Games weekend 25th to 28th Feb

[ontheotherhand]

So you do grasp the concept of what is appropriate behaviour, now just apply it when Rovers (or any) supporters enter the field of play - its not hard really!

Find a post where I said it was appropriate behaviour there bud.

[Calcio Jack]

Find a post where I said it was appropriate behaviour there bud.

More to the point - do you agree yes/ no ;

those that ran onto the pitch should (a) if members then their Membership should be cancelled and a ban from Tallaght for rest of this season (b) if not Members then they should be banned from Tallaght for rest of this season and the Members that provided them with tickets should have their Membership cancelled and a ban from Tallaght

[ontheotherhand]

More to the point - do you agree yes/ no ;

those that ran onto the pitch should (a) if members then their Membership should be cancelled and a ban from Tallaght for rest of this season (b) if not Members then they should be banned from Tallaght for rest of this season and the Members that provided them with tickets should have their Membership cancelled and a ban from Tallaght

Yeah I'd say a season ban would be fair. But my point was never about the action. Read my posts. I called out a post that was comically proven false within the same game it was made in.

I don't tend to take action on foot.ie when stuff like this happens nor do I expect fans of other clubs to come on here groveling for forgiveness when their mongrels get out of the cage.

I will apologize to anyone who came here for match reports though. The state of this thread now.

[Calcio Jack]

Yeah I'd say a season ban would be fair. But my point was never about the action. Read my posts. I called out a post that was comically proven false within the same game it was made in.

I don't tend to take action on foot.ie when stuff like this happens nor do I expect fans of other clubs to come on here groveling for forgiveness when their mongrels get out of the cage.

I will apologize to anyone who came here for match reports though. The state of this thread now.

Good - and hopefully the club will be able to identify the culprits and take action - if they don’t then IMO they are in effect condoning what occurred so I’m sure they’ll do the right thing .

[mcgonigle]

On foot.ie? You've no idea where I stand on anything but you're taking me calling out a comically inaccurate post that was immediately proved ridiculous as my support for a pitch invasion. What action do you take when Dundalk fans invade the pitch by the way? I'll add it to the list of things that don't work, along with posting about it on foot.ie.

You're right I have no idea where you stand, probably because instead of giving your opinion on it you went with the but what about Derry approach. The post was bait and you took it hook line and sinker, more concerned about downplaying your fellow fans involvement by deflecting elsewhere.

I'll admit I didn't do anything when Dundalk fans were on the pitch in Derry. I could have followed them on but that would have exasperated the issue and I wouldn't suggest other fans do that either. I would have happily given names of some of the gob****es to the club but unfortunately (or fortunately) didn't know their names. But since you ask I took a flair off some idiot last Friday who squeezed in between me and my son to try and light it.

I was actually talking about fans challenging other fans at games when these things happen. To be fair it's not for everyone but you can easily give names to the club if you know them. Most of these lads are kids and when challenged on their own look like rabbits in headlights.

Anyway that's enough of that. All clubs in the league are poor at dealing with it unfortunately.

[ontheotherhand]

You're right I have no idea where you stand, probably because instead of giving your opinion on it you went with the but what about Derry approach. The post was bait and you took it hook line and sinker, more concerned about downplaying your fellow fans involvement by deflecting elsewhere.

I'll admit I didn't do anything when Dundalk fans were on the pitch in Derry. I could have followed them on but that would have exasperated the issue and I wouldn't suggest other fans do that either. I would have happily given names of some of the gob****es to the club but unfortunately (or fortunately) didn't know their names. But since you ask I took a flair off some idiot last Friday who squeezed in between me and my son to try and light it.

I was actually talking about fans challenging other fans at games when these things happen. To be fair it's not for everyone but you can easily give names to the club if you know them. Most of these lads are kids and when challenged on their own look like rabbits in headlights.

Anyway that's enough of that. All clubs in the league are poor at dealing with it unfortunately.

