Cork AUL 2021/22

[goal-achio]

Well lads this page is gone very quiet. With the turn of the year what are your thoughts on predictions to win leagues. Anyone catching the eye or is it all inevitable

[SteveSilvermint]

Well lads this page is gone very quiet. With the turn of the year what are your thoughts on predictions to win leagues. Anyone catching the eye or is it all inevitableahh il sort out the quietness big comeback on ..coachford will beat any team in cork some side surly will go senior after this year

[latte2012]

Sad to see another couple of clubs have folded. I believe Hibs and Dunbar are gone. Coachford looking outstanding, leaps above the rest. Good contest between greenwood and corkbeg for prem A. Few teams in with a shout division 1, you’d have to fancy Kilumney in division 2.

[goal-achio]

Hibs gone? Not a chance surely. And kilumney for div 2 sure are Richmond not 8 from 8. Glenthorn could catch Coachford yet.

[ExplainThis]

Really would be surprised with Hibs being gone, strong team in Division 1?

[Gunner14]

Hibs gone? Not a chance surely. And kilumney for div 2 sure are Richmond not 8 from 8. Glenthorn could catch Coachford yet.

Hibs are definitely gone, 4 players gone back to Passage seniors for a handy few medals.

[latte2012]

Hibs gone? Not a chance surely. And kilumney for div 2 sure are Richmond not 8 from 8. Glenthorn could catch Coachford yet.
Kilumney 7 from 8 so not much in it. I think kilumney one of the best teams in the AUL still. Fancy them to win div 2 in the end. Nobody catching Coachford, far too strong. One of the best junior teams in Munster the way they are playing. It true about the teams folding, don’t know what’s going on in the AUL. I know other county teams just about hanging in there .

[fruice]

I suppose one of the biggest problem the AUL faces is that the majority have little or no underage structures to bring players through each year.

This affects the county teams more as there has traditionally been less loyalty amongst city clubs and players move around more and clubs always have a chance of picking up a few new faces each year but ultimately this is doesnt strengthen the league as a whole but does strengthen the individual club but also weakens another at the same time.

Is there maybe 12 clubs with an underage set up ?
and some with only 1 underage team.

There is a huge amount of work involved in sustaining an underage set up and the majority or the clubs left in the AUL aren’t in a position to do this work.

The vast majority of the underage set ups are from county teams and the trend is once they get their houses in order they head MSL.



If this continues the AUL will continue to lose clubs and lose divisions and will be in a real battle with the business league for clubs.

[Play it out]

The Chairman said on the Echo that AUL have huge plans to make it one of the strongest junior leagues in the country again, I can't possibly envisage how this would be possible.

[goal-achio]

They have to do something but what I will say about all the hype with the business league is yes it's getting bigger and more popular but the standard hasn't improved. Good young footballers are a dime a dozen at the moment compared to 15 20 years ago and this has a major impact on the Aul. When young hungry players come through the ranks now of msl teams they keep them in the fold whereas two decades ago they had a huge pot of players to pick from and could afford to let some go. These players from 2 decades ago that came to the aul are finishing up with clubs and there is nothing coming up behind them. I haven't seen Coachford yet but I am looking forward to watching them play. I must get a look at kilumney now too they snuck under my radar.

[Play it out]

Participation is a lot different than it used to be alrite. And the bigs clubs in Cork having a junior team in the AUL really helped the standards. Clubs could look forward to games in Wilton, Douglas Hall, Corinthians, Mayfield, etc. It was a real good learning experience as well for young lads.

Nowadays you see Junior teams in big clubs and they are all quite young. Football doesn't have the same priority in lads lives which is understandable and also disappointing as I'm sure many would love to be playing.

A big squad is key these days as there's so many weekends away, shift work, birthdays celebrated and football can go to the side. If anything, the older experienced team in the Premier such as Grattan, Glenthorn, Coachford, etc benefit from lads till enjoying football well into their 30s and carrying on. Young lads these days look down on AUL if their club doesn't have an AUL team like they used.

I'd love a representative team to return but the Oscar Traynor competition is done. An MFA competition would be good. I think that would be good for the league. I think the league should approach all MSL teams about putting in an AUL side again, mite get a few in that way. Although most will be happy with what they have. Maybe a sneaky approach of some Business League teams too.

