Carmarthen 5-1 Longford Town

[steveyg2004]

Longford are a waste of a European place, and always have been.

Wise up, that is the sort of elitist attitude that has seen the 'minnows' of Europe marginalised from the big teams. European places are earned, and there seems to be a little too much fascism on here about improving 'the co-efficient'. Of course it is a priority but I think the only fans with the right to tear into Longford Town and their players are the Longford fans themselves - It's not really any other fans place to say they 'disgraced' the Eircom League etc

[steveyg2004]

Also lads, may I just say....I and many other Glentoran and Linfield fans will be rooting for you all the way in the League Cup (not sure if you are still in the FAI Cup), and would love to see Longford back in the Setanta Cup next season......seems to me there's alot of jealousy of your great wee club and their domestic achievements around these parts, from fans of clubs who were once a force but are now sh*t. ;)

[Pauro 76]

feeling absolutely sick at the result. was dreading to read this thread. players must have thought they'd had one foot in the next round. but in all fairness a lot of fans thought they did too. havent seen the match reports yet, but i really hope this result doesnt affect our confidence for the rest of the season, but this will be a huge setback and being realistic, we have to get over this. and quickly.

[wws]

every league of ireland club has faced a drubbing in europe at some stage....we feel your pain longford - as for the cork and shels fans having a go - ignore - a lot of these kids only started followin league of ireland in recent seasons - they've no idea of the black black days even for their own clubs

and by the way Longford were there on merit so that rules that argument out straight away

I feared for Longford goin into this tie because they dont seem to have any sort of frontline to my mind...Myler hasnt really reproduced his old form for yiz (i believe some of his tally this season was v non league teams in the cup>?

[CuanaD]

This result is surely the lowest point of the last few years and I just hope the club and players are now strong enough to bounce bak from this setback.

A low point - but there have been a lot of high points in the last few years - I dont begrudge Longford any sucess they get (but i am ****ed off about last nights result - 5:1 ! :mad: ) & there will be more high points in the future.

[Tallanted]

I have never been a huge Matthews fan and some fans just can't see why.. if last night isn't an eye opener then i guess he is still a "god" to some fans.
Last year we were beaten by a poor team from liechtenstein who played in the swiss 2nd division.. some fans use the excuse they had 8 liechtenstein internationals.. so what they were crap. This year we have gone and embarassed Ireland even more by being beaten by a ragball rovers team with 11 pub regulars. Been beaten would have been bad enough but we were humiliated.. Ashamed can't describe the feelings a result like this brings up after a comfortable lead after the 1st leg. Matthews may be our most successful manager ever but when it comes to cracking the league and europe he has bottled it.. I think its time the ahole fooks off back to shels. We have been hurt to often and as a fan I can't take anymore. We don't deserve the chance to represent Ireland in Europe again for a long time.

[Bosco]

