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sbgawa
15/08/2021, 7:48 PM
You have an imperfect memory of your "successes" of the 70's, no league titles as far as I remember.
The over celebration of results v Rovers in those days was less about your "success""( 1 senior trophy out of 20 available) and more down to the thuggishness of your fan base In the 70's.
Glass houses etc
Dalymountrower
15/08/2021, 7:55 PM
Glass houses etc
In what respect?
Calcio Jack
15/08/2021, 8:11 PM
You have an imperfect memory of your "successes" of the 70's, no league titles as far as I remember.
The over celebration of results v Rovers in those days was less about your "success""( 1 senior trophy out of 20 available) and more down to the thuggishness of your fan base In the 70's.
My memory is perfect of the 1970s and I never said anything about us winning league title then because we didn’t .
The point I made is that as a kid in the early 70s I was astounded at the reaction by Bohs fans when you beat us and it had nothing to do with thuggish fans ( it really wasn't’ that rough btw) but simply down to the fact that for the previous 50 years it was rare for Bohs to beat us and you had won very little in comparison to us - once you went professional in late 60s that changed a little and Rovers were poor for much of the 70s ( eg signing on a schoolboy team and playing them with only 3 experienced players Leech/Fulham/Dunne) meant we finished bottom of league .
The point I did make still stands as today like back then your club and others still over celebrate as you say because underdogs/underachievers like to beat those more successful than them - meme ca change plus ca change - but if it fits your narrative to come up with it being to do with fan behaviour then continue believing that although I doubt you’ll get many takers for that theory
Anyway like PC I don’t care about Bohs , Dundalk or any other clubs ; I’m comfortable knowing we are the most successful club and currently the best team in the league
sbgawa
15/08/2021, 8:40 PM
In what respect?
Bohs have as many knackers who follow them as we do.
Possibly more as a % of actual support but it's not one I'd be shouting about
Bohtastic
15/08/2021, 8:54 PM
Bohs have as many knackers who follow them as we do.
Possibly more as a % of actual support but it's not one I'd be shouting about
Woah there mate...
A number of things to unpick from this. Well, first and foremost this is a thread about the games this weekend. Last time I checked we didn't play you. Not sure why you're talking about bohs hoolies.
Secondly, this thread seems to be yourself and Calcio Jack, and Placid Casual reminiscing about Rovers and their starred history. That's all very entertaining lads, but its interest (and your feelings of inherent superiority) are somewhat esoteric.
Perhaps you should write a book.
Pineapple Stu might help you.
sbgawa
15/08/2021, 9:15 PM
Woah there mate...
A number of things to unpick from this. Well, first and foremost this is a thread about the games this weekend. Last time I checked we didn't play you. Not sure why you're talking about bohs hoolies.
Secondly, this thread seems to be yourself and Calcio Jack, and Placid Casual reminiscing about Rovers and their starred history. That's all very entertaining lads, but its interest (and your feelings of inherent superiority) are somewhat esoteric.
Perhaps you should write a book.
Pineapple Stu might help you.
Woah there mate i was referring to DT comment at post 49 about our "thugish" support in the 70's when i made the point that Bohs and Rovers have an unfortunate number of knackers following both teams and always have.
I'll take your suggestion of writing a book under advisement, maybe you could learn to read a few posts back :rolleyes: :p
Bohtastic
15/08/2021, 9:32 PM
This page...
Placid Casual says bohs deserve 3rd, slags off Dundalk.
Nesta responds - joke about Bohs streak.
Nigel talks about Harps
Bit of slagging with Nesta.
PC:.. ROVERS GREAT! Dundalk really rival.
Calcio Jack: ROVERS GREAT! 1970s
Bohs & everyone else bitter.
Dalymount Rower: you won f*** all in the 70s, mentions "thuggish elements"
CJ... bohs bitter... ROVERS GREAT!
SBGAWA.... Bohs have "knackers" ( your words) maybe more % than ROVERS (who are great obviously... )
I've not missed the context Sbgawa.
I'm guessing you're all missing your old forum, and that's why you need to express your love of Rovers here.
placid casual
15/08/2021, 9:34 PM
Sorry folks that's my fault. I got to reminiscing about rivalries, and seemed to have stirred a nest....