[latte2012]

The Chairman said on the Echo that AUL have huge plans to make it one of the strongest junior leagues in the country again, I can't possibly envisage how this would be possible.

Big statement but as you said it’s hard to see how it’s possible right now. He must have a few magic tricks up his sleeve

[latte2012]

They have to do something but what I will say about all the hype with the business league is yes it's getting bigger and more popular but the standard hasn't improved. Good young footballers are a dime a dozen at the moment compared to 15 20 years ago and this has a major impact on the Aul. When young hungry players come through the ranks now of msl teams they keep them in the fold whereas two decades ago they had a huge pot of players to pick from and could afford to let some go. These players from 2 decades ago that came to the aul are finishing up with clubs and there is nothing coming up behind them. I haven't seen Coachford yet but I am looking forward to watching them play. I must get a look at kilumney now too they snuck under my radar.

I think what the business league do well is create a buzz around their league, good social media and you can look at top goal-scorers, match reports from most games and so on. Nice way of keeping lads and teams engaged.

[Dr. football]

Aul need to try get the senior teams to enter 2nd junior teams back in the AUL. Look at Carrigaline have 4 teams in junior MSL. I see Pearse juniors have folded in the MSL also. Taking b teams from AUL And putting them into Msl is not doing much for MSL standards. AUL should look at the rule we’re if a team folds b team has to replace it might hang onto a few b teams then!

[Jd2793]

Aul need to try get the senior teams to enter 2nd junior teams back in the AUL. Look at Carrigaline have 4 teams in junior MSL. I see Pearse juniors have folded in the MSL also. Taking b teams from AUL And putting them into Msl is not doing much for MSL standards. AUL should look at the rule we’re if a team folds b team has to replace it might hang onto a few b teams then!

is there a reason the junior teams go MSL over AUL? not to clue up on it but see plenty of clubs with 2 or 3 jr teams. Surprising about Pearse, decent enough set up now and all.

[latte2012]

Aul need to try get the senior teams to enter 2nd junior teams back in the AUL. Look at Carrigaline have 4 teams in junior MSL. I see Pearse juniors have folded in the MSL also. Taking b teams from AUL And putting them into Msl is not doing much for MSL standards. AUL should look at the rule we’re if a team folds b team has to replace it might hang onto a few b teams then!

Standard in MSL junior is very poor. Even MSL senior division 3 is a joke. It’s really a junior league. Only good thing for teams going MSL is it’s a better organised league with better pitches.

[fruice]

They have to do something but what I will say about all the hype with the business league is yes it's getting bigger and more popular but the standard hasn't improved. Good young footballers are a dime a dozen at the moment compared to 15 20 years ago and this has a major impact on the Aul. When young hungry players come through the ranks now of msl teams they keep them in the fold whereas two decades ago they had a huge pot of players to pick from and could afford to let some go. These players from 2 decades ago that came to the aul are finishing up with clubs and there is nothing coming up behind them. I haven't seen Coachford yet but I am looking forward to watching them play. I must get a look at kilumney now too they snuck under my radar.

That’s a very interesting point about the whole players that have come from MSL clubs Underage teams in the last 20 years and stayed and become back bones of AUL clubs.


So you think that the jump is no longer happening?


Which is interesting because looking at it from the outside it would appear even allowing for the MSL underage clubs keeping their top players there should be a sizeable amount of players finishing up their underage football and then being available to play adult soccer.


If there isn’t players becoming available then there must be a huge drop off levels which is disappointing.


But for the guys that keep it up all of them won’t make it with their MSL or AUL club which they played underage soccer is this where the AUL clubs In the city with out underage teams are getting their younger players from?


On the business league they do put a lot of effort into social media to help the whole thing along and the AUL could learn a few things from them.


But they do go over the top at the time and it’s a bit ridiculous and self indulgent at times.


A middle ground for the AUL would be fantastic but once again an awful lot of time must go into running the accounts so fair play to the business league administration for putting the time in.


As for getting teams in form the business league bar getting one of the top teams ( which I can’t see why they would leave their own league) I don’t think it would do whole lot for raising the standards in the league.


