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Olé Olé
09/10/2021, 2:48 PM
3-4-3 I assume. I just don't get the Horgan pick. He has been okay on the counter for us when games open up. He is not good enough to pick teams apart. McGrath has seemed far more inventive to me. I would have rathered Stevens too but McClean was good v Serbia. Worryingly, McClean seemed very frustrated with the options Horgan provided him against Serbia. On top of that, we don't shout goals with that front three.

third policeman
09/10/2021, 2:52 PM
Horgan and MaClean should never be selected. Believing that either of them is at this level is more than a blind spot it’s delusional.

pineapple stu
09/10/2021, 2:53 PM
I don't think any front three would really shout goals in fairness.

The bench is Kelleher, Travers, Stevens, Hourihane, Parrott, N Collins, Christie, Arter, McGrath, J Collins, Ogbene and Connolly.

Stevens and maybe McGrath are the obvious ones who could have started. Other than that, I don't see anyone really improving the starting line-up.

Olé Olé
09/10/2021, 2:59 PM
I don't think any front three would really shout goals in fairness.

The bench is Kelleher, Travers, Stevens, Hourihane, Parrott, N Collins, Christie, Arter, McGrath, J Collins, Ogbene and Connolly.

Stevens and maybe McGrath are the obvious ones who could have started. Other than that, I don't see anyone really improving the starting line-up.

McGrath would be the one for me but I would take Ogbene or Connolly over Horgan if McGrath were out of the equation. I hope I'm wrong but I can see Horgan flailing here and coming up with nothing.

tetsujin1979
09/10/2021, 3:06 PM
confirmation of the lineup
No real issues with it, apart from Horgan
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Eirambler
09/10/2021, 3:08 PM
I don't think any front three would really shout goals in fairness.

The bench is Kelleher, Travers, Stevens, Hourihane, Parrott, N Collins, Christie, Arter, McGrath, J Collins, Ogbene and Connolly.

Stevens and maybe McGrath are the obvious ones who could have started. Other than that, I don't see anyone really improving the starting line-up.

You don't think Aaron Connolly is a better player than Daryl Horgan?

I don't get the Horgan pick. I don't get the McClean pick. I don't get the 3-4-3 that may see us overrun in central midfield depending on what Azerbaijan are like. But then again I don't really get Kenny either.

That team and formation makes me feel like we're hoping for a bit of luck now, or just hoping that Azerbaijan are maybe, hopefully just as poor a team as their ranking and results suggests. But then that would then make our failure to beat them at home (and need for a late equaliser to nick a draw) even worse than it already looks.

Briuk
09/10/2021, 3:13 PM
Knight is a bit of a surprise, unless he's injured?

No Keane is a way makes no sense. Why make a bit of a song and dance about a new forward option and then leave him out of the squad entirely?

0-0.

Because he wanted to meet him, see how he fits in the system and then, probably, to try him in a friendly that we have next week. Before risking his head with a guy, he has only spoken on the phone with

tetsujin1979
09/10/2021, 3:25 PM
Because he wanted to meet him, see how he fits in the system and then, probably, to try him in a friendly that we have next week. Before risking his head with a guy, he has only spoken on the phone with

If the manager has called up a player that he's only spoken to him on the phone (and he hasn't - he's been seen at Wigan games recently) then he should be moved on.

pineapple stu
09/10/2021, 3:25 PM
You don't think Aaron Connolly is a better player than Daryl Horgan?

Honestly, no.

Connolly has done little enough at club or country to suggest he really has an international future.

Horgan is limited too for sure, but I like attitude far more. That doesn't count for much I know, but he overachieves in the green whereas Connolly flatters to deceive. Horgan has even scored.

Ideally neither would be in the squad of course, but needs must

liamoo11
09/10/2021, 3:26 PM
Horgan and MaClean should never be selected. Believing that either of them is at this level is more than a blind spot it’s delusional.


You don't think Aaron Connolly is a better player than Daryl Horgan?

I don't get the Horgan pick. I don't get the McClean pick. I don't get the 3-4-3 that may see us overrun in central midfield depending on what Azerbaijan are like. But then again I don't really get Kenny either.

That team and formation makes me feel like we're hoping for a bit of luck now, or just hoping that Azerbaijan are maybe, hopefully just as poor a team as their ranking and results suggests. But then that would then make our failure to beat them at home (and need for a late equaliser to nick a draw) even worse than it already looks.


Agree with this. We had massive central areas of the pitch in the middle and forward thirds with no orish players on them at home against these making us totally disjointed. Play 2 up top and 3 in central midfield leave tge spaces out wide not centrally for the wingbacks to move into

zero
09/10/2021, 3:34 PM
this seems a strange position to take. SK has been given an incredibly long leash behind integrating new players.

the team selection says two things to me : 1) he realises the gravity of the situation in that he needs a win.

