Bray and Cabo to merge?

[sbgawa]

Ca..Bra
Might not go down well on the Southside :)

[D24Saint]

Always messy a merger. Who gains the place name of the club essentially inherits the club. If they called it Cabinteely Wanderers then Bray are all but gone.

[Kingdom]

I've no time for Bray, and plenty of it for Cabo, can't help but think this is a smart move by Bray, and a daft move by Cabinteely. Depends on what the name will end up being I guess.
Whoever is in charge of the finances in Bray will be delighted with all those underage subscriptions coming in to boost the coffers. Shrewd move - Cabo the biggest schoolboy club in the country?

[D24Saint]

I thought St Joesphs had a slice of Bray.

[Longfordian]

It's a Cabinteely takeover of Bray in all but name. Bad day for the league

It's literally a takeover as Cabo bought a majority stake in Bray. I can see why they might try to dress it up as a merger but it's not.

[wonder88]

So a free spot in the First Division, can it be filled by mid-February?, tight enough timescale which is often the case in the LoI. Losing the clubhouse facility at Blackrock rugby is a drawback I think, so hopefully their might be plans to improve the (legendry) Carlisle Ground, which really has great potential as soccer stadium. Wishing the new club well, be interesting if they can capture any level of support in the Dun Laoghaire area.

[sbgawa]

Id say they will keep the Bray name in it somewhere if only to keep the paying punters coming through the gates.
Cabinteely sold the LOI section of the club to Richardson (the new Chairman of the merged entity) only in the last few months for a pittance as it was costing them money and the priority in Cabo has always been the Community teams not just the Elite.
Makes sense to try to keep the Bray supporters and their cash on side so i expect a Bray/Cabo first year name , give people time to get used to the idea and then rebrand as Dublin South FC or something like that

[sbgawa]

I've no time for Bray, and plenty of it for Cabo, can't help but think this is a smart move by Bray, and a daft move by Cabinteely. Depends on what the name will end up being I guess.
Whoever is in charge of the finances in Bray will be delighted with all those underage subscriptions coming in to boost the coffers. Shrewd move - Cabo the biggest schoolboy club in the country?

Re my above post the Junior club sold off the LOI part to avoid exactly that scenerio of the junior Subs paying wages for LOI.
Re being a "daft move by Cabo" its more a move by the guy who bought the LOI section out the new Chairman , the biggest part of the club the junior club with 1000 ish players has no role in the merger.

[pineapple stu]

Is the Carlisle Grounds to be sold now ? Or is it be the home venue for the new club.

Venue for the new club. Cabo hardly have a venue to offer in fairness!

[Longfordian]

Cab Wanderers FC, any choice for a name? Might be a bit strange cheering Caaaab, Caaaab, Caaaaaaaaaaaa! :call:

Maybe Pat O'Sullivan will try and get Limerick FC back into the First Division again!
Did'nt they participate in the Airtricity Legues at U14/15 & 17's in 2021?

Could be interesting if they drew certain LSL teams in the cup. They wouldn't be too thrilled to hear Cab were coming to visit.

[pineapple stu]

so hopefully their might be plans to improve the (legendry) Carlisle Ground, which really has great potential as soccer stadium.
They'very little space to work with tbh. The tent end is right up against the road. The opposite side is right up against DART land. Removing the hill from behind the town end goal has created some space, but not a lot. And I guess the pitch behind the other end is used in training, in which case you can't build on it. There's also a car park which makes money, so not much point removing that really.

There's not really room at any side for a proper covered stand (bearing in mind a proper roof would need bigger supports which would take seating space away)

[D24Saint]

Is there any sites for a stadium in the dun laoghaire rathdown county council area. They might want a pet project like SDCC with Tallaght stadium.

[nigel-harps1954]

They don't need to do a whole lot with Carlisle Grounds anyway. It's far from the worst ground in the league. Half decent toilet blocks, and some form of a roof on the open side and they're grand with what they have.

One of the best locations for a ground in the entire league.

[Philosophizer]

I always thought it was a missed opportunity by Cabo to not include some reference to the borough of Dun Laoghaire in their name. Over 200K people live in the borough so they should really be trying to tap into that if they've any sense. They could have named themselves Cabinteely Borough FC or something similar. Most other clubs could only dream of having such a population on their doorstep. Maybe they'll use the merger as a way to expand their base. Anybody for...
Borough Wanderers FC ?
Borough & Bray Wanderers ?

