Saturday teaser

[silentbob]

first one to name Irelands squad for Italia 90' wins!!!

[silentbob]

No takers?

[finn]

1 GK Pat Bonner 24 May 1960 Glasgow Celtic (SCO)
2 DF Chris Morris 24 Dec 1963 Glasgow Celtic (SCO)
3 DF Steve Staunton 19 Jan 1969 Liverpool (ENG)
4 DF Mick McCarthy 07 Feb 1959 Luton Town (ENG)
5 DF Kevin Moran 29 Apr 1956 Blackburn Rovers (ENG)
6 MD Ronnie Whelan 25 Sep 1961 Liverpool (ENG)
7 DF Paul McGrath 04 Dec 1959 Aston Villa (ENG)
8 MD Ray Houghton 09 Jan 1962 Liverpool (ENG)
9 FW John Aldridge 18 Sep 1958 Real Sociedad (SPA)
10 FW Tony Cascarino 01 Sep 1962 Aston Villa (ENG)
11 MD Kevin Sheedy 21 Oct 1959 Everton (ENG)
12 DF David O'Leary 02 May 1958 Arsenal (ENG)
13 MD Andy Townsend 23 Jul 1963 Norwich City (ENG)
14 DF Chris Hughton 11 Dec 1958 Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)
15 FW Bernie Slaven 13 Nov 1960 Middlesbrough (ENG)
16 MD John Sheridan 01 Oct 1964 Sheffield Wednesday (ENG)
17 FW Niall Quinn 06 Oct 1966 Manchester City (ENG)
18 FW Frank Stapleton 10 Jul 1956 Blackburn Rovers (ENG)
19 FW David Kelly 25 Nov 1965 Leicester City (ENG)
20 MD John Byrne 01 Feb 1961 Le Havre (FRA)
21 MD Alan McLoughlin 20 Apr 1967 Swindon Town (ENG)
22 GK Gerry Peyton 20 May 1956 Bournemouth (ENG)

Coach: Jackie Charlton (ENG) 08 May 1935

Google is a great thing :|

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[superfrank]

3 DF Steve Staunton 19 Jan 1969 Liverpool (ENG)

Steve Staunton's only 36!!!

Do you think, now that he's left Conemtry, that he'd come back here a la Curtis Fleming?

[Qwerty]

1 GK Pat Bonner 24 May 1960 Glasgow Celtic (SCO)
2 DF Chris Morris 24 Dec 1963 Glasgow Celtic (SCO)
3 DF Steve Staunton 19 Jan 1969 Liverpool (ENG)
4 DF Mick McCarthy 07 Feb 1959 Luton Town (ENG)
5 DF Kevin Moran 29 Apr 1956 Blackburn Rovers (ENG)
6 MD Ronnie Whelan 25 Sep 1961 Liverpool (ENG)
7 DF Paul McGrath 04 Dec 1959 Aston Villa (ENG)
8 MD Ray Houghton 09 Jan 1962 Liverpool (ENG)
9 FW John Aldridge 18 Sep 1958 Real Sociedad (SPA)
10 FW Tony Cascarino 01 Sep 1962 Aston Villa (ENG)
11 MD Kevin Sheedy 21 Oct 1959 Everton (ENG)
12 DF David O'Leary 02 May 1958 Arsenal (ENG)
13 MD Andy Townsend 23 Jul 1963 Norwich City (ENG)
14 DF Chris Hughton 11 Dec 1958 Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)
15 FW Bernie Slaven 13 Nov 1960 Middlesbrough (ENG)
16 MD John Sheridan 01 Oct 1964 Sheffield Wednesday (ENG)
17 FW Niall Quinn 06 Oct 1966 Manchester City (ENG)
18 FW Frank Stapleton 10 Jul 1956 Blackburn Rovers (ENG)
19 FW David Kelly 25 Nov 1965 Leicester City (ENG)
20 MD John Byrne 01 Feb 1961 Le Havre (FRA)
21 MD Alan McLoughlin 20 Apr 1967 Swindon Town (ENG)
22 GK Gerry Peyton 20 May 1956 Bournemouth (ENG)

