Games weekend 12th to 15th August

[mcgonigle]

So typical of us. Play well, lots of chances, concede a ridiculous goal and lose the match. I do think Long should go at the end of the season. We are going backwards in the league and need someone new in, who will have fresh ideas and maybe take the club forward again.

If the game stays 11 v 11, Dundalk win comfortably. The sending off was a leveller and Bohs still created very little.

Bohs started well without creating anything but after 15 minutes we took control. Could have had 2 penalties, one was stonewall, one off the line and a good save from Ryan (who was pretty poor otherwise) from Martin. Second half started the same way and there was only one team going to score until the sending off.

Too many new signings starting for Bohs and the lack of cohesion and understanding was obvious.

[mcgonigle]

good 3 points for Dundalk but that team won’t be bothering shams too much.

So everyone keeps saying.....

Honestly though, yeah we won't challenge. Don't have the squad and the injuries and suspensions are mounting. We should be nowhere near second or even the top 3, but O'Donnell is a class act, who knows......

[Dermobohs]

So everyone keeps saying.....


Honestly though, yeah we won't challenge. Don't have the squad and the injuries and suspensions are mounting. We should be nowhere near second or even the top 3, but O'Donnell is a class act, who knows......
True that, and I’d love to think you lot would take it but nah, can’t see it.
Good sum up of the match though, totally agree 11 v 11 you’re winning all day. Annoying ******* false injury ****e though, ffs yore better than that.
Was watching rovers last week and Gary o neill , a really good player, did his usual( seen him do it several times now) dive to the ground with a scream, holding his head and lay still.
Gets free kick hops up and wanders off with a false limp and head rub.
This cheapens a lad really seriously hurt imo and should be stamped out of our game.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not talking about a dive, that’s here to stay but that lay still, **** me id jump on the **** if he tried that
on me

[Nesta99]

Not a hope in hell of Dundalk hunting down Rovers over the season! We are far too likely to drop points to Drogs/UCD/Harps etc. but it is good to hope for a tighter league race - Rovers can step up a gear if they need to that I dont think Dundalk or Derry among others can. I did kinda enjoy the dark arts late in the game in Dalymount - I dont know why people get pished at it so muc as every team is guilty of it or could do it themselves. Its not good for the game but if its good for yer team I would take it!

[ToberonaTornado]

Watched it. Have to say a good game, Bohs on top the Dundalk on top through a silly goal then the sending off. Bohs hit the post. Exciting stuff. I know someone on this sit complained about time wasting, well Dundalk we're the masters tonight, players on the ground everywhere. Can't complain though.

Anseo!
T'was me giving it loads last week about Brian Maher,'s time wasting in our match v Derry.👍
Dundalk employed every trick and a few more last night on that one have to admit but in completely different circumstances.
Done brilliantly to see the game out with bohs bereft of ideas.
Big game on Sunday week now v rovers.

[trevy]

Excellent win for Waterford over Galway at the RSC. 2nd half was as good as we've played all season and first time we beat one of the top 2. The players and fans were really up for it last night. Cork surprisingly losing at home to Treaty keeps a slim chance of us catching them alive if we win at Turners Cross on Monday night.

[SeanDrog]

Excellent win for Waterford over Galway at the RSC. 2nd half was as good as we've played all season and first time we beat one of the top 2. The players and fans were really up for it last night. Cork surprisingly losing at home to Treaty keeps a slim chance of us catching them alive if we win at Turners Cross on Monday night.

Interesting post match interview with Doherty - apparently Duff marches off at the end and didn’t shake hands .. love the line from a Doherty that “real shelbourne” people did shake his hand :) (it’s on the league of Ireland Facebook page - I don’t know how to link it here). Duff seems a very funny fish tbh

[mackend6]

Interesting post match interview with Doherty - apparently Duff marches off at the end and didn’t shake hands .. love the line from a Doherty that “real shelbourne” people did shake his hand :) (it’s on the league of Ireland Facebook page - I don’t know how to link it here). Duff seems a very funny fish tbh

I see a post on the Sherbourne Facebook page calling him out for his antics on the sidelines and that it encourages some of the bad behaviour from their crowd. He was a bit too far from me to see anything specific but thought it was interesting. At one stage there was an element of tension to the game that I though was going to boil over but it didn't and the Shels fans gave Kev a massive reception when he went over to them.

