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Dee75
30/06/2005, 1:11 PM
Its just been announced on 98fm in Dublin that the every Shamrock Rovers player has been put up for sale. I didn't hear the full report but at the end he repeated that every player is for sale :(

Buller
30/06/2005, 1:12 PM
Yeah i just heard it myself... although im not too bothered as long as rovers survive...

EnDai
30/06/2005, 1:12 PM
They'll more than likely accept any offers too, even low ones I bet.

Krstic
30/06/2005, 1:23 PM
Only problem is, the good players they had are out of contract, so who will want the rest?????

Dee75
30/06/2005, 1:26 PM
How can Rovers survive if they lose all of their best players and get relegated to Div 1. They will be in serious trouble if they drop out of the Prem Div. I hope it doesn't happen

pineapple stu
30/06/2005, 1:49 PM
They'll have to go amateur for a few years and completely restructure. Thing is, if you don't get out of the First Division first time, it can get harder and harder... (just ask Dundalk!)

Bald Student
30/06/2005, 2:03 PM
They will be in serious trouble if they drop out of the Prem Div.I disagree. A year of first division wages could be just what they need during their restructuring. At the moment anything is acceptable so long as they stay in business.

drummerboy
30/06/2005, 2:05 PM
Can't see them staying in Dalymount either

Roo69
30/06/2005, 2:07 PM
I disagree. A year of first division wages could be just what they need during their restructuring. At the moment anything is acceptable so long as they stay in business.

Agreed, personally if it meant Rovers staying in business and for the good of the League i would let them use the Carlisle if they REALLY needed to........

Schumi
30/06/2005, 2:08 PM
Can't see them staying in Dalymount either I don't think they want to anyway. It depends on the contract they signed with Bohs I suppose.

Macy
30/06/2005, 2:14 PM
I'm not sure. I mean argueably it's what they should've done years ago. If they hadn't been playing silly money to players for years Tallaght would already be built. If it takes a few years to get the club straight and properly structured then so be it.

garykelly
30/06/2005, 2:20 PM
They'll have to go amateur for a few years and completely restructure. Thing is, if you don't get out of the First Division first time, it can get harder and harder... (just ask Dundalk!)

ask dundalk !! ask us sligo rovers fans ! missed out on last day of season to bounce straight back on 1st attempt . at least dundalk won the league that year....and this is now our 6th season in this muck division. it's like quick sand down here :D

pineapple stu
30/06/2005, 2:24 PM
Was going to mention youz, but yez are doing so well this year and I didn't want to jinx it!




Doh! Too late! :D

garykelly
30/06/2005, 2:30 PM
Was going to mention youz, but yez are doing so well this year and I didn't want to jinx it!

Doh! Too late! :D

if we are jinxed now, we'll send a mob after you :D :D

anyway if shamrock rovers came down to this division they would be ok, they'd be well able to get the ball rolling again and get properly set up. i'd say 2 years here and they'd be sorted. having relegation pressure on ur heads makes people make stupid decisions..usually costly ones. so its no shame to come down, and relaunch a better and strong club.

Schumi
30/06/2005, 2:33 PM
if we are jinxed now, we'll send a mob after you :D :D
So will I. I'm looking forward to another trip to Sligo last year (before anyone says it, not after getting relegated!). I could do without more trips to Richmond Park!

Dee75
30/06/2005, 2:39 PM
I'd give it another few weeks before this happens

Felix Healy is sacked as manager of Finn Harps

Roddy Collins is unveiled as new Finn Harps manager

Whats the chances?????

Mr_T
30/06/2005, 3:02 PM
I'd give it another few weeks before this happens

Felix Healy is sacked as manager of Finn Harps

Roddy Collins is unveiled as new Finn Harps manager

Whats the chances?????

possibly the funniest/stupidest thing I've ever read on this forum. :rolleyes:

harpskid
30/06/2005, 3:06 PM
I'd give it another few weeks before this happens

Felix Healy is sacked as manager of Finn Harps

Roddy Collins is unveiled as new Finn Harps manager

Whats the chances?????

Are you serious :rolleyes:

Catch yourself on! Roddy Collins won't ever be manager of Finn Harps!

EnDai
30/06/2005, 3:10 PM
No, but Dolan may be attracted to the Harp Army... with the best fans in the country and all that!

harpskid
30/06/2005, 3:14 PM
No, but Dolan may be attracted to the Harp Army... with the best fans in the country and all that!

Not a chance. We simply couldn't pay him.

Anyway, Felix Healy is manager of Finn Harps, and in my book will be there for a long time. At the time he was appointed it was said he'd be a long term appointment: he won us the title last year to take us up and I can't see us not staying up. He's doing a grand job.