Can i just say to all the idiots on here reminding us how bad a defeat that was to fcuk off,you have no idea the pain and embarassment us town fans are feeling at the moment.To the management and players,you are a disgrace and an embarassment.You have embarassed yourselves,the league and your loyal fans.I spent over an hour after the game last night aswell as the last 20 of the game with my head in my hands,i didnt sleep much last night and i didnt want to get out of bed this morning.The embarassment is unreal,no longer can any town fan hold their head high,no longer do i want to wear my jersey to another el teams euro match or an international.Its going to take alot to make me go out to flancare again,as much as i love the club,i cant see myself supporting that shower who have let me down so badly.The worst part is that they wont be able to make up for this,no matter what they do this season,this result will overshadow it.European matches are the most important for the clubs progression,league and fai cups mean fcuk all as far as i'm concerned.To cork and shels,well done,for the last 2 seasons i have watched as your teams progressed in europe through professionalism and good football,i watched your fans enjoying the magic of european football and hoped that this year we would enjoy that too but no.Good luck to cork in the next round and hopefully i'll make it down to cork for the home leg and good luck to shels against bucharest and if you make it through i'll definitely be in tolka for the home leg,not in my town jersey do.
I have been embarassed to be a town fan before lack of fans,lack of atmosphere at games,the result to vaduz,mattthews negative tactics,banning rovers fans and now this is the last straw something needs to change.To Alan,you have been our most successful manager and will always be a legend in flancare,everyone is extremely grateful for what you have done but i'm afraid it may be time for you to leave.I've always been a big supporter and defender of you but no more.I've been able to put up with your negative tactics aslong as you obtained results but i've come to realise that you are just not interested in playing on the ground attacking football.I want a team that go out to win above all else,not defend and hope to sneak a goal.You have brought great success to the cub and kept us stable but stable is no longer enough we want to progress and we cant do that drawing all our games.You said earlier on in the week that it is hard to sign players,when after last night its going to be 100 times harder,no one is going to want to play for us and a fresh start is needed,a major shake up is needed.If matthews does leave it worried me to see who would replace him and would we be taking a chance on someone but i believe we have the players(except a striker) and all we need is a modern manager who can get his players to keep the ball down.
To Digger,you are a legend but you have to hold your hand up and say that you were at fault last night and it dissapoints me that that will be your last european game.
As i've said a major shake up is needed and i cant imagine people coming to flancare unless it happens quickly,now excuse me i'm going for a cry :( :(

[De Town]

Are we going to get a match report at all? Or will we just keep jerking those knees?
Not from me, im too píssed off :mad:

[De Town]

now excuse me i'm going for a cry :( :(
i have got that bit out of the way already :o

[Albert]

Yeah I had my cry last night and most of today :o , Anyway despite the fact that I know we will get abused for this for a long time to come and for all the crap Ive taken from barstoolers today, Ive followed town long enough to be able to take it. What really gets me is how hard even I feel about heading out to Flancare again, to pick myself up. Now make no mistake I will do it, but if its hard for the likes of us we can forget a lot of the sunshine fans for a long time to come. Im worried about how this will affect our season, our gate and our progress as a club its devastating, yes its only a game, but sometimes thats all it takes. I reckon things might have been different for Waterford at the moment if they had won the cup last year, they might not be in the mess they are in they didnt and now they cant get the support in the gate. To Alan Matthews I say, I have been a firm and solid supporter of yours throughout your management. I wont stop supporting you over one result no more so than anyone should be proclaimed a great manager for one result, but there is serious work to be done in the league now and you have a mountain to climb to win back the fans, it can be done but only with a string of very very impressive results and a change in our football. I hope you can do it, but I cant deny that I think this result unnecessarily has left you on the ropes there is no room for any more poor form or poor football. The same goes for the players and all I can hope is that at different times you have beaten everyone in the league, you can do it and you owe it to the fans now to put in some serious performances if you care about them at all. You are probably gutted too, but this result should be a crossroads, either we dry the eyes, pick ourselves up and go out to prove what we really are domestically or we mope around, feel sorry and begin to slide back to the depths. I think the fans have done their bit, its up to manager and player to accept that they may have lost support and prove themselves worthy to win it back......

[Gerrit]

Wtf???? :confused: :confused: Barcelona wouldn't even lower themselves to play them.



They'd only lower themselves if they would not want to play them. Every decent person is disgusted when a club looks down on a more amateur-wise team and think they're too good to play them.

Which is why every Aussie should be ashamed ; Australia leaving the OFC because they feel too good to play Tonga and Vanuatu actually makes them much lower and less respectful than Tonga and Vanuatu. Your post is more or less the same ; you gotta respect those amateurs who sacrifice their spare time to play soccer, and who give themselves 100% despite the many defeats. That's the true spirit of football ; not some overpaid star who feels to good to play the likes of an amateur team.



And taking the European spot away from the Cup is ridiculous. I think it is fantastic that a second or third division team has a chance of qualifying for Europe ; which is why is always hope that a non-Premiership team wins the cup.
Football would not survive if there aren't any more minnows from a low-level league that stun the world by beating a giant. It's those things that keep the sport alive and keep on making it exciting. It's weird to say, but we should all be glad we still have teams like Carmarthen. Just like we should be as happy to have Luxembourg as we are to have Brazil.

