Promoting the club

[Schumi]

Thursday should be OK for me too.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Put your proposals that you make to the club up here please!

[Poor Student]

I think it'll probably be mainly discussing ideas put up here but will post some summary of what went on up for the rest of you.

[Poor Student]

So this is 100% on then? At 7:30? Can anyone tell me where the Montrose is exactly?

[pineapple stu]

Across the road from UCD, over the flyover.

Heading in from Stillorgan, go up the flyover as if going to UCD, then turn right instead of left and the Montrose is ahead of you to your left.

[Poor Student]

For those who weren't there the basic gist of the meeting:
- work on getting foreign lanuage students on campus to the games, get in contact with their supervisors to do this etc.
- work on establishing better links with local underage football clubs to offer free/discount tickets to players, get in contact with their coaches etc.
- canvas on registration day for students handing out flyers with offers of free or discounted tickets for the first two home games of the college year, drop overheads in the projectors before lectures to remind students of games
- get tickets for games sold on campus SU shops, also get some club merchandise sold there too
- see if we can get posters announcing games put up in local shops and possibly local schools
- get family tickets sold at the club, say €30 for 2 adults/2 kids or 1 adult/3 kids
-get in contact with local summer camps and offer day trips to matches with cheap price per head

That cover it I think. Pinapple is going to meet McNally to discuss the ideas and discounts today. Also make sure you are at the Bohs game in Dalymount next week and try to wear the club colours and bring any flags with club colours if you have them. We are gathering in Block B of the Jody Stand. The game is live on TV so we want some good colour.

[CollegeTillIDie]

For those who weren't there the basic gist of the meeting:
- work on getting foreign lanuage students on campus to the games, get in contact with their supervisors to do this etc.
- work on establishing better links with local underage football clubs to offer free/discount tickets to players, get in contact with their coaches etc.
- canvas on registration day for students handing out flyers with offers of free or discounted tickets for the first two home games of the college year, drop overheads in the projectors before lectures to remind students of games
- get tickets for games sold on campus SU shops, also get some club merchandise sold there too
- see if we can get posters announcing games put up in local shops and possibly local schools
- get family tickets sold at the club, say €30 for 2 adults/2 kids or 1 adult/3 kids
-get in contact with local summer camps and offer day trips to matches with cheap price per head

That cover it I think. Pinapple is going to meet McNally to discuss the ideas and discounts today. Also make sure you are at the Bohs game in Dalymount next week and try to wear the club colours and bring any flags with club colours if you have them. We are gathering in Block B of the Jody Stand. The game is live on TV so we want some good colour.


All good initiatives... but don't be too surprised by a less than enthusiastic response from your fellow students when term begins..............

[Bald Student]

don't be too surprised by a less than enthusiastic response from your fellow students when term beginsDon't worry CTID. I might only be a Johnny-Come-Lately but I'm here long enough to not be surprised at that

[Poor Student]

CTID we expect no response so anything is a bonus. We must try anyway. Btw there is an away trip to Cork on Sept 30th. Pinapple said it would be ideal to see if non-regulars would be up for an overnighter in Cork. Anyone have any idea what came of Pinapple's discussion with McNally?

[CollegeTillIDie]

CTID we expect no response so anything is a bonus. We must try anyway. Btw there is an away trip to Cork on Sept 30th. Pinapple said it would be ideal to see if non-regulars would be up for an overnighter in Cork. Anyone have any idea what came of Pinapple's discussion with McNally?

It's too far away to tell if I will be available on September 30th will think about it closer to the time. Was supposed to be going away around then. Looks like I will be here at this point.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Don't worry CTID. I might only be a Johnny-Come-Lately but I'm here long enough to not be surprised at that

You're only Johnny come Lately to foot.ie Bald Student :D

[Poor Student]

It's too far away to tell if I will be available on September 30th will think about it closer to the time. Was supposed to be going away around then. Looks like I will be here at this point.

Sorry CTID should have made myself a bit clearer. Pinapple had the idea to advertise an overnight trip to Galway (last season I think?) in the college. A few nobodys who possibly have never attended a single game expressed an interest in going but it fell through as something came up for him. By non-regulars I meant at any games. I'm just posting up about the Cork game to see what he thinks about doing it again as it is in the college year.

[Schumi]

Pinapple had the idea to advertise an overnight trip to Galway (last season I think?) in the college.
That was a good few years ago, probably the play-off season (2000/1).

