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Shels got, 11 points too far behind with their crap form & defense. Between 2 Citys now!
Cork City 18 13 4 1 43
Derry City 17 11 3 3 36
Shelbourne 18 9 5 4 32
Bohemians 16 8 4 4 28
Derry City v Cork City on August 19 the big one!
kevincronin2000
23/07/2005, 9:58 AM
this is a very important game and it is in between our two second qualifing round uefa cup games. Hopefully we can have good support up threre.
sonofstan
23/07/2005, 12:02 PM
wouldn't write us - or Shels - off just yet, Pete; we're 15 points behind but with 2 games in hand - one a home match with Pats which we should win, the other, much tougher, away to Derry. On the plus side, in the 3rd series of matches we're home to all three teams currently above us - with a last match against Shels; so even if its between the 2 cities by ten - and I think Derry will fade a bit - it could be a contest for top team in Dublin
Passive
23/07/2005, 12:11 PM
Don't rule out Rovers yet. We've fifteen games left and if we can win them all, and if every other team can somehow not earn any more points, we'll easily win the title.
ultrafan
23/07/2005, 12:22 PM
i think it's still a three horse race. cork, derry and bohs. bohs are the form team at the moment and got a great win last night. derry -v- bohs will be a huge game. i'd love to see that one on setanta.
MariborKev
23/07/2005, 1:21 PM
Cork v Derry on the the 14th in the Brandywell should be on Setanta, irrespective of the result against Bohs
Munchie
23/07/2005, 1:22 PM
i think the longer cork and shels stay in europe it will benefit bohs!! cant see derry keeping up the pace!! dont count bohs out yet!1 brilliant game at dalymount last nite!! foley is a legend!!!!!!!!!
ccfcman
23/07/2005, 1:24 PM
I'm gonna have to say it looks like a two horser atm, Shels, well they havent moved on from last season nor Have Drogs, but my haven't Derry :o
fitzknows
23/07/2005, 1:29 PM
I'd say it's a 2 horse race alright with Derry and Bohs battling it out come November. Too many people at Cork that dont know what it's like to win something and to be honest I reckon they'll choke when the pressure comes on.
Down to 4 teams after last night, Drogheda are gone for this season.
Between City, Derry, $hel$ and Bohs.
A face
23/07/2005, 1:48 PM
to be honest I reckon they'll choke when the pressure comes on.
Not a chance ..... most of the player thrive on it !! ..... it'll have to be something other than that.
De Town
23/07/2005, 2:32 PM
i honestly believe its a one horse race, cork have it won :eek:
Rebal Boy
23/07/2005, 3:45 PM
Shels got, 11 points too far behind with their crap form & defense. Between 2 Citys now!
Derry City v Cork City on August 19 the big one!
I agree. Surley atleast one TV station will show this game live. Its a must. I'd love to go up but I'm in Wicklow that weekend. :( Please God some TV station will wake up and show it LIVE.
Cork City have lost only 1 league game in last 30 since September 2004. This form is not temporary.
First ye said we'd struggle without Doyle but we've scored 27 excluding his & which is more than all other clubs excluding Shels.
Then ye said City wouldn't cope with being top of the table - they've increased confidence & now are playing better every week.
Then ye said would struggle with all Euro games - last week travelled from Lithunia-Cork-Drogs in less than 3 days & still won with 10 men.
Even playing a 41 year old 3rd choice keeper cannot stop us.
Everyones waiting for City to slip up but no sight of it yet. The best one i;ve heard is that we haven't had a bad spell yet so we due one & then Shels will catch us - Looking at another could say Shels have no lives left, 1 more slipup & will be much too far behind. City can even afford a bad run & still lead the table.
If any bookie would take bets on the league i'd be investing in City now.
dancinpants
23/07/2005, 5:02 PM
City can even afford a bad run & still lead the table.
How do you figure that one out Pete? IF we win our game in hand we'll be only 4 behind you...so how could you afford a bad run? Unless you envisage a bad run being one defeat... :rolleyes: .
i think the longer cork and shels stay in europe it will benefit bohs!! cant see derry keeping up the pace!! dont count bohs out yet!1 brilliant game at dalymount last nite!! foley is a legend!!!!!!!!!