[Slash/ED]

Which is why every Aussie should be ashamed ; Australia leaving the OFC because they feel too good to play Tonga and Vanuatu actually makes them much lower and less respectful than Tonga and Vanuatu.

To take this wildly off topic...

I disagree with you there, it wasn't that the Aussies were too good to play these teams just they would have a better and fairer chance of qualifying for the world cup playing in Asia. Essentially having qualification based on one play off game against a South American team wasn't really right and this was a better and fairer way for them to qualify for the world cup.

[higgins]

Matthews has to go .. Cant see why you lot are sticking by him. He is too small minded for any club in this league. How many good players is he ruining at Longford through negative tactics.

If you take his point that your not good enough to get past the fulltime teams like Shels Cork Drogheda and maybe Bohs and Derry and you also go along with his idea that you are doing well to qualify for europe nevermind win a round then what more can he do?

What is he there for ?

Surely coming 4th or 5th in the League winning the FAI Cup and egtting knocked out of Europe every year is the best it gets!!! Where is the ambition?

I have to say he is one useless manager. Not as bad as Paul Doolin but close enough :)

Try Pat Scully? Pat Dolan !! :rolleyes:

[Sonic]

Matthews has to go .. Cant see why you lot are sticking by him. He is too small minded for any club in this league. How many good players is he ruining at Longford through negative tactics.

If you take his point that your not good enough to get past the fulltime teams like Shels Cork Drogheda and maybe Bohs and Derry and you also go along with his idea that you are doing well to qualify for europe nevermind win a round then what more can he do?

What is he there for ?

Surely coming 4th or 5th in the League winning the FAI Cup and egtting knocked out of Europe every year is the best it gets!!! Where is the ambition?

I have to say he is one useless manager. Not as bad as Paul Doolin but close enough :)

Try Pat Scully? Pat Dolan !! :rolleyes:


Here here

[Tallanted]

Its over matthews has to go.. camarathen was the final straw. We are a laughing stock. The lowest point as an ltfc fan, its wors than ten years ago when we were getting beaten by that score and sitting bottom of the 1st division. No doubt matthews will have some crappy excuse as usual. Well whatever you say alan its not good enough!

[mypost]

Last year we were beaten by a poor team from liechtenstein who played in the swiss 2nd division.. some fans use the excuse they had 8 liechtenstein internationals.. so what they were crap.

Well done for acknowledging the truth. So what if they had 8 Liechtenstein internationals in their side? Shels have 3 players in the Ireland international squad, 2 of whom have been capped. All three players concerned are way better than Vaduz players, and they score goals in Europe. Scared of playing Shels now, are you? Didn't think so, so why should you be scared of playing an unfit Swiss second division side? The truth is that you rolled over and held out the white flag instead. No Irish side has ever got as good a draw in Europe as playing Carmanthen or Vaduz before, others have had to go to remote outposts on the far side of Europe in intimidating atmospheres, and bring back results. Then they have the right to complain, when it all goes pear-shaped.


you have no idea the pain and embarrassment us town fans are feeling at the moment

Oh yes, we can. Compared to our problems, yours are just an inconvenience.

Do you have a club licence?
Do you have a ground to call your own?
Were you deducted points by the federation?
Are you bottom of the table, by default?
Have you been in examinership?
Did you face liquidation recently?
Are all your players available on free transfers?
How many members of your squad have had to take wage cuts?
Do you know who will play for your team next week?
Are you currently trying to get enough points to beat the drop?

That's pain. That's embarrassment. Compared to the problems at Shamrock Rovers, you lot don't understand what pain and embarrassment is. :mad:

[Maz]

Never have I been so embarressed after a game.Disgraceful performance, just unbelievable. I really dont know how we are going to recover from this. Apart from Kirbs not one player looked interested, apart from their penalty not one goal had an ounce of quality. You wouldnt see the likes of it at a schoolboy game.