Any idea what the long hold up was during the second half?

[mackend6]

Biggest crime of the night was 3 minutes of the Match of the Day intro as the teams came on. Jesus fckin wept.

[Jd2793]

harps only have themselves to blame, keeping onto horgan this long.

[A N Mouse]

What's happening in the Brandywell on Saturday and Sunday?
it seems like an evil done to us by the Government and Derry city.
You should be aware that our players will respond like lions to this provocation.
And we are being denied landing rights in Derry and have to fly into Knock instead.
Bradley lambasts evil fai and derry city

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0812/1315499-bradley-lambasts-league-for-not-pushing-derry-game-back/

[sbgawa]

Not a hope in hell of Dundalk hunting down Rovers over the season! We are far too likely to drop points to Drogs/UCD/Harps etc. but it is good to hope for a tighter league race - Rovers can step up a gear if they need to that I dont think Dundalk or Derry among others can. I did kinda enjoy the dark arts late in the game in Dalymount - I dont know why people get pished at it so muc as every team is guilty of it or could do it themselves. Its not good for the game but if its good for yer team I would take it!


From next Thursdays match inn Europe there are 11 weeks until the end of the season.
Because of the world cup all the group games are before then so from next Thursday Rovers have 21 games (8 in Europe) 12 League games plus Drogs in the cup. IF we beat drogs then it becomes 22 etc etc.

Dont get me wrong im delighted in one way but next Sundays match against Dundalk is huge, if Dundalk win and cut the gap to 1 point(we would have a game in hand) i would make them favourites. Bradser always goes after every match but i would play weak teams in the group matches we are likely to lose and prioritise the league......if this year has thought us anything its that the Champions path is everything in Europe. I cant see him doing that and i hope we dont fall between the stools. Forget about the cup

[Philosophizer]

I'd have to agree with you. Champions path is absolutely vital. It gives you a very good chance of making group stages, especially when seeded. If SR manage to win the next few leagues (much easier said than done) they've a great chance of banking some massive money and breaking away and dominating the league for years to come, which leads to more money, etc, etc. Although with Derry's money it might not work out like that.
But I thought a similar thing could happen with Dundalk but they didn't capitalise on it.
Rovers could be a different animal though. Best stadium in the league and it's gonna be better when they finish the new stand. Great academy. It looks like they're we'll set up. But who knows, it could all go pear shaped easily. This is the LOI after all.
The league should be the focus and Europe second. Forget about the cup - just play reserves for that.
Playing a second string in Europe would be controversial tho, and could incur some very bad pr. But I remember Liverpool doing it a few years ago against Real Madrid under Rogers.

[Kingswood Rover]

Forget the cup me ****** lads that is simply the best day out when we get to an FAI Cup final. Rovers Bohs in Lansdowne Rd would be something really special and could get a a 50 k crowd. Ringsend on cup final morning is magical.

[Calcio Jack]

Forget the cup me ****** lads that is simply the best day out when we get to an FAI Cup final. Rovers Bohs in Lansdowne Rd would be something really special and could get a a 50 k crowd. Ringsend on cup final morning is magical.

Agree 100% Was shocked to see other Rovers fans above say ‘ forget about the (our) cup’ - we had to wait over 30 years for the win in 2019 so it’s more of that we need - also the current team are building a fantastic legacy so would love to see them land a double in addition to their other ongoing achievements

[outspoken]

As someone who goes over to Drogheda a lot, Kevin is way OTT on the sideline but this nonsense that players or coaches acting up on the pitch entitled grown men in the crowd to act like savages is the biggest tripe I've ever heard.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Since when have Pats charged €20 in?