Why do I need to give an opinion about a few yobbos jumping on a pitch when calling out the comically poor timing of a post claiming Rovers fans are the only ones who do that right before Derry go and do it? It was the post I went after, not the actions of either set of fans. Maybe I approve of pitch invasions and I'm not concerned at all? Maybe I lodged a complaint with both clubs? The only real comment I made about the actions is that they tend to be frowned upon outside of certain circumstances. Like your famous EA Sports Cup victory in whatever year that was. I'll give you one nugget of how I feel about it though - if it's the cost of sellout crowds around the league then I'm ok if a few dopes jump on the pitch as long as we start stewarding things properly and dishing out bans. It's embarrassing stuff and should result in immediate ejection from the ground and a ban for the season. But I want those sellout crowds too! As DCWA said, it was a cracking atmosphere and we should be talking about that, safe in the knowledge that idiots will be dealt with.

Great to have the season back.

[Nesta99]

Find a post where I said it was appropriate behaviour there bud.

I dont have to, deflection, over defensiveness, avoidance of an issue by pointing the finger etc. intentional or not it indicates a particular stance. But you subsequently gave a direct answer to Calcio rather than dancing around it so fair enough.

[ontheotherhand]

I dont have to, deflection, over defensiveness, avoidance of an issue by pointing the finger etc. intentional or not it indicates a particular stance. But you subsequently gave a direct answer to Calcio rather than dancing around it so fair enough.

Righto, well when you find where I deflected or danced around anything you can slide into my DMs with it. Then we can have a lengthy argument about the target and subject of posts that will end in one of us saying something like "well that's just semantics".

Otherwise maybe we move on so the rest of the forum can talk about football for a bit?

[DCWA]

Really all getting a little bit silly now should be no bans for anyone ffs bit of argy bargy give it a rest and move on. Great game and Derry top of the league - always told you all everyone else was crap.

[Nesta99]

Righto, well when you find where I deflected or danced around anything you can slide into my DMs with it. Then we can have a lengthy argument about the target and subject of posts that will end in one of us saying something like "well that's just semantics".

Otherwise maybe we move on so the rest of the forum can talk about football for a bit?

Whats the point when it doesnt involve Dundalk.......

[ontheotherhand]

Whats the point when it doesnt involve Dundalk.......

Sure half of Dundalk were on show in the Brandywell. You're the gift that keeps on giving. Wouldn't rule out it being your fans on the field either.

How you feeling about the team now after two games nesta?

[Nesta99]

Im more positive than I was after the Malone Cup and prior. That performance, friendly or not had me considering the real possibility of being in a relegation battle. The subsequent league games showed that there is quality in an entirely new team that should improve. So positive signs while recognising that every team is still getting it together. Some concern at full back and where top sides can punish us imo. But overall tighten things up, avoid injuries in a small squad and 4th is possible. All too early to really say much with confidence though over the years, maybe with the exception of Kenny's 1st team its as good a start from a new manager in terms of team performance - bar a few basic errors we could have 6pts but had enough fight not to have 0.

[joey B]

Harps really unlucky to be behind at halftime,been the better side in the first half but the 1 mistake from us punished….

[joey B]

And we concede in the first minute of the second half!

[pineapple stu]

UCD v Shels held up by a sprinkler malfunction

[D24Saint]

UCD v Shels held up by a sprinkler malfunction

It certainly has poured cold water on proceedings.

[pineapple stu]

We put an upside down wheelbarrow on it.

The water came out a different sprinkler.

We put a wheelbarrow on that one too.

Problem solved :)

[pineapple stu]

8 minutes added.

The wheelbarrow was about five of them

[Jack B]

We're shocking. Forrester seems to be our only midfielder at this rate.

[joey B]

Dundalk were ordinary enough and ran out easy winners in the end,we were very wasteful in the first half should have went in ahead,Bradley looks far to good for this league though.....

[Calcio Jack]

We're shocking. Forrester seems to be our only midfielder at this rate.

Surprised to hear that…. You looked excellent in Presidents cup match

[D24Saint]

We're shocking. Forrester seems to be our only midfielder at this rate.

Id class that as a very concerning performance tonight. We were awful in the second half. I wouldn’t consider Bohs anything particularly impressive and we didn’t lay a glove on them in the second half. We badly need something extra in midfield and the RB Scott is rubbish. It’s set to be a big one on Friday a win and we can put the bad run to bed but a defeat and it could hit the fan pronto.