Too the team: This was your chance to prove everyone wrong after last years defeat and you have blown it again. The weird thing is,its us supporters that travelled etc that have to put up with flack and feel the embarresment. Someone somewhere has to stand up and take responsibility for this disaster.

Too the supporters: Well done to all that travelled but to those of you "so called supporters" who personally abused players after the game, you lot are a disgrace and a let down to the club.

Well done to Carmarthen and thank you for the welcome we received. Best of luck in the next round.

[Sonic]

"so called supporters" who personally abused players after the game, you lot are a disgrace and a let down to the club.

They did not let down the club as much as the losers who clapped the team off. You lot are DISGRACE.The best way of dealing with a result like that was to walk away in silence with your haed down in embarrasement but certainly not to clap them after a gutless performance like that.I mean Milo Corcoran travelled to the game instead of going to the Cork City game in Turners cross to see us humiliate the league against a bunch of nobodies was one of the worst aspects of it aside from the fact that the team as you say basides Kirby didnt give ****. I stood there in dejection with a few mates after the game while all the players walked by. Only 3 players apologised for us travelling 1000 miles to watch that ****. DIgger Kirby and PRUNTY. Prunty the man was on the bench what was he apologising for.FFS its prics like Barry Fergson and Dessie who have been disgracing the club since the seasons beginning that should be apologising to the fans not a man who sat on the bench. To the Bohs and Derry fan who travelled to the game I apologise on behalf of foot.iers fior putting you through that a night to forget!!!! :mad:

[Martinho II]

i have only started to pluck the courage to go onto this messageboard as I as a town supporter has never felt so demoralised and humilated.

it has being said to me that baker did not seem too worried about what happened and alan murph was seen laughing after the game-now we know why. I am just wondering why the row with matthews and murphy brewed up and why? the timing of it was wrong and it obviously affected the players going onto the pitch. i feel sorry for dc steve and reiteoir that travelled long distances to come to the game.

the reaction after the game was strange-some people were booing the team,some were appluading the team,some were chanting carmarthen and some turned their backs on the team! all i did was shout at callaghan and a few players "where was the passion?"

what really got my nose is that at the drogs game yesterday is certain people are disgusted with section o for what they did at the game. what did we do wrong?

i have certain people wondering why I did not go the drogs game yesterday -that was because i was scheduled to work on a sunday and could not swap with someone. The majoirity of the section o lads were scattered all over the ground in wales! the ones i felt that were causing the trouble at the end of the match was certain members of the stand that always do this!

at one stage a prominent section o member stormed to one particular person who was abusing the team and he told him to shut the f%%%ck up after the match ! its people who abuse the team that embarrase the club!

it will take me weeks and months to get over this! i wasted a lot of hard earned money to support them and was let down very badly! i will be attending the bohs match this saturday but I will be very reserved at the game! how can anyone get over this result very quickly? the last time i felt this low was the dublin city game last season and before that the shamrock rovers massacre in flancare three weeks ago!

im sorry but the team has a lot of explaining to do to the supporters and they better get their act together! im hoping the new signings might help matters! i just hope and pray that the team get off their fat backside and make it up to the supporters fast!

attendances will suffer over this and i feel a lot of the passion from a lot of the supporters is going to disappear fast!

a very disgruntled and annoyed supporter, :mad:

[Pauro 76]

having not been at the match, i can only imagine how p!ssed off the fans are. But what puzzles me is that our fans seem to be turning on each other. Again. It also puzzles me that how can you not have passion for the next round in Europe, we knew what was at stake, so why did we take the foot off the pedal? Surely the reward of another game in round speaks for itself! it seem that a few of the players didnt play for the manager, if thats the case, they know where the door is. Didnt get to the game, but was telling everyone i knew over about Longford Town in Europe, had a few people looking out for the result, and just ended up with egg on our face. Its embarassing, and we need to know why we buckled.