Coach: Jackie Charlton (ENG) 08 May 1935

Google is a great thing :|

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Beware of Google -

4 DF Mick McCarthy 07 Feb 1959 Luton Town (ENG)

Luton??? Big Mick was on loan at Millwall from Lyon at the end of the 89/90 season, he signed full time for Millwall after the season ended. He never played for Luton as far as I know. Barnsley, Man City, Celtic, Lyon & Millwall were his clubs.

[Metrostars]

Which is those players did not play in Italia 90?

[Fergie's Son]

Ronnie Whelan didn't get his game if I recall. Damn shame too. John Sheridan should also have been on the pitch at some point.

[Zidane]

I am sure Ronnie Whelan came on for about 10 minutes, cant remember which game.

Dont think Bernie Slaven played any part.

[Qwerty]

Whelan played a few minutes late in the last game against Italy.

I don't remember any of these lads getting any time -

14 DF Chris Hughton 11 Dec 1958 Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)
15 FW Bernie Slaven 13 Nov 1960 Middlesbrough (ENG)
16 MD John Sheridan 01 Oct 1964 Sheffield Wednesday (ENG)
18 FW Frank Stapleton 10 Jul 1956 Blackburn Rovers (ENG)
19 FW David Kelly 25 Nov 1965 Leicester City (ENG)
20 MD John Byrne 01 Feb 1961 Le Havre (FRA)
22 GK Gerry Peyton 20 May 1956 Bournemouth (ENG)

[Fergie's Son]

I am sure Ronnie Whelan came on for about 10 minutes, cant remember which game.

Dont think Bernie Slaven played any part.

I think against Egypt perhaps?


Remember Gary Waddock!

[jorge]

Steve Staunton's only 36!!!

Do you think, now that he's left Conemtry, that he'd come back here a la Curtis Fleming?
I'd say he could'nt be arsed.

[Qwerty]

I think against Egypt perhaps?


Remember Gary Waddock!

Whelan came on as a sub in the farcical game against The Netherlands. Sheridan actually came on as a sub against Italy.

[Stuttgart88]

. . . . answer: Liam Brady and Ian Botham. BOOM! BOOM! :D

That old Russ Abbott classic!

[OwlsFan]

Whelan came on as a sub in the farcical game against The Netherlands.

It wasn't farcical until the last 10 minutes. I won't forget the ecstacy of that Quinn equaliser. The Dutch band had been driving me mental (again) and it looked as if we on the way home.

[fosterdollar]

Fookin hell that's a pretty agey squad!

[Qwerty]

It wasn't farcical until the last 10 minutes.

It seemed like 100 minutes not 10.

[gustavo]

Fookin hell that's a pretty agey squad!
yeah they must all be in their 40s :D

[Donal81]

Ronnie Whelan didn't get his game if I recall. Damn shame too. John Sheridan should also have been on the pitch at some point.

Whelan was injured, if I remember correctly. He was close to full fitness but Charlton didn't risk him. I was about seven at the time, I can vaguely remember reading a newspaper interview with him before the World Cup while in the Bon Secours hospital in Glasnevin. Didn't Cascarino come on as sub in the Holland game as well?

[fosterdollar]

yeah they must all be in their 40s :D
Well only 7 out of that 22 were under 27 (including Townsend, just about, with two others close as well.)

[gustavo]

yeah i know what u mean it was a quite ageing squad no one under 20 i think quinn was second youngest and he was nearly 24

[Stuttgart88]

Who was the youngest player to be given his first cap by Charlton?

[fosterdollar]

Staunton?

[Stuttgart88]

Probably! I've actually no idea. Wasn't Stan called up for the Euro88 squad without ever having played for Liverpool?