I could be open to correcting but no team with maybe the exception of the UCC team own their grounds and obviously they don’t have an under age teams as they are representing a business
so does this mean more of the same clubs that will
just come and go at the drop of hat there must be rules and regulations to stop this happening or incentives to stay


It would swell numbers which i suppose can’t be a bad thing

[fruice]

Aul need to try get the senior teams to enter 2nd junior teams back in the AUL. Look at Carrigaline have 4 teams in junior MSL. I see Pearse juniors have folded in the MSL also. Taking b teams from AUL And putting them into Msl is not doing much for MSL standards. AUL should look at the rule we’re if a team folds b team has to replace it might hang onto a few b teams then!
To be fair to the AUL they have tried to do that.

I presume if you are registered for a b team in the AUL you would need a transfer to play with your own clubs first team?

[latte2012]

That’s a very interesting point about the whole players that have come from MSL clubs Underage teams in the last 20 years and stayed and become back bones of AUL clubs.


So you think that the jump is no longer happening?


Which is interesting because looking at it from the outside it would appear even allowing for the MSL underage clubs keeping their top players there should be a sizeable amount of players finishing up their underage football and then being available to play adult soccer.


If there isn’t players becoming available then there must be a huge drop off levels which is disappointing.


But for the guys that keep it up all of them won’t make it with their MSL or AUL club which they played underage soccer is this where the AUL clubs In the city with out underage teams are getting their younger players from?


On the business league they do put a lot of effort into social media to help the whole thing along and the AUL could learn a few things from them.


But they do go over the top at the time and it’s a bit ridiculous and self indulgent at times.


A middle ground for the AUL would be fantastic but once again an awful lot of time must go into running the accounts so fair play to the business league administration for putting the time in.


As for getting teams in form the business league bar getting one of the top teams ( which I can’t see why they would leave their own league) I don’t think it would do whole lot for raising the standards in the league.


I could be open to correcting but no team with maybe the exception of the UCC team own their grounds and obviously they don’t have an under age teams as they are representing a business
so does this mean more of the same clubs that will
just come and go at the drop of hat there must be rules and regulations to stop this happening or incentives to stay


It would swell numbers which i suppose can’t be a bad thing

Agreed! Business league social media is way over the up and they are 100% deluded 😂
As you said a middle ground for AUL would be great. Just some bit of a an online presence might help keep people engaged and attract players.

[Dr. football]

Referee situation needs to get sorted too, teams not having game every weekend is killing the interest of players too!

at this stage we would even take back all the bad refs ����

[goal-achio]

No in regards young players it's not happening because the standard at all levels in football in cork has dropped dramatically. A major reason for this is a majority of young ballers give up playing when they hit 18 19. I've watched most levels of football this year and when I think about teams 15 20 years ago they would walk all over these teams. For example , village in the early 00 won nothing but were incredible. Wilton leeside kinsale park blarney were all just way too strong. Coachford were another one in that bracket but how good would their current crop be against any of these old teams? Castleview, leeds,ballyvolane, mayfield kilreen,Balintottis,glenthorn,Blackstoneand kanturk had all really good teams innishvilla knockavilla would all be very very strong in today's leagues but were for most not up to the highest standard. We need to get young fellas more interested in continuing to play on but how do you do that. As soon as things go back to normal and they can go clubbing again and partying properly again at the weekends a lot of them will be tough to get out of bed on a sunday morning too.

[goal-achio]

Are these managers only in the aul then?

[Blackbetty]

CBL coverage and website is fantastic and the AUL’s online presence is almost non existent. I do agree CBL go a bit over the top and I think it’s down to the fact the guy runs has no life so needs this. Some of the teams in it are very good but the lower teams are so poor so teams like Doolans probably find it very easy

[goal-achio]

What the lads running the business league are doing is excellent lads and commendable. It’s not they don’t have lives it’s that this is their hobby and they are highly invested in it. Fair play to them Jesus ye are a tough crowd😂😂😂

[Blackbetty]

Are u the fella from the business league 😂😂😂

[CBL20]

Are u the fella from the business league 😂😂😂

No, that's me bud. Thanks for the feedback though - much appreciated! 😉

[Play it out]

We would all love the coverage of the business league.

It would add all the local derbys, history filled clubs, slagging, etc.

[goal-achio]

I am the manager of Ucc I have never made a secret of that and I don’t hid behind the name.