[Wiseguy]

My first chance to post since the match and i could go on and on but i won't.
We just didn't turn up on the night and Carmarthen wanted to win the match and got a bit of luck and that's it.
For so many players to have an off night is unbelieveable.The back 4 have been a rock all season and they just collapsed.The tactics were all wrong and the most annoying thing of all is that when we knocked it around we took them apart.It seemed that Matthews stood by and let it all happen.The man likes his praise he should be willing to listen to his critics.We know the result was a disgrace and we let everyone in the league but it's over.It's typical of the EL that other fans come on here and kick us when we're down but if there is one thing i have learned from following football is that you should never taunt other fans because your humiliation may just be around the corner.We've all had our bad nights in Europe so those of you who are taking the high and mighty ground with us clearly have no idea what your spouting.

[Sonic]

What did section O do ??

(Agree with you about the Dublin City result last year - I think that result was worse than Camarthen !!)


How do you make that out huh??? Lost by one goal to Dublin City Lost by 4 goals to a team worse than City.FOOL

[Martinho II]

What did section O do ??

(Agree with you about the Dublin City result last year - I think that result was worse than Camarthen !!)

we did nothing thats the worst thing. i was told by a section o representive who was at the drogheda game that certain supporters thought that section o was booing the players! not true at all! all our own lads were scattered over the ground! people were saying at the drogs game that section o was a disgrace to the club!

nothing like a good rumour to spread about.

[Shelsman]

Football would not survive if there aren't any more minnows from a low-level league that stun the world by beating a giant. It's those things that keep the sport alive and keep on making it exciting.

Good point. :confused: Doesn't make it feel any better for Longford fans though! :mad:

[Shelsman]

it will take me weeks and months to get over this! i wasted a lot of hard earned money to support them and was let down very badly!

Pity for you that I didn't win the Euromillions, had thought of refunding Longford fans the cost of the travel and tickets out of sympathy if I did :) .
Maybe the club should do something like lay on free buses to a key away game???

[Shelsman]

(Agree with you about the Dublin City result last year - I think that result was worse than Camarthen !!)

No-one outside of LTFC supporters would've taken notice of a match vs Dublin City, whereas plenty of non-eL fans would have taken notice of the UEFA results. It's safe to say that Longford dragged the reputation of the league through the mud ( as did Shels when they losts to Hibernians of Malta ) and we will be slow to encourage new fans if they see those kind of results.

[Macy]

I've been off for a couple of weeks since the match, so only posting now....

Totally embarrassement is the only thing I can say, and there really is no excuse. The only explanation is the players thought it was as much of a foregone conclusion as we all did.

My immediate reaction was to say that matthews had to go, but in the cold and sober light of day I've rowed back from that position. However, I would expect at least a better league finish to compensate at least.

I said before the game that they'd be no excuse this year, there still isn't. Worst I've felt at a match since Anfield 1992.

[Sonic]

First leg result: Kobenhavn2 Carmarthen 0. No chance in 2nd leg for the welsh minnows :rolleyes:

[mypost]

First leg result: Kobenhavn2 Carmarthen 0. No chance in 2nd leg for the welsh minnows :rolleyes:

.....and there wasn't. Copenhagen didn't do a Longford and won 2-0 in Newtown. Now why couldn't Longford do that??? :confused: :mad:
Copenhagen travel to Hamburg in the next round.

Btw, the "great" :rolleyes: Vaduz took the lead away to Besiktas, which the home side were deeply offended by. Besiktas eventually won it 5-1. See, not that difficult to do, is it? ;)

[Ronnie]

My post - go build a ground.

[Maz]

.....and there wasn't. Copenhagen didn't do a Longford and won 2-0 in Newtown. Now why couldn't Longford do that??? :confused: :mad:
Copenhagen travel to Hamburg in the next round.

Btw, the "great" :rolleyes: Vaduz took the lead away to Besiktas, which the home side were deeply offended by. Besiktas eventually won it 5-1. See, not that difficult to do, is it? ;)

You're a f***in **** stirrer and banned from here!

[Sonic]

Btw, the "great" :rolleyes: Vaduz took the lead away to Besiktas, which the home side were deeply offended by. Besiktas eventually won it 5-1. See, not that difficult to do, is it? ;)


In fairness mypost Besiktas or Lomgford Town dere is one hell of a difference in quality.