[Olander]

Treaty will be no trouble to Cork whatsoever, I'd expect them to lose by 2-3 against Cork as usual. Treaty players only up their game when they play GUFC because they wanna shove one up Caulfield's jaxy, half of the team is from Galway. Ludden and Curran didn't even travel to the last game against Cork, both played in the draw against GUFC of course though.
Not sure what is worse, my terrible prediction or the fact that we didn't capitalise and were woeful in Waterford :rolleyes: :mad:


As someone who goes over to Drogheda a lot, Kevin is way OTT on the sideline but this nonsense that players or coaches acting up on the pitch entitled grown men in the crowd to act like savages is the biggest tripe I've ever heard.
Him and Clancy were terrible for it at Drogheda.

Constantly moaning and in the fourth official's ear.

[2 Year Contract]

Since when have Pats charged €20 in?

This season. It’s €20 for the main stand and €15 for the rest of the ground. A lot were critical of it earlier in the year but it’s been a good business decision by the club given the big increase in crowds this year

[TonyD]

Forget the cup me ****** lads that is simply the best day out when we get to an FAI Cup final. Rovers Bohs in Lansdowne Rd would be something really special and could get a a 50 k crowd. Ringsend on cup final morning is magical.

Yep. The cup final is a special day. Last year was epic. I’m gutted that we’re out already this year.

[SPXcyan]

A tough pill to swallow no doubt :sweat:

[Nesta99]

Pats are used to cup disappointment, could still be in shock that they won it in living memory at all!

[joey B]

3rd game of this weekend that a team has failed to score against a side with 10 men for a significant amount of time ,Pats decent favourites for 4th I’d say…

[D24Saint]

That was sweet , just the pill to put last Thursday to bed.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Certainly didn’t deserve to lose that but such is life

[outspoken]

Dreadful game. Defensive error the difference between the sides

[2 Year Contract]

Huge 3 points for Pats that is, battled well after the red card. Rogers was solid in goal on his debut. Joe Redmond with his usual top class performance, he’s one you’d fear will be on the shopping list of UK clubs either this off season or next summer. Either way thankfully Pats extended his contract a month or two after signing him.

[brendy_éire]

This season. It’s €20 for the main stand and €15 for the rest of the ground. A lot were critical of it earlier in the year but it’s been a good business decision by the club given the big increase in crowds this year

Are away fans charged the €20? I paid €15 back in April.

[brendy_éire]

Great point for us that felt like a win - Rovers players looked knackered for last half an hour and a combination of brilliant saves (as usual) by Mannus and poor finishing got us over the line - bonus was Byrne played 40 mins ; downside was he came on for injured Burke

Mannus was excellent, as expected. Completely read Patching's penalty. He should have just picked a spot and blasted it.

Annoying result, but would have taken a draw beforehand, so can't complain too much.

I know we don't have them often, but the water break in the first half really helped us. Rovers were pressuring us a fair bit beforehand, and it broke the game up. It's just the way it goes sometimes, but it was interesting to note.
Decent away crowd at the game too, plenty of atmosphere.

[2 Year Contract]

Are away fans charged the €20? I paid €15 back in April.

No, away fans charged €15 as far as I know

[Philosophizer]

Since when have Pats charged €20 in?
I thought it was still 15. I only paid 15 for the cup game against Waterford and at in the main stand.
The CSKA game was 20 all right, but that's still a fair deal for a European tie imo.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

I paid €20 yesterday

[D24Saint]

I paid €20 yesterday

Main stand is twenty these days for adults. The rest of the ground is fifteen. I’m not sure of the price for away fans behind the goal when it’s open.

[patsdad]

I think that the away section at the very end of the stand is €15. That’s because the home singing section at the other end is €15 and there has to be similar treatment for home and away fans. The main stand apart from the two end sections is €20.