Rovers are fcuked! :eek:

Peadar
30/06/2005, 3:15 PM
Roddy Collins is unveiled as new Finn Harps manager

Whats the chances?????

I'd nearly say the odds are as short as 9/7 :eek:
Watch this space. :D

harpskid
30/06/2005, 3:29 PM
I'd nearly say the odds are as short as 9/7 :eek:
Watch this space. :D

Aye, you would know :rolleyes:

Dee75
30/06/2005, 3:31 PM
Are you serious :rolleyes:

Catch yourself on! Roddy Collins won't ever be manager of Finn Harps!

I'm not serious, I'm just thinking back to last season when Roddy decided to leave Dublin City as they had no chance of staying up to join Rovers who were one place above them!!!!!

Lightening to strike twice??

dynamo kerry
30/06/2005, 4:17 PM
roddy for harps campaign starts here

harpskid
30/06/2005, 4:22 PM
roddy for harps campaign starts here

:mad:

TonyD
30/06/2005, 8:54 PM
I could do without more trips to Richmond Park!

Trips to Belfield don't exactly have me jumping for joy either. Hole.

ThatGuy
30/06/2005, 10:02 PM
I think that the large core of Rovers fans who have stuck by them over the last couple of years will still turn up if they drop down a division to be honest. Don't think relegation will be the biggest disaster for them, could be a blessing in disguise really.

Éanna
30/06/2005, 10:13 PM
agree with thatguy, relegation could be to rovers advantage long term

CollegeTillIDie
30/06/2005, 11:14 PM
If Rovers survive past July 15 ( end of Examinership period) there is a possiblity of a return to the Santry Siro. My sources tell me that the 400 Club have already met with Fingal County Council on this issue.

Ringo
01/07/2005, 7:09 AM
SOCCER DIGEST : Rovers' squad on the market

Friday July 1st 2005


SHAMROCK ROVERS will this morning put their entire squad on the transfer list in a desperate attempt to ensure the club's continued existence. Manager Roddy Collins has been told that he must slash his weekly budget of €23,000 by almost half.

The decision was made by court-appointed examiner Neil Hughes in consultation with the club's steering committee.

"The decision was made because saving Shamrock Rovers Football Club is much more important than saving Shamrock Rovers football team," said Collins. "But, it's frustrating because I had to work so hard to convince players like Pat McCourt and Jason Gavin to sign for Rovers.

"It is a change from a few weeks ago when I was going to buy (Northern Ireland international) Gary Hamilton. Now, I have to get some kids in."

Collins added: "We're going to have to cut our budget in half and that means we'll be operating off a smaller budget than the top three clubs in the first division.

"We're looking at relegation. At this moment in time, I cannot see any other future for us. But we'll never give up and we'll give it a go."

Who will be sold remains to be seen, though it is known that Derry City and Motherwell are interested in McCourt, while Gavin has attracted interest from Hartlepool and on-loan defender Brian McGovern could be on his way to Newry Town.

Rovers are also likely to receive offers for a number of other players but they know that securing decent transfer fees will be difficult, particularly as rival clubs know how desperate Rovers will be to get players off the wage bill.

Collins has asked chief scout Stephen Fennell to mark his card about potential signings from intermediate and schoolboys football. "Stephen is going to be the most important person on our staff now because we're going to have to get in a lot of kids," said the manager.

While Collins goes about rebuilding his side, Hughes will continue his efforts to find a new investor before the July 19 deadline.

The 400 Club, which is currently bankrolling the club, is the only candidate to publicly state its interest and their representatives are currently in talks with Ray Wilson, son of club president Jack, about teaming up to take over the club.

The transfer window opens today and a number of clubs have already agreed deals.

Longford Town have taken Alan Cawley on loan from Shelbourne, who have also allowed David Tyrell join Bray Wanderers on loan. Kevin Doherty may join Tyrell in Bray, having ended his loan spell at Waterford United, as Shels look to add David Worrell of Plymouth and former Waterford manager Alan Reynolds to their squad.

Waterford captain John Frost is currently in talks with St Pat's, while George O'Callaghan is likely to sign an extended contract with Cork despite Drogheda's bid.

Owen Cowzer



© Irish Independent
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Macy
01/07/2005, 7:36 AM
Manager Roddy Collins has been told that he must slash his weekly budget of €23,000 by almost half.

Collins added: "We're going to have to cut our budget in half and that means we'll be operating off a smaller budget than the top three clubs in the first division.

"We're looking at relegation. At this moment in time, I cannot see any other future for us. But we'll never give up and we'll give it a go."