Anyways, Rovers are in good form at the moment and are going into the European game with a degree of confidence.
Looking further forward the cup game with bohs should be a belter - would it be on TV, or is that just a fanciful notion?
sbgawa
15/08/2021, 9:37 PM
This page...
Placid Casual says bohs deserve 3rd, slags off Dundalk.
Nesta responds - joke about Bohs streak.
Nigel talks about Harps
Bit of slagging with Nesta.
PC:.. ROVERS GREAT! Dundalk really rival.
Calcio Jack: ROVERS GREAT! 1970s
Bohs & everyone else bitter.
Dalymount Rower: you won f*** all in the 70s, mentions "thuggish elements"
CJ... bohs bitter... ROVERS GREAT!
SBGAWA.... Bohs have "knackers" ( your words) maybe more % than ROVERS (who are great obviously... )
I've not missed the context Sbgawa.
I'm guessing you're all missing your old forum, and that's why you need to express your love of Rovers here.
I'm only responsible for myself... DT made a comment about our support , i made a pretty even handed response....end of story from my perspective.
Sorry if happy Rovers fans upset you but as you said yourself its a thread about todays matches and we did win to extend our lead at the top.
You should be happy yourself ...you won.
WTF is happening to Sligo ?? a few weeks ago it was the top 3 and the rest scraping for 4th , Sligo have imploded ...
Any sligo fans with an insight ?
sbgawa
15/08/2021, 9:40 PM
Sorry folks that's my fault. I got to reminiscing about rivalries, and seemed to have stirred a nest....
Anyways, Rovers are in good form at the moment and are going into the European game with a degree of confidence.
Looking further forward the cup game with bohs should be a belter - would it be on TV, or is that just a fanciful notion?
Whatever about a second round cup game being on TV , how about a European Playoff making the flippen TV !!
Or is that a fanciful notion as well?
Bohtastic
15/08/2021, 10:04 PM
Sligo had some chances, but were blunt in front of goal- Parkes couldn't stay onside at all and Kenny skied a sitter. Big difference from earlier on in the season when they were clinical. I thought every game this year against them were belters. We created a sack full of chances today. Can't see how they've lost the last 5 based on their performance today.
Nah Nah Nah Nah
15/08/2021, 10:28 PM
Certainly an improvement on the last few games but that wouldn’t be too hard . Romeo needs to take that chance in the first half and learn to stay onside.
Dalymountrower
16/08/2021, 6:57 AM
I'm only responsible for myself... DT made a comment about our support , i made a pretty even handed response....end of story from my perspective.
Dublin was a pretty violent city in the 70's and " big match" occasions led inevitably to violence( pretty terrible scenes at a Bohs / Sligo cup semi replay 76/77?for example)
The worst I experienced was the first Dublin GAA league game after the All Ireland breakthrough in 74.They essentially sacked the town of Athy.
Despite our success in the field in the 70'a ( 2 leagues and two cups).Bohs had a poor enough support, and certainly no consistently attending " element". Rovers had that in spades, also had a lot of decent fans, the lady with the dog dressed in the Rovers jersey springs to mind.
Anyway, more a topic for the League of Ireland Mens Shed that I plan to open with Calcio and Sbgawa!
Calcio Jack
16/08/2021, 8:44 AM
Dublin was a pretty violent city in the 70's and " big match" occasions led inevitably to violence( pretty terrible scenes at a Bohs / Sligo cup semi replay 76/77?for example)
The worst I experienced was the first Dublin GAA league game after the All Ireland breakthrough in 74.They essentially sacked the town of Athy.
Despite our success in the field in the 70'a ( 2 leagues and two cups).Bohs had a poor enough support, and certainly no consistently attending " element". Rovers had that in spades, also had a lot of decent fans, the lady with the dog dressed in the Rovers jersey springs to mind.
Anyway, more a topic for the League of Ireland Mens Shed that I plan to open with Calcio and Sbgawa!
Watch out that the Rovers element don’t rush your Men’s Shed and throw you out like they did with the Shed during the 70s 😄
Dalymountrower
16/08/2021, 9:27 AM
Calcio, Rovers were never not in the Shed in the 70's , they usually occupied both ends of the ground behind both goals and battered anyone who cheered when a goal was scored against them... Dublin in the rare oul times!
