View Full Version : Noel Kings Last EL Weekly.
jorge
04/07/2005, 11:16 PM
They said it at the end of the show :( but who will replace him.
gael353
05/07/2005, 12:09 AM
im glad as he has no knowledge of teh first division and keeps slagging off harps as though he has a bitter gripe agaisnt them for giving him a job two years ago
Slash/ED
05/07/2005, 12:13 AM
Kinger got better as he went on, he was natural on the camera and a decent laugh at times. Far better than some of the pundits they get on who look like they don't have a clue what to do in front of a camera.
I'll miss his ties most of all :(
A face
05/07/2005, 12:14 AM
Thought it was a good laugh him throwing over the tie to Trevor at the end .... He has alot of faults but there are alot worse aswell.
Who will be taking the reigns from here on in ..... wouldn't be a bad idea if they tried out a few people instead of selecting one straight away .... might get alot of different opinion that way .... thought McCue offered the most recently with his knowledge and observation of the league, but would need a few programmes under his belt i'd say. Paul Osam was good too but came across as really boring at times, and you'd need a bigger personality there to improve the show.
Any suggestions ??
pineapple stu
05/07/2005, 12:16 AM
Any suggestions ??
Digger O'Brien! :D
Dazzy
05/07/2005, 12:20 AM
Pat Dolan :eek:
harry crumb
05/07/2005, 12:26 AM
I think Noel King was good. He knew his stuff and was good fun.
They could try and get Brian Kerr maybe.
The northern accent comes across very well on TV so maybe a former player from Derry City. Liam Coyle maybe!
Slash/ED
05/07/2005, 12:27 AM
Would rather someone not from Dublin (Look a dubliner ranting about people being pro dublin :p ) as everyone on the show seems to have a Dublin accent bar Trevor, makes it seem more like a Dublin centred league.
Dolan may be many things (there is a character limit on posts here so unfortunately I can't quite go into that....) but he's very very good on TV, so long as he's not useing it to promote himself as could turn out to be the case. He'd be a good pundit, and recognisable to the average Joe as he's done the confeds cup.
For all his faults Noel King was a pro compared with Scully, McHue, Osam etc...
Haven't seen his last appearance yet but hopefully will be record when i get home :eek:
Reckon it will be Dolan. Kinger didn't look too happy about leaving tbh. Has he got something else lined up? Maybe the $hels job??? ;)
drummerboy
05/07/2005, 8:30 AM
I think he will be hard to replace. He has taken over as national director of women soccer, which is a full time post.
I think the TV3 gig doesn't pay too much, hence the Dublin-based pundits. If you wanted a guy who knows the scene outside Dublin, what about Dave Barry.
garykelly
05/07/2005, 8:41 AM
why can they bring in a different manager from each club each week. They'd give good insights into the game and would be williing to do it to increase exposure for their clubs. Have a manager alongside someone like Pat Dolan or Brian kerr (to show he's a bit interested). Or even someone objective from outside the league to give a neutral opinion.
Also the format could be changed. seems to pack in too much in too little time while glossing over some good games and good talking points. Its strange set-up cos they always run out of time, yet they spend the early part of the highlights showing players warming up - bad idea. if your stuck for time then just show the highlights and spend some proper time discussing them. they could also throw in a player of the month and do a profile on him. something that's interesting at least.
monutdfc
05/07/2005, 8:44 AM
I think Scully has improved as the weeks went on and he and King had developed a good partnership. He needs to be the foil to a bigger personality though, they need a good replacement for Kinger.
Roddy Collins anyone :D
carrickharp
05/07/2005, 9:26 AM
aaaaaaaaaaaaa how he will be missed :rolleyes:
Troy.McClure
05/07/2005, 10:43 AM
Ha, maybe people power does work after all :D Kinger was a laugh at times but more coz of his stupidity (eg ties) than his wit, although himself and Trev had a bit of chemistry ;) Dolan would be good alright but I cant see it happening, same with Kerr, I dont think he would have the time when the EPL starts up again.
Charlie McKeever was good anytime he was on tv but I doubt he would travel down from Donegal and he would prob only get to see Finn Harps & Derry games. Liam Buckley might be one (although he got Jason Byrne and Glen Crowe mixed up AFTER Crowe got taken off against Derry). Roddy will need the money if he's cutting back to part time so he would be a good one, as would Pat Morley or Derek Swan Id say.