[ontheotherhand]

Jack Byrne.

[Jd2793]

waste of time for JB playing here, far too good.

[Jack B]

Surprised to hear that…. You looked excellent in Presidents cup match

Thought the same myself but we've been miles off it in the last few days. Tbh I've been a bit worried by our squad for a while but there's still quality there, it's just terribly top-heavy and I can't believe we didn't get another midfielder in. Outside of Forrester we have a constantly inconsistent Jamie Lennon and little else, and are playing them with varying wingers in attacking midfield and looking awful in possession as a result.

Think Paddy Barrett has been a huge loss so far as well and would expect things to improve once he's back. The margins will be very fine from 3rd to about 7th or whatever so I'm not losing hope yet, but worrying all the same.

[sbgawa]

Jack Byrne unbelievable again tonight 3 games 4 assists and 1 goal, and replaced by Burke with half and hour to go in two of them.
The pass for the first goal tonight was absolute class and the goal was fantastic as well.
With him in the team we look impressive

[Finlay Harp]

Just home from Dundalk. On another night we go in two or three up at halftime. Dundalk more clinical in front of goal, something Harps were not. Second half we gave up.

[oriel]

FH def could been 2-0 up at HT, one cleared off the line, another hit the bar. I think when Bradley scored on 44 mins, it was possibly not only our first shot on target, was our first shot even close to goal!

Second half different story, never really had to raise it too much.

Bradley will def be in the nominations for Feb POTM, that's 4 in 3 league games now.

[pineapple stu]

Two similar 0-0s in four days for us. Neither a classic; there visitors in both probably the better team, though neither side really impressed, and in both games we looked to have had a clear penalty turned down.

Would like to see Whelan get a sniff of goal on Friday though

[2 Year Contract]

Thought the same myself but we've been miles off it in the last few days. Tbh I've been a bit worried by our squad for a while but there's still quality there, it's just terribly top-heavy and I can't believe we didn't get another midfielder in. Outside of Forrester we have a constantly inconsistent Jamie Lennon and little else, and are playing them with varying wingers in attacking midfield and looking awful in possession as a result.

Think Paddy Barrett has been a huge loss so far as well and would expect things to improve once he's back. The margins will be very fine from 3rd to about 7th or whatever so I'm not losing hope yet, but worrying all the same.

The two performances over the weekend really did stink of having all the guns but with no bullets to use them. Shocking second half performance tonight, didn’t create anything.

Bohs were worth the win despite creating not a whole lot themselves but were organised which is all they had to be given the issues pats were having going forward. The goal was an absolute bombscare piece of defending by on loan Wolves RB Jack Scott who aside from the goal put in a particularly woeful performance throughout before being hooked for Abankwah who was an immediate improvement

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Abankwah gave one for the worst performances I’ve seen in a long time on Friday night

Derry flew out of the blocks and we were lucky not to be 2 down after half an hour but we were comfortable enough from there on in general. Good point for us.

[John83]

Shels were somewhat dangerous down the left but there was very little variation; it turned into a good training session for the UCD right back. The high press had UCD's centre halves struggling early on, but Shels couldn't keep it up. Sprinker-related fun aside, it turned into a damp squib of a game.

[Jack B]

The two performances over the weekend really did stink of having all the guns but with no bullets to use them. Shocking second half performance tonight, didn’t create anything.

Bohs were worth the win despite creating not a whole lot themselves but were organised which is all they had to be given the issues pats were having going forward. The goal was an absolute bombscare piece of defending by on loan Wolves RB Jack Scott who aside from the goal put in a particularly woeful performance throughout before being hooked for Abankwah who was an immediate improvement

Don't want to pile in on Scott but yeah, wow. Have watched the goal since and didn't even fully appreciate how appalling it was at the game. Even apart from that it was one of the worst individual performances I've seen in a while which is saying something. Doubly worrying that he's the only right back in the squad, hopefully there's a player in there and he finds his feet quickly.