2) he has bottled it by selecting lads he knows will give their all for him.

he may get away with it because Azerbaijan are clearly garbage and I suppose all will then be forgiven.

tetsujin1979
09/10/2021, 3:41 PM
I'm confused by McGrath starting on the bench. He's good enough to start against Portugal and Serbia, but he's not good enough to start against Azerbaijan?

We played badly in his absence against Azerbaijan at home as well, after a good performance against Portugal

Eirambler
09/10/2021, 3:47 PM
I'm confused by McGrath starting on the bench. He's good enough to start against Portugal and Serbia, but he's not good enough to start against Azerbaijan?

We played badly in his absence against Azerbaijan at home as well, after a good performance against Portugal

It's a product of the switch to 3-4-3. If we're only picking two central midfielders there isn't room for a McGrath type. Don't agree with it myself, but presumably that's the reasoning.


Agree with this. We had massive central areas of the pitch in the middle and forward thirds with no orish players on them at home against these making us totally disjointed. Play 2 up top and 3 in central midfield leave tge spaces out wide not centrally for the wingbacks to move into

Incidentally I agree with every word of this.

Olé Olé
09/10/2021, 3:48 PM
I'm confused by McGrath starting on the bench. He's good enough to start against Portugal and Serbia, but he's not good enough to start against Azerbaijan?

We played badly in his absence against Azerbaijan at home as well, after a good performance against Portugal

And he can score a goal. And he can unlock a defence with a pass. He just feels like a far better option (and player) for this game than Horgan.

centre mid
09/10/2021, 3:58 PM
Any sort of win will do nicely plese lads.

tetsujin1979
09/10/2021, 4:05 PM
It's a product of the switch to 3-4-3. If we're only picking two central midfielders there isn't room for a McGrath type. Don't agree with it myself, but presumably that's the reasoning.
True, but we could play Cullen and McGrath in midfield, with Hendrick behind the front two, or Hourihane, or rotate Hendrick from midfield with either of those two in the support role

passinginterest
09/10/2021, 4:07 PM
Positive start and a goal! Keep it up!!

passinginterest
09/10/2021, 4:07 PM
High press causing them huge problems. Worry we’re a bit open to a counter though. Otherwise perfect start.

centre mid
09/10/2021, 4:08 PM
What a goal great stuff

shakermaker1982
09/10/2021, 4:08 PM
What a goal.

passinginterest
09/10/2021, 4:17 PM
Worrying still when they break, with Cullen and Hendrick pressing there’s a big hole when we lose the ball cheaply. Happened with Doherty a few mins ago and they were effectively 3v3 immediately.

Hopefully knocks to Cullen and Robinson are not serious. They’re both very important to this system.

centre mid
09/10/2021, 4:19 PM
Been poor since the goal. Tempo dropped and not much link uos

shakermaker1982
09/10/2021, 4:20 PM
Starting to let them back into the game…

liamoo11
09/10/2021, 4:29 PM
Horgan and MaClean should never be selected. Believing that either of them is at this level is more than a blind spot it’s delusional.

Horgan having a brutal time

Nesta99
09/10/2021, 4:31 PM
Blunted that burst of momentum. Need to be better shifting the ball around the corner to not have the Azerbaijanis bombing forward on the break. Coughing up some silly fouls.

zero
09/10/2021, 4:32 PM
been awful since the goal. we might win here but again, little to no evidence of progress so far.

Nesta99
09/10/2021, 4:38 PM
Horgan looks like he is struggling with the pace of the game, heavy legged very early.

zero
09/10/2021, 4:39 PM
this is garbage. we're as bad as ever under SK.

passinginterest
09/10/2021, 4:40 PM
Hopefully that settles them down again. A team desperately looking for a win will always be a bit nervy at 1-0.

Olé Olé
09/10/2021, 4:40 PM
Robinson should dedicate that goal to Joe Duffy.

pineapple stu
09/10/2021, 4:40 PM
Robinson!

Now get a vaccine you dopey ****. :)

Awful keeping, even with the deflection

passinginterest
09/10/2021, 4:41 PM
Robinson!

Now get a vaccine you dopey ****. :)

Awful keeping, even with the deflection

Most convincing argument not to get it I’ve seen put forward yet 😄

zero
09/10/2021, 4:42 PM
fair play to Callum. a bright spark.

Olé Olé
09/10/2021, 4:46 PM
This position suits Robinson. Idah isn't doing much bar occupy the defenders in front of Robinson. But it is working. If Horgan was better we would be flying.

osarusan
09/10/2021, 4:48 PM
Super start, like we knew we were just better them and were going to dismiss them. Super goal too.