The Soccer Show that used to be on RTE used to have journalists on it and I thought they were quite good and less biased, maybe that would be an idea?
Lionel Ritchie
05/07/2005, 11:18 AM
Last night he treated us to one of his inspired pearls of wisdom and insight on the EL prem. Apparently the "table doesn't lie" and the top six teams are the "best six teams in the league".
So that's us told how to read a table then. :rolleyes: :D
monutdfc
05/07/2005, 11:27 AM
Last night he treated us to one of his inspired pearls of wisdom and insight on the EL prem. Apparently the "table doesn't lie" and the top six teams are the "best six teams in the league".
So that's us told how to read a table then. :rolleyes: :D
You should be a politician or a journalist with that ability to selectively quote ;)
He said that at this stage of the season the table has settled down and early season runs of form for the weaker teams have been balanced out, and now the top six teams are the "best six teams in the league"
superfrank
05/07/2005, 11:31 AM
Bye Noel. He was a funny chap, despite his ignorance. I feel that he will be back on our telly's soon enough.....
As for reaplacements I'd say Pat Dolan is the obvious choice. His footballing knowledge is very extensive. I know many people here dont lik him but I do. I just hope he doesn't start his stand up routine again. The Robert Huth joke wasn't funny! :mad:
And sure if he doesn't want to do it, we could go for someone with the Northern accent. I wonder what Trevor Anderson is doing these days........? :D
Hecko
05/07/2005, 11:33 AM
He also said the most important lesson from City's win at Belfield was that teams would cause Cork problems when they put men behind th2 ball "simple as that".
He has a point - sort of- about CIty struggling to break teams down, but it's a funny way to look at a 5-1 win... he just can't help hiself when it comes to City
superfrank
05/07/2005, 11:36 AM
Sure there are loadsa people who would be very cynical of Cork and especially Rico, myself included.
Roo69
05/07/2005, 11:40 AM
They should have a panel of 4 people. The host, there resident eL pundit and then every week have a different eL manager and a current or ex player
patsh
05/07/2005, 11:59 AM
Sure there are loadsa people who would be very cynical of Cork and especially Rico, myself included.
:confused:
I don't get your point......
Conor H
05/07/2005, 12:23 PM
Well im sorry to see him go caus he had great time for us and is amazed that were not up there YET! ;)
I thought Kinger was hot and cold; I don't think the quality of his analysis was anything to write home about, but he's a genuine character and I think you need that, especially on a show where most (all) of the players, coaches etc can be very boring.
He was very honest,he din't try to hide DIABOLICAL mistakes (defenders falling over themselves eg.Rovers v Bray :D and other in general) made by players.
CollegeTillIDie
05/07/2005, 7:22 PM
Kinger is taking up a position with the F.A.I. as full-time National Women's team manager. He will be expected to attend women's games during the summer to check on potential international players. Those games take place on Monday nights mainly in the Dublin area. Hence he won't be available to do the TV 3 gig. Plus as a full-time employee of the F.A.I. he would not be as free to comment as might otherwise be the case. :o
Rovers1
05/07/2005, 8:50 PM
Thank ****!!! cannot stand him!!! hasnt a clue about football!!!! Doesnt know who Cobh Ramblers are!!!! doesnt even know who Pat Dolan is,hasnt a ****ing clue,**** manager, womens football,HA!! hope he fails.
:mad:
I REALLY HATE NOEL KING!!!!!!
CollegeTillIDie
05/07/2005, 9:27 PM
Thank ****!!! cannot stand him!!! hasnt a clue about football!!!! Doesnt know who Cobh Ramblers are!!!! doesnt even know who Pat Dolan is,hasnt a ****ing clue,**** manager, womens football,HA!! hope he fails.
:mad:
I REALLY HATE NOEL KING!!!!!!
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Hate to disappoint you he has already been manager in a part time capacity since 2000 and has brought Ireland into the top flight of European nations and we are now in a position should we win our qualification groups to play in European Championship Finals, World Cup Finals and Olympic Games for the first time in our history.