A few things....
1) What fookin shít value he got for the €23,000 a week - it's not like he was doing much better with that budget...
2) What knob ends the previous board were for allowing a budget like that in the first place

garykelly
01/07/2005, 8:54 AM
23k ????? :eek: :eek: unbelievable. are wage bills in the Prem at clubs like Cork,Bohs,Shels near that ???

drummerboy
01/07/2005, 9:54 AM
Collins should be sacked for having one of the most expensive wage-bills in the league and still bottom of the table.

green-blood
01/07/2005, 10:05 AM
Macy

2) easy, they didnt, they budgetted for about 15K and just ignored their responsibility to pay tax... W@NKERS

Roverstillidie
01/07/2005, 11:58 AM
Collins should be sacked for having one of the most expensive wage-bills in the league and still bottom of the table.

cant sack staff during examinership....

shels wage bill net €35k a week.

thomas
01/07/2005, 12:12 PM
cant sack staff during examinership....

shels wage bill net €35k a week.

The examiner can terminate ANY contracts.

Roverstillidie
01/07/2005, 12:27 PM
The examiner can terminate ANY contracts.

not because the manager isnt performing on the pitch

NY Hoop
01/07/2005, 12:29 PM
If Rovers survive past July 15 ( end of Examinership period) there is a possiblity of a return to the Santry Siro. My sources tell me that the 400 Club have already met with Fingal County Council on this issue.

True. The High Court judge made it clear we had to have an interim ground where we werent paying rent to our rivals. So its santry next season. It'll be better this time with the change of season and they have a new pitch.

Should be never forgotten that the sole reason we are in this mess is because of the previous regime. Incredibly they decided to go full time even though the debts were approaching 2m :mad:

McCourt is in contract til end of year so hopefully we can pick up a few bob for him.

Rovers v Derry live on setanta this day 2 weeks.


KOH

Dazzy
01/07/2005, 12:51 PM
True. The High Court judge made it clear we had to have an interim ground where we werent paying rent to our rivals. So its santry next season. It'll be better this time with the change of season and they have a new pitch.

Should be never forgotten that the sole reason we are in this mess is because of the previous regime. Incredibly they decided to go full time even though the debts were approaching 2m :mad:

McCourt is in contract til end of year so hopefully we can pick up a few bob for him.

Rovers v Derry live on setanta this day 2 weeks.


KOH

Just have to say good luck to Rovers and hopefully well have McCourt ;) And well IMO we should glady pay a small amount for his services :p Again what is up with TV not leaving Dublin :rolleyes: But we should be happy this is the most times we been shown on TV in a long time.

higgins
01/07/2005, 12:54 PM
shels wage bill net €35k a week.

where have you heard that?

Slash/ED
01/07/2005, 1:07 PM
On the internet, where else? Of course it's 100% true like everything else you find on other club forums.

ThatGuy
01/07/2005, 1:56 PM
Shels players all play for free because th eclub is so big and the fans are so plentiful and great.

pineapple stu
01/07/2005, 2:07 PM
Shels' wage bill net €35k a week.
I'm not going to speculate as to whether that's true or not, but what's your point in mentioning it? Shels get bigger gates than Rovers, don't have to pay rent to anyone, were in the Setanta Cup and have at least one round in Europe. They have the money - or at least are far far better equipped to pay it - whereas Rovers quite clearly don't.

rebs23
01/07/2005, 2:09 PM
Shels players all play for free because th eclub is so big and the fans are so plentiful and great.

And Ollie Byrne is such a nice guy to have as boss. :)

Roverstillidie
01/07/2005, 2:48 PM
I'm not going to speculate as to whether that's true or not, but what's your point in mentioning it? Shels get bigger gates than Rovers, don't have to pay rent to anyone, were in the Setanta Cup and have at least one round in Europe. They have the money - or at least are far far better equipped to pay it - whereas Rovers quite clearly don't.

because someone asked


23k ????? unbelievable. are wage bills in the Prem at clubs like Cork,Bohs,Shels near that ???.

read the thread before you lay in :rolleyes:

pineapple stu
01/07/2005, 2:54 PM
Fair enough so.

higgins
02/07/2005, 1:42 AM
Roddy says that 3 clubs in the first division spend more then that on players???

Is he serious?

I'd bet you half the teams in the Premier dont pay them wages.

I was always thinking rovers where doing well to keep it together and fair enough Roddy got in a few decent players on a tight budget but when you see what he had to spend and where Rovers are you can see the guy should not be allowed to manage ..

He is a liar

Dr.Nightdub
02/07/2005, 10:28 AM
€23,500 a week is NOT a tight budget

pineapple stu
02/07/2005, 9:25 PM
Roddy says that 3 clubs in the first division spend more then that on players???
I think he means that once they reduce their wage bill by half, then they'll be below three clubs.

He's still a complete spoofer - liar if you want - and I would pretty much ignore anything he says really.

Sonic
02/07/2005, 10:05 PM
From what I saw tonight noone will want them they are terrible