I do ike the idea of geriatric Bohs and Rovers fans having a crack off each other though!
Finlay Harp
16/08/2021, 9:35 AM
Waterford have become a pain in our ass now. They’ll take points from clubs that they wouldn’t have been expected to earlier in the season. It’s Harps, Waterford and AN Other for play offs. Someone else will get sucked into this unexpectedly.
Calcio Jack
16/08/2021, 10:28 AM
[QUOTE=Dalymountrower;2084516]Calcio, Rovers were never not in the Shed in the 70's , they usually occupied both ends of the ground behind both goals and battered anyone who cheered when a goal was scored against them... Dublin in the rare oul times!
I do ike the idea of geriatric Bohs and Rovers fans having a crack off each other though![
True we did occupy both ends but genuinely no one was getting battered when we conceded - I attended every Bohs/Rovers match during the 70s and never saw any trouble in the ground… outside was a different matter ….
Impressed with Harps at the weekend. A comprehensive win and they played some good football. Thought Olly was hard done by. The first yellow for him and his assistant was because the ref had missed a foul on the centre forward. don't know what the second was for but the fourth official seemed fixated by the Harps bench. Thought Longford were poor even though I would have loved to see them win. I think Harps will kick on.
pineapple stu
16/08/2021, 10:49 AM
Bit strange to see a 3-0 win where the winning keeper is singled out for praise - Longford must have had something about them in the game?
Hard to see any way back for them now of course; that's a huge gap after building up.
nigel-harps1954
16/08/2021, 10:58 AM
Bit strange to see a 3-0 win where the winning keeper is singled out for praise - Longford must have had something about them in the game?
Hard to see any way back for them now of course; that's a huge gap after building up.
He made one big save, and a handful of bread and butter saves, but had little else to be doing really. It was all Harps for about 70 minutes of the game.
The fourth official was Michael Connolly, the most local official in the league to Finn Park, and he does not hide his dislike of Ollie Horgan..
Longfordian
16/08/2021, 11:04 AM
Waterford have become a pain in our ass now. They’ll take points from clubs that they wouldn’t have been expected to earlier in the season. It’s Harps, Waterford and AN Other for play offs. Someone else will get sucked into this unexpectedly.
Whoever ends up in the play off should comfortably beat the First Division team unless they're coming into it on the back of a Shels style collapse.
pineapple stu
16/08/2021, 11:17 AM
Well - a fully professional Galway could put it up to some PD teams as they seem to have their act together a bit now.
I wouldn't be too sure at all about the PD side winning the playoff.
Longfordian
16/08/2021, 11:24 AM
Fair enough you'd be more familiar with Galway's form than I am but aside from fitness I don't see a squad to be feared really. Anyway it won't be something we'll have to concern ourselves with unfortunately.
pineapple stu
16/08/2021, 11:32 AM
They were certainly muck to start the season, and I suspect there's players signed because they'll go fully pro, not because they're any good.
But their form has improved since the break (22 points from 27), they only lost 2-0 in Tallaght in the Cup, and they beat Shels 3-1 at the weekend.
Wouldn't be as confident about UCD/Bray/Treaty winning a playoff of course.
Dalymountrower
16/08/2021, 12:09 PM
[QUOTE=Dalymountrower;2084516]Calcio, Rovers were never not in the Shed in the 70's , they usually occupied both ends of the ground behind both goals and battered anyone who cheered when a goal was scored against them... Dublin in the rare oul times!
I do ike the idea of geriatric Bohs and Rovers fans having a crack off each other though![
True we did occupy both ends but genuinely no one was getting battered when we conceded - I attended every Bohs/Rovers match during the 70s and never saw any trouble in the ground… outside was a different matter ….
Witnessed it myself on numerous occasions, at one point an infamous Hoop, who I am sure you will know of, stood beside us small group of Bohs kids high up on the Tramway end and showed us a hatchet under his jacket that he would use on us if we cheered.
My 70's experiences of those games are the source of my enduring antipathy.