I was thinking maybe Roy Keane but Stan would have been a lot younger.

[Paulie]

Gary Kelly maybe?

[fosterdollar]

Looking around google it looks like Keane was younger. Debuted about 3 months shy of 20 whereas Stan was about the same on the older side.

[Paulie]

Just had a quick check on Gary Kelly. He was born on 09/07/74 so he was 19 when he was first capped. As far as I remember he got his first cap 2 or 3 months before USA '94 so it looks like it's a toss up between himself and Stan.

[fosterdollar]

so it looks like it's a toss up between himself and Stan.
Keane was 19 when he was first capped

[Stuttgart88]

Good call. Do you think Gary Kelly ever fulfilled his early promise? I remember being really excited when he had Ryan Giggs in his pocket at Old Trafford, very early in his career. He had such pace (not like his nephew!) but I thought he was pretty ordinary in the end. In hindsight, I'd have preferred to see him at RB than O'Shea against Israel though.

[Paulie]

I don't think he really delivered on his promise to be honest. I remember a friendly versus holland just before the WC in 1994 and he had a great game against Overmars but his performances waned a bit as time went by, and I'm not just talking about towards the end of his intl. career. The defensive side of his game was generally pretty decent but I always thought that with his pace he could do a bit more in attack. Also his passing was not that great. As strange as it sounds he was one of those footballers that was better when he did not have the ball, a bit like Terry Phelan. It was always great to see Terry going flying up the wing outside Staunton before Stan would release the ball to him. The only problem was that when Terry got the ball he hadn't a clue what to do with it.

[tetsujin1979]

Didn't Kelly score in the friendly against (then world champions) Germany prior to USA '92, only had about 3 or 4 caps at that point? Cracker of a goal too.

What age was Irwin when he made his debut?

[Paulie]

Didn't Kelly score in the friendly against (then world champions) Germany prior to USA '92, only had about 3 or 4 caps at that point? Cracker of a goal too.

What age was Irwin when he made his debut?

Yeah Kelly Scored against Germany in a friendly alright. His shot took a deflection off a defenders leg and looped over the goalies head. Strangely enough his only other intl. goal (V. Cyprus) was nearly the exact same. As for Dennis, I'm not sure about that one but as far as I remember he got capped in one of our first games after Italia 90.

[Donal81]

Irwin got capped against (I think) Morocco in 1990. 24 years old, I think.

[Stuttgart88]

I think Irwin was a late bloomer. The first time I saw him was in an U23 International against Norn Iron at Dalyer. He was still at Oldham at the time. He scored a beauty in a 3-0 win.

If only we still had those kind of games!

[Qwerty]

Niall Quinn was 19 in 1986 when he was capped by Charlton against Iceland.

[Superhoops]

Who was the youngest player to be given his first cap by Charlton?
I think the answer to this might be a player that not many people remember. He was Mark Kelly who played for Portsmouth and who made his debut against Yugoslavia in Dublin in April 1988. He played 4 times in total, his last cap being against Morocco in 1990. When he got his first cap he was 18 and 156 days.

The next youngest capped by Charlton I believe was Mark Kennedy, who was 19 and 128 days when he made his debut against Austria in Vienna in September 1995.

Niall Quinn (19/236 days), Gary Kelly (19/262 days), Steve Staunton (19/278 days) and Roy Keane (19/290 days) were next.

I cannot think of anyone else who was 18 or 19 who was capped by Charlton.

[Superhoops]

I think the answer to this might be a player that not many people remember. He was Mark Kelly who played for Portsmouth and who made his debut against Yugoslavia in Dublin in April 1988. He played 4 times in total, his last cap being against Morocco in 1990. When he got his first cap he was 18 and 156 days.

I cannot think of anyone else who was 18 or 19 who was capped by Charlton.
Just have, Pat Scully got his one and only cap against Tunisia in Dublin in October 1988. He was 18 and 123 days.

Anyone else?