[total hoofball]

UCD had the better of the few chances created Shels maybe controlled the game a bit more but we were really disjointed in the final third I can't recall us forcing the UCD keeper into any real work, Moylan looks like our only threatening creative outlet and even then he became more ineffective as the game progressed

I do like Duff's approach to playing football but he's working with a mixture of some decent prospects who will develop and some who look to have limitations that full-time football just won't overcome, no question it's a four way battle for the drop and the play-off spot between Shels, UCD, Harps and Drogheda

[ToberonaTornado]

Harps really unlucky to be behind at halftime,been the better side in the first half but the 1 mistake from us punished….


And we concede in the first minute of the second half!


Dundalk were ordinary enough and ran out easy winners in the end,we were very wasteful in the first half should have went in ahead,Bradley looks far to good for this league though.....

SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! He's grand where he is but yeah he looks an outstanding player.
We were awful in the 1st half and it took us a while to get going and figure out a few of the Harps formations out but once we did there was only one result and we ran out handy enough winners.May have added to the scoreline at the end also.


Just home from Dundalk. On another night we go in two or three up at halftime. Dundalk more clinical in front of goal, something Harps were not. Second half we gave up.

Dundalk awful in the 1st half and i couldn't believe we got to the break 1-0 ahead! Macari getting injured didn't help(Benson went to fb when he was subbed).Think in the second half we looked more solid back there although still a little bit shi* through the middle were Harps were getting a lot of joy.
Harps heads went down when Bone scored so early in the 2nd half.


FH def could been 2-0 up at HT, one cleared off the line, another hit the bar. I think when Bradley scored on 44 mins, it was possibly not only our first shot on target, was our first shot even close to goal!
Bradley will def be in the nominations for Feb POTM, that's 4 in 3 league games now.


A very poor 1st half display from Dundalk with so many players not exactly sure of their roles :( Clearances off the line,shots hitting the bar. Second half different story,they obv got the hairdryer treatment from S'OD and dominated then.

Good game,good game.

[Nesta99]

We have had moments of very good luck in all three games so far, but it was the total opposite this time last year. It shouldnt be overlooked either that we didnt capitulate after being outplayed. Battered for 44 minutes last night and won 3 nil. Battered for 5 minutes last season and the towel was thrown in. Not hard but but significant signs of improvements with arguably a weaker squad so I will take it. But those slices of luck dont last so we need to sort defensive lapses sooner than later in particular Boyle needs to raise his game to his rep and we need to hang in there in wide defensive areas until players are fit. 5pts from those 3 games is grand and when we could have found ourselves in an awful rut already.

[pineapple stu]

Strange the way the opening fixtures have fallen - UCD v Rovers/Harps/Shels, so nobody in the middle, and we've Drogheda and Derry next. Harps and Shels have both played Drogheda and UCD (well, Harps v Drogheda was postponed) and Shels have Derry next. Rovers have played UCD/Derry/Drogheda. So no real clear picture of what you might call the middle (Sligo/Pat's/Bohs/Dundalk) will overlap with the top (Derry/Rovers) or the bottom (UCD/Harps/Shels/Drogheda)

[Straightstory]

Three of the five goals Drogheda have conceded have been glaring errors where possession was gifted to the opposition. (I could also include Jack Byrne's goal last night as an error; well struck, but right in the middle of the goal straight at the keeper, who should have tipped it over).
Early days, and the new lads need time to bed in. Are the replacements for Doyle, Brown, Kane etc. good enough? The game against UCD on Friday should give us the first real indication.

[Jd2793]

Three of the five goals Drogheda have conceded have been glaring errors where possession was gifted to the opposition. (I could also include Jack Byrne's goal last night as an error; well struck, but right in the middle of the goal straight at the keeper, who should have tipped it over).
Early days, and the new lads need time to bed in. Are the replacements for Doyle, Brown, Kane etc. good enough? The game against UCD on Friday should give us the first real indication.

the defending for that byrne goal was horrible, he drifted in between the lines and looked for the ball about 3 different times before getting it and he wasnt closed down once in that 10-15 seconds. brutal stuff from drogs

[Nesta99]

Strange the way the opening fixtures have fallen - UCD v Rovers/Harps/Shels, so nobody in the middle, and we've Drogheda and Derry next. Harps and Shels have both played Drogheda and UCD (well, Harps v Drogheda was postponed) and Shels have Derry next. Rovers have played UCD/Derry/Drogheda. So no real clear picture of what you might call the middle (Sligo/Pat's/Bohs/Dundalk) will overlap with the top (Derry/Rovers) or the bottom (UCD/Harps/Shels/Drogheda)

I think Ive figured out what you're saying here stu but my head now hurts!