Keep tellin' yerself that Munchie!!! :D
daniel
23/07/2005, 5:06 PM
Bohs fans keeping thinking were gonna fade, you and the rest of the league have been doing this all season although we have now gone unbeaten in what is 14 games? we have conceded 11 goals in 17 matches and we are now scoring from all over the park, you guys need to catch yourself on and start giving credit to Derry City, there are very few people that have given us credit for what we have achieved this season, Galway fans and some Cork fans have given us credit but thats all, keep thinking that boys, its the half way point in the season and who would have suggested Derry would be sitting 2nd, 7 points behind the leaders a game in hand and 7 points ahead of shels with a game in hand also, keep telling yourselves that we arent gonna keep it up lads coz we are and were gonna be there or there abouts!!!!
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Have you ever won the treble have you F**k!!!!
How do you figure that one out Pete? IF we win our game in hand we'll be only 4 behind you...so how could you afford a bad run? Unless you envisage a bad run being one defeat... :rolleyes: .
Yeah 1 defeat would be a bad run ;)
I meant to comment more about both Citys as this is the common theme amoung the Dublin media. I just think its ludicrous to say that sometime like Shels have had theiu bad run so won't have another one in the rest of the season.
League is between Derry & Cork City. If we go on to win the league i really hope Derry City rub it into the dublin media & take 2nd.
I would have Derry favourites for the Cup. Cork City v Derry City final would be great day out!
Would be a real surprise if the title ends up in Dublin now.
There are 4 teams left in it, but one of the 2 Citys have the most realistic chance of winning it........
GavinZac
23/07/2005, 8:00 PM
It'll take a mircale for shels to come back into it, but Derry are realistically only 4 pts behind us and bohs have the potential to do damage in their games in hand. It feels strange not to be working out what results we need to catch the leaders.. we ARE the leaders. all we have to do is keep playing the way we are and we'll win. it'll even be weird if we dont win the league on the last day of the season... sure wheres the heart stopping tension of derry only managing a draw and handing us the title with 2 games left. ;)
Slash/ED
23/07/2005, 8:59 PM
You don't want it to go down to the last day, Rico doesn't do last days...
You don't want it to go down to the last day, Rico doesn't do last days...
Thats why hes trying to win the league in October ;)
Shels are under huge pressure now as CL game is even more important than was last week. I think they will fall further behind before making a comeback.
Bohs have done well recently but have no quality back up for Grant & Foley.
Troy.McClure
24/07/2005, 8:09 PM
i honestly believe its a one horse race, cork have it won :eek:
I recon you're a closet City fan! ;)
You don't want it to go down to the last day, Rico doesn't do last days...
Ah sure Keeley choked on the last day against us for Bohs to win the league in 2001(?), so I think its more of a Shels dont do last days :p
De Town
24/07/2005, 8:15 PM
I recon you're a closet City fan! ;)
i don't ;) :p
Its ours to throw away IMO. I expect Shels to put together a strong run, and i expect Derry to be there or thereabouts til the end. I think Bohs will come into the reckoning sooner or later as well, but I reckon those 3 will take points off each other and that will let us push on. IMO, if we don't lose a game between now and the end of August (especially the Shels and Derry games) I can't see us not winning it.
Slash/ED
24/07/2005, 8:32 PM
Even if we beat you in the Cross we wont win the league, the gap is too big now. I think Derry wont have the consistency over the whole of the season that you will either, it's definitely Corks title unless they throw it away.
Even if we beat you in the Cross we wont win the league, the gap is too big now. I think Derry wont have the consistency over the whole of the season that you will either, it's definitely Corks title unless they throw it away.
you might have to change your signature then :)
Slash/ED
24/07/2005, 8:54 PM
Well if you consider two league titles to be a massive haul...
Well if you consider two league titles to be a massive haul...
It says "any" trophies. We're still in the FAI Cup too btw :)
Slash/ED
24/07/2005, 9:00 PM
It says "any" trophies. We're still in the FAI Cup too btw :)
Fine, I'll cover myself in case Cork break with traditon and win something this year so
Fine, I'll cover myself in case Cork break with traditon and win something this year so
LMAO. Brilliant comeback :D
Troy.McClure
24/07/2005, 9:04 PM
Fine, I'll cover myself in case Cork break with traditon and win something this year so
Shels fans admitting defeat, great :D
TheOwl
24/07/2005, 9:58 PM
Shels fans admitting defeat, great :D
True it really hurts!
Only thing we can do to cheer ourselves up is to qualify for the group stages of the Champions League and use all our newfound mega-wealth to nick all your best players in the post season.
You got to fancy Cork, but if it gets nervy near the end of the season, I'd rather have Kenny than Rico in the dressing-room.
Éanna
24/07/2005, 10:02 PM
You got to fancy Cork, but if it gets nervy near the end of the season, I'd rather have Kenny than Rico in the dressing-room.