Yeah. Olly was in stand and went down to say something to his assistant and next minute was surrounded by guys in stewards tops. Unnecessary I thought, from where I was he did not have a go at anyone. Agree about the ref if it had been a mean spirited game about 10 would have been sent off. The game was played in a good spirit and no need for half the cards.
I remember a game a few years ago when both in First division and Harps got stuck in and knocked lumps out of Longford especially Aodh. That was not the case at the weekend.
Agreed the keeper made one exceptional save which was probably the moment of the match. Love or loath Olly and I cannot make up my mind he has done an exceptional job with Harps and the league need characters like him. People do not see all the work he does. He spends huge amount of time in Longford watching opposition games. Leaving all the hoohah behind he puts in the work and is one of the better managers in the league. great to see Sean Boyd back up and running.
Calcio Jack
16/08/2021, 12:41 PM
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Witnessed it myself on numerous occasions, at one point an infamous Hoop, who I am sure you will know of, stood beside us small group of Bohs kids high up on the Tramway end and showed us a hatchet under his jacket that he would use on us if we cheered.
My 70's experiences of those games are the source of my enduring antipathy.
Fair enough - and yes I can guess the identity of that guy… used to hang out selling newspaper outside the GPO ? Anyway not doubting or looking to excuse that individual
thebronze14
16/08/2021, 1:04 PM
Impressed with Harps at the weekend. A comprehensive win and they played some good football. Thought Olly was hard done by. The first yellow for him and his assistant was because the ref had missed a foul on the centre forward. don't know what the second was for but the fourth official seemed fixated by the Harps bench. Thought Longford were poor even though I would have loved to see them win. I think Harps will kick on.
He really doesn't help himself but his reputation means that officals can't wait to send him off. Was it earlier in the season against Rovers at home he got sent off for no apparent reason?
sbgawa
16/08/2021, 1:27 PM
He was sent off in Ballybofey against Rovers for protesting about the Ref reversing a decision on a free from which Rovers than went ahead and scored.
I Love Ollie but i dont get all the roaring and shouting at fourth officials or Refs, when was the last time one of them changed there minds after a bollocking from a player or Manager.
joey B
16/08/2021, 1:51 PM
He was sent off in Ballybofey against Rovers for protesting about the Ref reversing a decision on a free from which Rovers than went ahead and scored.
I Love Ollie but i dont get all the roaring and shouting at fourth officials or Refs, when was the last time one of them changed there minds after a bollocking from a player or Manager.
I’d tend to agree,I love Ollie too but it’s boring at this stage and not that amusing tbh..
Longfordian
16/08/2021, 3:38 PM
Must be getting costly at this stage in terms of fines.
Dalymountrower
16/08/2021, 4:09 PM
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Fair enough - and yes I can guess the identity of that guy… used to hang out selling newspaper outside the GPO ? Anyway not doubting or looking to excuse that individual
Got it in one.
Kingswood Rover
16/08/2021, 4:19 PM
Have met the chap in question several times over the years but not for about 3 years. Mad United supporter as well, jeez some of the stories he tells also loves a certain craft beer from Holland the one with the blue and gold labelling.
Nesta99
16/08/2021, 4:49 PM
This page...
Placid Casual says bohs deserve 3rd, slags off Dundalk.
Nesta responds - joke about Bohs streak.
Nigel talks about Harps
Bit of slagging with Nesta.
PC:.. ROVERS GREAT! Dundalk really rival.
Calcio Jack: ROVERS GREAT! 1970s
Bohs & everyone else bitter.
Dalymount Rower: you won f*** all in the 70s, mentions "thuggish elements"
CJ... bohs bitter... ROVERS GREAT!
SBGAWA.... Bohs have "knackers" ( your words) maybe more % than ROVERS (who are great obviously... )
I've not missed the context Sbgawa.
I'm guessing you're all missing your old forum, and that's why you need to express your love of Rovers here.
All quite civilised tbf though!
nigel-harps1954
16/08/2021, 4:54 PM
Must be getting costly at this stage in terms of fines.
We're used to it by now..
ger121
16/08/2021, 8:58 PM
My thoughts after the weekend. Rovers could start to pull away a bit. Winning games while on a European run is tough. Sligo can be caught but will it be us or Derry…Dundalk need a Hail Mary via the Cup to reach Europe. Couldn’t care less about the rest :-p
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