[joey B]

Just seen Doyle's red card from yesterday,awful harsh for me....

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

I think that the away section at the very end of the stand is €15. That’s because the home singing section at the other end is €15 and there has to be similar treatment for home and away fans. The main stand apart from the two end sections is €20.

Repeating myself but it was €20 yesterday. We all go in the one entrance under the arch and then there is only one entrance into the away section so there’s no segregation.

Edit- Unless there are 2 options on the website. Anyone I spoke went on and selected main stand as that’s the option that appeared and where we always are and the price was €20.

[ontheotherhand]

Derry looked good on Friday although hard to say how much of that was due to Rovers being knackered. It was a spicy enough affair and very entertaining for a scoreless draw.

Diallo gives Derry a much better base to work from and they looked really dangerous in parts. With Duffy back now and Connolly at the back I could see them going on a serious run. Thought McGonigle was very subdued though. They had a lot of pressure and chances but I can't remember him really threatening...has he gone off the boil a bit?

They are also a fairly big team which I hadn't thought before. All strong lads in good shape but taller than us as well in most areas. Didn't realize patching was such a unit. Always thought he was quite slight but compared to our midfield he looked like a real athlete.

For us it was great to see Jack back even if he looked well off the pace as you'd expect. At the same time, we lost Burkey. We don't seem to be able to get our best 11 going together this season which is a shame as I think we could get a few results in the groups with everyone firing.

[Nesta99]

Patching as all the attributes to be a top player, if there is criticism its that he is not the bravest in the tackle and he can be moody if things are going against his side. The contrast with a fit McEleney maybe a few years ago, he drove his side on, maybe to a fault in taking on all responsibility. It's an issue that could be worked on with the right coach or sports psychologist. I dont think its Patching spitting the dummy, more that he thrives on a good performance and kicks on or he crumbles if not on song.

[Guitd]

Are the FAI desperate to get Cork city up to the premier with dodgy decisions both Galway and Waterford have had red cards against them at Turners cross in first few min this season

[joey B]

2 red cards in 13 minutes what?!?!

** Flashscore lied to me!!

[D24Saint]

Repeating myself but it was €20 yesterday. We all go in the one entrance under the arch and then there is only one entrance into the away section so there’s no segregation.

Edit- Unless there are 2 options on the website. Anyone I spoke went on and selected main stand as that’s the option that appeared and where we always are and the price was €20.

Wonder was it an oversight then. I thought the whole stand was €20 these days and not certain parts of the stand. The season tickets went up a few quid this season.

[Nesta99]

I know football pundits are often masters at stating the obvious but how is it possible for Keith Tracey to contradict himself so often in one pod segment!? Push the game back to be fair, but fair enough for Derry to have the game played, help out for continental comps but delaying the domestic game would move it closer to a continental game. Delay a domestic game but domestically they'll be fine and will win the league with the big enough squad, its a poor decision but if he'd have no qualms if he was at Derry etc.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0815/1315914-treacy-poor-of-league-not-to-delay-derry-hoops-game/

If a game was played on a Thursday as is mostly the schedule it would be extremely unfair to play on a Friday, there is no doubting that, but the game was on Tuesday. For me it makes more sense to get the domestic game done to move on to prep for the EL playoff especially when there is a gap at the top of the league - its one of the reasons teams in Europe want to be fast out of the blocks and build a lead for when European games start. There isnt too much said about the Dundalk game on Sunday yet it is the same number of days and both Euro ties are away. Postponed games still need to be played and fixture congestion only gets worse and its possible that more players could become unavailable. Rovers flew in to Belfast too didnt they, I presume they stayed and trained closer to Derry rather than head home - a luxury that most Irish teams in Europe couldnt manage. A squad is there to be rotated unless a manager doesnt think that there is strength in depth and Bradley has been prepping for this with 2 11s basically. A fresh Derry side wasnt able to take full advanatge so it worked for Rovers by maintaining the gap. Its not unprecedented either with Dundalk playing every 3 or 4 days in 2016 and reached the cup final also. Would any club swap places in a heartbeat.....