[passinginterest]

In the spirit of clubs like Brighton and Hove Albion, I'd expect something like Bray and Cabinteely Wanderers.

[John83]

I always thought it was a missed opportunity by Cabo to not include some reference to the borough of Dun Laoghaire in their name. Over 200K people live in the borough so they should really be trying to tap into that if they've any sense. They could have named themselves Cabinteely Borough FC or something similar. Most other clubs could only dream of having such a population on their doorstep. Maybe they'll use the merger as a way to expand their base. Anybody for...
Borough Wanderers FC ?
Borough & Bray Wanderers ?
I have never heard anyone from that area refer to it as the borough. I would find that name change baffling without your context above.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

They don't need to do a whole lot with Carlisle Grounds anyway. It's far from the worst ground in the league. Half decent toilet blocks, and some form of a roof on the open side and they're grand with what they have.

One of the best locations for a ground in the entire league.

And the coldest place on earth

[El-Pietro]

So I'm not clear on what this means exactly but assuming that Bray are the surviving club that means Cabinteely leave the league with an unbeaten record against Cork City.

[Kingdom]

Id say they will keep the Bray name in it somewhere if only to keep the paying punters coming through the gates.
Cabinteely sold the LOI section of the club to Richardson (the new Chairman of the merged entity) only in the last few months for a pittance as it was costing them money and the priority in Cabo has always been the Community teams not just the Elite.
Makes sense to try to keep the Bray supporters and their cash on side so i expect a Bray/Cabo first year name , give people time to get used to the idea and then rebrand as Dublin South FC or something like that

As ever, a shining light in the fog Sbgawa.

So Cabinteely, the biggest schoolboy club in the country, sell off the loss-making "Cabinteely Senior FC" (I assume 'Cabo' remain 'Cabo' in schoolboys/girls football?) who in turn buy out Bray and 'merge'. So there's likely going to be a name change - which will probably annoy a few Bray loyalists given the lack of consultation with the fans - and there's no schoolboy revenue coming in from the cabinteely side of the merge (and no fans either but that's taken as given).

Maybe the finance person at Bray isn't as clever as I made out earlier.

[Kingdom]

Could be interesting if they drew certain LSL teams in the cup. They wouldn't be too thrilled to hear Cab were coming to visit.

Beautiful. That rings a Bell for sure. Would there be a need to call in the Sheriff?

[Calcio Jack]

In the spirit of clubs like Brighton and Hove Albion, I'd expect something like Bray and Cabinteely Wanderers.

I think a new name something like ;

Devo’s Pocket Liners FC would be more appropriate

[sbgawa]

I think a new name something like ;

Devo’s Pocket Liners FC would be more appropriate
Nailed it

[Bucket]

If your man from Cabo is now the majority shareholder, is Devlin the only other remaining shareholder?

[ger121]

BC Wanderers.

[legendz]

Can Cabinteely and Bray agree that the Dublin mountains are not mountains but hills?! The North Wicklow area going over the border into Dublin is a nice part of the country to be fair.
On the football side of things, is there a realistic contender outside of a Shamrock Rovers II to take up the position available in the First Division? Ideally any new club joining the league will already being showing an expression of interest on the park through the youth leagues. The youth leagues should be the pathway for those with LoI ambitions.

[culloty82]

Can Cabinteely and Bray agree that the Dublin mountains are not mountains but hills?! The North Wicklow area going over the border into Dublin is a nice part of the country to be fair.
On the football side of things, is there a realistic contender outside of a Shamrock Rovers II to take up the position available in the First Division? Ideally any new club joining the league will already being showing an expression of interest on the park through the youth leagues. The youth leagues should be the pathway for those with LoI ambitions.

Would imagine the FAI would welcome a Kerry DL team, if they ever did decide to go senior, the problem being that the junior season runs Sep-May, so the likes of Killarney Celtic, Castleisland and Listowel would be reluctant to contribute players as a consequence.

[GUFCghost]

Metro Wanderers FC? Dublin Bay FC?