[pineapple stu]

If I added in a few more /s, would that help?

[Jd2793]

must say i didnt expect ucd to struggle with scoring goals. only 3 games in but they look somewhat improved on last year in defence, getting kerrigan and whelan some shots proving tough though.

[brendy_éire]

Abankwah gave one for the worst performances I’ve seen in a long time on Friday night

Derry flew out of the blocks and we were lucky not to be 2 down after half an hour but we were comfortable enough from there on in general. Good point for us.

We had a great start, but just couldn't put the ball in the kit. Truth be told though, Sligo had a few great chances themselves. A draw was probably fair enough in the end, though it really should have been a score draw.

[JC_GUFC]

I went along to UCD v Shels last night - Jesus it was grim.

Better fun playing a game trying to win in Division 1 than two teams worried about losing.

Shels started the better side and their main threat was Conor Kane down the left but he didn't seem to have any plan for a final ball. With Sean Boyd starting you'd have imagined a cross into the box at his head would have been the idea... I guess Jordan McEneff was injured because he was subbed off after 20 minutes but had been pretty ineffective on the other wing. Jack Moylan did a few decent dribbles during the game but pretty much every time just took a touch or two too many and wasted what looked a threatening chance.

UCD got into it as the game went on and even towards the end it wouldn't have been a huge surprise if they caught Shels out on the break. Dylan Duffy really should have scored when he got in late on but his shot was smothered by the keeper.

I saw UCD a few times last season and they're playing far deeper this season. It kind of makes a bit of sense because they were so open defensively last season playing like that in the Premier Division they'd get ripped apart by teams. Obviously this has a negative effect on the supply to Kerrigan and Whelan but 2 points from their opening 3 games isn't too bad.

There are a few players who looked suspect for Shels, the keeper hasn't impressed me so far (I saw them on the opening night too) and Aaron O'Driscoll looks an accident waiting to happen. Hawkins didn't impress either last night when replacing McEneff. Aodh Dervin added a big of urgency when he came on for Brian McManus - his passing was quicker and crisper.

Overall though it was a fair result and I definitely saw enough from UCD to suggest they might have a chance of staying up.

[total hoofball]

Hard to disagree with any of that assessment JC_GUFC

[Bohtastic]

Eoin Doyle didn't look like someone who will score 20 goals, with his record I was expecting him to bully our back 4- the least convincing part of bohs this year.

Seems underwhelming so far. Might come good, but interested in Pat's fans' opinions. Olowabi was far more effective - as real handful for Feely. If I were a Pat's supporter I'd be looking for him to play centrally.
Maybe there's a bit of pressure on Clancy to play him given the fanfare and wages?

[D24Saint]

Maybe there's a bit of pressure on Clancy to play him given the fanfare and wages?

Him and Clancy are mates. It was the a huge factor in him signing. I just hope that fact doesn't cloud his judgement when its not happening for Doyle. He does seem reluctant to substitute Doyle so far.

[redobit]

We had a great start, but just couldn't put the ball in the kit. Truth be told though, Sligo had a few great chances themselves. A draw was probably fair enough in the end, though it really should have been a score draw.

Draw probably fair alright. Although a score draw would have made much better viewing for fans.

A drab affair really. I think the Monday games this early in the season dosent help when players are still getting up to full speed after pre season, especially teams with part time players. Another Monday game week after next too

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

That incident at Derry did not sound good at all going by the way they described it on Cawleys Call

[DCWA]

A drab affair really. I think the Monday games this early in the season dosent help when players are still getting up to full speed after pre season, especially teams with part time players. Another Monday game week after next too

I agree with this. Liam Coyle was covering the game for BBC Radio Foyle and made the same point post match too that he felt a noticeable drop off second half but put it down to having a 2 game weekend basicall straight away.