Troy.McClure
05/07/2005, 10:27 PM
I thought Kinger was hot
Now that's selective quoting monutdfc :cool:
He kept refering to Waterford last night, saying (more or less) "The promoted team might have a stint at the top at the start but then goes back to the bottom of the table when it settles down". He insinuated a few times that Waterford were the promoted team this year :confused: I know they play like one, but they've been up for a while now :o
sonofstan
05/07/2005, 10:34 PM
slightly off topic, but I'm sure Rico described the Cork attack as 'loquacious' last night - I'm sure Georgie Haji-boy and Liam and O'Flynn and the rest can talk several hind legs of several Barry Fergusons or Colin Hawkins, but what's that got to do with their game?
ThatGuy
05/07/2005, 10:39 PM
Noel King is the only one on the show prepared to tell it like it is, he was the only guest this year who has been comfortable on camera and he was a great character too. He will be a huge loss to the show.
cellars head
06/07/2005, 7:35 AM
Fact ThatGuy, you are knackered enough at that ungodly hour on a Monday night without the cardboard cut out pundits putting you into a coma with their platitudes. Kinger keeps you awake.
CuanaD
06/07/2005, 8:44 AM
He'll be missed allright - i would often dissagree with what he said but he was certainly comfortable on camera & the banter was fun.
Somebody mentioned Liam Coyle - I'd love to hear his opinions on the eL, would involve a lot of travel for him though. Derek Swan could be good too. Dolan is an obvious choice, like him or not, he is a quality pundit & his passion for the league is obvious to the viewers.
superfrank
06/07/2005, 12:49 PM
:confused:
I don't get your point......
Of course people will pick faults with performances by a team that are flying high. I always had the strange feeling that Noel didn't like Cork..... :rolleyes:
thank ****. the man is an imbecile. good riddance
perhaps they should (as someone else suggested earlier)to bring in journelists who report on the league. Emmet Malone for instance????
A face
06/07/2005, 7:10 PM
I dunno ... who ever is going to replace Kinger, i think Osam is doubtful !!
Sheridan
06/07/2005, 7:11 PM
I dunno ... who ever is going to replace Kinger, i think Osam is doubtful !!
4/10.
Poor Student
06/07/2005, 7:11 PM
We call Kinger an idiot but from what CTID says and what I've read women's soccer has come on leaps and bounds since he has taken over. Good to see the reason he is leaving is that his post has become full time.
Good to see the reason he is leaving is that his post has become full time.
any reason that gets the opinionated little turd* off our screens is a good one
*- see here (http://www.fourfiveone.net/lookalikes.html), 3rd one down
Poor Student
06/07/2005, 7:13 PM
Éanna in all fairness was it not a job requirement for punditry to be opinionated?
Éanna in all fairness was it not a job requirement for punditry to be opinionated?
yes, but not the turd bit :)
I think they'll probably just replace him with Paul Osam or someone equally as dull.
Dolan already works for Setanta and RTE so doubt if he would work on TV3 aswell. Anyway, I'd say Pat and Trevor wouldn'e be too gone on the idea of working with each other. Although it could make for interesting viewing!! ;)
Slash/ED
06/07/2005, 9:04 PM
Dolan already works for Setanta and RTE so doubt if he would work on TV3 aswell.
Yeah I can't see someone as morally courageous and with principles as strong as Pat Dolan doing something like that.
Yeah I can't see someone as morally courageous and with principles as strong as Pat Dolan doing something like that.
I would have expected nothing less from a bitter Shels fan like yourself. :rolleyes:
I'd say the presence of Trevor Welch might have more to do with why he wouldn't go on it than anything else. That said, I wouldn't be shocked if he turned up on it in the future at some stage.
Slash/ED
06/07/2005, 9:30 PM
I would have expected nothing less from a bitter Shels fan like yourself. :rolleyes:
I reckon you'd get far worse from bitter Cork fans about the man :)
I reckon you'd get far worse from bitter Cork fans about the man :)
Ah that's just Eanna! :D
It's because Pat Dolan tired to stop him lurking outside the City dressing room. He's happy now though because Rico turns a blind eye to it, a few of the players are a bit freaked out by it alright though!
I've just realised that hardly anyone on this forum will have a clue what I'm on about!!
Éanna
06/07/2005, 10:30 PM
Yeah I can't see someone as morally courageous and with principles as strong as Pat Dolan doing something like that.
I read that post 10 mins ago and I'm still laughing :D
OneRedArmy
11/07/2005, 10:51 PM
Bring back Kinger!
EL Weekly was so wooden tonight I'm sure it was a fire hazard.
Osam makes Scully look as OTT as Rico and Dolan combined.
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