The way we're going, you'd better hope we get nervy in the next week or two so :p
TheOwl
24/07/2005, 10:16 PM
The way we're going, you'd better hope we get nervy in the next week or two so :p
Ahh you can stick a fork in us, we are done. I just hope we qualify for the UEFA Cup, because we all know results in the Intertoto Cup mean diddly squat.
I mean we COULD qualify for that competition and go through a couple of rounds but sure so what? It's not like it's the Champions League or anything!
Éanna
24/07/2005, 10:19 PM
Ahh you can stick a fork in us, we are done. I just hope we qualify for the UEFA Cup, because we all know results in the Intertoto Cup mean diddly squat.
I mean we COULD qualify for that competition and go through a couple of rounds but sure so what? It's not like it's the Champions League or anything!
I know exactly what you mean. A run in the intertoto? Its only worth doing it when you're the first club from your league to do it, just to gain some publicity- not worth anything after that :D :p
TheOwl
24/07/2005, 10:22 PM
I know exactly what you mean. A run in the intertoto? Its only worth doing it when you're the first club from your league to do it, just to gain some publicity- not worth anything after that :D :p
And who did that then?
Sorry I only follow proper competitions!
Ohh...I see Newcastle won yesterday.
Poor Student
24/07/2005, 10:23 PM
Actually Shels won't have the Inter Toto salvage even. This year's is the last ever isn't it?
Slash/ED
24/07/2005, 10:35 PM
Actually Shels won't have the Inter Toto salvage even. This year's is the last ever isn't it?
Jaysus we're finished so :(
Poor Student
24/07/2005, 10:38 PM
Jaysus we're finished so :(
I am actually quite concerned. Without Cork or Derry winning the cup you could face a real prospect of no European competition next season. Unless you make serious headway in Europe this year you'll be fairly out of pocket.
Slash/ED
24/07/2005, 10:43 PM
I reckon Cork or Derry will win it, I had a feeling that Derry would win it at the start of the season and Cork have the consistency. I can't see Longford making three in a row anyway, so hopefully they'll get it. I still think we'll be able to finish second though, hopefully...
Poor Student
24/07/2005, 10:46 PM
Of course here's your Doomsday scenario, we beat you and go on to win the League Cup and Longford make it 3 in a row. It is decided to give the Setanta spot to the LC and you end up out of Setanta and out of Europe. :p
TheOwl
24/07/2005, 10:48 PM
Of course here's your Doomsday scenario, we beat you and go on to win the League Cup and Longford make it 3 in a row. It is decided to give the Setanta spot to the LC and you end up out of Setanta and out of Europe. :p
We could still qualify for Europe by winning the Champions League!
I think the Inter Toto Cup was good for City in 2004 as we'd been out of Europe for a few years. Gives the players experience & confidence playing in Europe. Once you've done it then no real urgency to go back.
The Inter Toto would be good for Drogs next season or Derry City if they have a collapse.
But isn't this the last year of the Inter-Toto?
This competition will not exist next year.....?
Drumcondra Red
25/07/2005, 9:58 AM
I think the Inter Toto Cup was good for City in 2004 as we'd been out of Europe for a few years. Gives the players experience & confidence playing in Europe. Once you've done it then no real urgency to go back.
The Inter Toto would be good for Drogs next season or Derry City if they have a collapse.
I'd probably agree with that, although at the moment looks like we'll be lucky to get intertoto!!!
Will there be extra UEFA spaces then, or is it just dead and buried?
Say Cork and Derry make the final of the FAI cup, will the final UEFA spot be given to 3rd in the league then?
De Town
25/07/2005, 10:14 AM
I can't see Longford making three in a row anyway, so hopefully they'll get it
TBH, I can't see us doing 3 in a row either :( hopefully I will be wrong :ball: :)
Say Cork and Derry make the final of the FAI cup, will the final UEFA spot be given to 3rd in the league then?
Yes. Thats assuming one of thr Citys wins the league.
EnDai
25/07/2005, 10:31 AM
Yes. Thats assuming one of thr Citys wins the league.
Yes, thats what I meant. Say the top 2 in the league make it to the FAI Cup final, 3rd place in the league gets UEFA spot then? I'll be rooting for Derry and Cork int he cup so, and praying they don't get each other on the way!! :)
Schumi
25/07/2005, 2:15 PM
I wouldn't rule Derry out yet by any means. They're only 7 behind if they win their game in hand and still have to play Cork twice.
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