[sulywaterfordfc]

Magnificent team effort in turners cross by the blues. The players really worked the socks off having ten men most of the game. Britton once again showed why he was a great signing by Cork lol. I really enjoyed the game. The ref was poor but that standard these days. A young lad, Dean Larkin came on at centre back after minutes and put her huge performance in such a game. Thought the crowd was poor enough.

With the new owner we really could do with bringing in a couple players as the squad is paper thin heading into a crucial part of the season.

[sbgawa]

I know football pundits are often masters at stating the obvious but how is it possible for Keith Tracey to contradict himself so often in one pod segment!? Push the game back to be fair, but fair enough for Derry to have the game played, help out for continental comps but delaying the domestic game would move it closer to a continental game. Delay a domestic game but domestically they'll be fine and will win the league with the big enough squad, its a poor decision but if he'd have no qualms if he was at Derry etc.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0815/1315914-treacy-poor-of-league-not-to-delay-derry-hoops-game/

If a game was played on a Thursday as is mostly the schedule it would be extremely unfair to play on a Friday, there is no doubting that, but the game was on Tuesday. For me it makes more sense to get the domestic game done to move on to prep for the EL playoff especially when there is a gap at the top of the league - its one of the reasons teams in Europe want to be fast out of the blocks and build a lead for when European games start. There isnt too much said about the Dundalk game on Sunday yet it is the same number of days and both Euro ties are away. Postponed games still need to be played and fixture congestion only gets worse and its possible that more players could become unavailable. Rovers flew in to Belfast too didnt they, I presume they stayed and trained closer to Derry rather than head home - a luxury that most Irish teams in Europe couldnt manage. A squad is there to be rotated unless a manager doesnt think that there is strength in depth and Bradley has been prepping for this with 2 11s basically. A fresh Derry side wasnt able to take full advanatge so it worked for Rovers by maintaining the gap. Its not unprecedented either with Dundalk playing every 3 or 4 days in 2016 and reached the cup final also. Would any club swap places in a heartbeat.....

Rovers flew into Dublin.
Bradser has been rotating but that's kind of gone out the window with the losses of madroiu, Byrne, pico , McCann and Burke being only fit for 30 mins. I still wouldn't swap but we can't afford to lose on Sunday.

[Shinkicker]

Rovers flew into Dublin.
Bradser has been rotating but that's kind of gone out the window with the losses of madroiu, Byrne, pico , McCann and Burke being only fit for 30 mins. I still wouldn't swap but we can't afford to lose on Sunday.
Unfortunately Success Means hard work. if league games are postponed and you make group stage in Europe and stay in the Cup the back log will be at the end of the season and the complaint will be "we have to play 2 games a week" or something on those libes. I don't say the above begrudgingly. I wish my team were in Europe or pushing for a place in Europe. Good management will prioritise the competitions, let's say Europe and the league, then change the squad for Cup games go as far as you can and bow out graciously. With the squad Rovers have they'll probably still win it.

[Nesta99]

Rovers flew into Dublin.
Bradser has been rotating but that's kind of gone out the window with the losses of madroiu, Byrne, pico , McCann and Burke being only fit for 30 mins. I still wouldn't swap but we can't afford to lose on Sunday.

Ah just had caught this but didnt know it didnt happen.

....planning on flying into Belfast on their return, rather than Dublin, to prepare for Friday’s league game.
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derry-city-standing-firm-friday-24704801

I still think too much is made of travel on this small island, a mindset, where a 2 or 3 hour coach trip is just up the road for an awful lot of clubs in other countries. It could be the Canadian better half's influence on me!