[CollegeTillIDie]

Sorry CTID should have made myself a bit clearer. Pinapple had the idea to advertise an overnight trip to Galway (last season I think?) in the college. A few nobodys who possibly have never attended a single game expressed an interest in going but it fell through as something came up for him. By non-regulars I meant at any games. I'm just posting up about the Cork game to see what he thinks about doing it again as it is in the college year.
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Might be too close to the start of term but worth a try. I am not a regular attender at games outside of Dublin these days...

[pineapple stu]

Anyone have any idea what came of Pinapple's discussion with McNally?
We got a lift home from Derry with Looper Hooper, the team doctor, instead, so no talk held that night. Will try and arrange a meeting on Friday.

Incidentally, I was away for the week on a St John camp with 26 kids aged from 11 to 16. I'd say about one-third of them had been to a UCD game at some stage. I think that's actually a good percentage and it does show at least that we are creating some awareness in the area. One teacher in Hollypark gives out tickets every Friday there's a home game.

[Poor Student]

Pineapple on the foreign student thingy. There is definately potential. In the Bohs game about 30 (or possibly more) Spanish students came in after 20 mins and started cheering for UCD the whole game. Don't know why, cheering for the underdog or doing a course at UCD perhaps? But whatever it was it showed potential, definately something worth following up.

[Bald Student]

the new crest http://www.stigonline.com/crest.bmp

[Poor Student]

For the college itself and the club or just the club? So we're now UCDD or University College Dublin Dublin? :D

[Aberdonian Stu]

Report in today's indo about it. It's the new crest for everything in the College. Looks a bit like something an IT would have. The name is worthy of mockery, is it UCD, UCDD, or University College double Dublin?

They've also removed the two mottos, Ad Astra and Cothrom na Féine. WHich takes away a bit of the grandeur. Apparently a survey of staff and students said they didn't identify with the old crest...my solution would have been to look at who they were asking not to dump the crest.

I can sense a rant coming so I'd better stop and get back to work.

[Bald Student]

I think it's University College Dublin Dublin NUI Dublin in full.
Still the longest team name in europe.

[Aberdonian Stu]

No I've got it they're trying to make people associate the college with big boobs by calling it University College DD.

That'll get the classy upmarket crowd in.

[Poor Student]

Is there any chance the club won't follow suit? Anyone know how long we had the old crest? It does seem very stupid we've dumped the mottos.

[Schumi]

the new crest http://www.stigonline.com/crest.bmp
Ugh! Worst crest I've ever seen.

[Bald Student]

Is there any chance the club won't follow suit?I would say quite a strong chance. Sure, the shorts for the current kit still hav'n't arrived from O'Neills. There's little chance of a new kit any time soon.

[Aberdonian Stu]

I'd say they'll change when they next change kit. I remember Shakespeare saying we were using the "old" crest when we got the scarves in, around a year ago!

[el tk]

They've also removed the two mottos, Ad Astra and Cothrom na Féine.


That confused the hell out of me, I thought it was all one motto.

[pineapple stu]

I remember Shakespeare saying we were using the "old" crest when we got the scarves in, around a year ago!
Hmmm...old crest...scarves...bugger! :mad:

[Poor Student]

Hmmm...old crest...scarves...bugger! :mad:

On the contrary, a new design to sell to those who bought the old ones. :p

Ad Astra is Latin, "to the stars". The other one is Gaeilge, how does it translate lads?

[pineapple stu]

"Through your own efforts"? Seems to suit the idea of college too.

I wonder do students associate with the new crest any better? Do we have any tangible evidence of the benefits of changing crest? Load of rubbish, to be honest.

We haven't made the money back on the first crop of scarves, so there's no chance we'll be doling out on another batch! It can be our protest against the new crest! :)

[Poor Student]

We haven't made the money back on the first crop of scarves, so there's no chance we'll be doling out on another batch! It can be our protest against the new crest! :)

:D

Pineapple are you going to be having a word with McNally about the points of our meeting?

[pineapple stu]

Incidentally, Schumi, did I see the new tricolour/crest flag sneaking in its debut in Dalyer on Friday? Reckon we sue Brady for the costs of changing! :)

[Poor Student]

Eh Pineapple? My question. :p

[pineapple stu]

My answer a few posts back? ;)

Will be talking to him at the match tomorrow. Try and get a time to meet up. Maybe after this match on Sunday he's (apparently) reffing for us.

[Poor Student]

My answer a few posts back? ;)

Will be talking to him at the match tomorrow. Try and get a time to meet up. Maybe after this match on Sunday he's (apparently) reffing for us.

