen over a couple of pints, given the chance I'd make the same choice ;) !!

[pete]

Is it that sad though? A choice of derrys drum going through my head or watching the match on a quality big screen over a couple of pints, given the chance I'd make the same choice ;) !!

Definitely a barstooler.
Do you also sit in the bar in United Park watching the game?

:D

[Cosmo]

Definitely a barstooler.
Do you also sit in the bar in United Park watching the game?

:D

It's actually an alright view from the bar in United Park (a regular enough drogs poster on here watches the whole match from there -is he a 'barstooler' :o ?) - might watch a few minutes of the 2nd half from up there if i dont finish my half time pint quick enough though ;) .

I'd say theres alot of versions what a bar stooler is though tbh

[Eire06]

BarStooler IMO is someone who just goes to the pub to watch games and never goes to the actual stadiums to watch them and claims to be a true and true fan

[dcfcsteve]

Never thought of it before, but Barstooler is a superb word. Just like 'banjo player', it opens up a world of meaning that only those familiar with the word can comprehend.

Here's a go at defining it :

Barstooler : Noun (bar' stool- er)

Sports
1) A person who claims to be a passionate follower of a sports team, even though their active support is confined solely to the TV screen of a public house or bar.
2) A variation on the theme of 'armchair supporter'.
3) Commonly found throughout Ireland, usually associated with certain English and Scottish teams, and almost always in possession of a Sky viewing card.

Barstooling : Verb (bar' stool-een)

1) Partaking in the activity of following your favourite sports team solely from the confines of a pub.

[OneRedArmy]

Barstooler: def. an Irishman or women who identifies themselves as a football fan but watches exclusively foreign league football and Irish international matches almost, exclusively on television.

See also "ole ole brigade" and "fair weather fan".

[Cosmo]

'See also "ole ole brigade" and "fair weather fan".'

Thats the majority of Lansdowne so :mad:

[BohDiddley]

Needs an update, in my view. 'Barstooler' implies going down the local to watch it on Sky, whereas most of the people we mean to label are actually sitting at home, having paid subscriptions and PPV to Murdoch and English clubs. Just like people in Japan and China ...
Is there a better term?

[Sheridan]

Needs an update, in my view. 'Barstooler' implies going down the local to watch it on Sky, whereas most of the people we mean to label are actually sitting at home, having paid subscriptions and PPV to Murdoch and English clubs. Just like people in Japan and China ...
Is there a better term?
"Gullible braindead f*ckmuppet" works for me.

[BohDiddley]

And for me, but it's lost on the target audience!

[OneRedArmy]

Needs an update, in my view. 'Barstooler' implies going down the local to watch it on Sky, whereas most of the people we mean to label are actually sitting at home, having paid subscriptions and PPV to Murdoch and English clubs. Just like people in Japan and China ...
Is there a better term?

How about locationally-challenged supporters?

[Éanna]

How about locationally-challenged supporters?
I like it :D :D :D

[Bosco]

Just remembered the other phrase that made me laugh: "Andy Gray's Barstool Army" :D :D

Prefer "Andy Grays Armchair Army", better aliteration

[ThatGuy]

My interpretation of the term is that it is in relation to someone whose sole experience/knowledge of club football is from watching it on television.

[Poor Student]

Hmmmm, someone who goes over to Britain regularly to watch their choosen club is not a barstooler, yet are they ranked better or worse in the eyes of eL fans?

[hoops1]

Maybe this should be a new thread!however
The only games a barstooler goes to is the Ireland games!
Am i the only person that cant stand his own countrys fans?
Go to an Ireland match and the crap coming out of the fans is something
you wouldnt hear in an EL ground!
The ole ole brigade do my head in and anyone who sings ole ole at a game
should be sent to watch UCD for a year or shot!
As for people wearing them leprechaun outfits an embarrassment to the country!
These people are barstoolers at heart
Id be very interested to hear views on Ireland supporters/the real barstoolers

[ThatGuy]

I agree with you hoops1.

I don't have an inbred hatred of the Premiership. I don't support any team in it but I enjoy watching it and its a great league.

[Schumi]

The ole ole brigade do my head in and anyone who sings ole ole at a game should be sent to watch UCD for a year or shot!
Shoot them please!! :eek: :eek:

[Poor Student]

The ole ole brigade do my head in and anyone who sings ole ole at a game
should be sent to watch UCD for a year


Why should they be rewarded with watching one of the top sides in the country? :confused:

[Bald Student]

Why should they be rewarded with watching one of the top sides in the country? :confused:I think he meant that they could learn a thing or two from our massive, vocal support.

[Poor Student]

I think he meant that they could learn a thing or two from our massive, vocal support.

You'd need to learn Spanish first. :D

[dcfcsteve]

Needs an update, in my view. 'Barstooler' implies going down the local to watch it on Sky, whereas most of the people we mean to label are actually sitting at home, having paid subscriptions and PPV to Murdoch and English clubs. Just like people in Japan and China ...
Is there a better term?

Armchair supporters........

[BohDiddley]

Footiephobics ...

[Peadar]

Barstooling goes mainstream... (http://www.nationalpubweek.co.uk/default.htm) :eek: :eek: :eek:

[razor]

Barstooling goes mainstream... (http://www.nationalpubweek.co.uk/default.htm) :eek: :eek: :eek:Couldn't make out if it was El Tel or Michael Flatley.

[dcfcsteve]

What's the actual idea of National Pub whatever week ? Watching footie in a boozer ? Ooooh - that's a unique and under-represented activity that needs promoting........ :confused:

Love the way they've put the tricolour down in-place of the Norn Iron flag. Tee-hee.... :)

[Peadar]

Love the way they've put the tricolour down in-place of the Norn Iron flag. Tee-hee.... :)


Spotted that too. :)
They did put the Ireland v France game in as one of the fixtures though.

[CollegeTillIDie]

In response to the question as to whether the supporters who travel to watch football are better or worse than barstoolers. The answer is they are better. As they actually attend matches watching their so -called teams there is a snowball's chance in hell they could be tempted to an EL game especially during the months of June ,July or even early August.

The barstoolers should be gelded as they are unfit to breed. :D

As regards sentencing them to support UCD, well our ground is not the same size as Croke Park so where would be put them all? :confused:

[sligoman]

The contemporary "Premiersh1t" appears to have fallen into disuse.I know one poster who uses it quite often

[CollegeTillIDie]

Premiersh1t; premiersh1t ; premiersh1t.... sung to the air of Here We go :D

[Dodge]

Heard Gerry Adams talk about "barstool Republicans" doing more harm than good to the republican cause... Either he's a foot.ie regular or its not exclusively ours...