I'd put money on the club changing it's name back to Bray in a few years, it's not like the Cabo ultras will riot if they don't get their representation

[legendz]

Would imagine the FAI would welcome a Kerry DL team, if they ever did decide to go senior, the problem being that the junior season runs Sep-May, so the likes of Killarney Celtic, Castleisland and Listowel would be reluctant to contribute players as a consequence.
I think an intermediary league between the youth leagues and League of Ireland is the solution to allow reserve LoI teams and non LoI entities to compete. That would be a good level for a Kerry DL team.
I don't think any club in Kerry is prepared to enter the league. An intermediary league can afford non LoI entities the possibility of forming a club if that becomes their natural evolution over time.

[pineapple stu]

Metro Wanderers FC? Dublin Bay FC?

I'd put money on the club changing it's name back to Bray in a few years, it's not like the Cabo ultras will riot if they don't get their representation

Bray Wanderers Incorporating Cabinteely FC has LoI precedent on its side...

[sbgawa]

How's the hangover Stu?

[littlebray]

What about Bray Cabs? Oh, no, that's taken ...

[pineapple stu]

How's the hangover Stu?
Got kicked out of McDowell's shortly before midnight. Thought they might stay open a bit longer for the occasion, but no...

Mustn't be used to winning things down Inchicore way :)

[D24Saint]

Got kicked out of McDowell's shortly before midnight. Thought they might stay open a bit longer for the occasion, but no...

Mustn't be used to winning things down Inchicore way :)

The local carabinieri are spoil sports, the merest hint of merriment in the locality and they march straight in. Our celebrations got cut short a few times over the years.

[peadar1987]

I have to say this is all pretty bizarre. Is there a precedent from another league of one club just wading in and buying another?

[culloty82]

I have to say this is all pretty bizarre. Is there a precedent from another league of one club just wading in and buying another?

Seems to happen regularly in Europe, particularly in Belgium, Spain and Germany, where clubs hold matriculations, or merely the right to a league placing, so when clubs go bust, other teams buy the rights, often to bounce up a division - see FC Andorra in Spain, and how Red Bull got into the German league pyramid.

[pineapple stu]

I think this is different though - that's kind of buying the defunct club's licence/league place. This seems to be the departing club buying the other one. It is strange alright.

[eitoof]

Senior team to remain as Bray and underage LOI teams to be named Cabinteely.

[Philosophizer]

Senior team to remain as Bray and underage LOI teams to be named Cabinteely.
That's far too sensible. Do they not realise this is the LOI??

[Stav]

Best of luck to them. Hopefully it is vibrant club going forward and competing at the top end of the league. Has to be a question as to how big a following there is in Bray. Need to get out and support the club in numbers.

[EatYerGreens]

Echoes of Home Farm - then a junior club - buying and usurping Drumcondra in 1972, wheh they were one of the LOI's aristocrats (albeit a struggling one) ? Though at least Home Farm won out in that name game.

[Bucket]

It just seems like Cabo paid the St Joe's lads to leave so they could run Brays youth teams instead

[sbgawa]

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[sadloserkid]

Examiner saying we're looking at a 9-team second tier next season instead of 'seeking expressions of interest'.

[pineapple stu]

Why would you not seek expressions of interest?

Especially given the LoI is talking of adding a dozen or so new clubs in 2023 for a third tier.

What hope does that have if it's already a foregone conclusion we can't find one new team for the second tier?

[2 Year Contract]

Here we go again :D Irish Sea FC ready to go at it again, their Twitter is quite active on the topic in the last few minutes

https://twitter.com/irishseafc1/status/1466885005280522253?s=21

[Burnsie]

Here we go again :D Irish Sea FC ready to go at it again, their Twitter is quite active on the topic in the last few minutes

https://twitter.com/irishseafc1/status/1466885005280522253?s=21

based solely on their Twitter posts, I'll picket Abbotstown if these clowns ever get anywhere near the League of Ireland

[Nesta99]

It still stinks of a persistent hoax, not sure elaborate is the right word.

[Longfordian]

Irish Sea incorporating counties not touching the Irish Sea FC

[EatYerGreens]

Here we go again :D Irish Sea FC ready to go at it again, their Twitter is quite active on the topic in the last few minutes

https://twitter.com/irishseafc1/status/1466885005280522253?s=21

Is that still that kid who did the Forgotten clubs blog ?

[D24Saint]

Good to see this wrapped up in a manor that provides continuity for Bray supporters.