Spillage on Big Red Bench tonight

[Fair_play_boy]

He was on about the delay in signing contracts, and alleged that our former manager was meddling, and that this was the cause of the delay. Georgie's delay in signing a contract was cited as an example. Anybody know more about this? :mad:

[terry9]

george and dolan were at the cobh game talkin for the full 90 minutes..anyone else see him?

[Éanna]

Its a well known fact that George and Dolan were/are very close, and George has mentioned things in his interviews about talking to people close to him- I repsume Dolan is one of them. I don't think Dolan has city's best interests at heart and I don't think George should be listening to him, but its a free country- George obviously values Dolan's advice and the likes of Spillane (who as far as i can see has never liked Dolan) going on and saying things like that is not going to help.

[Poor Student]

Has O'Callaghan not actually signed the contract yet?

[Éanna]

Has O'Callaghan not actually signed the contract yet?
as far as anyone knows, no he hasn't.

[Poor Student]

as far as anyone knows, no he hasn't.

Is it up in 5 months? That would make him free to sign a pre-contract agreement already. :eek:

[Éanna]

Is it up in 5 months? That would make him free to sign a pre-contract agreement already. :eek:
exactly. hence the concern. he agreed the deal, but the contract itself hasn't been signed yet- nobody knows why

[Poor Student]

Agreements in principle and football are dangerous things. I assume the fear is Dolan will fix him up with a move to England rather than another eL club gaining his signature?

[Éanna]

Agreements in principle and football are dangerous things. I assume the fear is Dolan will fix him up with a move to England rather than another eL club gaining his signature?
Thats about the size of it. I was told he had agreed to sign it at a specific time and date but then changed his mind. I'm not TOO worried about it TBH, because I think he'd be mad to leave now and he knows it.

[Poor Student]

Happy birthday by the way Éanna, assuming the thingy at the bottom of the main page is correct.

[Éanna]

Happy birthday by the way Éanna, assuming the thingy at the bottom of the main page is correct.
cheers :) I'm getting a league title for my birthday, but it has to stay in the wrapping until the end of september, or maybe a bit later. I asked for a double, but they're not sure yet :D

[Poor Student]

Jaysus, a modest Corkman, you don't expect to win the UEFA? :eek: ;)

I agree with O'Callaghan, I think it would be small minded to move abroad. He'll never play in Europe, never win a national title and never receive the adulation he will at Turner's Cross. He's in a league and team on the up and he should not shake the boat.

[Éanna]

Jaysus, a modest Corkman, you don't expect to win the UEFA? :eek: ;) I never said which cup was part of the double :D

[Fair_play_boy]

I never said which cup was part of the double :DI must be losing the plot. When I saw the words "double" and "birthday" in the same line I naturally thought there was drink involved. :)

[Slash/ED]

Jaysus, a modest Corkman, you don't expect to win the UEFA? :eek: ;)

I agree with O'Callaghan, I think it would be small minded to move abroad. He'll never play in Europe, never win a national title and never receive the adulation he will at Turner's Cross. He's in a league and team on the up and he should not shake the boat.

He has said he wants to play in England or Scotland though, that as recently as last week I think

I think unless a decent first division side comes in he'd be mad to leave, if Cork do win the title he could have a champions league campaign to look forward to and you'd expect Cork to progress at least one round. If he does leave though it would be a terrible blow to Cork and the league, another talent and crowd puller gone and nothing in return.

[Colm]

Spillane has already been caught lying once this weekend (about the Rovers fans) and as Eanna said he's always had it in for Dolan so he can't be believed.

Just thinking back now, Dolan also announced that Georgie had signed and said it was great the same day as the club announced it. So he's hardly being an unsettling influence on Georgie, if anything the opposite is true.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Agreements in principle and football are dangerous things. I assume the fear is Dolan will fix him up with a move to England rather than another eL club gaining his signature?
Verbal agreements in principle are not worth the paper they are written on....

[A face]

And Dolan loves Irish footie .... Legend .... he is doing trojan work there fair play to him !! :eek: :rolleyes: :o

[paddigol]

Thats about the size of it. I was told he had agreed to sign it at a specific time and date but then changed his mind. I'm not TOO worried about it TBH, because I think he'd be mad to leave now and he knows it.

yes, but would he be mad to leave in 5 months with a league medal under his arm, perhaps and fai cup medal, and hopefully more great memories of a good run in europe. Leaving on a high/ while on top may be his thinking.
Hopefully not, but either way i don't like the uncertainty. We have been led to believe by all parties that it is done and dusted. Either he's signed or he hasn't. The club need to let the fans know. Simple as that.

[patsh]

Surely the simplest way of keeping George at the club is to win the league.
NOBODY would give up the chance of playing in the CL, would they?

[drinkfeckarse]

Surely the simplest way of keeping George at the club is to win the league.
NOBODY would give up the chance of playing in the CL, would they?


Kevin Doyle did ;) ;) :D

[Schunter Netz]

He might give up the odd CL game. In truth, its a short glory trip for the underdogs anyway, not a career ambition. Who has ever got a glorious career from one or two rounds of the qualifying stages of the champions league? The reality is that George is 25, 26?, and has finally found his level at a club that gives him the freedom to be playmaker, and it happens to be his home town, which he clearly loves and which gives him the adulation he craves...and a club with the ability and ambition to be national champions and more?!...What other club will give him all of that? The highest he could aim would be engilsh division one (old school) and what team at that level would give him the playmaker role he seems to need? The answer is none, actually...as good as he is. At his age, its not going to happen. George can swap the central role he has at City for a lesser, hopeful, one at a 'bigger club' but I can't see how it would be a good career move.

[A face]

He might give up the odd CL game. In truth, its a short glory trip for the underdogs anyway, not a career ambition. Who has ever got a glorious career from one or two rounds of the qualifying stages of the champions league? The reality is that George is 25, 26?, and has finally found his level at a club that gives him the freedom to be playmaker, and it happens to be his home town, which he clearly loves and which gives him the adulation he craves...and a club with the ability and ambition to be national champions and more?!...What other club will give him all of that? The highest he could aim would be engilsh division one (old school) and what team at that level would give him the playmaker role he seems to need? The answer is none, actually...as good as he is. At his age, its not going to happen. George can swap the central role he has at City for a lesser, hopeful, one at a 'bigger club' but I can't see how it would be a good career move.




Bang on the money there fella .... Great post and totally true !!

[Slash/ED]

You're forgetting a few things though, Kerr has made it clear that all the leagues best talent needs to leave to make the international team and that's surely an ambition of his and also he could probably earn alot more money in England.

[Fair_play_boy]

He might give up the odd CL game. In truth, its a short glory trip for the underdogs anyway, not a career ambition. Who has ever got a glorious career from one or two rounds of the qualifying stages of the champions league? The reality is that George is 25, 26?, and has finally found his level at a club that gives him the freedom to be playmaker, and it happens to be his home town, which he clearly loves and which gives him the adulation he craves...and a club with the ability and ambition to be national champions and more?!...What other club will give him all of that? The highest he could aim would be engilsh division one (old school) and what team at that level would give him the playmaker role he seems to need? The answer is none, actually...as good as he is. At his age, its not going to happen. George can swap the central role he has at City for a lesser, hopeful, one at a 'bigger club' but I can't see how it would be a good career move.Excellent post. Says it all really.