Ah sorry, my fault. Forgot about that post.:o As I said earlier somewhere, take the idea of linking up with the foreign language students serious, a load turned up at Dayler cheering for us.

[pineapple stu]

As I said earlier somewhere, take the idea of linking up with the foreign language students serious, a load turned up at Dayler cheering for us.
There's a few posters gone up around the college today, I think. No others posters around really, so they should stand out as well.

[Poor Student]

There's a few posters gone up around the college today, I think. No others posters around really, so they should stand out as well.

Nice one. That's a bit of a start. Did you do that? The best approach though will be to contact the head of their courses. Hopefully in conjuction with some sort of group package deal you could get permission to offer of McNally.

[CollegeTillIDie]

The new crest is gank... Brady must resign :mad:

[Schumi]

Incidentally, Schumi, did I see the new tricolour/crest flag sneaking in its debut in Dalyer on Friday? Reckon we sue Brady for the costs of changing! :)
No change. Down with the new crest!

[CollegeTillIDie]

There's a few posters gone up around the college today, I think. No others posters around really, so they should stand out as well.
I pitched this idea( about attracting foreign students) at the time I went for the interview for the gig that Diarmuid got back in 2000. ;)

[pineapple stu]

Maccer's away on holidays for a week or so, so the talk will have to wait a wee while yet...

[DmanDmythDledge]

What sort of promotions do the club partake in at the moment? Our average is down from last season. With our move to The Bowl coming up maybe a new marketing campaign would be a good idea.

Are posters still being put up around the college? Are posters sent out to anybody/anywhere outside of the college?

As was mentioned earlier in this thread we have a lot of south Dublin to target. I think the notion that it being a rugby heartland shouldn't be a problem. Soccer is extremely popular in the area and there are many schoolboy teams. The only problem would be if any of our games clashed with a Leinster game(eg Cork game). They got something like 27,000 for their match against Munster. Now I know that their attendences can't really be compared to ours because they are one of the best teams in Europe in their sport, but it shows that people would get off their arse on a Friday night to watch a sporting event- although it could have something to do with some of the best players in the world being on show. Anyway getting back to Leinster many of their home games are on a Friday evening, and most people with a choice would go with the rugger. Maybe a switch to Saturday nights(7.45pm) could increase our attendences, from a home and away point of view? Even the Saturday evening could work, if it was marketed and advertised properly.

There is so much potential in our fanbase, we just new to find the right ideas and ways to attract them to games.

[Schumi]

Posts about the capacity of the Bowl have been moved to the Bowl thread as they're far more relevant there.

[Maynard]

On the contrary, a new design to sell to those who bought the old ones. :p

Ad Astra is Latin, "to the stars". The other one is Gaeilge, how does it translate lads?


Cothrom na Feine - That was a term the old Brathair de Barra was quite fond of just across the road from you lot, in Colaiste Eoin.

It translates to something like; Equal Justice or Justice and Equality.

The phrase was always used (in my experience) in the sense of giving someone or something a fair crack of the whip - multiple senarios, but basically to be fair with someone. Something UCD could probably ask of John Delaney methinks...

" A Sheanin a stor, le do thoill, an bhfuil cead ag an Ollscoil began goddamn cothrom na motherf*cking feine?"

[micls]

Cothrom na Féine just means equality

[pineapple stu]

Comhthrom féinne; no "na"

[Poor Student]

It's a long time since I posted that. I thought I had since found out it meant "though your own efforts" though I don't have a significant level of Irish to translate it myself.

[pineapple stu]

That's what I thought as well, to be honest.

Féin obviously means self, while "trom" means weight, or effort.

[Maynard]

That's what I thought as well, to be honest.

Féin obviously means self, while "trom" means weight, or effort.

Irish phrases don't really work like that...

[CollegeTillIDie]

If this is any help there used to be a show on RTE called " Trom agus Éadrom" which meant Light and Heavy. The old badge is best for a number of reasons not least of which is the "juxtaposition of Latin and the First Official Language of the State". The new badge is only mildly less awful than the new FAI logo.


The old badge was classy and a great way to promote not only the club but The University as an institution. The new badge is crass and quite frankly too plastically tacky. Typically North American which means FUHRER Brady loves it :(

[pineapple stu]

"To the stars; fair play" according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_College_Dublin_-_National_University_of_Ireland,_Dublin#Presidents _of_UCD).