[TheRock]

I'm not sure how you can say "only good thing for teams going MSL is it’s a better organised league with better pitches"

This is a massive factor for anyone playing ball these days, not to mention facilities associated with these pitches.

I played AUL on and off for 6 years and shower facilities were almost non existent.

I've played MSL for 8 years now and its rare you'd play on a bad patch, and always have a dressing room and shower to get togged.

This is something that is a huge attraction to many lads who want to play now.

[LetItLong11]

Long time viewer, first time poster! Looking at the aul this year, the biggest issue is lack of referees and the organization of fixtures. From what I can see there is only 8 referees in the aul? Surely they could be pulled in from schoolboys league? On top of that then the scheduling of games is well off. In division 1 UCC have played 5 games (2 of them walkovers from Hibs) but yet I see from fixtures released today that they are not down to play again next week? That would be the 4th weekend out of the 5 weekends back after the break where they have not played. Surely they should be playing before the teams that have 10+ games played?
Only 3 games down to be played Sunday morning week? At the rate it is going it looks like a lot of teams will be out Tuesday Thursday Saturday once the light is good enough as most leagues seem to be well off finishing.
Would presume the Corinthians Cup wont take place this year due to the backlog of fixtures.

[Play it out]

Teams training without games. Teams organizing friendlies to keep tipping away. I hope it's done early May regardless.

[goal-achio]

Long time viewer, first time poster! Looking at the aul this year, the biggest issue is lack of referees and the organization of fixtures. From what I can see there is only 8 referees in the aul? Surely they could be pulled in from schoolboys league? On top of that then the scheduling of games is well off. In division 1 UCC have played 5 games (2 of them walkovers from Hibs) but yet I see from fixtures released today that they are not down to play again next week? That would be the 4th weekend out of the 5 weekends back after the break where they have not played. Surely they should be playing before the teams that have 10+ games played?
Only 3 games down to be played Sunday morning week? At the rate it is going it looks like a lot of teams will be out Tuesday Thursday Saturday once the light is good enough as most leagues seem to be well off finishing.
Would presume the Corinthians Cup wont take place this year due to the backlog of fixtures.

Very valid point leftitlong but with such a shortage of referees it is hard to get teams a fair run of games. Saturday evening games on all weather pitches and Sunday evening games must surely be looked at. No team will survive the demand of Tuesday Thursday Sunday it will just be too much. Welcome on board though

[legend23]

Just seen there lads that the cork aul had up on there website about the cork aul 75th anniversary announcing 2 complimentary tickets will go to each section of the league. SURPRISE SURPRISE Coachford won 2 tickets from the premier section cork aul keeping coachford happy to keep them in the division, i personaly think the draw shud of been done infront of a member of each club at a meeting.

[SteveSilvermint]

Just seen there lads that the cork aul had up on there website about the cork aul 75th anniversary announcing 2 complimentary tickets will go to each section of the league. SURPRISE SURPRISE Coachford won 2 tickets from the premier section cork aul keeping coachford happy to keep them in the division, i personaly think the draw shud of been done infront of a member of each club at a meeting. let’s be fair their a special club what a team and beat Rockmount last nite great credit due to them can’t begrudge them success

[goal-achio]

let’s be fair their a special club what a team and beat Rockmount last nite great credit due to them can’t begrudge them success

That's some result, it will be a miracle to stop them now in the league. It would want to be some team beat them in AOH aswell. Fair play to them

[legend23]

That's some result, it will be a miracle to stop them now in the league. It would want to be some team beat them in AOH aswell. Fair play to them

Are they waiting to do the treble before going MSl??. Has the treble ever been done??

[goal-achio]

Are they waiting to do the treble before going MSl??. Has the treble ever been done??

