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sbgawa
22/09/2021, 12:04 AM
Yes absolutely but if u want to make the point that if bohs had had a better round 1 they would be right there in the league then happy days for you...in a scenario where u get to award yourself a better round one and every one else just accepts their bad periods then congratulations u are in the title race. I am simply making the point that allowing everyone to pick the games they ignore knocks u back out of the race.

Saying bohs would have won the league if they had won every game is just as correct but irrelevant

David BOHie
22/09/2021, 2:02 AM
Yes absolutely but if u want to make the point that if bohs had had a better round 1 they would be right there in the league then happy days for you...in a scenario where u get to award yourself a better round one and every one else just accepts their bad periods then congratulations u are in the title race. I am simply making the point that allowing everyone to pick the games they ignore knocks u back out of the race.

Saying bohs would have won the league if they had won every game is just as correct but irrelevant

Once again, you're completely missing the point.

This is my final attempt because you're either trolling, being deliberately obtuse or just not up to it.

I am not contending that if Bohs had a better first round they'd win the league, baselessly.

Partysaint contended there is something structurally wrong with our season and we were poor throughout. I simply said, our form for the second and third rounds of games are actually very good (i.e. once we got going) and it is fair to say that had we a better round 1, contrary to Partysaint's hypothesis, we would be up there.

sbgawa
22/09/2021, 6:28 AM
My final effort also.
I'm not missing your point. You are 18 points behind.
Your point is that if you beat Harps you would be 15 points behind. If you had another 10 points added to make up for your bad start you would be on 50 and right in the title race as you would be only 5 behind. I can't argue with simple maths and I'm not trying to.

This is a discussion forum.
My Counter point to your point (I am allowed make a point) is that while your maths is correct you r logic is flawed as every team has bad patches in a league , Rovers only picked up 12 in the middle set for instance. Look at sligo run of defeats in the last 9 games.
It's the nature of a long league.. look at harps start.
Im simply querying the logic of adding points to one teams total and not to others who have had their own bad patch's. Take out Sligos bad run and they are bang in it. That doesn't make the simple Maths you state wrong. Bohs plus 13 points looks good

Dalymountrower
22/09/2021, 8:32 AM
My final effort also.
I'm not missing your point. You are 18 points behind.
Your point is that if you beat Harps you would be 15 points behind. If you had another 10 points added to make up for your bad start you would be on 50 and right in the title race as you would be only 5 behind. I can't argue with simple maths and I'm not trying to.

This is a discussion forum.
My Counter point to your point (I am allowed make a point) is that while your maths is correct you r logic is flawed as every team has bad patches in a league , Rovers only picked up 12 in the middle set for instance. Look at sligo run of defeats in the last 9 games.
It's the nature of a long league.. look at harps start.
Im simply querying the logic of adding points to one teams total and not to others who have had their own bad patch's. Take out Sligos bad run and they are bang in it. That doesn't make the simple Maths you state wrong. Bohs plus 13 points looks good

It`s the dropped points in fixtures against maybe the bottom half clubs , in terms of resources, that is a better comparitor? Bohs have dropped 14 points against Longford, Harps, Drogs and Waterford. Rovers and Pats have dropped 3 (?) in comparison against those clubs.
Bohs have also dropped six points from 9 each v Sligo and Pats and five points from 9 v Derry. It means that Bohs, however entertaining the football may be, deserve to be where they are . struggling between fifth and fourth

Dalymountrower
22/09/2021, 8:34 AM
Edit, 7 from 9 v Derry.

lofty9
22/09/2021, 9:13 AM
Paid Crusaders ~30k stg for McGonigle and give him a 3.5 year contract.

McEleney 3.5 year pre contract of course it will be the off season tells a story.

Duffy looking for a 5 year contract, as he's been offered wages at Dundalk that Derry wont commit to. Security, but not sky high wages is what Derry can offer now.

sbgawa
22/09/2021, 3:55 PM
After a tough match last night with extra time for both Harps and Dundalk Bohs (v harps) and Sligo (v Dundalk) might anticipate a slightly easier match then otherwise.
How many of Dundalk's Covid players can come back in for Friday or do we even know if they had covid or were they inconclusive and test again?

sulywaterfordfc
22/09/2021, 7:05 PM
Paid Crusaders ~30k stg for McGonigle and give him a 3.5 year contract.

McEleney 3.5 year pre contract of course it will be the off season tells a story.

I’d assume Derry will be giving players 52 week contracts from next season on? Do Derry train as full time pros?

Pretty sure we train full time and have done since Power came in but under Powers ownership we paid 40 week deals, not sure what’s happening with the new signings under the new ownership contract wise.

Martinho II
22/09/2021, 8:49 PM
I’d assume Derry will be giving players 52 week contracts from next season on? Do Derry train as full time pros?

Pretty sure we train full time and have done since Power came in but under Powers ownership we paid 40 week deals, not sure what’s happening with the new signings under the new ownership contract wise.

I dont think DC are full time yet but I reckon that once POD pumps money from his shareholding ceasin they will be on the rd to going FT.

DCWA
22/09/2021, 9:37 PM
I dont think DC are full time yet but I reckon that once POD pumps money from his shareholding ceasin they will be on the rd to going FT.

We are full time have been for several years. 40 week, 12 month contracts it had been mainly mind you hence the massive changes in squad every season, that is what will change or has changed.

nigel-harps1954
23/09/2021, 12:04 AM
I dont think DC are full time yet but I reckon that once POD pumps money from his shareholding ceasin they will be on the rd to going FT.

Several players have left Harps over the years to go to Derry for full time training. Goes back a fair few years too.

Eminence Grise
23/09/2021, 7:56 AM
I’d assume Derry will be giving players 52 week contracts from next season on?

But what about the other 26 weeks?:p

Dalymountrower
23/09/2021, 8:35 AM
But what about the other 26 weeks?:p
The 26 week contracts are for the attention of Her Majesties Revenue Commissioners