Those 5 players are a major loss considering the how this situation was planned for, they're a bigger loss in the European context as domestically Rovers can cope albeit by a lesser margin. Lose Gaffney and its up in the air and could be a sniff of someone pinching the league but Derry or Dundalk are more liable to drop points against anybody especially with the amount of Dundalk draws/away form. A run of 3 or 4 wins puts others on the coat tails too. Bryne and Burke particularly injury prone or just a run of bad luck, Neither have returned from stints abroad in better shape?

Considering games cane be postponed for back to back away European games and was at the discretion of Mark Scanlon is surprising there wasnt a move and why not if it didnt need Derry to agree. It was possibly recognised that kicking the can down the road could leave things tougher again.

[sbgawa]

Unfortunately Success Means hard work. if league games are postponed and you make group stage in Europe and stay in the Cup the back log will be at the end of the season and the complaint will be "we have to play 2 games a week" or something on those libes. I don't say the above begrudgingly. I wish my team were in Europe or pushing for a place in Europe. Good management will prioritise the competitions, let's say Europe and the league, then change the squad for Cup games go as far as you can and bow out graciously. With the squad Rovers have they'll probably still win it.

To be fair to Rovers they weren't looking for the game to be postponed just played on Sunday or even Saturday.
Also Rovers have two games a week every week until the end of season (11 weeks left: 12 league matches, at least 1 cup game and 8 in Europe) so they have to play the games. As every match from now on in Europe will be a Thursday that means every league match will be a Sunday from now on.

[A N Mouse]

To be fair to Rovers they weren't looking for the game to be postponed just played on Sunday or even Saturday.
Also Rovers have two games a week every week until the end of season (11 weeks left: 12 league matches, at least 1 cup game and 8 in Europe) so they have to play the games. As every match from now on in Europe will be a Thursday that means every league match will be a Sunday from now on.

I don't get this.

I mean if the euro game was brought forward because Derry wouldn't rearrange then maybe it flies. But Tuesday to Friday is same recovery as Thursday to Sunday. Surely more recovery/prep for the following euro fixture would be preferable?

And as I said previously Friday was only day suited Derry

[sbgawa]

Players didn't get home until Wednesday morning and the heat at pitch level was intense so you can assume they were pretty drained, .
That would leave them with a session on Thursday and then heading to Derry Friday. Another 24 hrs recovery would have been welcome as was shown by the below par performance.
Preparation time for the away leg in Hungary isn't the same as the players wouldn't be as tired nor travel as complicated getting back from Derry on Sunday, the players would be asleep in their beds Sunday night.
In terms of this weekend against Dundalk the players will have the same situation in terms of days recovery but its unavoidable as the game is already put back to Sunday. The point about the Derry game is it could have been pushed back but Derry decided to stick to their guns and try to catch Rovers out. They were entitled to do so but if the boot is on the other foot next year i wouldn't expect much co operation form the league.
I expect another below par performance from Rovers against Dundalk or a lot of rotation and a weaker but more energetic team.

[A N Mouse]

Players didn't get home until Wednesday morning and the heat at pitch level was intense so you can assume they were pretty drained, .
That would leave them with a session on Thursday and then heading to Derry Friday. Another 24 hrs recovery would have been welcome as was shown by the below par performance.
Preparation time for the away leg in Hungary isn't the same as the players wouldn't be as tired nor travel as complicated getting back from Derry on Sunday, the players would be asleep in their beds Sunday night.
In terms of this weekend against Dundalk the players will have the same situation in terms of days recovery but its unavoidable as the game is already put back to Sunday. The point about the Derry game is it could have been pushed back but Derry decided to stick to their guns and try to catch Rovers out. They were entitled to do so but if the boot is on the other foot next year i wouldn't expect much co operation form the league.
I expect another below par performance from Rovers against Dundalk or a lot of rotation and a weaker but more energetic team.
Derry standing firm was to do with attendance, whatever perceived advantage was by the by.

And as I said before if they'd been pushed to play the Saturday or Sunday the game would most likely have been postponed.