Then we just retreated and slowed down, and just let them into the game without earning it at all, inviting needless pressure onto ourselves. Lucky they are so toothless up front.

A bit lucky with the second, keeper had a howler really.

Hopefully we don't just try to invite and soak up pressure in the second half. This could be a 4-0 or 5-0 win if we go for it.

Horgan has been woeful.

liamoo11
09/10/2021, 4:50 PM
Horgan and MaClean should never be selected. Believing that either of them is at this level is more than a blind spot it’s delusional.

Surely horgan comes off now let mcgrath come on , have 3 in midfield and let Robinson play off idah.

centre mid
09/10/2021, 4:54 PM
Liveline callers will ve fuming

Insidetherock
09/10/2021, 4:57 PM
I've always wanted Horgan to do well because he looks like an honest pro who gives his all.. but his all here is so far short it's ridiculous. We're basically two up with ten men because he's been terrible. And even worse he's causing trouble for Mc Clean behind him. He surely has to go at the break. Might be the perfect game to get Connolly on and maybe break his duck in a green shirt

passinginterest
09/10/2021, 5:00 PM
I think the criticism of Horgan is a bit over the top. Hasn’t been great but he is making intelligent runs that are creating space. Unfortunately he’s made some really poor final balls after getting into good spots. Wouldn’t be sad to see any of McGrath/Ogbene/Connolly

Olé Olé
09/10/2021, 5:04 PM
I think the criticism of Horgan is a bit over the top. Hasn’t been great but he is making intelligent runs that are creating space. Unfortunately he’s made some really poor final balls after getting into good spots. Wouldn’t be sad to see any of McGrath/Ogbene/Connolly

I think the criticism is more down to the fact that most people bar Kenny saw that coming I.e. not producing enough. McGrath coming in at half time sees the penny drop with Kenny.

DCWA
09/10/2021, 5:04 PM
We love the boss, we love Ireland, we love CalRob

passinginterest
09/10/2021, 5:11 PM
Couple of great chances this half. Really hope we don’t end up regretting those. Can’t believe McLean didn’t square it.

osarusan
09/10/2021, 5:16 PM
I was just thinking that I'd love to see Ogbene come on, somebody with the pace to run at this tiring and stretched defence.

passinginterest
09/10/2021, 5:17 PM
All these missed chances are causing me serious anxiety! Interesting now with Ogbene on. I thought Idah was having a good second half but he’s obviously not 100%

Nesta99
09/10/2021, 5:23 PM
I think the criticism is more down to the fact that most people bar Kenny saw that coming I.e. not producing enough. McGrath coming in at half time sees the penny drop with Kenny.

Horgan is probably better as an impact type sub at this stage, have him run at tired defenders when space can open up. Im not so sure he was subbed due to performance than maybe there was an issue prior like injury or low energy after a dose. SK is not usually the quickest with subs. Idah was always going to happen earlier than normal.

Need to make better decisions up front to ake those sort of chances count. You'd expect it with younger attackers learning their trade, McClean should have the experience to have squared that chance. It was a serious effort to get in to that position in fairness after that flick round the corner that Kenny likes to use to have the opposition sit deeper. Seems unfair to moan but we should be out of sight and be 4 up with that Duffy chance too.

liamoo11
09/10/2021, 5:38 PM
Horgan and MaClean should never be selected. Believing that either of them is at this level is more than a blind spot it’s delusional.


Horgan is probably better as an impact type sub at this stage, have him run at tired defenders when space can open up. Im not so sure he was subbed due to performance than maybe there was an issue prior like injury or low energy after a dose. SK is not usually the quickest with subs. Idah was always going to happen earlier than normal.

Need to make better decisions up front to ake those sort of chances count. You'd expect it with younger attackers learning their trade, McClean should have the experience to have squared that chance. It was a serious effort to get in to that position in fairness after that flick round the corner that Kenny likes to use to have the opposition sit deeper. Seems unfair to moan but we should be out of sight and be 4 up with that Duffy chance too.


Horgan s issue is his total lack of quality in his final ball . He can run all day at tired defenders and cut back and loop hopeless balls in but that can't be good enough at this level

pineapple stu
09/10/2021, 5:39 PM
There's Bazunu's howler for the game. Wojus attempt at a save - but give him credit; he's a lucky keeper, and that counts for something

tommy_c12000
09/10/2021, 5:46 PM
This was needed. Well done Kenny

pineapple stu
09/10/2021, 5:50 PM
That Azeri keeper is possibly the worst I've seen since the Gibraltar lad who scored for us.

Not a great performance and Portugal won't be scared, but **** it. We need this

zero
09/10/2021, 5:53 PM
desperately needed win. the home side were poor and we looked shaky at times but results matter.