What treble, they didn’t win the Mossy sure

[legend23]

What treble, they didn’t win the Mossy sure

Thats why there staying in aul next season to complete it before make the step up to msl

[SteveSilvermint]

Thats why there staying in aul next season to complete it before make the step up to mslanother fantastic result by the Coachford lads today congrats to everyone involved

[goal-achio]

another fantastic result by the Coachford lads today congrats to everyone involved

Just saw the result, fair play to all involved they are flying the flag for the AUL

[SteveSilvermint]

Just saw the result, fair play to all involved they are flying the flag for the AUL
Appalling official s doing the Coachford game why do the cork ref and linesman screw the cork club over ..2sendings off 1was Murphy great player and quiet .. disgraceful decision s but knowing the ref you would expect it he’s a joke

[LetItLong11]

I know the AUL are running way behind but a full set of fixtures for Paddys weekend is very unfair on the players, especially the importance of some of the games. 3 semi finals down for the sunday morning, no doubt teams will be missing players for the weekend that's in it. Not surprising all the same with what your dealing with

How do lads think the leagues will finish with the way things stand now? I will go with the following:

Prem: 1st Coachford 2nd Grattan Utd A- Coachford are a class above, second wide open but think Grattan will come through from the bunch
Prem A: 1st Corkbeg 2nd Springfield- Corkbeg seem to be flying it, Springers to hold on to second then
Div 1: 1st UCC 2nd Blarney St- UCCs to lose really, too many games in hands not to drop points, Blarney st to get enough points from the games in hand too to pick up second
Div 2: 1st Richmond 2nd Killumney- Richmond just to hold off Killumney- Wont be much in it though, both good teams
Div 3: 1st Shandon Celtic 2nd Churchvilla- Shandon coming good the right time , temple or los zarcos could challenge too




Prem A:

[fruice]

To be fair they haven’t much other option they have limited options available to them.
They are short on refs I’m half surprised they didn’t do a double weekend and have a set of fixtures Thursday and Friday for some and then a different set of fixtures for the weekend for the rest.

I remember a time when they were behind and played games on Stephens day.

A lot will depend on how teams can manage the big back log of games when the nights get longer

[Jd2793]

theres too many cups in AUL , no wonder they've a serious amount of catching up to do. its the same every year. maybe one day they'll wake up to the madness.

[goal-achio]

I know the AUL are running way behind but a full set of fixtures for Paddys weekend is very unfair on the players, especially the importance of some of the games. 3 semi finals down for the sunday morning, no doubt teams will be missing players for the weekend that's in it. Not surprising all the same with what your dealing with

How do lads think the leagues will finish with the way things stand now? I will go with the following:

Prem: 1st Coachford 2nd Grattan Utd A- Coachford are a class above, second wide open but think Grattan will come through from the bunch
Prem A: 1st Corkbeg 2nd Springfield- Corkbeg seem to be flying it, Springers to hold on to second then
Div 1: 1st UCC 2nd Blarney St- UCCs to lose really, too many games in hands not to drop points, Blarney st to get enough points from the games in hand too to pick up second
Div 2: 1st Richmond 2nd Killumney- Richmond just to hold off Killumney- Wont be much in it though, both good teams
Div 3: 1st Shandon Celtic 2nd Churchvilla- Shandon coming good the right time , temple or los zarcos could challenge too




Prem A:
You must not of getting enough points for Ucc to say you always have an issue with us and our games played. I agree with all your predictions but everyone knows points on the board are better then games in hand. In 4 or 5 weeks time college is finished and players are gone home. Games in hand are no good then bud. Banteer will get promoted with either cathedral or blarney street. We played Cathedral last night we were haunted to beat them. They were by far the better side

[JaketheSnake]

I think many teams will be missing players as players just dont give a toss anymore about amateur football and rightly so . A few pints way better than togging out and playing on a crap pitch

[JaketheSnake]

UCC nearly always fall away because of this very thing. The AUL so desperate for teams they leave them enter year after year.

[goal-achio]

UCC nearly always fall away because of this very thing. The AUL so desperate for teams they leave them enter year after year.

And why shouldn’t they be left enter, that’s a bit harsh. Ucc are there consistently unlike other clubs who have come and gone when things weren’t going there way , should them clubs not be left back in aswell.

[Play it out]

Surprised to see Parkview beat UCC. Great win for them.

Grangevale beat Cathedral in other semi.

Coachford battered Temple, they're so far ahead of rest.

Killumney got the job done in Saxone final.

Few games off too.

[SteveSilvermint]

Surprised to see Parkview beat UCC.

Grangevale beat Cathedral in other semi.

Coachford battered Temple, they're so far ahead of rest.

Killumney got the job done in Saxone final.

Few games off too. fabulous win on pens today for coachford flying the flag with pride for cork football.. class club aul must be in dread if they lose them